[Basic] Disney Heroes vs. Villains Mafia C9++ Town Wins

[Hallia]

ZANDER ITS CCSoHW timeeeeee

[Lenlo]

Hi. Sorry for being absent. I learned that unclogging a bathtub at 2am is a really poor idea and I should just let it wait till morning. Sadly, once I started I couldnt stop.

 

On page 13 for the reread/catchup.

[Lenlo]

How in gods name am I not the lowest poster? My goodness.

[Hallia]

Look forward to it :)  Game gets going on like page 22 for srs

[Believer]

@ shad  ty

 

basically that reads like a whole lot of nothing mostly.

 

He could have answered my question like this 

 

"i think shes been trying to pocket people  there were some post i thought sounded fake." i think there might have been one other decent thing there maybe.

 

 

real easy.

 

 

instead??  he gets up in my grill for daring to ask him to post his thoughts

Yes, making you play the game and not piggyback on me is a legitimate thing to do.

 

If I simply state my thoughts and you respond; "Ok, I get it", what have we learned?

[Katiora]

And so it begins....

[Lenlo]

Look forward to it :)  Game gets going on like page 22 for srs

Thansk for the heads up. On page 13 and all ive really seen is jokes, Belieber hunting for reactions and you/Nyn flirting.

[Zander?]

And this is pretty much where any and all interaction between us end for this game. If I need anything, I'll be sure to talk to Zander. k? good!

 

 

One wolf down, two to go?

 

[Nynaeve]

 

Look forward to it :)  Game gets going on like page 22 for srs

Thansk for the heads up. On page 13 and all ive really seen is jokes, Belieber hunting for reactions and you/Nyn flirting.

 

 

ftr, the flirting never really stops. Our love is young.

[Lenlo]

Does it burn with the passion of a thousand suns?

[Zander?]

[unvote]

 

[v]Belieber[/v]

 

I'm much more interested in pursuing this line of thought as it is.

 

The others will be sorted accordingly as the game unfolds.

 

Did he even vote you?

 

What happened to your theory?

[dicetosser1]

 

 

 

Clarify for me because I'm still not sure I can distinguish between honest opinions and reaction-seeking out of you.  Who are your top wolves and villagers?

From the Celeste case onwards, everything is serious.

 

Top scum:

 

Sili

dicetosser1

 

Top town:

 

Andrej

 

 

so AJ is top town again now? Why? When did that happen?

 

That never changed.

 

 

correct me if im wrong but werent you voting him AFTER calling him ure top town?

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

 

zander i can't even tell what you think my reasons for voting cass are, but it's self-contained in one post i make at the beginning, and it's real easy to follow. cass' reads were too strong for what she had to go on and i didn't like it.

 

and she hasn't changed my mind yet.

 

You said it was fluff at first, then she backtracked iirc?

no and no.

 

whether or not she technically backtracked has nothing to do with why i voted her since she backtracked after i voted her.

 

and i do not think you can cal much of cass' content fluff unless you mean she has fluff reasons for some reads and for voting me.

 

and as to her questioning me: i think the wildfire one is understandable.

 

as to her vote of me: it's clearly omgus, and afaict she's actually accusing me of poor progression: i'm not working enough with her and other people to advance my understanding of the thread.

Can you show the quote you think is poor progression?

 

maybe you misread or something.

[dicetosser1]

 

@ shad  ty

 

basically that reads like a whole lot of nothing mostly.

 

He could have answered my question like this 

 

"i think shes been trying to pocket people  there were some post i thought sounded fake." i think there might have been one other decent thing there maybe.

 

 

real easy.

 

 

instead??  he gets up in my grill for daring to ask him to post his thoughts

Yes, making you play the game and not piggyback on me is a legitimate thing to do.

 

If I simply state my thoughts and you respond; "Ok, I get it", what have we learned?

 

 

your thinking. a better idea of where your coming from which was the point

 

you wanna lynch people? then expect to hasve to explain why they should be lynched and dont be surprised if you have to do it more then once.

[Zander?]

I'm already kind of laughing to myself about it.

 

We may never get along Nyn, but we can probably still win a Mafia game together.

 

THIS!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

<3 <3 <3

 

nvm i don't want to know what it's about.

 

lol. so much drama. reminds me of darthe and that other person.

 

Best post ever.

[Zander?]

 

I'm already kind of laughing to myself about it.

 

We may never get along Nyn, but we can probably still win a Mafia game together.

 

We better. Gotta keep them stats up. 

 

 

<3 <3 <3

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

Sili, pls explain your "wolf trying to read correctly" comment wrt me giving AJ's post Towny points there.

 

Where do you stand on AJ right now?

 

FYI I'm not reading him either way, nor was that post hard-pushing anyone anywhere. It was me voicing the vibes I picked up on skim at work (ie. Gerrrofff me if you're not a Wolf. I'll re-look at everything when I get home).

 

What makes Wi-Fi a weak player?

Do you have alignment meta on her?

Why is questioning her reacting badly to pressure a bad thing?

Have you gone back and looked/got thoughts on her AJ stance?

 

answered about aj a while ago. you should have read that i think.

 

wifi's new

 

it's bad because it's easy lol

 

i'm not trying to read wifi at the moment.

 

 

Yey! Answers!

Why aren't you trying to read WiFi?

It's sus that you vote me for comments about her play if you haven't analysed her play yourself. Being new doesn't mean you shouldn't be pressured by players who find your actions odd. 

 

WRT answers about AJ? Went back to ISO in case I missed something and these were all I could find. 

 

 

and giving aj towny points for being logical which he might do as either allignment but probably as a wolf more in my personal opinion (but anyway) when 4 people are voting him? could easily be a wolf trying to read correctly or a wolf protecting a pal, though i'd lean toward the former for now.

 

i want to clarify what i said about aj.

 

aj seems a little more aggressive than he was as a wolf here. some of his posts have some bite.

 

but it's just a little. and i'm still making up my mind.

 

 

 

I did comment/ask questions about this and you never answered me.

 

Basically, main sticking points to the first point:

- I see no logical Wolf motive and can't follow why I should be Wolfy for giving his post towny points, especially if you're leaning towards having him as Town. IMO 'Trying to read correctly' doesn't seem a Wolfy thing.

- It could be equally plausible that a wolf protects their pal when there's 4 people voting him by shifting votes onto someone else and maintains distance from them by giving a hedgey read (ie you could be sus);

- Contradiction between what you state is your opinion of AJ's play (more wolfy when being logical), and how you ultimately lean him in your post.

 

The last process was explained logically with your clarification post so is discarded tinfoil. I think essentially we had a similar thought process wrt AJ (leaning certain posts towards more-likely Town, being ultimately undecided on his role). Which means you could equally be hedging or Town us are legit unsure of AJ and each other and dancing in circles. 

 

Your push of me/responses leaning heavily on my earliest game impressions, commenting on nothing else and not seeming interested in actually trying to figure me out are probably the things which tilt me out the most.

 

 

some wolves like to be right. they feel it gives them credit. but my main take away was that those reads don't seem legit coming from you. in my opinion at any rate.

cass you give aj a town read. and the only justification you present is that you could follow his logic.

and to clarify, i didn't see aj being 'logical' i'm just taking your word for it. my read of aj is separate from yours, and so there's no contradiction here. i'm just not curious enough about wifi or aj to investigate further.

 

 

it's sus that you vote me for comments about her play if you haven't analysed her play yourself.

 

 if i investigate wifi maybe i find something suspicious about wifi, but regardless of my findings the reason you gave for your read was weak, certainly in the context of wifi's meta.

 

 

Being new doesn't mean you shouldn't be pressured by players who find your actions odd.

 

well at the time i thought you had meta on wifi because i thought you were an active player on whatever site wifi learned from.

 

i'm reluctant to call this track irrelevant now, but it probably is wrt your alignment.

 

 

 

Sili, that was my second post. I said I kinda liked AJ. I saw thought, deliberation and logic in the post and gave it (the post) Towny points. It does not a be all and end all on AJ make. IIRC I even mentioned that I didn't necessarily agree with his view. Objectively though, players who are working to figure others out are more likely to be Town (Thank you Correh and players of WoW). If AJ continues posts like that, I'll continue giving those posts Towny points. 

 

Ok for the contradiction, that was under probable-tinfoil-due-to-crazy-lady-versus-Sili anyway. 

 

IMO there's a decent enough chance that our personalities are spinning each other in circles here that I'm going to rely on other's experience to help me out with you for now. But as before, if you continue to base a wolf read of me on that post without further consideration of my actions since then, your reluctance to look further gets negative points on my sheet.

 

You don't have to investigate WiFi or AJ further. Pick anyone other than me and give opinions/thoughts on their posts. Pick any post of mine on anybody but the people mentioned in that first game-post and think about/give points on that.

 

Find something else besides that one post that interests you in the game and talk about it.

 

 

Are you not bothered by the fact he said you had strong reads from that post?

[Nynaeve]

[v]Tiink[/v]

 

Of the three that wagoned me for BS policy lynch reasons, Tiink had the least reason to considering the context.

 

He gets grilled first.

 

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Belieber[/v]

 

I'm much more interested in pursuing this line of thought as it is.

 

The others will be sorted accordingly as the game unfolds.

 

 

I'm pretty sure you didn't interact with Tiink even once between these two posts (unless I missed it in the ISO). Not much of a "grilling". You also imply that he wouldn't be the only one you'd be grilling via your theory, by labeling him the first. So you can appreciate how the lack of follow up is.... questionable.

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Belieber[/v]

 

I'm much more interested in pursuing this line of thought as it is.

 

The others will be sorted accordingly as the game unfolds.

 

[Zander?]

 

 

You gotta have faith.

 

Actually I dont. I have no reason to trust you. You dont seem to have any real reasons. All you have is "you gotta have faith"

 

put in one post plz WHY celeste should be lynched

 

I did post one of the longest posts this entire game solely dedicated to that purpose.

 

The fact that you seem to disregard/ignore that is scummy to me.

 

FoS dicetosser1.

 

 

How much Mafia experience do you have?

[Nynaeve]

bottom quote shouldn't be there, but oh well 

[Nynaeve]

Does it burn with the passion of a thousand suns?

 

Sure, why not

[Zander?]

 

 

 

Okay, joking aside. Time to play.

 

Dark colored hair best hair!

Joking intro post, also objectively wrong. Slight scum read.

 

 

 

Cause I promised Celeste I would lynch her first.

 

Look whos here! [v]Celeste[/v]

R00d! Celeste knows best! Take it little Lenlo, I'm totally harmless!

 

"I'm totally harmless" can be read as a joke, but is unnecessary to write, are you trying to convince me or yourself?

 

 

I'd like to inform everyone that I haven't played a C++ game ever, nor a game with majority lynch.

 

 

For transparancy's sake.

How many games have you played? Same to Tinker.

 

Trying to find info on a new player, null post.

 

Nyn is always spicy

Joke post, null.

 

@believer On DM only?

I'm hurt that you don't remember me instantly, will remember this.

 

 

I've never played a game on this forum before.

Then which forums? Your name looks familiar..

 

Again, you hurt the fee-fees.

 

 

Do explain.

because I didn't get to vote Sili in a mash and now I can vote him. :p

 

If you truly are Alette on MU, I can see you doing this as either alignment. Null post.

 

 

I currently play exclusively on MU (http://www.mafiauniverse.com) but I originally started playing on The Org (http://forums.totalwar.org). I use the same nick on both of those sites as here.

WERE YOU IN STAR FOX THEN?! HI, THIS IS ALETTE!

 

Enthusiasm noticed and appreciated, will remember.

 

Also <3 to Cass!

Null post, everybody loves everybody on this site it appears.

 

I'm turning this into a cass appreciation thread too.

Not sure if intentional derailing of discussion or genuine happiness.

My nihilism tells me it's derailing, we're going with that.

 

 

I should start a fan club.

I'm pretty sure the only games I have played with you are when your mafia. The nonchalant attitude is noticed...

 

Easy town points to make a post like this as scum. Not ruling out town alignment, but the extra 2 dots at the end makes it likelier to be scum.

 

Shad > Rand Town usually

Everyone is >rand town at the start of the game. This post suggests pocketing to me, scum points added.

 

 

 

Shad > Rand Town usually

 

wtf is this???

 

He is one of those good town reads based on intro.

 

From what I've read on Shad and the limited exposure I've had to him on MU (ATPG's Star Fox game) I couldn't disagree more.

 

@Andrej No, i'm not telling you it's a scum tell but it is something to watch more of.

Weak and fence-sitting. Everyone is worth watching more of at the moment. Posting just for the sake of posting.

 

 

Whats your read on me?

I don't know Zander, i usually wait for a flip to read you

 

Pocketing noted.

 

 

You know me and SHad are a Hydra right?

Yes, I acknowledged this before the rand so personally I will look at Shad mostly to read your slot.

 

Pocketing/derp clear attempt noticed, now backing off. Scum points added accordingly.

 

Not sure what a scum reaction would be. Do you give Sili so little credit as to out him/herself with their first post?

Reads fake.

 

Trying to derail the thread again.

 

 

 

Conclusion, Celeste is scum.

 

[unvote]

[v]Celeste[/v]

 

 

 

Maybe Im not remembering this correctly but were you sussing/wanting people to vote Penny PRIOR to this point?

 

I wasn't.

 

That was my first post after waking up on the second day (real time) of the game. I went back and did the work and came up with that.

 

 

So you didnt mention nothing about her at all then prior to the ISO?

 

What made you choose Penny?

 

How much experience do you have with her?

[Zander?]

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Belieber[/v]

 

I'm much more interested in pursuing this line of thought as it is.

 

The others will be sorted accordingly as the game unfolds.

Now see, this is disappointing. You were top town just before this post and this comes out of the blue.

 

Were you bored when you posted that?

 

 

Wait....so iyo Townies cant/wont vote you?

[Zander?]

@zander

 

reads so far

 

Shad just managed to make me think nyn is town.

 

Paranoid on Cass

 

waiting for Believer to answme. His answer will decide if i vote him or not

 

kinda squinting at wifi    i usually give her a lot of rope but her reason for voting AJ has me a bit put off

 

ok any read on Shander?

[Zander?]

 

It has also been proven to be true.  Its not common but it has happened. It is something that I will do at times as im sure you have seen so I cant really whinge at wifi doing it.

 

I can understand recency bias/previous history influencing a player's vote and tendency to read certain people scum, from both sides  , but seriously encouraging other people to vote based on that bias?

 

 

 

 

@believer: IF you want to lynch someone today: lynch Andrej.  He has randed scum in most of the games I have played and talked his way out of 99% of the them.

 

 

 

are you serious?

 

 

Well look at it from my PoV: He has rand:scum in every game I have been in; and even though I KNOW its SUPPOSED to be DIFFERENT each GAME; its kind of HARD to trust him.

 

@dice: I mean I had you and aj pegged for scum/mafia in reys game early on, but everyone said no...but I was right...and I let myself be talked out of it...not anymore...

 

 

What did you eventually make of this? I don't buy it so far. There's little reflection beyond paranoia and a lot of dependence on tone. Sound similar? Have you seen WiFi Scum?

 

 

 

[v]aj[/v]

 

=D

 

I honestly cant explain it but this kinda pinged me for some reason.

 

WHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

 

A shiny new era is tiptoeing near!!!

 

TOWN AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! COME @ ME, PERFECT PRETTIES!!

 

Cass!!!!!!!

 

GOATENFPMUSICTWIN!!!!!!

 

<3

 

 

ZAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNDDDDDDDERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!! *Tackles*

 

I'm going to go ahead and blame you for the 8 pages I'm behind -_-. 

 

 

wutido????