[Advanced]Lost mafia - Game over - Sili, SK wins!

[Lenlo]

See I dont like that Besie post. Like.. you basically said "Screw my opinion, im going to vote the way everyone else wants to vote. No accountability!"

 

Whats the Kiv push? Whats it from, why is it building so fast?

[Lenlo]

Bess, It is possible all the mafia did include him. Especially if he should flip town. It is becoming a blind cfd without a really strong case.

 

It makes me nervous.

 

Z, mafia could do this just to mess with town as well as to get a "clean" mislynch. You might be surprised how often mafia will do things you don't expect.

Thank you. This is what im saying. I dont understand how Kiv became the number one lynch prospect and I dont like Bessies post.

[Zander?]

Bess, It is possible all the mafia did include him. Especially if he should flip town. It is becoming a blind cfd without a really strong case.

 

It makes me nervous.

 

Z, mafia could do this just to mess with town as well as to get a "clean" mislynch. You might be surprised how often mafia will do things you don't expect.

 

What makes you nervous?

[Guest]

I don't understand why it doesn't make sense to you, Lenlo.

 

I believe it's more accountable now. Now, the opinion of more players is taken into account. More players agree on one person.

[Shad_]

Actually, 1 more post, since I realized I've been chew-toying Sili a bit with the jokes and don't want them taken wrong leading to a melt down:

 

@Sili, you try to get me lynched every game we play, no matter what our alignments are.  So I'm joking about how I want you gone.  Don't take those posts seriously, mmkay?

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[Nynaeve]

I never said it was, but I was exploring all the possibilities. From my perspective, I voted someone with no pressure. Then someone else did. Was odd.

 

ok, fair enough.

[Lenlo]

I don't understand why it doesn't make sense to you, Lenlo.

 

I believe it's more accountable now. Now, the opinion of more players is taken into account. More players agree on one person.

Yeah, but its taking the accountability for YOU out of the equation. Your not voting Kiv because you think hes the wolfiest person, your voting him because enough other people told you to. So if/when he flips town you can say "But I just voted the way everyone else did! Its there fault we lynched a towny!"

 

Your basically sheeping on a mass level, asking who your most allowed to lynch and going with it.

[Shad_]

Going to [v]Hallia[/v] for now but Kivam certainly hasn't done anything to look towny.

[Zander?]

See I dont like that Besie post. Like.. you basically said "Screw my opinion, im going to vote the way everyone else wants to vote. No accountability!"

 

Whats the Kiv push? Whats it from, why is it building so fast?

 

Whats wrong with the Kiv push?

[Turin Turambar]

 

Dice, kiv, maybe Nyn, maybe Celeste, maybe Hallia, maybe Bess.

 

TBH this asking for wtl lists and looking to pick that way gives mafia too much say in the days lynch.

 

Dice feels grumpy in a fake way. Also trying to hide behind jokes.

 

Kiv nearly always pings to me. I don't really like lynching anyone when they obviously won't be around Tho.

Well done on also having all 4 people that are wtl you, in your wtl list. Obv not completely objective, is it?

Logic:

 

I KNOW I am town.

 

People put me on their lists for reasons that I find lacking.

 

Mafia want to lynch townies.

 

See point 1.

 

Why should I not be suspicious of people that are pushing my only confirmed townie for what I felt were bad reasons.

 

Seph only had me down as deep wolfin.

Celeste had a gobbledy gook post

You had it as a conditional that you backed away from.

Nyn I forgot but it was a slide for disagreement about Thane I think. (see mention of who backed off quickly)

 

Did I miss anyone?

[Guest]

What do you want to do, Lenlo? WHAT alternative plan do you have? You want to leave it to chance?

 

You too, Turin?

 

It's 50 minutes to DL. Please, do come up with a plan that everyone will agree on.

[Shad_]

Darthe next to iso

[Zander?]

What do you want to do, Lenlo? WHAT alternative plan do you have? You want to leave it to chance?

 

You too, Turin?

 

It's 50 minutes to DL. Please, do come up with a plan that everyone will agree on.

 

Follow Zander imo.

[dicetosser1]

liking len

[Zander?]

Darthe next to iso

 

What did you take away from your Kiv ISO?

[Guest]

 

I don't understand why it doesn't make sense to you, Lenlo.

 

I believe it's more accountable now. Now, the opinion of more players is taken into account. More players agree on one person.

Yeah, but its taking the accountability for YOU out of the equation. Your not voting Kiv because you think hes the wolfiest person, your voting him because enough other people told you to. So if/when he flips town you can say "But I just voted the way everyone else did! Its there fault we lynched a towny!"

 

Your basically sheeping on a mass level, asking who your most allowed to lynch and going with it.

Thats not how it works. I voted. Which makes his lynch mine too.

 

Was that tmi, btw?

[Lenlo]

 

See I dont like that Besie post. Like.. you basically said "Screw my opinion, im going to vote the way everyone else wants to vote. No accountability!"

 

Whats the Kiv push? Whats it from, why is it building so fast?

 

Whats wrong with the Kiv push?

 

The fact that theres no case against him that I have seen?

[Lenlo]

 

 

I don't understand why it doesn't make sense to you, Lenlo.

 

I believe it's more accountable now. Now, the opinion of more players is taken into account. More players agree on one person.

Yeah, but its taking the accountability for YOU out of the equation. Your not voting Kiv because you think hes the wolfiest person, your voting him because enough other people told you to. So if/when he flips town you can say "But I just voted the way everyone else did! Its there fault we lynched a towny!"

 

Your basically sheeping on a mass level, asking who your most allowed to lynch and going with it.

Thats not how it works. I voted. Which makes his lynch mine too.

 

Was that tmi, btw?

 

What? Yeah you voted but you basically let everyone else decide where your vote went for you. Thats like saying you have a gun and letting Zander decide who you shoot. Its not your fault they died its Zanders!

[Lenlo]

What do you want to do, Lenlo? WHAT alternative plan do you have? You want to leave it to chance?

 

You too, Turin?

 

It's 50 minutes to DL. Please, do come up with a plan that everyone will agree on.

My alternative? TALK. Push who YOU think is a wolf, not who everyone else thinks. We dont secure a lynch? It goes random. We get a flip. We see who refused to vote.  Who refused to close. A random is not the worst thing in the world.

 

Besides my problem isnt with you trying to consolidate people. My problem is you gave up all accountability for YOUR vote and gave it to the public. Real easy deniability.

[Guest]

It's not Zander. It's 6 different people.

[Zander?]

 

 

See I dont like that Besie post. Like.. you basically said "Screw my opinion, im going to vote the way everyone else wants to vote. No accountability!"

 

Whats the Kiv push? Whats it from, why is it building so fast?

 

Whats wrong with the Kiv push?

 

The fact that theres no case against him that I have seen?

 

 

hes not playing at all like he did in his last town game.

 

hes only looked at me and hallia and tried to link us together.

 

he backs off me and votes hallia when i call it out.

 

little to no thread presence.

 

seems legit to me.

[Guest]

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[Lenlo]

Going to [v]Hallia[/v] for now but Kivam certainly hasn't done anything to look towny.

He hasnt, but he also hasnt been the wolfiest person in the game. I dont understand how he is suddenly the CFD of the day. There was no case. There was no ISO. Just a wave of "Lets all vote Kiv!"

 

And if Kiv flips town im looking at the first few people to start this up this late in the day.

[Lenlo]

It's not Zander. It's 6 different people.

Congrats. So you took your gun, gave it to 6 different people, let them talk it over and then shot whoever they told you. You didnt murder them! The 6 people did!

 

The number doesnt negate the point Bessie.

[Guest]

I'm keeping my Kivam vote.

 

I hope he flips scum. Then it'll be fun to see what everyone makes of you, Len.