Ghostbusters Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Wins!

[Eldrick4221]

If Sooh is scum, I think her piggy back vote on nikon after me might spew nikon town.

[Ithillian Turambar]

 

Official Vote Count

 

Alanna (1): Turin

Nikon (1): Sooh

Turin (1): Alanna

Dice (2): Tsuki, Eldrick

Niniel (1): Dice

 

 

Not Voting (2): Niniel, Nikon

 

 

With 8 alive it takes 5 to Lynch

 

 

Day 4 Deadline is 9pm BST Wednesday 27 April - you can achieve a majority Lynch at any point before then.

 

End of Day 4

 

No Change. 26 1/2 ish hours till deadline

[Eldrick4221]

Just checked. She hasn't posted since her vote on nikon.

[Eldrick4221]

She claimed. She discussed her claim. She asked Tsuki is his result was the same as n1's. She voted nikon "to add pressure"

[Niniel]

BFG/Nikon

 

I can´t say much one way or another about BFG. She posted less than I´m used to. She was out travelling and that could be why. She asked good questions. I agreed with her vote on Rey. She defended Zander and Dice. But there are no "digging in" posts that I´m used to from BFG. I can´t say if she just was too busy in rl or if she avoided making firm mafia reads. 

 

Nikon still hasn´t caught up. I didn´t read his catch up posts because they are not interesting to me until he actually finish reading the whole game and actually gives reads that has to do with now. 

 

 

Conclusion: how can I say if they are town or mafia with so few posts? (And I´m not just talking postcount but also what they wrote.) In my poe just because I need more. 

[Niniel]

You are right about sooh. Literally the only reason I stepped back from her lynch is that if she is telling the truth, we want to keep that role.

 

Shad and rte's interactions with Lenlo look really bad for Sooh.

 

Also, I don't think it's both dice and laine. It's possible. Anything's possible. But this mind melding feels weird for w/w.

 

Tsuki is lock clear atp to me. I believe you and turin are town.

 

The remaining wolves are in laine, Dice, Sooh, and nikon.

 

I'm leaning dice and nikon right now.

 

I´ll go back and take a look at my old notes. I also remember a connection between Shad and Lenlo. 

 

I think you are right with Dice, Sooh and Nikon. I´ve liked Laine´s posts for most of the time and it´s just if Sooh would show mafia that I would take a look at her. Also, did she claim a role? 

[Turin Turambar]

You are right about sooh. Literally the only reason I stepped back from her lynch is that if she is telling the truth, we want to keep that role.

 

Shad and rte's interactions with Lenlo look really bad for Sooh.

 

Also, I don't think it's both dice and laine. It's possible. Anything's possible. But this mind melding feels weird for w/w.

 

Tsuki is lock clear atp to me. I believe you and turin are town.

 

The remaining wolves are in laine, Dice, Sooh, and nikon.

 

I'm leaning dice and nikon right now.

Do you have some shad or RTE posts that look bad on Len/Sooh?

 

Could you quote them? I'm computerly challenged at present.

[Eldrick4221]

I am too. Sorry.

 

I'll look tonight.

[Niniel]

Here are posts that made me connect Shad with Len.

 

#1507 A negative post  about Len but then he is a "work in progress". Look at the last sentence - he will understand Lenlo sooner or later. 

 

@ Lenlo through p60, I guess what I'm seeing is you've been very argumentative/accusative with your suspects but I don't feel like it's been terribly productive.  Like, I'm struggling to get in your head and understand what does Lenlo think he will gain from asking these questions?  I dunno.  I mean I just watched you boss MVP a game where you literally knew 2/3 of the scum team in advance, and your pushes on them read different from typical town!Lenlo pushes because we read a lot more into things when we know the person we're talking to is mafia.  And I don't know if I'm seeing some residue of that here or if you're just making **** up because you don't have a real case.  I probably sound like a dick if you're town, but you're a work in progress for me.  I think if you're villa I'll get there in time.

 

Swagger... lol...might iso sometime.

 

Tsuki
Laine
Eldrick
Turin
Dice
Niniel

Hallia
Reyoru
Lenlo
BFG
RTE

 

Dice probably the biggest move for me.  The focus on self-defense makes it a little harder to get a clear read on him--through no fault of his own--but when I think about Dragon Reborn and how... kind of obviously scummy he was there.  Not feeling that here.  I think if he's town then if he can get the pressure off his back it's going to show more clearly in time, and I think he's probably town.  Niniel was an incredibly easy read for me in DR, like within two serious posts she was my top villa for the entire phase.  It didn't strike me as obvious here on D1, but this phase she may very well be out of her scum range on shear quantity of content alone.  Granted I've only seen her wolf once, she was super lurky and I gathered that was the norm.  I dig it.  Lenlo is maintaining his swagger of late but still not really leaving much of an impact in my memory banks, and I don't know what to make of that, and lol ISOs maybe I'll get there some day.  BFG deserves a pass on inactivity.  I mean she just literally lost Eldrick's game for forgetting to submit her night kill.  But I'm not really impressed by what I've seen so far.  If you're town do that thing you do and I'll probably read you correctly.  [v]RTE[/v] can die today.

 

I might read too much into this but in the first post it looks like he will understand Lenlo but more like "now you are mafia but will see if you are town". Here he says that he doesn´t read Lenlo well and want to give Sooh more time. 

 

I'd like to give BFG more time, Sooh just subbed in and I read her a lot more easily than Lenlo. I wouldn't lynch either of them right now. I suppose I wouldn't try and stop a lynch on Rey.

 

And here he starts going after Lenlo more after RTE´s flip.

 

 

Turin's idea that Dice may in fact be a third party is an interesting claim. If we argue that it is likely that there is at least one third party player in the game, I would put Dice in that slot at this point. However, his early breadcrumbing of not being able to die (yes, I do understand how a treestump works, I just figure he took some liberties with that comment) does give some credence to his claim. That being said he may just trying to be staying alive as a survivor, which to me also seems quite plausible. Third party would make sense with his gameplay as well (staying out of Zander Turin voting, for example).

Really grasping at straws to get Dice lynched before his own time comes, at this point. Can we just lock Dice in?

 

Turin
Lenlo
Alanna
Tsuki (admittedly, only because of his claim, not his content)
Eldrick
Rey
Hallia

BFG
Niniel
Shad
Dice

Zander

Final D1 read list. Lenlo still at the top with no explanation. He'd softly sussed both Eldrick and Hallia in #1160--I couldn't tell if it was distancing or shade. Here he acts on the Hallia bit to slide her down, but keeps Eldrick planted in his greens.  He also drops me down to third from the bottom after expressing "town vibes" earlier, at a point when my activity level was starting to dwindle.

 

Summary of D1 RTE spew: Dice almost certainly town spewed, looks great for Turin.  RTE acted on opportunities to slide Hallia and I down into his POE, but not Eldrick.  Lenlo rides a town read on his list for no reason all phase.  From just RTE's posts in isolation I'd say D1 looks worst for Eldrick and Lenlo.

 

I'll read his reappearance yesterday later.  Gotta go cook dinner etc.

 

[Niniel]

My impression is that Shad had Lenlo as mafia-kind-of-thing all time but never did anything about it. Now, I don´t know if I should actually base any reads on Shad´s posts at all.

 

I looked at my old iso of Lenlo. My main thing about him was how he went after Dice. That was when I had a town read on Dice. I don´t anymore. So I don´t think it´s Sooh and Dice together. 

 

About Sooh: I´m mostly suspicious of that claim. 

 

 

 

When it comes to Dice I defended his early game and I think I was right then. But I have to agree with Turin. After that he hasn´t done much. Today´s posts are not good. His reasons for voting me and Turin are few and short. Turin has asked him over and over to show what posts looks slimy but he won´t. I feel with all these posts (we are at page 156) there must be more than a gut feeling to point at. 

 

 

[v] Dice [/v]

 

 

 

I could also vote Sooh or Nikon. More unsure about those though.

[Niniel]

Actually, I don´t feel good about Sooh´s claim at all. Take a look at it. Could she be blocking Tsuki? Have I missed something? I have Laine as town but if Sooh turns out mafia like Shad (used block) then she tried to protect Laine. 

[Eldrick4221]

I don't know if it's protecting laine or that she listed laine because that's who Tsuki said he tried to view.

[Eldrick4221]

I remember one of the things. Shad's early list.

 

He listed a handful of people as town reads. Lenlo stuck out as the only one on the list I didn't agree with at the time.

[Sooh]

I don't know if it's protecting laine or that she listed laine because that's who Tsuki said he tried to view.

Actually Tsuki told everyone who he had viewed after I told who I had jailed, so that doesn't really work now does it`?

[Eldrick4221]

To be more specific, at the time of my pointing out the list.

[Sooh]

Anyway, I've been seriously demotivated with this game due to all the claims, and I need to start from the beginning, trying to forget who claimed what. If I want to find scum among all these claims that's what I need to do. 

[Eldrick4221]

 

I don't know if it's protecting laine or that she listed laine because that's who Tsuki said he tried to view.

Actually Tsuki told everyone who he had viewed after I told who I had jailed, so that doesn't really work now does it`?

I wasn't sure if I was remembering that correctly.

[Sooh]

Plus grading papers is dreadfully boring, but has to be done. I have 12 more by Friday. Any volunteers?

[Sooh]

Going to start from the beginning now.  Wish me luck.

[Niniel]

 

I don't know if it's protecting laine or that she listed laine because that's who Tsuki said he tried to view.

Actually Tsuki told everyone who he had viewed after I told who I had jailed, so that doesn't really work now does it`?

 

 

My point is that if you had blocked him then you would know he wouldn´t get a result. If he viewed Laine or not wouldn´t matter. 

 

Plus grading papers is dreadfully boring, but has to be done. I have 12 more by Friday. Any volunteers?

 

 

 Ugh. I´m so happy that I have few pupils. I hate grading. 

[Sooh]

 

 

I don't know if it's protecting laine or that she listed laine because that's who Tsuki said he tried to view.

Actually Tsuki told everyone who he had viewed after I told who I had jailed, so that doesn't really work now does it`?

 

 

My point is that if you had blocked him then you would know he wouldn´t get a result. If he viewed Laine or not wouldn´t matter. 

 

Plus grading papers is dreadfully boring, but has to be done. I have 12 more by Friday. Any volunteers?

 

 

 Ugh. I´m so happy that I have few pupils. I hate grading. 

 

Yes, but me saying I had jailed Laine and then him saying he had tried to view Laine and failed. That would be some coincidence, huh? It's not like he told everyone who he would view.

[Turin Turambar]

Doesn't it bother you at all that you are using Shad's interpretation of RTE spew to clear dice? I mean RTE called dice 3p. It could easily be a signal for all we know.

 

Who would mafia Shad look to protect? His buddy Dice or a symp he may or may not know exists?

[Turin Turambar]

That was to Niniel.

[alannalynn]

A reminder: I wont be here today. I have my hardest final in the morning and I woke up later than I intended so it's cram time for me.

 

Will definitely be here tomorrow after 11am EST though

[Turin Turambar]

Going to start from the beginning now. Wish me luck.

Good luck.