Ghostbusters Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Wins!

[Eldrick4221]

 

I still can't believe the single biggest reason people are questioning my being town is that i flipflop on my reads. It's called being unsure. It's called being horrible at this game. If you really want to lynch me because I suck, then I'm not gonna stop you.

 

 

eldrick  chill bro. take a breath.

 

now im not scum reading you cause of shad cause ive seen you do it before.

 

im seeing things you do that are scummy to me   like the flip flopping  but that probably means ure town considering how well we read each other lol

 

 

i am purposely leaving you in my nulls and relying on others ideas

 

 

also  you will eventually get a run of prs and find that it changes ure game because it will free you up to just play without caring

Underlined: there seems to be too much of this happening for me. 

 

That actually means a lot.

 

Thank you dice.

LOL Wut???

 

I'm getting so sick of you guys accusing me of being scum solely by my interactions with Shad.

 

Is there literally nothing else that makes you suspicious of me? Cuz it's a lousy reason. I CAN'T READ HIM.

 

I don't know why I try.

 

This is nearly the same thing Shad said. And to me it sounds the same from both of you. That you are unhappy about being sussed for the "wrong reason".  

 

Technically yes. The reasons you are sussing me are null reasons for me and are therefore "wrong reasons". Thinking I'm scum to begin with is a whole different kind of wrong, but that's the only kind scum can know, which I don't think you are.

 

I'm annoyed that I have to deal with this crap every single game.

 

Now I'm gonna go back to digging through the thread looking for who stayed away from the Zander/You lynch cuz of the maybe clue from RTE.

[Eldrick4221]

Ok, so my initial thought was that this post was a signal to the mafia that he was the Symp.

 

 

I am surprised this isn't more clear to be honest. The way I see it is the only people who know Turin and Zander's alignment is the mafia. Now if they are both town, easiest move for Mafia would be to stay off of either of them entirely. Therefore, if both turn out to be town, or only Zander as I already think Turin is town, I am most suspicious of those who have never voted on either of them or jumped off early. 

 

 

 After reading it again, that idea was bunk, but I did notice something interesting.

 

Post numbers of votes and unvotes

 

 

#437 Turin's Claim

#441 Dice unvotes Turin

#540 Rey votes Zander

#662 Lenlo votes Zander

#665 Hally votes Zander

#690 Eldrick votes Zander

#691 Lenlo unvotes

#765 Eldrick unvotes

#775 Nini votes Zander

#778 Nini unvotes

#825 Nini votes Zander

#997 Hally unvotes

 

People that stayed on: Rey, Hally*

Quickly unvote: Lenlo, Eldrick, Nini

Stayed off: Tsuki, BFG, Dice, Shad, Laine

 

 

 

I'm here, at least for a bit. What would people like me to answer?

 

Zander is shouting a lot about progressing my views but I don't feel like content in thread has changed my views very much. Well, at least specifically not on him, and as my strongest scum read I don't see a reason for moving my vote. With each post I've tried to list players whose most recent interactions had me feel one way or another about them, moving them up or down the town-mafia continuum. Here's an updated reads list:

 

Turin

Lenlo

Alanna

Tsuki (admittedly, only because of his claim, not his content)

Eldrick

Rey

Hallia

 

BFG

Niniel

Shad

Dice

Zander

I guess I'd describe progression of my views as follows:

 

Hallia's vote-jumping in combination with her consensus posts  has her trending down on my list. John started off very strong but Hallia throwing her vote around and justifying it retrospectively is not doing her any favours in terms of looking town.

 

Turin's idea that Dice may in fact be a third party is an interesting claim. If we argue that it is likely that there is at least one third party player in the game, I would put Dice in that slot at this point. However, his early breadcrumbing of not being able to die (yes, I do understand how a treestump works, I just figure he took some liberties with that comment) does give some credence to his claim. That being said he may just trying to be staying alive as a survivor, which to me also seems quite plausible. Third party would make sense with his gameplay as well (staying out of Zander Turin voting, for example). 

 

I still do feel like Mafia are avoiding Zander and Turin, and as I said should Zander flip town I would look at people who didn't vote either of them. While mafia obviously will vote to lynch townies, if Zander flips town, and I believe Turin is town, then they stayed off the early trains and played it safe by not committing a vote to either that could be later used against them or invite scrutiny. That is why it is so important one of them dies today, because I think that will reflect in a meaningful way on a number of players. Furthermore, there are other people that the cop can use his view tonight to vet, such as Dice for instance. 

 

Finally, there is no one else I would lynch who I believe is more likely to be scum than Zander, and as I said, his or Turin's lynch would offer the most information this early in the game. I don't think the fact that I need to remember to check the thread and can't do so as easily on my phone, and that I've been quite busy and stressed in real life, is indicative of my alignment in the game. I am town. I am not revealing my role or identity. I think Mafia already have their hands full with potential kills tonight, don't need to give them any more information than they already have. I would also like to stress that Tsuki is only town IMO because of his claim. Nothing he has posted would get him out of the null category otherwise, and prior to his claim I had him as a scum read. While we don't have a CC, the real cop may just be playing it safe. Therefore prior to some evidence I would also treat him with some modest scrutiny. Hopefully he uses his PR to contribute more to the game in coming days. Finally, my nulls (in orange) is where I think the rest of the scum team are hiding. 

 

 

 

Assuming he knew who the mafia were, he made the earlier statement knowing Zander would flip town.

 

Which would mean he would suspect Lenlo, Laine and me for quickly unvoting, and would suspect Tsuki, BFG, Dice, Shad and Laine for staying out of it.

 

Bolded in his reads list only a few posts later show the discrepencies in his suspicion.

 

Lenlo jumps out at me.

[Eldrick4221]

Hally asterisked because the didn't "unvote quickly". She eventually moved to me, but I didn't count that in his reasoning.

[Eldrick4221]

I also realize that that line called out basically the whole game. Everyone except for Rey and Hally.

[Eldrick4221]

And Zander and Turin, obviously. It was under the assumption that they were v/v.

[Nikonis]

Just finishing uo some issues that came up at the office last night then hooe to get back to catching up as i can through the day and then moreso affer work.

[Tsukibana]

*whistles in the dark*

Boy, I sure hope I survive this long, dreary night...

[Eldrick4221]

Just finished watching the movie. Dana Barrett and Louis Tully. Neighbors. I see what you did there.

[Eldrick4221]

Thematic tinfoiling. Winston zeddemore is the guy that got hired onto the ghostbusters team. Mafia symp.

 

Something tells me recruit was possible, and that the mafia team IS the ghostbusters team.

[Eldrick4221]

And with that, I'd like to reiterate that we shouldn't character claim anymore for the chance of it breaking the game.

[Eldrick4221]

I'm not staying up 3 more hours. As much as I wanna see what happened tonight, I also need sleep.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Sleep is always good. I've only just got home from work so I'll check what's occuring :)

[alannalynn]

*taps foot*

[Ithillian Turambar]

Ugh. The weather is nice today so everyone and his dog were out and the traffic was terrible. I'm getting through everything now :)

[alannalynn]

*taps foot more*

[Tsukibana]

[Ithillian Turambar]

Night 2 results

 

Rey has been Killed. He was:

 

 

Lenny Clotch - The Mayor - 2 x Governor

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It is now Day 3. I'll add a timer and update the OP when I've got my boys in bed, but it'll be set till 9pm BST on Monday.

[Turin Turambar]

Eldrick and Shad trains... Go!!!

 

[V] Shad [/v]

 

Rey made a good case.

 

I guess that's why he didn't claim early.

[Shad_]

Putting Turin on ignore.

[Shad_]

I'm most interested in Sooh and Nikon today.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Oh I'll do the voting list then too. Is bedtime and stories soon.

[Reyoru]

Bring it home town!

 

[Ithillian Turambar]

Rey ... would you mind spoilering that cos of mobile folks? It's really glitch in for me.

 

Thank you so much :)

[Ithillian Turambar]

Also Ugh lol

[Tsukibana]

Eldrick and Shad trains... Go!!!

 

[V] Shad [/v]

 

Rey made a good case.

 

I guess that's why he didn't claim early.

 

There is no Eldrick train, unless you can convince me he is GF...