[Advanced] Salem Mafia - GAME OVER - MAFIA WIN

[Eldrick4221]

Vote counts
 
Hally (1) - Zander

Lily (1) - Turin

 
Not voting: Everyone else
 
Day 1 Ends on Friday at 5pm.
 

[BFG]

Darthe had light town reads on Dice/Sili, tested Hallia and Shad, I quite liked their initial reactions.

 

Sili was suspicious of Lily, and town reading Dice/Darthe.

 

I can't see any obvious smoking guns

 

 

 

 

Doce and sili are town?

 

Lol we have 4 non-town this game and have had 7 of our 10 players check in.  The wolves are among us.  Wake up sheeple!

 

 

Shad SK confirmed

 

 

 

 

Hally wolf?

 

Hally wolf.

 

 

You know it

 

 

 

your both goofballs

dice who you want me to shoot tonight?

 

 

 

Why lil, I hear the invisible man say?

 

'all'

 

You can extrapolate what I mean from there. *shrug*

 

[BFG]

[v]Zander[/v]

[Turin Turambar]

That reminds me, my N0 peek is Thane W if anyone cares

Thane hadn't posted at that time.  So it's possible it was just Darthe being Darthe. 

 

All of Thane's posts. No content at all. 

 

 

ok.... well... I'll do my best to keep up this game. Hopefully it'll stay quiet this week. 

 

Hiyas all

 

 

ok.... well... I'll do my best to keep up this game. Hopefully it'll stay quiet this week. 

 

Hiyas all

 

 

cloudflare, gotta love it

 

 

I get the feeling that this game will be insane.... 

 

 

 

 

I love how pineapple is getting more votes :D

 

It articulates my thoughts on the matter the most directly of the three options.

 

totally agreed there

 

 

 

i guess it'll be as long as it takes....

 

 

yeah, it's not even D1 yet, lol

 

 

battletanks?

 

 

 

*dies*

 

 

 

Thane, in what way do you think this game will be insane?

[BFG]

Pretty sure that was in response to Sili though, and there aren't any roles that would have a result that early

[Eldrick4221]

Vote counts

 

 
Hally (1) - Zander

Lily (1) - Turin

Zander (1) - BFG

 
Not voting: Everyone else
 
Day 1 Ends on Friday at 5pm.
 

[Turin Turambar]

awesome

 

 

id never remember the polls and honestly i think they are a bad idea as some people use their votes as a tactic

I don't understand how using the poll or not has anything to do with using your vote as a tactic. Either the ITT vote or the poll vote will be listed as the "valid" vote. from there it is a matter of adjusting to the rules just like if you have to unvote before your next vote counts or how strict the MOD will be about vote formats. 

 

 

Interesting point, Dice.

 

put the tinfoil down halli   I was thinking  of shad in particular

 

Why Shad? has he done the vote format thing or some other similar legal shenanigans?

 

I have no answer to that for definite. Has she done anything I think is scummy? No. Dice, I meant interesting as in I liked your point. Its thoughtful.

Not sure how I feel about this post. Can you explain how you found it thoughtful? Maybe I am missing something.

[Turin Turambar]

[v]Zander[/v]

Wombatting?

 

Pretty sure that was in response to Sili though, and there aren't any roles that would have a result that early

I know that Sili replied to him after. You might be right. I was just trying to see who might want Darthe dead.

 

I'll be back in a bit. gonna catch up on Ithi's game now. 

[dicetosser1]

 

awesome

 

 

id never remember the polls and honestly i think they are a bad idea as some people use their votes as a tactic

I don't understand how using the poll or not has anything to do with using your vote as a tactic. Either the ITT vote or the poll vote will be listed as the "valid" vote. from there it is a matter of adjusting to the rules just like if you have to unvote before your next vote counts or how strict the MOD will be about vote formats. 

 

 

Interesting point, Dice.

 

put the tinfoil down halli   I was thinking  of shad in particular

 

Why Shad? has he done the vote format thing or some other similar legal shenanigans?

 

 

 

Yes he did. I know of at least one occasion where shad faked his vote as scum on purpose and iirc it worked a bit. The poll takes that strategy out of the game

[dicetosser1]

now  as to lily

 

I ve had to change my mind when i realised that Darthe was the mafia kill. I was thinking sili was and thought that too obvious  so thought it was setting lily up.

[Eldrick4221]

That's a fair point against the poll idea. Thank you for your input. :)

[dicetosser1]

np eldrick

[Turin Turambar]

 

 

awesome

 

 

id never remember the polls and honestly i think they are a bad idea as some people use their votes as a tactic

I don't understand how using the poll or not has anything to do with using your vote as a tactic. Either the ITT vote or the poll vote will be listed as the "valid" vote. from there it is a matter of adjusting to the rules just like if you have to unvote before your next vote counts or how strict the MOD will be about vote formats. 

 

 

Interesting point, Dice.

 

put the tinfoil down halli   I was thinking  of shad in particular

 

Why Shad? has he done the vote format thing or some other similar legal shenanigans?

 

 

Yes he did. I know of at least one occasion where shad faked his vote as scum on purpose and iirc it worked a bit. The poll takes that strategy out of the game

 

Last I'm gonna mention this cause I think it could become a distraction. I just don't see how it prevents "fake" voting. Either the ITT vote OR the poll vote is the "official vote" the MOD will accept. You could "fake vote" by putting it in thread and not putting it in the poll or vice versa. I think it actually makes it easier to fake especially during the initial trial period (if the idea gets picked up) 

 

Last questions: Do you think mafia or town is more likely to "fake vote"? If mafia or even, why do you think it is a bad idea to take what many would consider (I do anyway) an angle-shooty thing away from mafia? 

[Eldrick4221]

I'm gonna extend the DL, cuz this day is going by so slowly. gonna stretch it over the weekend.

 

Sunday 5pm is the new DL

 

[Shad_]

Morning

[Shad_]

A reminder that not all roles work the way you are used to.

 

The wiki linked in the OP explains how they work.

 

If I can't even draw alignment conclusions from Sili's roleblock, shoot me now.  -_-

[Shad_]

Pretty sure that was in response to Sili though, and there aren't any roles that would have a result that early

 

And it wasn't actually N0 yet, and Darthe didn't leave a will.

[Shad_]

Last I'm gonna mention this cause I think it could become a distraction. I just don't see how it prevents "fake" voting. Either the ITT vote OR the poll vote is the "official vote" the MOD will accept. You could "fake vote" by putting it in thread and not putting it in the poll or vice versa. I think it actually makes it easier to fake especially during the initial trial period (if the idea gets picked up) 

 

Last questions: Do you think mafia or town is more likely to "fake vote"? If mafia or even, why do you think it is a bad idea to take what many would consider (I do anyway) an angle-shooty thing away from mafia?

I actually included the must unvote rule in my last game to give players on both sides the option to manipulate it, and was told later that that's angle-shooty/not really in the spirit of things/not the intended purpose of the unovte rule.

 

I mean, if I wanted to manipulate the system I could have found a way to, and I think it's at least a sign that Dice is paying attention to have dropped my name there.

[Shad_]

What Sili said to me irt his conversation with Dice was basically that Dice seemed like he was enjoying himself.

[Shad_]

At least at this game's snail's pace Thane shouldn't have a serious issue keeping up.  >_>

[Shad_]

Plus side to this field is I only need confident villa reads on 3-4 of you to have a pretty decent shot at lynching non-towns.

[Shad_]

I have a modest expectation for BFG.

 

I should be in and out all day.  Hopefully things pick up here a bit.

[Eldrick4221]

I just realized that I didn't make a stance on that. Unvoting is not required. Vote tags are appreciated, but not required. As long as your vote is obvious, I'm good.

[Hallia]

 

 

Hallia is Lily Scum iyo?

 

I have an answer for this but will wait til halli answers

 

 

Thank you,

 

And now that I answered, what of it?

 

 

Darthe was killed by Mafia. This role has been cleaned.

 

Nothing was found with his body.

 

Sili was killed by Serial Killer. His role was Escort.

 

The following was left in his Will:

 

 

Msg

 

Rbd bfg

 

Darthe dice shad seem town from whispers and other stuff.

 

Lynch lil pls.

 

Blackmailer - Mafia Support - Give someone a PR for the following day.

Consigliere - Mafia Support - Mafia-aligned Investigator.

Consort - Mafia Support - Roleblock someone each night.

Framer - Mafia Deception - Choose one person to frame each night. (They will view as Mafia – Framer)

Godfather - Mafia Killing - Assign someone to be killed each night. Will submit the Nightkill personally if there isn't a Mafioso.

Janitor - Mafia Deception - Choose a person to clean each night, if they die. 3X cleanings

Mafioso - Mafia Killing - Night Kill. Carry out the Godfather's orders, if applicable.

Mafia got off two actions--a killing action and a Janitor action. Serial Killer got off a kill. So BFG can only be town or the Neutral Any slot.

 

Are there only two mafia?

 

 

Why ask Hallia in particular?

 

 

 

I have an answer for this but will wait til halli answers

 

???

 

I'm not sure what they meant by it.

[v] Lily [/v] Sheeping Sili while I reread.

I find this vote gross and lazy.

Darthe had light town reads on Dice/Sili, tested Hallia and Shad, I quite liked their initial reactions.

 

Sili was suspicious of Lily, and town reading Dice/Darthe.

 

I can't see any obvious smoking guns

 

 

 

 

Doce and sili are town?

 

Lol we have 4 non-town this game and have had 7 of our 10 players check in.  The wolves are among us.  Wake up sheeple!

 

Shad SK confirmed

 

Hally wolf?

 

Hally wolf.

 

 

You know it

 

 

 

your both goofballs

dice who you want me to shoot tonight?

 

 

 

Why lil, I hear the invisible man say?

 

'all'

 

You can extrapolate what I mean from there. *shrug*

 

 

[v]Zander[/v]

I like your above reads, but what about Zander makes you vote him?

Pretty sure that was in response to Sili though, and there aren't any roles that would have a result that early

I agree; there is no way that I can see that Derf would've had a peek on Thane.

 

awesome

 

 

id never remember the polls and honestly i think they are a bad idea as some people use their votes as a tactic

I don't understand how using the poll or not has anything to do with using your vote as a tactic. Either the ITT vote or the poll vote will be listed as the "valid" vote. from there it is a matter of adjusting to the rules just like if you have to unvote before your next vote counts or how strict the MOD will be about vote formats. 

 

 

Interesting point, Dice.

 

put the tinfoil down halli   I was thinking  of shad in particular

 

Why Shad? has he done the vote format thing or some other similar legal shenanigans?

 

I have no answer to that for definite. Has she done anything I think is scummy? No. Dice, I meant interesting as in I liked your point. Its thoughtful.

Not sure how I feel about this post. Can you explain how you found it thoughtful? Maybe I am missing something.

 

I see that it got explained overnight, are you still confused?  I want some pressure here.  The sheeping of Sili onto Lily with no reasoning doesn't cut it.

 

Vote: Turin

[Eldrick4221]

Vote counts

 

Hally (1) - Zander

Lily (1) - Turin

Turin (1) - Hally

 

Not voting: BFG, Lily, Shad, Dice, Turin

 

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to start the Voting Phase.

 

Day 1 Ends on Sunday at 5pm.