[Advanced] Salem Mafia - GAME OVER - MAFIA WIN

[Sooh]

 

Vote counts

 

Zander (2) - BFG, seph

Thane (2) - Shad, Hallia

 

Not voting: Everyone else.

 

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to start the Voting Phase.

 

Day 1 Ends on Sunday at 5pm (Arizona time)

 

 

[Thane Vakarian]

@BFG: wouldn't do much good voting anybody else than me. I think we all know who's going to bite the dust. And I already know that when i do, i'll get 'he should have played better' comments. But, really, I can't be bothered by it.

 

I'll answer just the question, why Darthe and not Shad? Darthe NK would have been too obvious. That he's janitored doesn't help. Shad'd be smart enough for that play imo.  

in addition, Turin has been N1 target a lot, yes. But, yeah, wouldn't be surprised if he'd be non-town this game. Call it a hunch here, looking at the reactions.

[Thane Vakarian]

*WHISPERS TO BFG*

[BFG]

Whispers to Thane

[Thane Vakarian]

Whispers back to BFG

[Thane Vakarian]

DL is coming, and I'll not be around to see it. Not feeling too great and very tired after a weekend of working in the house (all hallways will be re-plastered this coming week and i did all the prepping).

 

I'll go with one of my bottom three who already has votes

 

[v] Zander [/v]

 

If I can't townread him after all this time, he probably isn't town this game.

[seph]

Seph- is feeling lonely :(

[Thane Vakarian]

would a vote on you make you feel better?

[seph]

No one whispers me, maybe talking to myself would help.

 

*nods* it's not crazy at all

[Thane Vakarian]

they say that intelligent people do have tendencies to talk to themselves.....

[seph]

Thane what do you think of hallia?

 

Also I don't think it would be crazy for shad to flip wolf or neutral. I already have My town core for the most part. I think I might be wrong on 1 of the three.

[BFG]

Whispers sweet nothings to Thane

[BFG]

I think Thane is probably a bad choice

[Thane Vakarian]

Hallia? I don't know. Not convinced she's town yet, nothing incriminating enough yet to put her in the non-town pile. Good NA target IMO

[BFG]

I'll be around 'properly' later on

 

And will probably ISO Shad/Zander again

 

Seph, can you talk about your read on Dice?

[Thane Vakarian]

Dice, for me, is pure toneread in D1, and my senses tell me he's probably town this game. He has taken the time to actually read everything in the game, which is nice. He looks at different angles and tries to figure things out.  

[seph]

I already explained it when I posted it.

It seems like he is assessing the situations from different perspectives. I have really liked his tone throughout the game. But worries me because it's the end of day one, and I haven't seen him dig his claws (take a solid stance) on anyone, as turin pointed out.

After rereading a bit I have him as my lowest town below you and thane.

[seph]

I think Thane is probably a bad choice

I have been saying this since I entered the game lol.

[seph]

This is were my head is at currently. I am about to reread day 1 though.

I feel like these people have a very high percentage to not be mafia, if at all. this is my town core. 
Bfg
Thane
dice

you can flip turin and shad if zander flips nuetral. if that happens the wolf team i feel is in the bottom still.


Turin- most likely nuetral-town, very small chance at mafia
shad- really high chance if zander flips mafia to be his teammate. decent chance to be nuetral, small chance to be town 
hallia- Most likely nuetral. has a small chance to be mafia with zander.
Zander nuetral-mafia-  if mafia lynch shad most likely as his teamate

[dicetosser1]

 

 

 

 

now  as to lily

 

I ve had to change my mind when i realised that Darthe was the mafia kill. I was thinking sili was and thought that too obvious  so thought it was setting lily up.

 

 

3 man solve?

 

not not not you other then that i got nothing at this point   possibly not lily

 

 

 

Is that really all you <Lily> have to comment on so far? 

 

mindmeld

 

 

 

@turin   that number 1 u asked if i answered?  i answered Zander because i said i had a thought but i didnt answer that comment of hallys cause i thought it was aimed at zander

 

the frame idea

 i had sili v lily in mind  didnt even realise darthe had commented on her. i still think her being framed is possible cause they killed DARTHE. they couldnt know that sili would die and killing darthe and leaving sili alive would mean more pressure on lily

 

 

does that make sense?

 

 

im not liking lilys play at all but i dont think shes the SK  and as i said my frame idea largely went out the window when i realised it was Darthe. 

 

I do think it still unlikely she is mafia cause like i said  mafia didnt kill the person howling for her lynch and couldnt know hed die

 

 

 

The cavalry has arrived

 

slaps seph upside the back of the head

 

welcome back. 

 

Now get over to the Band and sign roll call then get back here and convince me why u shouldnt be lynched.

 

 

 

 

[v] Dice[/v]

 

That above post rings all kinds of wrong. You didn't want to lynch Lily when it was her slot but now that Seph joins (welcome Seph BTW) and has started to actually do the work people were looking for from that slot you are telling him to show why he shouldn't be lynched?

 

He is already on the way there IMO.

 

*inb4 you say you aren't voting him. it is your tone that is wrong here.

 

Out for a bit. Having a walk about Leeds.

 

what have i been saying about lily?? that i dont want to lynch her AT THIS TIME. I  even said in an earlier answer to Zander i think it was that if i had to id lynch her today    but i dont want too today

 

then theres the fact that people have been wanting to lynch lily so seph NEEDS to convince people why he shouldnt be lynched. including me.

 

 

 

Dice can you explain how you go from thinking Lily isn't mafia because you thought mafia killed Sili to 'set her up' to thinking Lily isn't mafia because mafia didn't kill Lily Sili?

 

Can you explain why you think an SK might not take the same approach (set someone up)?

 

 

ok  so we have all probably seen this in the past   mafia kill the loudest voice in the game trying to get someone NOT mafia lynched in order to frame that somebody with the added bonus of shutting up the loudest voice.

 

so thats what i thought happened   until i realised 2 things. A it wasnt the mafia kill. and B that the SK did not try to kill sili.

 

After all sili was loud and likely to get someone lynched  the sk WANTS bodies on the floor as long as its not the sks. taking out a loud person who is likely to get a lynch is more hinderance then help

 

so basically  lily is not the sk imo  she MIGHT be mafia but honestly that hasnt really been shown yet...she had so little thread presence that it would have basically been lynching an inactive

 

Lol, I used the wrong name (fixed in original quote).

 

I have no difficulty following you on the first part, in the second bolded blue I quoted you say Lily isn't mafia because mafia didn't kill Sili. Whereas you started off by saying that you thought Lily wasn't mafia because the mafia killed Sili as a frame job. This is two different interpretations of the night actions, yet you don't have a strong town read of Lily to go with it.

 

I can see both arguments independent of each other, but I struggle to see one person thinking both.

 

What's your read on Seph now?

 

 

im pretty sure Seph isnt the SK. Whether or not hes MAFIA   i dont know. im leaning town but carefully

[Turin Turambar]

[V] zander [/v]

 

Of the two I think he is more likely mafia.

 

im gonna be asleep soon so may not be able to be back before DL.

[Sooh]

Vote counts

 

Zander (4) - BFG, seph, Thane, Turin

Thane (2) - Shad, Hallia

 

Not voting: Everyone else.

 

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to start the Voting Phase.

 

Day 1 Ends on Sunday at 5pm (Arizona time)

 

 

 

ZANDER IS AT L-1!

[seph]

26 mins left, is anyone around??

[Shad_]

No lynch is garbage and I'm not going to stare at a clock for 30 minutes so [v]Zander[/v].

 

Not crazy about it. Maybe the fact he's been MIA today is a good sign. /shrug

[Shad_]

Ninja'd by the Sephiroth