[Standard] Chrono Trigger Mafia - Town wins Day 5!

[Hallia]

It seemed strange to me, why didn't you vote him instead?

[Andrej]

Hallia fwiw I don't think Verb is scum either.

[Hallia]

Town:

Yates - For the reasons Verb finds him suspect, I find him towny.  Helpful in a good way, engaged.

Zander - On par for his usual town self.  I caught him his one time as wolf.  I feel that his game is thrown off when he is, and I don't see it here.

Tina - I feel like she handled herself very well vs the Nolder thing.

AndreJ - General town vibe.  As I have said in my catch up, he is engaged in thread, and I can follow his thought process.

Turin - Not as high a town vibe, but he hasn't been as active as he has been.  Initial postings were reasonable.
Leelou - Initial vibe was town.  I know she's busy this weekend, when she is back I would like more.

 

Town to Null:

Lenlo - The willingness to actually go back and forth with me regarding the lists is something I don't know that he would do as wolf.

 

Unsure:

Verb - Call it a gut vibe, what have you.  I feel he could be deep wolf.

 

Null to Scummy

Thane - The way he came in pre-deadline came off as very sketchy to me.

Nolder - The Tina thing,  I can't shake off as him just not seeing four people or so saying the same thing about Tina.

[Lenlo]

Lol, you have Verb lower then me yet he's a deep wolf?! He's basically null, between towny-null and wolfy-null.

 

That makes no sense.

[Hallia]

I get it Len.  You think my reads and my lists are stupid. Anything else?

[Andrej]

I'm not sure what your trouble is there, Lenlo.

[Lenlo]

How is Verb a deep wolf of he's not even out of her null pile? That's my issue here. I don't get it.

[Andrej]

'Could be' as in potential. I don't really see the issue with it.

 

How does his position correlate with yours? I'm not sure why you brought up the fact he's placed lower than you.

[Lenlo]

Because generally deep wolf means, someone who you think is heavy town but you acknowledge could be fooling you. Not a null read.

 

I brought up position simply because she didn't say he was null, but she put him in null position wise. She didn't actually give a real read on him imo.

[Andrej]

Because generally deep wolf means, someone who you think is heavy town but you acknowledge could be fooling you. Not a null read.

 

I brought up position simply because she didn't say he was null, but she put him in null position wise. She didn't actually give a real read on him imo.

 

I see what you're saying.

[Hallia]

Maybe it's the wrong term then?  I thought it was someone who was generally being accepted town, that you had reservations on.

[Lenlo]

It's possible I have it wrong, but I've always assumed it to be based off your personal reads list, not thread consensus.

[Nolder]

 

 

 

Earlier when I asked Turin if he had any reads he said he had Tina as a town lean because "she was asking real questions" I didn't really probe at the time but after looking at her post again to fact check myself in case I was the one mistaken regarding Nolder's argument, I realized what Turin was talking about. The question actually is pretty sharp and it's something I'd like Nolder to answer.

 

The timing bugged me, as I've said. It also a little meta based because I don't think Tina is particularly comfortable playing as scum and I've caught her before in the past after awkward exchanges. It just weirded me out, I really can't explain it better.

This sounds like you agree with me. But you defended her.

 

You want to make up your mind and stop playing both sides of this situation?

 

 

Can you expand a bit on this.  Im looking for something and I want to hear you elaborate please.

 

Sure, it's pretty simple.

 

He said she would be a good wagon.

He never voted her.

 

That is playing both sides of the lynch. He's encouraging others to vote her by calling it a good wagon but he isn't putting his own neck on the line, presumably so he doesn't have to take responsibility for getting her lynched if it came to that.

[Nolder]

 

Tina it wasn't clear to me that that post was directed at me.

That's really all I can say about that. In the future you should probably just quote me or at least use my name in your post.

Anyway to be clear my vote on you was just letting loose on the first person that did anything I could think of an excuse to vote for, I don't have any real reason to think you're scummy currently.

As far as I'm concerned we're cool.

 

AJ on the other hand isn't making sense to me.

He both defended you and said you'd make a good wagon and now he's trying his best to discredit me.

I fully support your vote on him. Dude is acting slimey and needs to hang.

Thats a switch. Suddenly your good on Tina, even though we've been trying to tell you to read here posts for hours? Great.

 

I thought it was pretty obvious the reason was bogus.

I mean, don't get me wrong, could she be buddying? It is possible.

I would have stuck with it if nothing else presented itself.

 

That's how mafia games start you know?

I mean most people want to "joke vote" and I do sometimes too but usually that bores me.

I want to pretend to be serious because then it usually gets other people to ACTUALLY be serious which really kickstarts the game.

It's usually more fun that way.

[Andrej]

 

Changing facts to suit your confirmation bias. Quote me where I am telling others to vote her.

 

I never encouraged anyone to vote Tina. That was you, actually. On false information nonetheless.

 

I said it was something I could get behind. Me - singular. No, I never voted her and I have explained already that I was waiting on Verb to respond to me before I decided whether or not I wanted my vote to stick. I can't help that he wasn't around to do so and I can only vote one suspect at a time.

 

You need to pull your head out of whatever hole you've dug it in and start broadening your scope here, bro. I'm not scum.

[BFG]

Good morning

[Andrej]

Like seriously, who in this game thinks to themselves:

 

"AJ said he could vote Tina? Well I guess I should vote there too!"

 

Probably no one.

 

Your point sucks. I am not scum, get over it.

[Andrej]

Good morning

Good evening

[Nolder]

RIP Dice

[Andrej]

RIP Dice

Acquiescence?

[Nolder]

 

Changing facts to suit your confirmation bias. Quote me where I am telling others to vote her.

 

I never encouraged anyone to vote Tina. That was you, actually. On false information nonetheless.

 

I said it was something I could get behind. Me - singular. No, I never voted her and I have explained already that I was waiting on Verb to respond to me before I decided whether or not I wanted my vote to stick. I can't help that he wasn't around to do so and I can only vote one suspect at a time.

 

You need to pull your head out of whatever hole you've dug it in and start broadening your scope here, bro. I'm not scum.

 

 

Like seriously, who in this game thinks to themselves:

 

"AJ said he could vote Tina? Well I guess I should vote there too!"

 

Probably no one.

 

Your point sucks. I am not scum, get over it.

 

It's called nudging a train.

You call someone scummy, say they're worth voting, make a case on them, etc and then never vote the person yourself.

Your defense is that you didn't actually tell anyone to vote for her but that's not the problem.

The problem is that YOU never voted her.

[Turin Turambar]

Good morning.

 

Catching back up. Unforeseen distraction last night.

 

FYI, I'm gonna be afk for about 36-48 hours staring in around 3-4 hours from now. Weekend trip with my wife=no mafia.

 

Thoughts after reading.

[Andrej]

Where is my case on Tina?

[Andrej]

You're saying that I encouraged people to vote her. That's not factual is heavily sided with your personal beliefs. You are placing wrongful intent to my statements because your mind is already made up. You are not being objective.

 

You have already proven that you haven't read the thread as carefully as you probably should. I ask you to restart and look over it again and see where you stand at that point.

[Andrej]

My other suggestion would be to start formulating other reads. I seem to be your focus atm, so I want you to spend some time thinking about how you feel on other players. I have no idea where you stand currently.