[Standard] Chrono Trigger Mafia - Town wins Day 5!

[Lenlo]

Tina it wasn't clear to me that that post was directed at me.

That's really all I can say about that. In the future you should probably just quote me or at least use my name in your post.

Anyway to be clear my vote on you was just letting loose on the first person that did anything I could think of an excuse to vote for, I don't have any real reason to think you're scummy currently.

As far as I'm concerned we're cool.

 

AJ on the other hand isn't making sense to me.

He both defended you and said you'd make a good wagon and now he's trying his best to discredit me.

I fully support your vote on him. Dude is acting slimey and needs to hang.

Thats a switch. Suddenly your good on Tina, even though we've been trying to tell you to read here posts for hours? Great.

[Lenlo]

I like that Verbal back. I'm fine with Zander, he's been working on his post count lately which means he's simply not going to be as talkative as people expect. I'm fine with that.

 

Nolder bugged me with his sudden Z switch of focus from Tina to AJ. Didn't feel like there was alot of buildup, just boom. I'm on AJ now.

 

[V]Dice [/v]

 

Dice is my go to atm.

[Lenlo]

Do AJ, I can't remember what he was like before, but based on this game the biggest problem I would have with him is his semantics argument with Noldrr about protecting tina/disproving Nolders case.

[Yates]

Spidey is blocked at work now.

[Yates]

Can someone with more knowledge of Nolder and AJ answer me this, do either Scum!AJ and Scum!Nolder have a tendency to bus?

Either will bus when it suits them.

[Verbal32]

 

Spidey is blocked at work now.

 

 

<3 u

[Verbal32]

 

Can someone with more knowledge of Nolder and AJ answer me this, do either Scum!AJ and Scum!Nolder have a tendency to bus?

Either will bus when it suits them.

 

 

...said almost every reasonable mafia player ever.

[Andrej]

Do AJ, I can't remember what he was like before, but based on this game the biggest problem I would have with him is his semantics argument with Noldrr about protecting tina/disproving Nolders case.

Meh.

 

Like I said, any and all defense was through extension to making Nolder realize the reason for doubling down was invalid. If that means I was defending Tina in that instance, fine.

 

It's not really a semantics thing.

[Andrej]

 

Then stop pussy footing and give one.

 

I think by now you should have one, one way or another.

Why should I have one by now? You havent been normal Boss Town!AJ self atp.

 

I dont know if that necessarily make you scum or not yet as you havent played here in awhile.

 

But I will do as you ask

 

AJ- ???

 

 

But tbh I have some concerns and reservations. I dont think youve been overly Towny or overly Scummy. AJ are you 3rd party perhaps?

Ill have a reads list after i get a chance to go back over things.

Because I have been all over this game.

 

You're still dancing around it imo, and no, I'm not 3rd party.

[Yates]

Ok so whats your actual read on AJ?

Null. Need more info. If I'm being honest? I'd probably lynch him then cry because he flips cop.

[Zander?]

 

 

Then stop pussy footing and give one.

 

I think by now you should have one, one way or another.

Why should I have one by now? You havent been normal Boss Town!AJ self atp.

 

I dont know if that necessarily make you scum or not yet as you havent played here in awhile.

 

But I will do as you ask

 

AJ- ???

 

 

But tbh I have some concerns and reservations. I dont think youve been overly Towny or overly Scummy. AJ are you 3rd party perhaps?

Ill have a reads list after i get a chance to go back over things.

Because I have been all over this game.

 

You're still dancing around it imo, and no, I'm not 3rd party.

 

 

 

How come your only calling me out on it?  Not everyone has you read yet?

[Zander?]

 

 

Can someone with more knowledge of Nolder and AJ answer me this, do either Scum!AJ and Scum!Nolder have a tendency to bus?

Either will bus when it suits them.

 

 

...said almost every reasonable mafia player ever.

 

 

Well this clears up nothing but it did make me lololololol

 

 

Ok so whats your actual read on AJ?

Null. Need more info. If I'm being honest? I'd probably lynch him then cry because he flips cop.

 

 

JFC Yates you should have a read on AJ by now.  Or maybe were both total noobs?

[Yates]

I think in Yates's heart of hearts he knows I'm town.

You know I love you and you know I want you to be Ned. But I know you could also be Jefe in Amigo clothing. This is my fear.

 

He's just bothered because I've been playing somewhat with kiddy gloves because I didn't want to be a pushy a-hole within the first 24 hours of the game.

This is correct.

[Andrej]

Because I want it pointed out, that's why.

 

I understand where Yates is coming from, and I think his evaluation is genuine.

 

Yours is harder to tell. You've interacted with me plenty and I think I have answered all of your questions to a large extent, so having me as ??? bothers me when I'm the lead wagon.

[Yates]

JFC Yates you should have a read on AJ by now.  Or maybe were both total noobs?

Read the post above this. It's not like AJ is an easy read right now.

[Yates]

Crap. I lost my place in my catch up.

[Yates]

 

 

Can someone with more knowledge of Nolder and AJ answer me this, do either Scum!AJ and Scum!Nolder have a tendency to bus?

Either will bus when it suits them.

 

 

...said almost every reasonable mafia player ever.

 

Nah. There are people DEAD SET against busing until there is no alternative. Reading for context; I *think* that's what Zander was getting at. Otherwise, there's no point to the question.

[Zander?]

Because I want it pointed out, that's why.

 

I understand where Yates is coming from, and I think his evaluation is genuine.

 

Yours is harder to tell. You've interacted with me plenty and I think I have answered all of your questions to a large extent, so having me as ??? bothers me when I'm the lead wagon.

 

???  was a joke as I mentioned and explained where this came from earlier.

 

 

JFC Yates you should have a read on AJ by now.  Or maybe were both total noobs?

Read the post above this. It's not like AJ is an easy read right now.

 

 

What do you think of him questioning me for not having a solid read on him but he's fine with you doing the same?

[Yates]

... based on this game the biggest problem I would have with him is his semantics argument with Noldrr about protecting tina/disproving Nolders case.

To be fair; that isn't an argument of "semantics" so much as "intent." I've been involved in those before. And they truly ARE important to resolve because intent is crucial in this game.

[Turin Turambar]

 

On reread I like his game even less than I did before. I think he latched onto the joke thing with Z as his "something" to go on about but he knows it isn't really valid so isn't giving it his all. More like the soft back and forth with Tina. If both hadn't happened this same game day I might not be so troubled.

 

vote: Dice

I have to think about this post. There is a LOT of spin in this narrative. I'd like to see Dice respond before giving my thoughts.

 

Looking forward to your opinion. 

 

Turin could be scum after that case, but Turin does narrative spin regardless. He's like Despot in that regard, as much as he'll hate that comparison.

I hate that comparision

 

I don't see my casing as narrative spin. I often see things quite different than many and I find to have any chance of having people actually see what I see I have to explain why I feel the way I do about the way something happened. This is compounded because I frequently have little time to stay current and post as much in real time as many do. Secondly I mostly use my phone so when I have access to my computer and some time available I will try to make my case as well as I can. I guess sometimes that can look spinny so maybe. I guess your POV will in part determine your perception.

 

 

He's like Despot in that regard, as much as he'll hate that comparison.

I get what you are saying. I wasn't aware that Turin did that. I wonder if Turin agrees that he is a narrative player??

 

See above. The reason for that Yates I think is that you have seen me at my least available and only on phone so I am just trying to get a word in here or there. I might not even have time to make any sort of case at all.

 

Nolder is town but just derping hard and making up false tells to compensate for his lack of reading.

 

Yates is probably town.

 

Verb is probably town just disappointingly weak town. Like a limp noodle ;-)

 

Tina looks a little better but she's one I would need to keep the heat on because she'll ghost out as scum.

 

Zander seems to be slowly trying to gear up into voting me, but wants to show the work first. I don't like this.

 

Hallia is a coin toss. She looks scummy imo but I can never tell.

 

Thane looks okay but he's fooled me early on before.

 

Lenlo is another I would push for continual content, he what he gave so far was decent.

 

Leelou hasn't said much because busy but she seemed okay.

 

Dice I admittedly don't want to see as scum. However the case building against him does have merit and the more people chime in the more I am forced to think I am just wrong.

 

Turin is remarkably more diplomatic with me than how I remember him in the past, but maybe he's just not being an a-hole which I can appreciate. Content seems okay, would need to see some flips on those he's cased before I would lock him in as town.

I highlighted the three people you said you were willing to vote:

Z in effect because you think he is "building up to a vote". Is that different from where you are with Dice? 

Hallia although you don't seem to be giving a real reason.

Dice who you are being swayed on. 

 

I am actively trying to be more diplomatic during all these games because 1.) I am generally more happy so I find I just don't need the  junk. 2.) I was recently put thru the wringer on a game and I decided that I didn't want to be on the delivering end of that kind of stuff. 

 

Could go Dice/Hallia

 

Maybe Zander atp

My biggest issue with you right now is that you picked both of the people that I looked hard at as your wtl but they don't feel like where your heart is. 

 

^ oh God I sounded like Wombat there.......

serious RL lol'd.  

 

 

Can someone with more knowledge of Nolder and AJ answer me this, do either Scum!AJ and Scum!Nolder have a tendency to bus?

Either will bus when it suits them.

 

My take is that AJ in particular would rather try to win with all his team if he thinks it is at all possible. Dice would be more pragmatic of the two.

 

My 2 pence.

[Yates]

What do you think of him questioning me for not having a solid read on him but he's fine with you doing the same?

I think he has a lot more history with me than he does with you. Completely null.

 

 

Let me put what you are asking me into perspective. Would you [did you] get on my case if I told you that you are playing this game differently from what I expect so I can't clear you as Town yet? No. Why not? Because you know that you ARE playing differently from what you know I would expect so it doesn't bother you as Town/isn't something you can really challenge if you are minority Town. But if AJ made a similar observation you might probe him because wtf does he know? He doesn't have the same meta relationship with you as I have.

 

[Yates]

 

JFC Yates you should have a read on AJ by now.  Or maybe were both total noobs?

Read the post above this. It's not like AJ is an easy read right now.

 

Sorry. Just got the context. Didn't realize this was a joke. lololololololololololol

[Hallia]

Doing a reread before commenting now that good and solid gameplay is going on.  Up through page 6.

 

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Yates – I don’t know that I would see mafia Yates joking about the mason thing

 

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I don’t see Tina/Dice interacting this way if they are both wolves.

 

 

 

 

hi Tina hugs  hows u?

 

 

Do i have to lynch you this game?

 

*hugs*

 

I´m fine. I´m having a week off. Wonderful. You?

 

It depends on your alignment. If you are town you should not lynch me. 

 

 

 

im good.

 

Right so no lynching tina then :D  lets smash the wolves together then hun

 

 

P5: I like Dice’s reads here, and as it stood, agreed with them.

current spot reads

 

Leelou Town 

 

Aj  probably town

[Yates]

Looking forward to your opinion.

Well, I'd rather see Dice comment on it first.

 

Spoiler alert?

It's - not good.

 

[Leelou]

On my phone, but question for AJ.

 

What case do you like being built on Dice? A lot of your posts feel like you are more trying to conform. Especially after you said the case Turin made on Dice could have Turin as scummy for spinning.