[Basic]: Friends Mafia

[Shad_]

[unvote][v]Lily[/v]

 

I'll be in and out, will try to be on at deadline. I could go Thane atp. Eldrick obviously isn't happening and if I'm the only person who's still pretty concerned with him there's a decent chance I'm wrong.

[Zander?]

Good morning.

 

Any chance we can get the Thane / Lily wagons I asked for yesterday? 

 

Z, have you posted a complete reads list with reasons? If no, would you please?

 

Almost done my reread.  Will have one shortly.

 

 

@Sooh: observing and not engaging? nice... I feel that I've been more active this D1 than last game, where I didn't need to solve a single thing. There was the weekend, but I'm hardly ever on during the weekends. By that reasoning, Tab and Hallia are valid targets too. Just saying. Do you have an updated reads list somewhere? 

 

here's more: I think it was Eldrick wondering why i have no nulls. Small game, content to work with (for as far as D1 goes) and mainly gut feeling. There's too much around by the players to have them null at this point. Not engaging? Could be a tell, really. At least i try to answer and comment, where as other players don't bother to do so. If you miss questions directed at you, you're not reading the game, but skimming, which is bad. 

 

Please explain you Sooh comment cause I disagree with it.

 

And I dont like how "solid" you reads are.  Youve mentioned numerous times in other games you have a hard time with D1 reads.

 

i'll go ahead and do this:

 

[v] Taborline [/v]

 

I can use Sooh's reasoning too. Observing and not engaging. There's WAY too less content there. More than half her posts feel like agreeing with other people, and there's no obvious will to actually solve the game here. 

 

Werent you in NBC?  Like ive mentioned unless she improved tenfold on her scum game this aint it imo.

 

 

I'd ask other players to ISO all her 16 posts and tell me I'm wrong, or vote with me.

 

I think youre wrong and quite possibly scum.

[Sooh]

 

Good morning.

 

Any chance we can get the Thane / Lily wagons I asked for yesterday? 

 

Z, have you posted a complete reads list with reasons? If no, would you please?

 

Almost done my reread.  Will have one shortly.

 

 

@Sooh: observing and not engaging? nice... I feel that I've been more active this D1 than last game, where I didn't need to solve a single thing. There was the weekend, but I'm hardly ever on during the weekends. By that reasoning, Tab and Hallia are valid targets too. Just saying. Do you have an updated reads list somewhere? 

 

here's more: I think it was Eldrick wondering why i have no nulls. Small game, content to work with (for as far as D1 goes) and mainly gut feeling. There's too much around by the players to have them null at this point. Not engaging? Could be a tell, really. At least i try to answer and comment, where as other players don't bother to do so. If you miss questions directed at you, you're not reading the game, but skimming, which is bad. 

 

Please explain you Sooh comment cause I disagree with it.

 

And I dont like how "solid" you reads are.  Youve mentioned numerous times in other games you have a hard time with D1 reads.

 

i'll go ahead and do this:

 

[v] Taborline [/v]

 

I can use Sooh's reasoning too. Observing and not engaging. There's WAY too less content there. More than half her posts feel like agreeing with other people, and there's no obvious will to actually solve the game here. 

 

Werent you in NBC?  Like ive mentioned unless she improved tenfold on her scum game this aint it imo.

 

 

I'd ask other players to ISO all her 16 posts and tell me I'm wrong, or vote with me.

 

I think youre wrong and quite possibly scum.

 

You realize he was talking about the way I was describing him, right?

[Sooh]

And by "he" I mean Thane.

[LilyElizabeth]

Yes. I can fix that. 

 

 

Unvote

Vote Thane

 

 

Part self-preservation, part having been convinced by everyone else's thoughts against him. 

[Turin Turambar]

I'm leaning more scum again. Enjoy what you make of that.

You willing to vote him?

[LilyElizabeth]

Oops! I didn't realize there were posts on this page. So now we have a tie again. 

[Turin Turambar]

Lol ninja vote.

[Taborline]

 

Shad - I am liking the way you're playing, being your usual probing self. You feel good.

Turin - Same, I feel you're actively pushing people and trying to get the game moving/solve.

 

Eldrick - I am inclined to be swayed by your appeal to emotions. I'd put you on the townier side of null now.

Zander - no clue.

Sooh - true null, I need to ISO your posts still.

 

Lily - The Eld switch did ping me, but I need to ISO you to see if there's anything more

Hallia - I could possibly see you as being scum this game for your not being present and voting quickly for the first thing that stands out (Lily's switch)

Thane - I am not feeling convinced by your arguments/I feel like you are going with the flow more than solving

 

So Tab iyo, what scum combo fits best with you and why?

 

 

 

WTL atp

 

Turin

 

Lily

 

Zander....you may be wrong on Turin

 

Zander your prolly right on Lily

 

Good talk buddy!!!

 

 

I could definitely see a Thane/Lily combination. I did not like that post of Lily's about Eld trying a "nothing to see here..." post (link) as it didn't feel like a useful comment/I disagreed with her. Going for Eld is an easy target at this point in the game. She says she's willing to vote him and eventually does. Then Eld has AtE and she seems quite easily swayed, "it worked on me", and unvotes. Next target is Hallia, another easy one and one that's likewise on Thane's list. At this point she has a scum lean on Thane, but goes for Hally (makes sense if they're on a team). She rather quickly comes back and switches her view on Thane, now calling him towny. If they are a team, she might be flip flopping on purpose to create confusion.

[Sooh]

Still no clue on me or Zander, Taborline? I don't remember if you talked any more about us.

[Thane Vakarian]

The only way Lily and I are on one team would be both of us being town.... up to you all to decide the likeliness of that.

[Zander?]

Bingo. What I thought happened did happen.

 

Poorly worded is more like it. Turins' push on me sorta feels like Zander pushing lynches in his previous games (no offense, Zan) and they ended up lynching town. If Turin pushes successfully, you'll miss a VT next day. Me flipping town wouldn't automatically make him wolf, but it'd look... let's put it mildly... not too great.

not a big fan of both claims that are already on the table to be honest. Unnecessary to do so early in the game.

 

Also townies that are saying things like: 'i'm alright with you lynching me'... i mean, ??? It's not really a towntell if you say it. Not for me. Sounds a bit too easy and doesn't really push anybody into thinking further on the subject.

Thane Lily scum team?

 

 

Im not disagree at all cause I feel its quite possible.  But can you explain how this connects them?

 

Or am I missing something else here altogether?

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was, I blame you for the initial part with your distracting me with TANKS; apologies for not coming back, my sis came over and we played Until Dawn (Terrifying btw)

 

I will join Eld and 

 

Vote: Lily

 

For the moment this is where I am happy.

 

Like Ive mentioned this is not uncommon for Hallia.  She does list a reason for voting later in this post.

 

I'm glad someone does. Thank you hally. You're not trying to pocket me, are you?

 

I actually like this comment from Eld fwiw.

 

 

 

 

I'm somewhere between unvoting Eldrick for that ATE and keeping my vote there for that comment about not initially wanting to vote Lily because it would look bad.

 

I'll have to look at the rest of you all tomorrow and see who else is scummy.

 

Town!Sooh is less concerned with hows shes perceived by others imo. Ive been feeling you were Town thus far but this lowers you a bit for me

 

 

 

Lily, you were awfully quick to jump off of Eld

 

 

AtE - Appeal to Emotion

 

Here's Hallia's reason.  Its something I noted as well.

 

But Hallia, Im not seeing the involvement level from you like in GnD so if you are Town I need you to step it up and explain things better if you dont mind my dear.  Im not gonna push a lynch on you today but you'll not be getting a D2 pass from me with this.

 

What are you talking about? How is this me being worried about how my actions look? I was saying I was slightly swayed by the AtE, but that other things made me keep my vote there until I was done reading the thread again. 

 

 

 

claiming PR on D1 would be silly, no?

 

I hate you.

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

Wait, I wasn't here when asked, just got on but I'm refusing to give a reason? Does not compute. At work on mobile,so I can't do much quoting, but I can respond in the now.

 

I am voting Lily for her gameplay and the quickness to unvote Eld. It's mainly gut, but she seems scummy to me.

I'll go back and quote it, but my unvoting Eld came after your vote. Wanna try again?

 

Hally's agreeing with me felt like it could be pocketing (I said as much at the time). Then she voted the person that was already gaining suspicion, without a reason. When asked for why she voted Lily, her only response has been Lily's unvote. She has mentioned it twice, but it can't be a valid reason as it happened after she voted.

 

[unvote]

[v]Hally[/v]

She did list another reason for it. Does this change how you feel about it?

 

Eldrick what are your thoughts on Lily? If you have her scum does this change your view on Hally?

I'm already torn on lily. I'm questioning my view on hally. I feel that they aren't on a team togehter. One flipping scum pretty much clears the other imo.

[Thane Vakarian]

No Zan, you me bro (search your feelings, you know it be true)

[Taborline]

Still no clue on me or Zander, Taborline? I don't remember if you talked any more about us.

 

I feel very good about you, I read through your posts this morning. You are logical and you ask good and pointed questions.

 

I am leaning good on Zander because he doesn't feel as oddly aggressive as he did the last times I saw him as scum, and I also agree with a lot of his posts. But he has fooled me almost every time before.

[Zander?]

 

I'm not that sloppy as scum. That's insulting. lol

 

 

Wasnt my intention to do so, just calling it like I see it.

 

 

 

Checking in before bed. Don't see anything I need to comment on. I agree that Zander's case on me looks bad. It's just day one confusion, but a case can be made out of anything. 

 

WHo do you agree with Lily?

 

Zander, silly. You said it made me look bad, didn't you?

 

 

I didnt realize you were agreeing with me on how my case made you look bad...lol.

 

 

 

 

 

I was, I blame you for the initial part with your distracting me with TANKS; apologies for not coming back, my sis came over and we played Until Dawn (Terrifying btw)

 

I will join Eld and 

 

Vote: Lily

 

For the moment this is where I am happy.

 

Like Ive mentioned this is not uncommon for Hallia.  She does list a reason for voting later in this post.

 

I'm glad someone does. Thank you hally. You're not trying to pocket me, are you?

 

I actually like this comment from Eld fwiw.

 

 

I'm somewhere between unvoting Eldrick for that ATE and keeping my vote there for that comment about not initially wanting to vote Lily because it would look bad.

 

I'll have to look at the rest of you all tomorrow and see who else is scummy.

 

Town!Sooh is less concerned with hows shes perceived by others imo. Ive been feeling you were Town thus far but this lowers you a bit for me

 

Lily, you were awfully quick to jump off of Eld

 

 

AtE - Appeal to Emotion

 

Here's Hallia's reason.  Its something I noted as well.

 

But Hallia, Im not seeing the involvement level from you like in GnD so if you are Town I need you to step it up and explain things better if you dont mind my dear.  Im not gonna push a lynch on you today but you'll not be getting a D2 pass from me with this.

 

 

But my unvote came after her vote, so that can't be her initial reason, Zan. Are you her teammate trying to clear her? Or just not paying attention?

 

 

Neither

 

 

 

Hallia has 8 posts, which is more than I remember her having. She hasn't done much this game except vote me with no reason. I want an explanation for the vote and more content from her. 

 

 

Vote Hallia

 

 

So she votes you for little to no reasoning iyo then you vote her for voting you?

 

Am I following this progression correctly atp?

 

 

Yes. I voted her for voting me with no good reason and for not answering when questioned about it. She still hasn't answered to my satisfaction.

 

 

She said Gameplay so whether you like the reason or not, she still gave one.

[Taborline]

The only way Lily and I are on one team would be both of us being town.... up to you all to decide the likeliness of that.

 

Do you have anything more on me than a gut feeling? Do you have anything more than a gut feeling on anyone else?

[Sooh]

 

 

 

I'm somewhere between unvoting Eldrick for that ATE and keeping my vote there for that comment about not initially wanting to vote Lily because it would look bad.

 

I'll have to look at the rest of you all tomorrow and see who else is scummy.

 

Town!Sooh is less concerned with hows shes perceived by others imo. Ive been feeling you were Town thus far but this lowers you a bit for me

What are you talking about? How is this me being worried about how my actions look? I was saying I was slightly swayed by the AtE, but that other things made me keep my vote there until I was done reading the thread again. 

 

 

I was talking about Eldrick not wanting to vote Lily like he stated here:

 

You're on my wtl too, because of the comment I pointed out. Willing to go there too, but voting you after unvoting Sooh would have looked omgus, and that's not my intent.

 

He commented on not wanting to vote Lily because it would look bad. That comment was my reason for not unvoting him. 

[Shad_]

Thane Lily scum team?

 

Im not disagree at all cause I feel its quite possible.  But can you explain how this connects them?

 

Or am I missing something else here altogether?

 

Wasn't a connection, just where my head's at at this point.

[Shad_]

broken quotes are broken

[LilyElizabeth]

 

 

I'm not that sloppy as scum. That's insulting. lol

 

 

Wasnt my intention to do so, just calling it like I see it.

 

 

 

Checking in before bed. Don't see anything I need to comment on. I agree that Zander's case on me looks bad. It's just day one confusion, but a case can be made out of anything. 

 

WHo do you agree with Lily?

 

Zander, silly. You said it made me look bad, didn't you?

 

 

I didnt realize you were agreeing with me on how my case made you look bad...lol.

 

 

 

 

 

I was, I blame you for the initial part with your distracting me with TANKS; apologies for not coming back, my sis came over and we played Until Dawn (Terrifying btw)

 

I will join Eld and 

 

Vote: Lily

 

For the moment this is where I am happy.

 

Like Ive mentioned this is not uncommon for Hallia.  She does list a reason for voting later in this post.

 

I'm glad someone does. Thank you hally. You're not trying to pocket me, are you?

 

I actually like this comment from Eld fwiw.

 

 

I'm somewhere between unvoting Eldrick for that ATE and keeping my vote there for that comment about not initially wanting to vote Lily because it would look bad.

 

I'll have to look at the rest of you all tomorrow and see who else is scummy.

 

Town!Sooh is less concerned with hows shes perceived by others imo. Ive been feeling you were Town thus far but this lowers you a bit for me

 

Lily, you were awfully quick to jump off of Eld

 

 

AtE - Appeal to Emotion

 

Here's Hallia's reason.  Its something I noted as well.

 

But Hallia, Im not seeing the involvement level from you like in GnD so if you are Town I need you to step it up and explain things better if you dont mind my dear.  Im not gonna push a lynch on you today but you'll not be getting a D2 pass from me with this.

 

 

But my unvote came after her vote, so that can't be her initial reason, Zan. Are you her teammate trying to clear her? Or just not paying attention?

 

 

Neither

 

 

 

Hallia has 8 posts, which is more than I remember her having. She hasn't done much this game except vote me with no reason. I want an explanation for the vote and more content from her. 

 

 

Vote Hallia

 

 

So she votes you for little to no reasoning iyo then you vote her for voting you?

 

Am I following this progression correctly atp?

 

 

Yes. I voted her for voting me with no good reason and for not answering when questioned about it. She still hasn't answered to my satisfaction.

 

 

She said Gameplay so whether you like the reason or not, she still gave one.

 

 

Maybe, but when asked what about my gameplay she didn't like, she has not addressed it at all. That's not townie behavior to ignore a question directed at you. 

[Thane Vakarian]

 

The only way Lily and I are on one team would be both of us being town.... up to you all to decide the likeliness of that.

 

Do you have anything more on me than a gut feeling? Do you have anything more than a gut feeling on anyone else?

 

read my last reads list and answer that yourself. If reasons are there, you'll see them

[Sooh]

 

Still no clue on me or Zander, Taborline? I don't remember if you talked any more about us.

 

I feel very good about you, I read through your posts this morning. You are logical and you ask good and pointed questions.

 

I am leaning good on Zander because he doesn't feel as oddly aggressive as he did the last times I saw him as scum, and I also agree with a lot of his posts. But he has fooled me almost every time before.

 

I agree with you on Zander. He's an oddball, but I tend to think that he's town this time around.

[Turin Turambar]

Tina, can we get a vc?

 

~2.5 hours to DL?

[Turin Turambar]

 

 

The only way Lily and I are on one team would be both of us being town.... up to you all to decide the likeliness of that.

Do you have anything more on me than a gut feeling? Do you have anything more than a gut feeling on anyone else?

read my last reads list and answer that yourself. If reasons are there, you'll see them

have a beverage and chill a bit.