[Basic] Supernatural Mafia ~ Game Over ~ Town Wins!!!

[Turin Turambar]

I don't think my opinion changes if Turin flips town. I was driving that lynch hardcore. I'm confident that most of them just sat back and enjoyed the ride.

since I'm town why aren't you looking harder at the people off the train? Are you willing to vote Eldrick today?

[alannalynn]

....I wanna lynch everyone?

[Zander?]

....I wanna lynch everyone?

 

Does that include even me Turrinlynn????

[bgrishinko]

Yeah, here it is. From last night. He even bolded stuff for you. This is all Turin 1.0 opinions. Turin 2.0 seems to have doubled down on the opinions to me. We know Turin 1 was town so we can't fault these reads as deceptive. I'll give you the fact that his final final reading didn't have Thane as a top suspect but I don't see a lie in what Turin 2.0 is saying. I do see glossing, taunting and misrepping coming from Z+Laine+Nyn though which isn't real helpful.

 

So the question here in my mind: Does Turin 2.0 ever contradict Turin 1? I don't see it. Just looks like a reordered list to me.

 

 

 

Current wtl:

Nolder
Alanna
Thane
Eldrick
maybe Z

I think Nol and Alanna have some w/w equity based primarily on Nol.

I disliked the interaction between Eldrick and Thane early.

I don't like Z soft character claiming for no good reason in a game that the MOD has said mafia have fake claims. In this sort of case I would expect one of the fakes yo be a major character otherwise what is the point?

1. Turin: Town by PM
2. Zander-mafia (soft claimed one of the brothers) Soft claiming is bad to me. most likely mafia driven in this case. Has felt like posts edgy like he is chafing at not being allowed to use his smo of posting his way to town read. I don't think the early post was a joke. I don't like his responses to my calling him on his soft claim.
3. Sooh-null to town: This is in part due to my thoughts on Z/Laine.
4. Nolder-null to mafia. I'm going back and forth about who is more likely mafia. Nolder may just be being weird here. I think I'm going to let him off today.
5. Laine-mafia. See thoughts in above post.
6. Nyn- null to town. Not too much content. understandable due to RL. (I hope your dog is getting better) Nothing really pinging at this time.
7. Pral- null to mafia. Not much content but I don't like the one real post where he called out 5 players and said there must be one baddie in there. looks like trying to be useful while not really being useful.
8. Eldrick- mafia lean. Early Thane thing not good to me. some other things that I can't recall all of right now.
9. Lily- null. Lily being maleable is kind of how I remember her. Add in some RL distraction and I don't have any real read on her at this time.
10. Thane- mafia. I see all sorts of interaction between him and others I am suspicious of. Z and Laine have him as too high on their lists IMO. Eldrick may have spewed him maf. Plus his reaction to Eldrick and then my vote on him feels a bit of the same "don't engage and hope it goes away" that mafia will use on early votes. My only real concern is that it may be a case of mafia leaving him for a later mislynch.

11. BGrishinko- null to town. Not much to see here so far. Call it a gut read.
12. BFG- Town. Like her stances. Like her posts.

Obviously I have too many mafia/leans. my difficulty is that I am seeing two distinct possibilities. Z/Laine is something weird to me. Z mostly for tone. His posts feel snippy. Laine for her determination to not allow herself to read Z as mafia despite the things that she says regarding his early "joke". Both of them having Thane too high makes me curious there as well. The other has been Eldrick along with Pral and Nolder?/Thane?. I noted that Eldrick said something to the effect that he wants to see Pral in action. Then that he wants to give him more time. There is no real reasoning there to justify the position tho.

Unvote

Votre: Zander


willing to vote Alanna, Thane, Eldrick, Nolder, Pral in that order

I don't know what I have done to take away your enjoyment of this game but I am sorry for whatever it may have been.

I guess my requests will be denied and you insist on lynching me so I will give you at present my want to lynch list And I will go to enjoy the rest of my evening.

Alanna: I think I have covered this ad nauseam but here it is again- begging to be town read. Attempts to just dismiss without refuting any claims against her.Voted Nol for pressure. Not liking the interaction with Z. All of today's posts feel like lolcatting or AtE. I'm all the scenarios in my head Alanna is mafia every time.

Lily: this is a change. There were warning signs of mafia!Lily D1. The immediate backing off of every case. The questions about how to find mafia. It reminded.me of the one time we were on a mafia team together. BG's wheel of time book game. I think BG ran it anyway. The unneeded vote to L-1 made Nol lynch.inevitable(cwidt?)

Nyn: she drove the Nol lynch and her justification is that he is a bad selfish player. Now I'm gonna be treated badly too. Hopefully people will see the truth upon my death.

Z: I am really starting to think he is just off the raild and pocketed by Alanna but I could be wrong. Go back and look for all of Turins posts on him.

Eldrick: going with the flow. Look at his postings today.

Lynch from this list now and profit. Probably not gonna happen but at Least look at it after I'm dead.

Good night and good luck. If I'm still alive in the morning maybe I will look at the thread.

Explain to me why Pral and Thane aren't in your WTL anymore. Are you town reading them?
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I said they still are in my wtl, which WAS your question. Don't misrep. That's scummy. I am not town reading them. I am juggling who I think are the worst of all of you. It does keep changing as I go thru the combos and what everyone has done.

Did you answer the questions I had about what my town/mafia flip will do to your view if the game?

 

[Nynaeve]

 

I don't think my opinion changes if Turin flips town. I was driving that lynch hardcore. I'm confident that most of them just sat back and enjoyed the ride.

since I'm town why aren't you looking harder at the people off the train? Are you willing to vote Eldrick today?

 

 

I'm afraid my lynch order isn't as fluid as yours. I haven't decided yet if Eldrick is scum or being used as a scapegoat so I'm reluctant to lynch him atm. But he is in my WTL for sure. 

 

Also not sure what you want exactly. I've voiced my thoughts plenty on both players that were on the train and off it. There's so much train analysis you can do here. My take on it is that scum could have comfortably stayed off Nolder's train if they wanted to. Whether they did or not? Who knows. It's not something I can really build on. All I can do is make an educated guess, which I did.

[Nynaeve]

....I wanna lynch everyone?

 

Don't start

[alannalynn]

 

....I wanna lynch everyone?

Does that include even me Turrinlynn????

Lol of course not, silly. Just everyone ELSE

[Nynaeve]

. I do see glossing, taunting and misrepping coming from Z+Laine+Nyn though which isn't real helpful.

 

Excuse you?!?

 

Please show me where I'm misrepping Truin. As far as taunting goes? You gonna say dumb things? I'm gonna make fun of you. Deal with it.

[alannalynn]

I actually don't really wanna lynch Eldrick or lily or nyn right now. I COULD, but I don't feel that's the best course of action. Also pral, kinda null but not scummy. BG and BFG are both iffy. The others can be burned with fire.

[Nynaeve]

I can't conceive how you think it's OKAY to have everyone short of BFG in his WTL. He literally moved to Thane for NO REASON but to promote a competing train to his OWN TRAIN.

 

I mean.... seriously. WTF BG?

[Nynaeve]

I actually don't really wanna lynch Eldrick or lily or nyn right now. I COULD, but I don't feel that's the best course of action. Also pral, kinda null but not scummy. BG and BFG are both iffy. The others can be burned with fire.

 

I love you too :P

[bgrishinko]

 

Huh... I could of sworn I remember Thane being on Turin's list. I thought he even replied to you about this before? Time to search.

 

Nope. Turin was on his WTL and then read list as scum in the Turin 1.0 slot. When he was reanimated as Turin 2.0 he said to lynch me, Zander, Laine, Lily and Eldrick. Not sure if it was in order or not, but that was his list.

 

 

Touche. When re-reading that post from yesterday I assumed the quote was from the night before Turin 1.0 was killed from the quote if I'm dead in the morning yadda yadda. I see your point here about Thane not being on the list now. 

[Turin Turambar]

 

The order of lynch preference is fluid. At times it has been Alanna, you, Nyn, Thane, Lily, Eldrick. I think I have given reasons for each of them.

So should we be expecting you to be voting whoever has the most votes that isn't you? Good to know. Top notch scumhunting, buddy.

You apparently are not listening or just scum with your team drowning out what I'm saying with your hyperbole.

 

I am the ONLY person I know is town. I will not be self voting like Nolder did. If it is between anyone and myself the other person is getting.my vote.

 

I asked about the reason Turin 1.0 died is because I think there may not be a doc in this game. I have no knowledge about how that could be but it is a hunch I have.

[bgrishinko]

I actually don't really wanna lynch Eldrick or lily or nyn right now. I COULD, but I don't feel that's the best course of action. Also pral, kinda null but not scummy. BG and BFG are both iffy. The others can be burned with fire.

 

So you okay with Thane lynch then?

[Nynaeve]

"Hey guys. If we wanna win this game we need to lynch Nyn, Laine, Zander, Lily and Eldrick. FOLLOW ME TO VICTORY"

 

"*votes Thane"

 

"But... Thane wasn't on your list???"

 

"Oh. Well, everyone is kinda on my lynch list...... so yeah... neener neener neener!"

 

"What? I am helping town by supporting my competing train. LDO."

[Turin Turambar]

@Zander (and anyone else who wants to weigh in). If Turin flips scum, how would that affect your read on Thane? I'm conflicted on whether this is a ditch attempt to distance or if Turin is banking on a townie competing train. Unsure.

what about when I flip town. You gonna try to.use that to go at Thane or as a way to clear him?

[Nynaeve]

I seriously can't stop laughing at how ridiculous this game feels right now. I can't even xD

[Nynaeve]

 

@Zander (and anyone else who wants to weigh in). If Turin flips scum, how would that affect your read on Thane? I'm conflicted on whether this is a ditch attempt to distance or if Turin is banking on a townie competing train. Unsure.

what about when I flip town. You gonna try to.use that to go at Thane or as a way to clear him?

 

 

I'll jump off that bridge when I get to it. Thanks for your input!

[Zander?]

Only thing on todays Lunch menu is deep fried Turin.

 

Tomorrow we will evaluate things as necessary.

[Zander?]

 

 

....I wanna lynch everyone?

Does that include even me Turrinlynn????

Lol of course not, silly. Just everyone ELSE

 

 

 

<3 <3 <3

[Nynaeve]

I asked about the reason Turin 1.0 died is because I think there may not be a doc in this game. I have no knowledge about how that could be but it is a hunch I have.

 

O_o

[LilyElizabeth]

Oh irt to BG. There is most of the game I would prefer to lynch before him. Because his statements are all pretty much null and I could point to at least one thing I find bad from everyone else except maybe BFG.

 

Sorry, stupid cold is back. I will be sleeping again once I know Ithi is safe at work.

 

Of course you would. Teammates gotta stick together. 

[LilyElizabeth]

Oh irt to BG. There is most of the game I would prefer to lynch before him. Because his statements are all pretty much null and I could point to at least one thing I find bad from everyone else except maybe BFG.

 

Sorry, stupid cold is back. I will be sleeping again once I know Ithi is safe at work.

Feel better. 

[Zander?]

 

Oh irt to BG. There is most of the game I would prefer to lynch before him. Because his statements are all pretty much null and I could point to at least one thing I find bad from everyone else except maybe BFG.

 

Sorry, stupid cold is back. I will be sleeping again once I know Ithi is safe at work.

 

Of course you would. Teammates gotta stick together. 

 

 

 

If Turin flips scum which is likely Imma be taking a hard look at BG.  Hes not nothing to alleviate any of my doubts.

[LilyElizabeth]

 

 

 

Nyn, they are not out of wtl. My current best guesses for mafia are the people I listed. No one in this game is clear.

 

If I live through this day I may make another complete list. I wonder who will even read it. Frankly, it gets annoying to make the lists when most will only look at them after I'm dead unless it is to say how bad they are. I really don't understand how you can say somwones reads are bad when you only know your own alignment and anyone that dies and flips. People said my previous reads were bad but a lot of people have echoed them Later. You might be able to say that you don't understand how I got somewhere but the read itself is either correct or not and only the mafia really know who is on their team.

 

So be a good fella and tell us who your Scummates are then.

Why, oh, why, can we not rep posts here?

lily, why do you think I'm mafia? Use your own words not regurgitate the case others have made. Show where your view changed If you can.

 

 

I think you're mafia because I am pretty sure BG is and you seem to be avoiding listing him in a negative light all the while trying to put yourself in a position to look good when he flips scum. I also don't like your tone since you came back. Turin 1.0 looked very townie to me. Turin 2.0 looks like he's trying to look townie.