[Basic] Supernatural Mafia ~ Game Over ~ Town Wins!!!

[BFG]

 

 

 

this conversation feels very familiar

 

I'm not sure I completely buy Sooh's earlier response either

Buy which response?

 

Oh, and before I forget. Zander, you're not at all Zander this game. You seem hostile, defensive, FOSing everyone (at least until recalibrating with Cory), and I don't see at all the townie Zander that I've come to expect. This has nothing to do with volume. It has to do with tone. You're using vocabulary that seems un-Zander and that is why I'll

 

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[v]Zander[/v]

Sooh, can you explain the bolded?

When I did my ISO of Zander I tried pointing out all the players he has FOSed early game. Then came a post where he said that Cory and he hadn't discussed very much yet, and then came the list of leans in which he pointed out he had cooperated with Cory on making. Some of the town leans on that list were people he had sussed earlier.

Ok, it was the latter bit of your explanation that I was missing :) essentially last game you had Zander FoSing everyone as a towntell and I was so seeing why thar had changed...

 

can you explain your recent read on him? Why if one of you flip town would the other need to be copped tobecleared?

[alannalynn]

BFG gonna have to wait. I'm literally laying in bed trying to sleep. I really need to go back and Iso him but I don't think he's in danger of a lunch today. The point that I was making was that he was involved enough for me to not slot him as mafia. I did move him up in my town pile after his longer post but apparently other people arent seeing the same things that I was seeing, so. ... raincheck?

[Zander?]

I can't sleep :(

 

 

 

I can't sleep :(

:(

 

 

 

I couldn't fall asleep last night either. It was a pain.

 

[BFG]

 

 

 

 

this conversation feels very familiar

 

I'm not sure I completely buy Sooh's earlier response either

Buy which response?

 

Oh, and before I forget. Zander, you're not at all Zander this game. You seem hostile, defensive, FOSing everyone (at least until recalibrating with Cory), and I don't see at all the townie Zander that I've come to expect. This has nothing to do with volume. It has to do with tone. You're using vocabulary that seems un-Zander and that is why I'll

 

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[v]Zander[/v]

Sooh, can you explain the bolded?

When I did my ISO of Zander I tried pointing out all the players he has FOSed early game. Then came a post where he said that Cory and he hadn't discussed very much yet, and then came the list of leans in which he pointed out he had cooperated with Cory on making. Some of the town leans on that list were people he had sussed earlier.

So after a reread with CoryGOAT, here is where I am atp:

 

[v] unvote [/v]

 

Thane- Engaged and committed

Nyn- Making good observations and points. Decent presence ITT.

BFG- More active then Id expect as a wolf!BFG atp

 

Alanna- I didnt hate her response to my question. I'm more worried about her atp then Cory is.

 

BG- Null and dont know him really. Want to hear his response to my question.

Nolder- I think we came back weird for just about every post of his. But Nol posts weird so Null

Turin- Here for now. Wanna see some more content before passing judgement as I was wrong on him in the last game.

Pral- Need more to go off of.

 

Lily- This is one spot were kinda were I differ from Cory he has her higher and has more experience with her then me as I have none. But I wasnt a fan of her switching off her votes as soon as questions arose.

 

Eldrick- Feels very forced

Sooh- Sooh is sick but I feel like after last game Sooh should be Town telling better atp. Also something I noted was her Null stance on Eld. May be nothing but where I have them both scummy its something I noticed.

 

[v] Sooh [/v]

 

Could just as easily vote Eld atp.

FOS'ing everyone is more likely to come from Town!Zander or Scum!Zander Sooh?

 

Anyone else care to weigh in on this?

 

Also which of my Town leans do you feel I sussed and what about that suss and or the change on the read bothered you and why?

Before this post the only things you'd said about me, Laine, Thane were negative (or null at best) and the only things said about Nyn were that she made you laugh...

[alannalynn]

I couldn't fall asleep last night either. It was a pain.

I have to wake up in two hours to go to a volunteer thing until 2 pm then I have to work tonight 6 p.m. - 5 a.m. which sucks on no sleep.

 

So I'm doing voice to text because I'm too lazy to type on my phone and everything looks weird because apparently I can't speak very well lol

[BFG]

BFG gonna have to wait. I'm literally laying in bed trying to sleep. I really need to go back and Iso him but I don't think he's in danger of a lunch today. The point that I was making was that he was involved enough for me to not slot him as mafia. I did move him up in my town pile after his longer post but apparently other people arent seeing the same things that I was seeing, so. ... raincheck?

Ok,

 

sleep well!

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

this conversation feels very familiar

 

I'm not sure I completely buy Sooh's earlier response either

Buy which response?

 

Oh, and before I forget. Zander, you're not at all Zander this game. You seem hostile, defensive, FOSing everyone (at least until recalibrating with Cory), and I don't see at all the townie Zander that I've come to expect. This has nothing to do with volume. It has to do with tone. You're using vocabulary that seems un-Zander and that is why I'll

 

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[v]Zander[/v]

Sooh, can you explain the bolded?

When I did my ISO of Zander I tried pointing out all the players he has FOSed early game. Then came a post where he said that Cory and he hadn't discussed very much yet, and then came the list of leans in which he pointed out he had cooperated with Cory on making. Some of the town leans on that list were people he had sussed earlier.

So after a reread with CoryGOAT, here is where I am atp:

 

[v] unvote [/v]

 

Thane- Engaged and committed

Nyn- Making good observations and points. Decent presence ITT.

BFG- More active then Id expect as a wolf!BFG atp

 

Alanna- I didnt hate her response to my question. I'm more worried about her atp then Cory is.

 

BG- Null and dont know him really. Want to hear his response to my question.

Nolder- I think we came back weird for just about every post of his. But Nol posts weird so Null

Turin- Here for now. Wanna see some more content before passing judgement as I was wrong on him in the last game.

Pral- Need more to go off of.

 

Lily- This is one spot were kinda were I differ from Cory he has her higher and has more experience with her then me as I have none. But I wasnt a fan of her switching off her votes as soon as questions arose.

 

Eldrick- Feels very forced

Sooh- Sooh is sick but I feel like after last game Sooh should be Town telling better atp. Also something I noted was her Null stance on Eld. May be nothing but where I have them both scummy its something I noticed.

 

[v] Sooh [/v]

 

Could just as easily vote Eld atp.

FOS'ing everyone is more likely to come from Town!Zander or Scum!Zander Sooh?

 

Anyone else care to weigh in on this?

 

Also which of my Town leans do you feel I sussed and what about that suss and or the change on the read bothered you and why?

Before this post the only things you'd said about me, Laine, Thane were negative (or null at best) and the only things said about Nyn were that she made you laugh...

 

 

Thanks Sooh.

 

Only thing I said about Thane was about not serving drinks lol.

 

So how does your conclusion make you feel concerning me.

[Nynaeve]

You know that's bfg and not sooh, right?

[Zander?]

You know that's bfg and not sooh, right?

 

Yep

[Nynaeve]

Ok just making sure lol

[BFG]

 

 

 

 

 

 

this conversation feels very familiar

 

I'm not sure I completely buy Sooh's earlier response either

Buy which response?

 

Oh, and before I forget. Zander, you're not at all Zander this game. You seem hostile, defensive, FOSing everyone (at least until recalibrating with Cory), and I don't see at all the townie Zander that I've come to expect. This has nothing to do with volume. It has to do with tone. You're using vocabulary that seems un-Zander and that is why I'll

 

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[v]Zander[/v]

Sooh, can you explain the bolded?

When I did my ISO of Zander I tried pointing out all the players he has FOSed early game. Then came a post where he said that Cory and he hadn't discussed very much yet, and then came the list of leans in which he pointed out he had cooperated with Cory on making. Some of the town leans on that list were people he had sussed earlier.

So after a reread with CoryGOAT, here is where I am atp:

 

[v] unvote [/v]

 

Thane- Engaged and committed

Nyn- Making good observations and points. Decent presence ITT.

BFG- More active then Id expect as a wolf!BFG atp

 

Alanna- I didnt hate her response to my question. I'm more worried about her atp then Cory is.

 

BG- Null and dont know him really. Want to hear his response to my question.

Nolder- I think we came back weird for just about every post of his. But Nol posts weird so Null

Turin- Here for now. Wanna see some more content before passing judgement as I was wrong on him in the last game.

Pral- Need more to go off of.

 

Lily- This is one spot were kinda were I differ from Cory he has her higher and has more experience with her then me as I have none. But I wasnt a fan of her switching off her votes as soon as questions arose.

 

Eldrick- Feels very forced

Sooh- Sooh is sick but I feel like after last game Sooh should be Town telling better atp. Also something I noted was her Null stance on Eld. May be nothing but where I have them both scummy its something I noticed.

 

[v] Sooh [/v]

 

Could just as easily vote Eld atp.

FOS'ing everyone is more likely to come from Town!Zander or Scum!Zander Sooh?

 

Anyone else care to weigh in on this?

 

Also which of my Town leans do you feel I sussed and what about that suss and or the change on the read bothered you and why?

Before this post the only things you'd said about me, Laine, Thane were negative (or null at best) and the only things said about Nyn were that she made you laugh...

Thanks Sooh.

 

Only thing I said about Thane was about not serving drinks lol.

 

So how does your conclusion make you feel concerning me.

Don't make it an open question next time? Besides Sooh just pointed this out when I asked her about what she meant be FOS in her early post about you.

 

 

It made me think the team was you/Laine/Thane which is something I'm struggling to shake, even though I don't really think are true and there are elements of your play I think are townie. Which is why I've been asking you to explain your reads (particularly on Thane).

[Zander?]

 

Don't make it an open question next time? Besides Sooh just pointed this out when I asked her about what she meant be FOS in her early post about you.

 

 

It made me think the team was you/Laine/Thane which is something I'm struggling to shake, even though I don't really think are true and there are elements of your play I think are townie. Which is why I've been asking you to explain your reads (particularly on Thane).

 

 

Fair enough.  The weigh in part was my question about the alignment part.  So you think I'd buddy both my teammates?  That sounds like me....lol.  Obv it would be an adjustment Im capable of making but not something Ive ever done before.

 

BFG who is your WTL atp?

 

TBQH Thane is pretty much self resolving imo.  If he's not Town he wont make it long anyways.  I take it that youre reading him Scum?

[BFG]

At the time your read on me felt ok, especially if you'd been talking to Cory, as there's zero chance he'd read me as anything but town this game.

 

 

At the time I was ok with the read on Nyn, it wasn't until I'd reread that I realized how little of substance there was at that point, but I still had good feels so was ok with it for an early lean.

 

 

Your Laine read I take with a pinch of salt cos it's a Zander!Laine read /shrug, so although it was odd that you went from lightly(?) sussing her to town reading her, it's also not unusual.

 

Thane you'd pointed out that he wasn't 'offering drinks' which, yes, I took as a suss because Town!Thane is relaxed on thread etc etc etc, (it's also null because Mafia!Thane is relaxed on thread etc etc etc).

 

So my initial reaction on seeing your list was

[Pralaya]

Re: Zander/Nolder: You've never seen v/v violence before? Seems like you're saying they're either w/w or v/w w/v. Which is the more likely wolf? Zander or Nolder? It just seems like a cop off to not really make a stance between the two of them.

I am saying that this is not v/v. That is exactly what I am saying. How is it a coup out when I am indeed taking a stance elsewhere and voting where I feel the scum is?

 

As for myself, I unvoted Zander because there seemed to be no way I was ever going to get a lynch of him through, and my efforts and vote was wasted there. Could I have waited for someone else to vote for? Sure, but I chose not to. If nothing else both myself (especially myself) and Zander have now had the chance to look at others.

 

I still don't know what you mean by throwing in Alanna. I mentioned her because she was already involved.

I don't see how you are saying that he wouldn't get lynched. That explanation seems week. Even now he has two votes and nobody else is having more than him. It looks more like you backing off when you were staring to get heat.

[Zander?]

 

Re: Zander/Nolder: You've never seen v/v violence before? Seems like you're saying they're either w/w or v/w w/v. Which is the more likely wolf? Zander or Nolder? It just seems like a cop off to not really make a stance between the two of them.

I am saying that this is not v/v. That is exactly what I am saying. How is it a coup out when I am indeed taking a stance elsewhere and voting where I feel the scum is?

 

As for myself, I unvoted Zander because there seemed to be no way I was ever going to get a lynch of him through, and my efforts and vote was wasted there. Could I have waited for someone else to vote for? Sure, but I chose not to. If nothing else both myself (especially myself) and Zander have now had the chance to look at others.

 

I still don't know what you mean by throwing in Alanna. I mentioned her because she was already involved.

I don't see how you are saying that he wouldn't get lynched. That explanation seems week. Even now he has two votes and nobody else is having more than him. It looks more like you backing off when you were staring to get heat.

 

 

Agreed

 

What does that make you think irt me Pral?

[Sooh]

 

Zander, if you are Town this game you're not having very much fun with it it seems. In terms of this particular example, you said during the aftermath of last game that you would be wary of Laine for a while. I don't expect that that is very difficult to fake, so in terms of your alignment I think it's null.

 

 

Ill admit Im not having as much fun because as everyone knows I like to be in the thick of things and joking a lot. But I understand how the ton of posting can get annoying to others and make them enjoy the game less and Im not the type of person that wants to ruin things for others.  So Im trying to balance having fun while trying to keep myself reigned in.

 

Apparently this is what you get when that happens.  But rest assured, my dedication to lunching the wolves as not diminished in the slightest.

 

FTR I haven't stopped looking for town in you. Perhaps it's this lack of having fun and frustration about not being yourself I'm seeing. I don't know. It's tough for me to read you town this game. 

 

Also I didn't really come at you with nothing, I came at you with concerns that I saw. They were difficult to substantiate because they were based on tone first and foremost, and that is difficult to prove. You read a post with one mindset and get one thing, you change your mindset and see something else. 

 

Do you really expect wolf me to go up against you when you have Cory on tow? I'm aware that this is WIFOM, but think about it. If anything I would prefer to join you in your pursuits if my previous meta matters here. Town me has had good games and off games. It's very possible that this is my off game, but I am trying, and I am pointing out things I don't agree with. 

 

If you are town, accept that I am wrong about you. If you aren't, I won't expect you to even try.

 

 

Sooh. You said somewhere that your read on BG is based on him making good observations. Can you tell me what those are? Cause I didnt see much of that in my ISO. He's frowning upon meta use, guaranteeing that someone is 99.9% town on D1 is apoarently the work of the devil and that soft claiming is more likely to come from scum. That has been a big chunk of his... observations. So what exactly did you like about it? Or was it his case on Thane? Seeing as he places so high on your read list. Ftr I don't think he belongs there so far.

 

There's a reason why I tried to explain in my post that I may be pocketed by him. I like that he has been level headed when it comes to me and my prodding, and also I feel like you're putting quantifiers on his opinions that I'm not sure is what he intended to express (apoarently the work of the devil and that soft claiming is more likely to come from scum.). I don't know him, I don't know what to expect. I had to place him somewhere, and I chose the top of my list. 

[BFG]

 

Don't make it an open question next time? Besides Sooh just pointed this out when I asked her about what she meant be FOS in her early post about you.

 

 

It made me think the team was you/Laine/Thane which is something I'm struggling to shake, even though I don't really think are true and there are elements of your play I think are townie. Which is why I've been asking you to explain your reads (particularly on Thane).

 

Fair enough. The weigh in part was my question about the alignment part. So you think I'd buddy both my teammates? That sounds like me....lol. Obv it would be an adjustment Im capable of making but not something Ive ever done before.

 

BFG who is your WTL atp?

 

TBQH Thane is pretty much self resolving imo. If he's not Town he wont make it long anyways. I take it that youre reading him Scum?

[Sooh]

 

I gotchu Z

 

BG why would we lynch for info when we could lynch a wolf? That's a terrible idea...

 

It is a terrible idea and everyone sees Alanna agreed to lunch Sooh tomorrow.

 

Perhaps instead of asking others to lynch me you could advocate for a possible cop to view me like I have done with you?

[Sooh]

 

 

 

 

this conversation feels very familiar

 

I'm not sure I completely buy Sooh's earlier response either

Buy which response?

 

Oh, and before I forget. Zander, you're not at all Zander this game. You seem hostile, defensive, FOSing everyone (at least until recalibrating with Cory), and I don't see at all the townie Zander that I've come to expect. This has nothing to do with volume. It has to do with tone. You're using vocabulary that seems un-Zander and that is why I'll

 

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[v]Zander[/v]

Sooh, can you explain the bolded?

When I did my ISO of Zander I tried pointing out all the players he has FOSed early game. Then came a post where he said that Cory and he hadn't discussed very much yet, and then came the list of leans in which he pointed out he had cooperated with Cory on making. Some of the town leans on that list were people he had sussed earlier.

Ok, it was the latter bit of your explanation that I was missing :) essentially last game you had Zander FoSing everyone as a towntell and I was so seeing why thar had changed...

 

can you explain your recent read on him? Why if one of you flip town would the other need to be copped tobecleared?

 

If I die I flip town. I don't trust my own read of him enough to want you to lynch him blindly when so many of you are apparently town reading/leaning on him. He might still be town. 

 

If he dies and flips town I'm still town.

 

If he dies and flips scum I'm not his scum mate who he has been actively trying to lynch, which arguably is his meta. 

 

I feel like if one of us dies, the other is a mislynch waiting to happen.

[Zander?]

 

 

I gotchu Z

 

BG why would we lynch for info when we could lynch a wolf? That's a terrible idea...

 

It is a terrible idea and everyone sees Alanna agreed to lunch Sooh tomorrow.

 

Perhaps instead of asking others to lynch me you could advocate for a possible cop to view me like I have done with you?

 

 

This is twice you mentioned this...are the GF or trying to out the Cop?  This is pinging me.  Like if Nolder flips Scum and is a goon....I think there a lot of w/w equity between you.

 

@ BFG use your words my dear...lol  Also WTL list with reasons please.

[Sooh]

 

 

 

 

 

 

this conversation feels very familiar

 

I'm not sure I completely buy Sooh's earlier response either

Buy which response?

 

Oh, and before I forget. Zander, you're not at all Zander this game. You seem hostile, defensive, FOSing everyone (at least until recalibrating with Cory), and I don't see at all the townie Zander that I've come to expect. This has nothing to do with volume. It has to do with tone. You're using vocabulary that seems un-Zander and that is why I'll

 

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[v]Zander[/v]

Sooh, can you explain the bolded?

When I did my ISO of Zander I tried pointing out all the players he has FOSed early game. Then came a post where he said that Cory and he hadn't discussed very much yet, and then came the list of leans in which he pointed out he had cooperated with Cory on making. Some of the town leans on that list were people he had sussed earlier.

So after a reread with CoryGOAT, here is where I am atp:

 

[v] unvote [/v]

 

Thane- Engaged and committed

Nyn- Making good observations and points. Decent presence ITT.

BFG- More active then Id expect as a wolf!BFG atp

 

Alanna- I didnt hate her response to my question. I'm more worried about her atp then Cory is.

 

BG- Null and dont know him really. Want to hear his response to my question.

Nolder- I think we came back weird for just about every post of his. But Nol posts weird so Null

Turin- Here for now. Wanna see some more content before passing judgement as I was wrong on him in the last game.

Pral- Need more to go off of.

 

Lily- This is one spot were kinda were I differ from Cory he has her higher and has more experience with her then me as I have none. But I wasnt a fan of her switching off her votes as soon as questions arose.

 

Eldrick- Feels very forced

Sooh- Sooh is sick but I feel like after last game Sooh should be Town telling better atp. Also something I noted was her Null stance on Eld. May be nothing but where I have them both scummy its something I noticed.

 

[v] Sooh [/v]

 

Could just as easily vote Eld atp.

FOS'ing everyone is more likely to come from Town!Zander or Scum!Zander Sooh?

 

Anyone else care to weigh in on this?

 

Also which of my Town leans do you feel I sussed and what about that suss and or the change on the read bothered you and why?

 

Before this post the only things you'd said about me, Laine, Thane were negative (or null at best) and the only things said about Nyn were that she made you laugh...

 

 

Thanks Sooh.

 

Only thing I said about Thane was about not serving drinks lol.

 

So how does your conclusion make you feel concerning me.

 

It's in my ISO posts of you. I pointed it out there. If you want to go look, feel free. That would have pretty much been my answer anyway. 

[Sooh]

 

 

 

I gotchu Z

 

BG why would we lynch for info when we could lynch a wolf? That's a terrible idea...

 

It is a terrible idea and everyone sees Alanna agreed to lunch Sooh tomorrow.

 

Perhaps instead of asking others to lynch me you could advocate for a possible cop to view me like I have done with you?

 

 

This is twice you mentioned this...are the GF or trying to out the Cop?  This is pinging me.  Like if Nolder flips Scum and is a goon....I think there a lot of w/w equity between you.

 

@ BFG use your words my dear...lol  Also WTL list with reasons please.

 

I am not an idiot, Zander. I am still sick, and I have been very sick this game. I suppose the only way I'll be resolved this game is by being lynched. I don't see this ending in me making it to endgame, because you're right. Even with a cop clear I could be GF, you could be GF, anyone could be GF. In that case it might be better for town to resolve this early.

 

If you can't solve me without lynching me, and the rest of town agrees, then you have to lynch me.

[Turin Turambar]

BFG is officially the towniest townie to town.

 

BG moves up a bit. Self meta defense is useless as you are basically saying trust me in a game about lying. The words are null but the intent is trying to use null information to push a town read for yourself.

 

Alanna, your reply post seems to be treating me as solid town. Is that your current read? Also, your last line asking what I will do WHEN you, Z and Thane flip town, how can you KNOW that will happen? I certainly don't (nor do I believe it will happen). But to answer your actual question, I will continue to take into account all information itt. I expect I will be fighting my own lynch tho if I push 3 town lynches tbh.

 

Z, buddying your teammates is something that Cory would do however. I may have different perspective on mentors than some other people. It has to do with a game from a couple years ago. Christmas mentor mafia. Was possibly Tommy's first game on DM. Caught him d1 but couldn't get him lynched. Ended up lynching a mentee because he picked up a tell from his mentor. I got killed n1. Town lost. :(

 

Wtl staying the same. I will be reading but not posting much due to helping look after poorly small people. Lmk if anything specific for me.

[BFG]

Zander I can't give you a reads list or a wtl list or any sort of list.

 

I'm actually at home tonight and will share the thoughts I have and try to form some semblance of an order, but I can't do that now.

 

At the moment I'm willing to lynch Thane (hence the vote), afaict he's bang on mafia meta and he isn't doing a lot of things I'd expect him to do as town. Obviously he isn't a performing monkey but when he doesn't do any of them I get concerned.

 

 

the only person I'd vocally object to lynching is Turin.

 

 

Nolder... I need to look at him properly this game and I haven't gotten round to doing that yet. From what I remember the points that Nyn/Laine are making make sense and I like him as a train

 

 

Sooh is confusing me and she normally doesn't I don't normally have to look for Town!Sooh and it's not obvious this game. I don't know how much more leeway I'm willing to give because shes been ill and I get a lot of false positives from that

[Nynaeve]

 

 

Zander, if you are Town this game you're not having very much fun with it it seems. In terms of this particular example, you said during the aftermath of last game that you would be wary of Laine for a while. I don't expect that that is very difficult to fake, so in terms of your alignment I think it's null.

 

Ill admit Im not having as much fun because as everyone knows I like to be in the thick of things and joking a lot. But I understand how the ton of posting can get annoying to others and make them enjoy the game less and Im not the type of person that wants to ruin things for others. So Im trying to balance having fun while trying to keep myself reigned in.

 

Apparently this is what you get when that happens. But rest assured, my dedication to lunching the wolves as not diminished in the slightest.

FTR I haven't stopped looking for town in you. Perhaps it's this lack of having fun and frustration about not being yourself I'm seeing. I don't know. It's tough for me to read you town this game.

 

Also I didn't really come at you with nothing, I came at you with concerns that I saw. They were difficult to substantiate because they were based on tone first and foremost, and that is difficult to prove. You read a post with one mindset and get one thing, you change your mindset and see something else.

 

Do you really expect wolf me to go up against you when you have Cory on tow? I'm aware that this is WIFOM, but think about it. If anything I would prefer to join you in your pursuits if my previous meta matters here. Town me has had good games and off games. It's very possible that this is my off game, but I am trying, and I am pointing out things I don't agree with.

 

If you are town, accept that I am wrong about you. If you aren't, I won't expect you to even try.

 

 

Sooh. You said somewhere that your read on BG is based on him making good observations. Can you tell me what those are? Cause I didnt see much of that in my ISO. He's frowning upon meta use, guaranteeing that someone is 99.9% town on D1 is apoarently the work of the devil and that soft claiming is more likely to come from scum. That has been a big chunk of his... observations. So what exactly did you like about it? Or was it his case on Thane? Seeing as he places so high on your read list. Ftr I don't think he belongs there so far.

 

There's a reason why I tried to explain in my post that I may be pocketed by him. I like that he has been level headed when it comes to me and my prodding, and also I feel like you're putting quantifiers on his opinions that I'm not sure is what he intended to express (apoarently the work of the devil and that soft claiming is more likely to come from scum.). I don't know him, I don't know what to expect. I had to place him somewhere, and I chose the top of my list.

 

I kinda dont like that most of his observations are related to mafia 101 of what scum do. Scum breadcrumb. Scum use meta. Scum assure someone is townie with a high percentage. Mafia is not that black and white. It's a very narrow minded way to scumhunt in my eyes. I do acknowledge that he hasn't played with most of the players so maybe him nitpicking these things is not terrib but I think you liking his observations is weird. Most of his content is bringing up loaded mafia topics like meta and breadcrumbing and using it to cast sus or votes. The only real scumhunting effort I've seen is when he expanded on his case on Thane.

 

So ok... pocketing feels aside... can you give examples of observations he made about other players that you approve of? Because him agreeing with you should never be a reason to give him a town read.

 

Ftr I'm not trying to tell you how to read him. He's null for me. But I'm trying to understand your read on him. Openly admitting that he might be pocketing you is great and all but at the same time you're not really trying to see if that might be the case. You just tossing him on your town list cause you "had to place him somewhere" is a weird response. And since you're not familiar with him I would expect you to be more cautious in reading him vs just tossing him in your town pile.