[Standard] The Matrix Reloaded - Game Over

[Clovdyx]

Even drunk I feel like nothing of value has been added to the game since I left.

 

I think I know what Clov feels like every game now

 

 

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[Zander?]

Even drunk I feel like nothing of value has been added to the game since I left.

 

 

show us the way then brothef

[Clovdyx]

 

Clov, add to your point about the lists that BFG's came before she was fully up to speed and right before DL yesterday and you'll get why people didn't react to it. 

 

 

I literally don't care about this at all.  Her not being caught up doesn't mean she can't explain what they're based on - they obviously were based on SOMETHING, unless you think she just RNG'ed a list so she'd have something to post before she got caught up.  

 

If Lenlo's list had been posted two days ago, is it suddenly better?

[Shad_]

*vanishes back into the night*

[Clovdyx]

I kind of get the approach if your thought process is, "These suck, but she's clearly behind, so let's see how they've evolved" and then questioning her...

 

but that didn't seem to happen either.

[Zander?]

*vanishes back into the night*

 

wolfy

 

lololololololol

[Sooh]

 

 

Clov, add to your point about the lists that BFG's came before she was fully up to speed and right before DL yesterday and you'll get why people didn't react to it. 

 

 

I literally don't care about this at all.  Her not being caught up doesn't mean she can't explain what they're based on - they obviously were based on SOMETHING, unless you think she just RNG'ed a list so she'd have something to post before she got caught up.  

 

If Lenlo's list had been posted two days ago, is it suddenly better?

 

I wouldn't have spent as much time looking at it then, no. 

[Sooh]

I kind of get the approach if your thought process is, "These suck, but she's clearly behind, so let's see how they've evolved" and then questioning her...

 

but that didn't seem to happen either.

There was a flip happening in between, and I'm still waiting to see the town-BFG I know in her posts. I'm not feeling great about her at the moment, but I'm trying to give her time. 

[Cory Caboose]

I don't mean to be rude but this game has been going on for like nine days.
 

At some point you have to find a divide between "fell behind" and "mailing it in"

[Sooh]

I don't mean to be rude but this game has been going on for like nine days.

 

At some point you have to find a divide between "fell behind" and "mailing it in"

What's this in reference to? 

[Cory Caboose]

 

I don't mean to be rude but this game has been going on for like nine days.

 

At some point you have to find a divide between "fell behind" and "mailing it in"

What's this in reference to? 

 

 

 

I kind of get the approach if your thought process is, "These suck, but she's clearly behind, so let's see how they've evolved" and then questioning her...

 

but that didn't seem to happen either.

There was a flip happening in between, and I'm still waiting to see the town-BFG I know in her posts. I'm not feeling great about her at the moment, but I'm trying to give her time. 

 

 

This idea in general. I know that some people have spurts where they are busy IRL (I was hit with it and still am being hit with it) but at some point there's an observable difference between who is going to be around and trying to make an impact on the game and people stuck in "perma-catchup mode"

 

And we know how I feel about the wolf equity of people in the latter category

 

Not saying just saying

[Sooh]

Oh I know. My patience is wearing thinner. Not much I can do this Night phase though.

 

Actually going to bed now too.

 

See you all tomorrow!

[Cory Caboose]

Night Poot <3

[Yates]

 

Even drunk I feel like nothing of value has been added to the game since I left.

 

 

show us the way then brothef

 

One house had hot toddies [hot cider with rum and apple jack] and kielbasa. It was a good stop.

 

But also, p-sure one of your top Town reads is scum. And it's going to hurt your feelings/make you sad. Will confirm in the AM.

[Shad_]

Cory, you know the main thing that has occasionally made me feel icky about you in this game?

[Shad_]

You aren't doing any of that detailed analysis of how you think a given player thinks and why you believe their actions are more likely to be scum or town based upon it.

 

You did a lot of that in US. Or maybe you just did it for BFG, because I wasn't paying terribly much attention to you there, but it helped.

[Shad_]

Like I think I would be town reading you slightly higher if you did more of the things I saw you do as scum before. :????????????:

[Lenlo]

Ok.  I didn't catch Sooh saying that but not going to check right now because it's irrelevant to my point anyway.

 

So here's I guess the problem with thinking this way.  You're saying Lenlo's scum pile is pure omgus.  You're characterizing him as emotionally reacting to anyone who questions him by labeling them scum.  If Lenlo is doing this as scum, that basically spews Cory, BFG, and Sooh (and you of course) town.  Are you comfortable with that?

Except my scum pile isnt pure omgus. Look at the theory I posted, that you talked with me about. Thats what I am going off of. I believe this theory to be correct, so I am pushing it. 

 

Btw the Sooh/BFG doesnt mean Sooh and BFG are both scum. Im saying one or the other. If Sooh if scum I would say BFG town and vice versa. Sorry if that wasnt clear.

 

Zander, I tried to understand where you were coming from but you never gave me a case to work with. You said how I reacted with Rack was scummy and then just went ham from there. Everytime I asked for a case to look at and talk with you about all I got back was "I DONT HAVE TO ANSWER TO A WOLF RAAAAAAWR".

 

Again I will explain the Corlanna read to you, Its not cause they voted me its the circumstances surrounding that vote.

[Clovdyx]

Like I think I would be town reading you slightly higher if you did more of the things I saw you do as scum before. :????????????:

This is not the strangest argument I've seen today, but dammit, you're trying. Respect.

[Shad_]

Lenlo you read this thread through the exclusive lens of self-defense.

[Lenlo]

I disagree, but thats not what I want to convince you of. I want to convince you my theory. 

[Shad_]

Lenlo you read this thread through the exclusive lens of self-defense.

That's not fair but ugh, I basically just showed where the point in question against you is flawed and you instinctively went for arguing against the hypothetical criteria instead of grasping what I was saying.  In this mentality lies the key to figuring you out.  I just haven't found it yet.

[Clovdyx]

 

 

Ok. I didn't catch Sooh saying that but not going to check right now because it's irrelevant to my point anyway.

 

So here's I guess the problem with thinking this way. You're saying Lenlo's scum pile is pure omgus. You're characterizing him as emotionally reacting to anyone who questions him by labeling them scum. If Lenlo is doing this as scum, that basically spews Cory, BFG, and Sooh (and you of course) town. Are you comfortable with that?

Except my scum pile isnt pure omgus. Look at the theory I posted, that you talked with me about. Thats what I am going off of. I believe this theory to be correct, so I am pushing it.

 

Btw the Sooh/BFG doesnt mean Sooh and BFG are both scum. Im saying one or the other. If Sooh if scum I would say BFG town and vice versa. Sorry if that wasnt clear.

 

Zander, I tried to understand where you were coming from but you never gave me a case to work with. You said how I reacted with Rack was scummy and then just went ham from there. Everytime I asked for a case to look at and talk with you about all I got back was "I DONT HAVE TO ANSWER TO A WOLF RAAAAAAWR".

 

Again I will explain the Corlanna read to you, Its not cause they voted me its the circumstances surrounding that vote.

Without checking, the bolds seems to contradict the theory you had earlier. If you believe people were pushing away from Rack because they thought a teammate could get shot, wouldn't BFG be increasingly likely to be scum after a Sooh maf flip?

[Lenlo]

My mind is an enigma, even to myself.

[Lenlo]

Maybe, but BFG didnt jump. She had the chance multiple times to jump easily, but instead she reread and it looked to me tried to figure out the situation. Yeah at the end she was all "I would have jumped if Dice had held off", but there was nothing stopping her from jumping like an hour before that and hiding in the crowd with everybody else.