[Standard] The Matrix Reloaded - Game Over

[Taborline]

  On 10/28/2015 at 5:39 PM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 5:38 PM, Taborline said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 5:21 PM, Shad_ said:

Do you think Dice and Nomi can be w/w or does a scum flip from one clear the other?

 

No, I don't think a flip would necessarily clear the other.

 

 

Have you played with Dice before?

 

 

Only twice, once he was a wolf who was lynched D1, and the other he vigilante'd himself on N1.

[Zander?]

  On 10/28/2015 at 12:42 PM, Yates said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 2:56 AM, Shad_ said:

Posts like these are why I like Zander in this game.  It might seem pretty trivial but I think through all the usual horsing around he's attempting to bring attention to things that ring authentic in Zanderland.  It's not that scum!Zander can't make this post, but it would just be a really random thing for him to say if he didn't actually mean it.

I really like this read, actually. Even in a world where you are scum I think this would still point towards Zander Town.

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 3:05 AM, Lenlo said:

If he wants to be town in my book, he has to actually start casing people and posting original content.

I want Jeter to stop sleeping with all the hottest women in the world - including his fiance - and rubbing it in my face. But that's not the world we live in. Zander isn't going to change to fit how you read the game so you need to simply adjust the way you read Zander.

 

 

 

Very very much the truth brother!!!!

 

[Pralaya]

  On 10/28/2015 at 12:40 AM, cory caboose said:

Yates I'm almost entirely sure what you are thinking and it's a matter of environment. I don't feel particularly compelled to intervene. Sometimes I need to drive discussion and other times I don't. See whatever I said to AJ in HoC, it's a matter of comfort level and figuring out where I am going to be most useful.

 

I'm at the point at DM where villages are good enough that I can do what I need to do to get the most accurate reads. If you want angry bully backhand slap Cory to awaken and start demanding things I can do that if you push me to a certain level of aggravation.

 

You know, that is exactly what is bothering me about you this game. When you are a town, you have the itch to solve it right from the beginning. Even if you have no information, you try to somehow extract the information. For example, you mislynched me last game - but throughout the process you were like "Come on, show me your towniness. I want to talk to you real time. I want to see you more" kind of posts. That motivation is lacking from you this game and you have spent a lot of time putting some straight facts, commenting on random things and a bit of defending. I have not caught up completely, maybe you have started it in the later pages. Maybe you are actually busy for now. But, you seem different for me this game. 

[Shad_]

  On 10/28/2015 at 5:45 PM, Taborline said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 5:39 PM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 5:38 PM, Taborline said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 5:21 PM, Shad_ said:

Do you think Dice and Nomi can be w/w or does a scum flip from one clear the other?

 

No, I don't think a flip would necessarily clear the other.

 

 

Have you played with Dice before?

 

 

Only twice, once he was a wolf who was lynched D1, and the other he vigilante'd himself on N1.

 

 

Haha I forgot about that.

 

Are you seeing any parallels between his game here and his game as scum?

[Pralaya]

  On 10/27/2015 at 7:05 PM, Yates said:

Besides the point, BFG said she wouldn't be active FOR THE WEEKEND due to a wedding. This isn't INDIA. The wedding's GOT to be over by now, right? RIGHT?

 

Bwahahaha, my wedding spanned 3 full days ! I kid you not, i have never spent so much time standing ever in my life

[Taborline]

  On 10/28/2015 at 5:55 PM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 5:45 PM, Taborline said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 5:39 PM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 5:38 PM, Taborline said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 5:21 PM, Shad_ said:

Do you think Dice and Nomi can be w/w or does a scum flip from one clear the other?

 

No, I don't think a flip would necessarily clear the other.

 

 

Have you played with Dice before?

 

 

Only twice, once he was a wolf who was lynched D1, and the other he vigilante'd himself on N1.

 

 

Haha I forgot about that.

 

Are you seeing any parallels between his game here and his game as scum?

 

 

It was good

 

And yes, which is why I have him so low. A lot of joking, the "BFG, should I be voting you?" sort of non-post, but I think I'm mainly hung up on the vote for Nomi which is, for me, a non-reason.

[Zander?]

  On 10/28/2015 at 12:59 PM, Yates said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 4:57 AM, Nomi Sunrider said:

Zander is the guy who sits at the table with his friends and jokes around with them. He's more liable to comment on other's ideas than generate a massive amount of his own. Yet if you look carefully, he is still doing so.

 

It's just that his ratio of original content to commentary is different from most.

"Different from most" is a good way to describe our Zander.

 

 

[Zander?]

  On 10/28/2015 at 1:53 PM, Zander said:

morning peeps

 

lots of new stuff....I LIKE!!!!!

 

ok time to get caught up ill be around if anyone wants to chat

 

 

Yay i caught up to my im catching up post....and theres still like 7 pages left.....lololololol me

[Zander?]

  On 10/28/2015 at 1:56 PM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 5:43 AM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 5:30 AM, Lenlo said:

Shad, id prefer it if you didnt put words in Zanders mouth/defend him with semantics (EXP: "Zander's initial vote on Lenlo was a joke. Just like, accept that. It's a Zander thing.") . Feel free to debate with Rack, but let Zander stand on his own two feet and defend himself some. I wanna see how he handles it and it would also qualify as him posting original content which would make me feel better about reading him.

 

Nomi, its a fairly low bar I know, but if its one he cant jump over then either hes scum or a poor town. Neither of which I see much problem with lynching if it helps us solve the game. As for his ratio to OC to posts, its not just different its incredibly low.

Sorry, no. If you wanted to hear Zander explain this himself you should have asked him. I am interested in improving my read on Rack right now and the statement was useful towards that end.

Fine. Zander, same question. Don't answer for him.

 

Yates, just cause that's how he is doesn't mean it's a good way to be. Maybe he just doesn't mesh well with me, but I really don't like how he's handling the game. He doesn't have to change for the entire game but if he could put in the effort do something to help me clear him, that would go a long way imo.

 

Nomi, thanks for the advice. I'll try and lighten up a little bit if it helps you/everyone else read me better.

 

 

 

i dont see a question here, did i miss something?  lmk

 

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 2:05 PM, cory caboose said:

 

From the hip:

 

Sili

Zander 

 

Taborline

Dice

Thane

Clov

 

Nomi

Shad

Yates

 

BFG

Lenlo

Sooh

Hallia

 

Pralaya

Rack

 

---

Still working through sorting the nulls, which is the new TROUBLE spot

I'm not confident enough to throw anyone in blue AORN and there's a definite gap in the null list but I think I would still be surprised if there was a wolf in the top 6. I would wager heavily there aren't > 1.

 

Pral's posts seems different to me than Ragnarok where I admittedly misread him but there's more posturing here than otherwise and more of a "making a case and leave" as opposed to the sort of little bits he was giving out. Just doesn't feel genuine to me.

 

 

 

im not seeing why you have Dice so high at all.

 

im not familiar with Tab's game so can you let me know what your seeing please?

[Sili Quirrels]

Ill go back to rack prob when i get back then rd pral in more detail.

[Sili Quirrels]

I was getting restless.

[Cory Caboose]

ASK A CORKY

 

Q: How do you have [that read] on dice!???

A: I read dice really really well.

NEXT QUESTION

[Zander?]

  On 10/28/2015 at 2:08 PM, Lenlo said:

You hurt me Cory. I don't like this color. I mean, better than a red shirt but still.

 

Why?

 

 

fwiw i think Red suits you here

[Lenlo]

  On 10/27/2015 at 11:12 PM, rackcitysteelers said:

Well I had some posts queued up but I lost them so oh well. But I think the push on me is stupid but not scummy. I think it was silli that was saying they were expecting me to finally say something when I got back but I pretty clearly stated in my post that I wasn't going to actually be able to catch up until later. So now I'm gonna give you some thoughts.

 

I don't really set out with a concrete strategy, but the Lenlo thing was kinda just looking for actions. I wasn't entirely happy with Lenlo's reactions to it but it wasn't terrible and I have a bigger scum read anyways.

 

I think Zander is scum. I thought his opening post felt forced but some people said it was just him so I was like whatever. Someone else pointed this out (I forget who) but he's spent a lot of time just defending and backing people up. It's a pretty easy tactic to lay low and get on some people's good side. Zander said that he had been attacking people though, but it wasn't a high risk one. He just jumped on the popular Lenlo bandwagon. His reasoning wasn't good either, Lenlo imo was pretty clearly just using a mostly gut read on that person who had barely posted so I didn't get why Zander was making a big deal about it. It felt like a weak reason to jump on a popular bandwagon. I'm gonna Vote: Zander

Sorry Z, meant for you to respond to this one.

 

This is a concern that isnt coming from me, so maybe youll actually answer it instead of dancing around it with gifs and pictures.

[Cory Caboose]

  On 10/28/2015 at 5:38 PM, Taborline said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 5:21 PM, Shad_ said:

Do you think Dice and Nomi can be w/w or does a scum flip from one clear the other?

 

No, I don't think a flip would necessarily clear the other.

 

 

If Nomi is w I am literally never lynching dice

 

Dice can bus but I have NEVER seen him bus a partner like that. Dice instigated it IIRC

[Sili Quirrels]

Picture a ravished squirrel without any acorns. Hes desperate. You cant hold him accountable for what he says about his human friends.

[Cory Caboose]

  On 10/28/2015 at 5:53 PM, Pralaya said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 12:40 AM, cory caboose said:

Yates I'm almost entirely sure what you are thinking and it's a matter of environment. I don't feel particularly compelled to intervene. Sometimes I need to drive discussion and other times I don't. See whatever I said to AJ in HoC, it's a matter of comfort level and figuring out where I am going to be most useful.

 

I'm at the point at DM where villages are good enough that I can do what I need to do to get the most accurate reads. If you want angry bully backhand slap Cory to awaken and start demanding things I can do that if you push me to a certain level of aggravation.

 

You know, that is exactly what is bothering me about you this game. When you are a town, you have the itch to solve it right from the beginning. Even if you have no information, you try to somehow extract the information. For example, you mislynched me last game - but throughout the process you were like "Come on, show me your towniness. I want to talk to you real time. I want to see you more" kind of posts. That motivation is lacking from you this game and you have spent a lot of time putting some straight facts, commenting on random things and a bit of defending. I have not caught up completely, maybe you have started it in the later pages. Maybe you are actually busy for now. But, you seem different for me this game. 

 

 

I always wake up closer to EOD when I feel the pressure coming in

 

I woke up already

 

Catch the hell up and give me some actual reads

[Hallia]

I think Dice has bussed me as a teammate before.

[Hallia]

Zander I'm liking your catch-up.

[Zander?]

  On 10/28/2015 at 3:16 PM, Yates said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 3:13 PM, rackcitysteelers said:

I've got a few people that I'm keeping an eye on but not anyone who stands out as much to me as Zander does.

For example? Who are these people? I have to assume you have stuff out there for them to respond to so you can alignment solve them as well so it shouldn't be a State secret, right?

 

 

 

maybe hes only got eyes for me????

[Cory Caboose]

  On 10/28/2015 at 6:19 PM, Hallia said:

I think Dice has bussed me as a teammate before.

 

Yes, during Day 3(?) of Ithi's Death of Meta game. He voted you early and didn't post much else and didn't have any real substance.

 

I read that game extensively and knew he was a wolf for doing it and got him lynched literally the day I subbed in.

 

What he's doing with Nomi is a world away.

[Shad_]

I'm struggling to think of 4 scum in this game.  Feeling too good about too many of you.

[Sili Quirrels]

Im sure dice can bus.

[Sili Quirrels]

Like how else is he supposed to replicate his meta

[Cory Caboose]

Seriously compare Pral's posts to this game to his Ragnarok posts

 

Every little thing is buttered up and wordy and "looks like he's thinking"

 

In Ragnarok he was very IDGAF, here are my reads deal with it in his sparse, sparse posting

 

He even SAID after the game that if he was a wolf he would have tried to look better

DEW THE MATH