Ragnarok Game Thread - Game Over, Town Wins!

[Sooh]

Just trying to see how your head works, Cory. Not trying to badger you. At some point you do have to you know, or I'll tinfoil like crazy on you.

[Taborline]

Interesting. Cory hinting at mafia having had the opportunity to talk before the game started, and then Talya immediately suggesting that Sili and I have staged our conversation. That's convenient. 

 

And then Leelou responding "Mhm".

 

But this only on the basis right now of seeing Leelou as being the scummier of Talya vs. Leelou. 

 

How does Leelou normally play? Reading back I see a lot of off-topic joking posts, helpful posts/answering questions, the vote for Cory, the back and forth with Tal and then the switch to voting for Tal. 

 

Both of her votes look relatively "safe" to me, i.e. voting for Cory because of the 4 day head start post (which is an easy target), and voting for Talya because Talya was pressing her. From the interaction, as I said earlier, I find Tal to actually be leaning more towards town, which makes me read Leelou as being slightly scummier. Then your bringing up that bit against Talya and her agreeing with you could be a scum on scum interaction, trying to frame Tal. 

 

Not a heck of a lot to go on, as you can see, but I don't have a clear town on you from anywhere, which is why I'd like to hear Cory's thought process.

[Cory Caboose]

Just trying to see how your head works, Cory. Not trying to badger you. At some point you do have to you know, or I'll tinfoil like crazy on you.

 

Sounds more like a you problem than a me problem toots

[Niniel]

Hi Tina!

 

What's bouncing around in your head ATM?

 

Too much is bouncing around because rl doesn´t want me to sit down for more than 15 minutes at a time. I´ll come back later with some reads, when I get enough time to write it all down. 

[Cory Caboose]

Both of her votes look relatively "safe" to me, i.e. voting for Cory because of the 4 day head start post (which is an easy target)

 

I think most people would argue that I'm pretty much the exact opposite of an easy target

[Taborline]

 

Both of her votes look relatively "safe" to me, i.e. voting for Cory because of the 4 day head start post (which is an easy target)

 

I think most people would argue that I'm pretty much the exact opposite of an easy target

 

 

[Sooh]

I'm not sure I can read Leelou very well. 

 

 

 

Just trying to see how your head works, Cory. Not trying to badger you. At some point you do have to you know, or I'll tinfoil like crazy on you.

 

Sounds more like a you problem than a me problem toots

 

Perhaps. Then again it could become your problem at some point. 

[Cory Caboose]

I have already stated my willingness to tango, Pootaloot

 

There are no lies on the dance floor

[Shad_]

VOTE COUNT
 
Sili (2) - TinaHel, KeyBOOSE
John Snow (2) - Ocicat, Dicetosser
Eldrick (1)  - Lenlo
Ocicat (2) - Sili, Eldrick
Lenlo (3) - Talya, John Snow, Misheru

Not voting (7): Songstress, Leelou, Verbal, Taborline, Pralaya, Wishleste, Sooh

9 to lynch

[michellem]

 

I don't feel good about Len. His ISO on Talya and posting post counts and such feels like trying to look helpful and engaged and like he's #solving, instead of having to add actual content.

Bold - Yeah, cause the last like 10-15 pages of discussion about Eldrick, Talya, Ocicat and other such topics with Sili and other people wasnt actually me. It was just someone else with the same name as me in this game that no one knows about. Seriously? Your going to ignore everything else ive done and say I am not contributing to this game? Thats a BS reason to vote and looks to me like your just trying to hop onto an easy train of a player that is historically easy to lynch. FOS Mish. FOS.

 

Yes. After reading through all your posts, I didn't feel like you were trying to #solve. It felt like you were trying to make yourself look good. That's how I see it and I will call it.

 

Blue: I don't play that way, and you should know that. But that is a very easy excuse as scum to use to OMGUS someone :)

[Cory Caboose]

Mish read back like two pages to my post on Lenlo and tell me what you think

[michellem]

I read it, but I don't agree with it. Sometimes that happens you know :P

[Cory Caboose]

I'm not asking you to agree with me :p

 

Just wanted to see if you read it

[Cory Caboose]

I really don't like any of the wagons tbh

 

Think we are moving in the wrong direction and there are probably wolves in the people nobody is really discussing

[Lenlo]

 

 

I don't feel good about Len. His ISO on Talya and posting post counts and such feels like trying to look helpful and engaged and like he's #solving, instead of having to add actual content.

Bold - Yeah, cause the last like 10-15 pages of discussion about Eldrick, Talya, Ocicat and other such topics with Sili and other people wasnt actually me. It was just someone else with the same name as me in this game that no one knows about. Seriously? Your going to ignore everything else ive done and say I am not contributing to this game? Thats a BS reason to vote and looks to me like your just trying to hop onto an easy train of a player that is historically easy to lynch. FOS Mish. FOS.

 

Yes. After reading through all your posts, I didn't feel like you were trying to #solve. It felt like you were trying to make yourself look good. That's how I see it and I will call it.

 

Blue: I don't play that way, and you should know that. But that is a very easy excuse as scum to use to OMGUS someone :)

 

OMGUS, sure. I havnt played mafia here in months Mish. You coulda completely changed. So im gonna take this game and this game only into consideration and so far this game you have made minimal game contributions and your only vote is weak.

 

You dont think im trying to solve anything? Please explain. Give me some details. Cause atm your just being vague and vagueness is really easy to hide behind.

[Niniel]

Got a little time to make this post.

 

In the past I have been able to read Sili well but I haven´t played with him in a long time. From the start he looked town, jumping all around. Then I was starting to think that he was setting up platforms for future lynches. But then I really liked his vote on Ocicat. I think post 342 was good and also that he questioned Celeste. I didn´t like Ocicat´s answer. I will +1 Sili´s reasons and 

 

[unvote]

 

[v] Ocicat [/v]

 

 

 

 

 

Something about Leelou-Verbal-CoryKey-Talya seems strange. 

 

1. Cory mentions mafia could have had four days to chat. I don´t think that shows any alignment.

2. Leelou votes him for possible tmi. That seemed like a weak vote.

3. Then Cory gets annoyed and, after getting permission from Kivam, says that he and Key has shared a qt for four days.

4. Leelou then asks Verbal what he thinks about that. Not strange that he asks him of his oppinion but...

5. Verbal then says that (basically) annoyed Cory is town. And then Leelou unvote and say that she wanted to clear Cory early. 

 

I thought the vote in itself was weak but she is now townreading Cory because of this. It seems like a bit too easy. 

 

But then we have Talya that didn´t want Leelou to vote or mention anything so that Cory could have revealed more (?? I think that is what she means.) She says that this doesn´t look good for Leelou. What does this mean? That she thinks Cory was mafia and Leelou too? Leelou thinks Talya jumped on it too quick. Talya said that she did so because Leelou never gave a reason to begin with. (But when she did, she didn´t think Leelou should have mentioned it.) 

 

Cory: what do you think about Leelou, Verbal and Talya?

Leelou: what do you think about Talya?

Talya: What do you think about Leelou? 

Verb: What do you think about Leelou and Talya? 

 

I usually don´t ask questions like this but it seems like it was a "knot" that has been left unsolved. (At least to me.)

 

 

 

Sooh looks town to me so far. I think she answered Snow good when he questioned her in the beginning. 

[Leelou]

 

 

Interesting. Cory hinting at mafia having had the opportunity to talk before the game started, and then Talya immediately suggesting that Sili and I have staged our conversation. That's convenient.

And then Leelou responding "Mhm".

 

But this only on the basis right now of seeing Leelou as being the scummier of Talya vs. Leelou.

 

How does Leelou normally play? Reading back I see a lot of off-topic joking posts, helpful posts/answering questions, the vote for Cory, the back and forth with Tal and then the switch to voting for Tal.

 

Both of her votes look relatively "safe" to me, i.e. voting for Cory because of the 4 day head start post (which is an easy target), and voting for Talya because Talya was pressing her. From the interaction, as I said earlier, I find Tal to actually be leaning more towards town, which makes me read Leelou as being slightly scummier. Then your bringing up that bit against Talya and her agreeing with you could be a scum on scum interaction, trying to frame Tal.

 

Not a heck of a lot to go on, as you can see, but I don't have a clear town on you from anywhere, which is why I'd like to hear Cory's thought process.

I'm not voting for anyone?

[michellem]

 

 

 

I don't feel good about Len. His ISO on Talya and posting post counts and such feels like trying to look helpful and engaged and like he's #solving, instead of having to add actual content.

Bold - Yeah, cause the last like 10-15 pages of discussion about Eldrick, Talya, Ocicat and other such topics with Sili and other people wasnt actually me. It was just someone else with the same name as me in this game that no one knows about. Seriously? Your going to ignore everything else ive done and say I am not contributing to this game? Thats a BS reason to vote and looks to me like your just trying to hop onto an easy train of a player that is historically easy to lynch. FOS Mish. FOS.

 

Yes. After reading through all your posts, I didn't feel like you were trying to #solve. It felt like you were trying to make yourself look good. That's how I see it and I will call it.

 

Blue: I don't play that way, and you should know that. But that is a very easy excuse as scum to use to OMGUS someone :)

 

OMGUS, sure. I havnt played mafia here in months Mish. You coulda completely changed. So im gonna take this game and this game only into consideration and so far this game you have made minimal game contributions and your only vote is weak.

 

You dont think im trying to solve anything? Please explain. Give me some details. Cause atm your just being vague and vagueness is really easy to hide behind.

 

 

I last played a full game in december. I subbed D4 in the HP mafia in July and well you know how long I stayed in the TUS mafia. And yes, I haven't contributed much yet. I said in signups I wouldn't be able to have normal activity this week. But I'm trying now aight.

 

How many times do you want me to say the same thing? Your posts don't look to me like you are trying to find mafia. They look like you are trying to look town. That is how I see your posts. I don't know how much better than that I can explain really... If you don't understand that then *shrug*

 

And there you go with the easy to hide behind again. That's not a good look.

[michellem]

BTW: "Easy to hide behind" is my favourite argument to use when I'm mafia. It's such a nice way to make others look weak and yourself look like you are actually trying to case someone.

[Lenlo]

I was more asking for examples rather than the blanket statement your throwing out right now about me.

 

Also I dont care what your favorite argument is when your mafia. Im not casing you. Im asking you to be clearer, to give me something to work with other than a blanket statement. I dont think thats unreasonable. 

[Shad_]

VOTE COUNT

 

Sili (1) - KeyBOOSE

John Snow (2) - Ocicat, Dicetosser

Eldrick (1)  - Lenlo

Ocicat (3) - Sili, Eldrick, TinaHel

Lenlo (3) - Talya, John Snow, Misheru

 

Not voting (7): Songstress, Leelou, Verbal, Taborline, Pralaya, Wishleste, Sooh

 

9 to lynch

[Leelou]

@Tina - I'll answer you in depth when I get a chance to ISO her. Right now, slightly uneasy which means she's most likely town. 

[keyholder21]

Ok, am here while toddler is napping. On mobile.

[keyholder21]

Going against my better judgment (because I have burned by him twice), I am going to say that Len appears to be town here. He's playing right now as if he doesn't mind the attention, which would be highly abnormal for scum!Len.

[keyholder21]

@Tina - do you want my thoughts too, or specifically only Cory?

 

Regardless, I am going to gice them to you .

 

Need more from Verb, but it's the weekend, so that will have to wait.

 

I like Lee's play so far. I mentioned it earlier, but she's involved and not jumping on easy bait, imo.

 

Tal seemed slightly wolfy to me when I stopped reading before. I'll have to see if she's said anything new that sticks outm