Belichick - Mafia Eternal Night

seph · July 15, 2015

my spoiler won't appear blue :(

Verbal32 · July 15, 2015

my spoiler won't appear blue :(

I edited it for you - manually insert tags and it works fine within spoilers. :-)

Thane Vakarian · July 15, 2015

so, here's a question:

is it possible that verb/aj was town/town and the two wolves are .. let's say... Talya and Dice?

thoughts?

Andrej · July 15, 2015

so, here's a question:

is it possible that verb/aj was town/town and the two wolves are .. let's say... Talya and Dice?

thoughts?

Why not you and Zander?

Or Talya/Zander?

Pretty much don't think Dice is a wolf here and I'm sticking to that.

There's two between you, Talya and Zander.

BFG · July 15, 2015

Not sure I can face another Zander ISO tonight.

Thane Vakarian · July 15, 2015

because i know i'm town... i'm no wolf

Talya/Zander unlikely due to the way Zander has been going on about her all game imo

Thane Vakarian · July 15, 2015

@AJ: so this was all town/town between verb and you?

Andrej · July 15, 2015

Not sure what time it is over with you guys, not really liking AJs disappearance here without answering about who he'd rather(?) be voting

Had to leave for work, I'm on break now which is also about to be over.

I doubt I would've moved my vote in that situation as it was - I was just stating something that occurred to me that gave me bad vibes. Since Laine's lynch the game has progressed like 15 pages, if that.

With Verb confirmed I really dislike how Zander/Talya both sat on the wagon all day but continued to bicker at each other. Thane still making me want to lynch him with his posts.

Idk - there's 2 out of the three and I don't think we see a NK tonight so we're back to the same place tomorrow.

Andrej · July 15, 2015

@AJ: so this was all town/town between verb and you?

Apparently.

Andrej · July 15, 2015

because i know i'm town... i'm no wolf

Talya/Zander unlikely due to the way Zander has been going on about her all game imo

So why would Dice/Laine be likely then?

Thane Vakarian · July 15, 2015

very good question which i can not answer from memory completely....

if i remember correctly, dice was going after Laine this game. Perhaps early distancing, and now he's not really involved, staying off radar, not really gamesolving. Not suspicious because he sorta got cleared because of going after Laine? Would be a solid tactic. Laine goes down, dice cleared till endgame

dicetosser1 · July 15, 2015

3rd attempt to post this

so, here's a question:

is it possible that verb/aj was town/town and the two wolves are .. let's say... Talya and Dice?

thoughts?

No cause im town and the way you worded that is legit bad thane. you looking for mislynch options?

@BFG re Verb id really appreciate you looking over the Verb stuff. Not what HE said but why people voted him who pushed the treain along that sorta stuff. I know I voted him D2 but things changed in my head today.

Once he started talking he made some good points. the longer i looked at it the more it seemed to me that the verb lynch was too easy. There wasnt enuff gameplay reasons for it. It seemed to boil down to that vote on rand and nothing else. But I wanted to hear more from him. He had a point that AJ told him to stay the course and he did....but AJ didnt. Yes he could have read up and made up his own mind but when u are in catch up mode that doesnt really happen.

His points about AJ townleading was something I have concerns over. Ive seen him do it before as both town and scum but the time i saw it as scum I had issues with it and didnt speak up i just trusted him and got bit. He has been townleading here so i am watching.

As verb and AJ were going back and forth I found myself nodding along with Verb not AJ. I ended up feeling like i did with Rand I suddenly felt he was going to flip town. only way i was hammering verb was last minute

regarding AJ im very much where i think you are I THINK he is town but its THINK not IS and that worries me.

I still think we lynch Zander. He has tried saying he is the same as before but he isnt. I think it was you BFG talking to talya that said the frustration was missing. As soon as you said that a lightbulb appeared over my head. it was exactly right.

Thane I keep waffling on. I wouldnt be OPPOSED to a thane lynch. Every now and then he does something like what i quoted above and then theres this

very good question which i can not answer from memory completely....

if i remember correctly, dice was going after Laine this game. Perhaps early distancing, and now he's not really involved, staying off radar, not really gamesolving. Not suspicious because he sorta got cleared because of going after Laine? Would be a solid tactic. Laine goes down, dice cleared till endgame

Now hes not the first to bring this idea up but seriously?? I bus my teammate with my second post of the game? Nu Uh! Im not that suicidal. Its also not a great play for scum and town thinking knows that.

Andrej · July 16, 2015

Hitting the road soon. I'll try to be around when I can during the vacation but it'll be difficult.

Sucks how the last two days turned out and I take my responsibility in that but this game isn't over yet. I doubt we get any info from night because wolves may be out of shots so we're likely beginning again where we are now.

What I do believe is that there are two wolves in Zander/Talya/Thane but we can't afford to be wrong again because no one but the scum team know if they have shots left and it's safer for us to assume they do.

At this point I don't think it's a bad idea to not rule anything out. I'm really bugged how both Zander and Talya have been on both these past two lynches despite scum reading each other the entire time. I don't feel particularly comfortable with Thane at this point either though. If we start next phase with six alive then wolves can't speed hammer unless someone reaches two votes so I would suggest keeping the wagons low and generating a lot of talk. I would like to see a reads list from everyone - the more detailed the better. I will try to get one up tonight when we stop or tomorrow before we drive again but no promises. At least I've got a two day trip to mull this over :dry:

BFG · July 16, 2015

Another read through is going to have to wait until tonight.

Dice can you explain why your opinion changed on Thane so completely? You had him as one of your top 2 townies, then a suspect following Day phase.

BFG · July 16, 2015

Good luck in your exam Talya :)

Have a good trip AJ!

BFG · July 16, 2015

If it's AJ/its likely AJ/Zander, I doubt it's AJ/Talya, but need to check that out again. Bonus points to anyone who can figure out why I think that :P

I do like AJs point about Zander/Talya though, definitely needs considering.

BFG · July 16, 2015

Thane/Dice if you were having doubts about the Verb lynch why weren't you louder earlier. Dice, why didn't you vote someone else when you didn't vote Verb earlier?

BFG · July 16, 2015

I kind of want to lock Thane in as town and go from there. I still think Dice is likely townie so I think lynch pool is Zander/Talya/AJ (in no particular order)

I guess we wait for day and see if mafia had one or two shots left...

BFG · July 16, 2015

Dice/Thane I do want to hear reasons you suspect each other.

BFG · July 16, 2015

General question, why did Rands lynch fail Day 1?

dicetosser1 · July 16, 2015

thanes driving me nuts. I see town thane but every now and then he does something weird like i said earlier. i keep waffling which probably means he is town.

Part of it is his suspicion on me i feel like he should have seen enuff to have me clear

as for speaking up it was my thinking after i held off voting but i wasnt able to get on before lynch. in hindsight i should have voted zander instead of just suggesting a cfd

Talya · July 16, 2015

Hitting the road soon. I'll try to be around when I can during the vacation but it'll be difficult.

Sucks how the last two days turned out and I take my responsibility in that but this game isn't over yet. I doubt we get any info from night because wolves may be out of shots so we're likely beginning again where we are now.

What I do believe is that there are two wolves in Zander/Talya/Thane but we can't afford to be wrong again because no one but the scum team know if they have shots left and it's safer for us to assume they do.

At this point I don't think it's a bad idea to not rule anything out. I'm really bugged how both Zander and Talya have been on both these past two lynches despite scum reading each other the entire time. I don't feel particularly comfortable with Thane at this point either though. If we start next phase with six alive then wolves can't speed hammer unless someone reaches two votes so I would suggest keeping the wagons low and generating a lot of talk. I would like to see a reads list from everyone - the more detailed the better. I will try to get one up tonight when we stop or tomorrow before we drive again but no promises. At least I've got a two day trip to mull this over

I haven't Zander as wolf all game he was null before. As for leaving my vote I haven't had the time to look at thing like you and BFG. I have now completed the exam and so will now be able to get the time, to go through things.

Thanks BFG...it was horrendous and I won't know the results for 6 weeks, so don't know if I have to re take or not (?not sure if I could this again).

AJ and Verb did my head in before the lynch. Now I have time I need to go over that again. I did think that yesterday was mostly BFG and AJ, with Verb. I don't remember too much from others so will need to go over that to. But I now have my life back again.

seph · July 16, 2015

IT is now day

May the odds be in your favor!

Darthe · July 16, 2015

IT is now day

May the odds be in your favor!

Talya · July 16, 2015

ISO one - DICE

Been through his day 1 stuff. We all know about the Alanna vote. I can't see mafia doing this on Day 1, but then it wasn't as though people were going to vote there on day1 she was on the table.

Had AJ and Yates as town

Alanna as Wolf, and didn't like Hally much.

I liked Dice day 1 he really looked like town. Not everyone agreed with his vote on Alanna, but his play is pretty good town Dice, especially compared to ME game.

There was a no lynch day 1.

But then Day 2

He comes in with his vote on Alanna Straight away

Im a happy camper at the mo cause im pretty sure I have my Town boys in the house. AJ and Yates if you dont know who im talking about.

Scum I still dont like LAine. It was the tone of her response to me compared to how she had responded to others, then there was a bit where she was trying to lay the blame on me. Also not feeling Hally. Much more aggressive and im not liking what shes put out on thane

Looks like it's up to us to avenge Yates. What are some of your other reads besides me/Laine and I presume Thane (as town based on what I snipped from this post) ?r, on 08 Jul 2015 - 02:30 AM, said:

@Dice, Any new reads? Other than AJ/Laine?

Why are you asking Dice specifically here?

Red Im happy with talya actually.

BFG i cant make my mind up on but am leaning town a bit

there was something about shad that i didnt like but i cant remember what it was exactly.

Blue shes like the third or fourth person to do it. Laine did which makes sense Talya did I think Shad did which may be what im not remembering.

AJ if you iso me it will take about 3 minutes bro. Ive been slack

Laine has done nothing to change my thinking

vote Laine

not much else here, but keeps his vote D2 and we know how that ends.

Doing the next in another post, quoting screwing it all up again.

Belichick - Mafia Eternal Night

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