[Advanced] Star Wars Mafia

[Darthe]

 

Oh you haven't read EoD at all AJ?  Yeah this game is prob confusing as hell to you atm then.  GLGL

 

If you put AJ and me together, you get 1 complete reading of the thread.

 

And two wildly different sets of opinions.  It's been a pretty good read tbh.

[Darthe]

Inb4 cop views Darthe N1 

[Clovdyx]

 

 

Oh you haven't read EoD at all AJ?  Yeah this game is prob confusing as hell to you atm then.  GLGL

 

If you put AJ and me together, you get 1 complete reading of the thread.

 

That's cute. Have you read the front of the game yet?

 

 

Nope.  I've reviewed a few specific players, so I've gotten bits and pieces of it, but I haven't gone back to put everything in order yet.  And I'm not planning on doing so.

[alannalynn]

Nope.  I've reviewed a few specific players, so I've gotten bits and pieces of it, but I haven't gone back to put everything in order yet.  And I'm not planning on doing so.

At least you're honest

 

This ice cream is going to make me so sick later but I don't even care. I probably need to eat real food though. It's past dinnertime

[Clovdyx]

 

 

Oh you haven't read EoD at all AJ?  Yeah this game is prob confusing as hell to you atm then.  GLGL

 

If you put AJ and me together, you get 1 complete reading of the thread.

 

And two wildly different sets of opinions.  It's been a pretty good read tbh.

 

 

I'm not sure so about.  I don't want to assume what his take is going on everyone is going to be once he gets caught up, but the "hindsight reads" he gave during his catch up posts don't look largely different than where I'm at.  A few minor discrepancies, sure, but nothing to write home about.

[Darthe]

 

 

 

Oh you haven't read EoD at all AJ?  Yeah this game is prob confusing as hell to you atm then.  GLGL

 

If you put AJ and me together, you get 1 complete reading of the thread.

 

And two wildly different sets of opinions.  It's been a pretty good read tbh.

 

 

I'm not sure so about.  I don't want to assume what his take is going on everyone is going to be once he gets caught up, but the "hindsight reads" he gave during his catch up posts don't look largely different than where I'm at.  A few minor discrepancies, sure, but nothing to write home about.

 

I thought ya'll differed a fairly large amount

[Shad_]

I'm starting to hate these lists because there is never really a clean order to it, but this is kind of where I'm at now.  If I got the colors wrong whatever:

 

Seph

Laine
Durin
Eldrick

 

Zander

Sili

Wombocombo

Csarmi

Sooh

Clov

Yates

Dice

NotBob

Talya

Thaneballs32

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AH -- Doubt she's mafia.  Town or maybe serial killer?

[Shad_]

break after Eldrick is totally random

[Shad_]

Dice basically tunneled Darthe sufficiently for everyone to clear him and then packed his bags.

[Andrej]

Clov - can I assume you found those posts you quote on pg 94 in Laine's ISO?

 

I'm okay with you rescinding it when Sili corrected you and overall I think the observations was Clovian

 

but that CFD was pretty AIDS though, honestly.

[Sili Quirrels]

agree. clovian is the right word.

[Andrej]

I'm almost done with EOD. I'm probably gonna end up deleting the Darthe posts I disliked after seeing the Leelou lynch in real time - but still - as a friend and fellow player I would ask you tone it down some, Darthe. Or perhaps a better way to say it would be to rein yourself in. I think you make yourself look more wolfy than you estimate with the impulsiveness in some of your posts and defense such as being the highest poster and playing in the moment aren't gonna fly for you.

 

Thus far before you turned on Leelou you voted all of Laine, AH, ThaneBalls and Tayla. Understand how this reflects on you in retrospect in a game where bussing is a real thing and a component that I know exists in your wolf game.

 

I'm gonna drop this now but moving forward please keep this in mind for the sake of cooperation.

[Darthe]

With some I'd be obstinate about that.  I'll say that I recognize that in the process of flying off the wall I'm going to always cast some suspicion on myself, such is the nature of performing like that.  However I worry that by reigning it in I won't maintain my edge here.  It's certainly easy to critique all of this as flinging crap to see what sticks but it can be argued that most of the things I get to have a basis in thread and often others come to the same conclusions later on.  

 

So what I'm saying is that for me I don't know if it is a good idea to stop when I get in the zone like this.  It's potentially aggravating but it seems effective.

[alannalynn]

 

It's potentially aggravating but it seems effective.

Yup

 

I've been trying to look past the aggravating nature of you and that seems to help for the most part

[Shad_]

Thane has made 50 posts in this game.  Here are all 14 that actually mention the game in any way, shape, or form.  Keep in mind that Verbal has 35 total posts and reads Leelou as strong town.  I'll dig that all up next.  I imagine more of you have ISO'd him:

 

 

 

ftr, i'm not trusting Darthe... only figured him out too late last game

 

 

p8, says he's not going to trust Darthe

 

 

 

nice... i feel like this game will be hard to keep up.. But, anyways, i'm here. 

 

What i don't like is Csarmi's claim so early, and nobody really doubting it.... 'It's in his town-meta', 'he always does that' etc... don't like it.. 

 

do agree with Csarmageddon there that it's a bit early to wonder how many wolves there are... let's worry about finding the first one and connecting things from there. 

 

*hands Zander coffee*

 

@work, so i'll try to keep reading up

 

 

p14, thinks Csarmi's Hated claim is scummy.

 

 

 

alright, so.... re-reading a bit.. this entire Sooh/Heart/Leelou/Laine thing seems off for this early D1... perhaps it'll clarify later, when we hear more from Sooh, but.... it smells off.... 

 

 

p15, vague dislike for the "Sooh/Heart/Leelou/Laine thing"

 

 

 

*offers Leelou a nice big cup of coffee*

 

fwiw, i'm going to wait out the interaction bewteen AJ and Seph a bit.... 

 

 

p16, acknowledges a scrum between AJ and Seph which, as AJ pointed out, never really existed.  Has no comment on it, just acknowledges it.

 

 

 

 

 

Zander, i don't get how that would be towny or not, could be both.... 

 

most certainly could be but as a new player its a comfortable and casual response.  not sure a new maf player makes that comment.  i think he would elaborate at least a bit imo.

 

yeah.... i'm not planning to hand new players a get-out-of-jail-free-card. That can get you into trouble.

 

 

 

p16, vague comments that Zander should be hesitant to trust me

 

 

 

 

 

the joys of a big game with hydras right?

You're current. How do you think verb is doing so far?

Joys of hydra, right?

 

We'd probably curse at eachother if one or the other screws up. Been a while since i played hydra, so i'm actually enjoying this. 

 

Verb did say that he'd save us D1 and i could basically take it from D2, but i try to be in here still. 

 

Darthe... you have a love/hate relationship with Zander, right?

 

 

 

p22, vaguely links Darthe to Zander

 

 

 

@Darthe: everybody still is a potential wolf this game. I'm a bit skeptical with people clearing eachother this early in the game. 

 

took me more than 5 minutes to get the bloody page to reload, bloody firewalls at work... 

 

 

p30, doesn't like that anybody has had anything good to say about anybody, I guess?  :???:

 

 

 

ya know Eldrick, being honest... i have to ask you: Why would you specifically add the last part?

 

 

p31, doesn't like Eldrick's comment that the only time he knew Darthe's alignment was the time Eldrick was scum

 

 

 

ffs.... 15 minutes to log back into DM.... 

 

@Shad: for the moment i haven't cleared anybody yet, and am keeping my eye out for anything that would look out of the ordinary. People standing out: Seph (don't know if he is wolf or playing bad); Darthe (because, yeah, i can't figure him out)... and the people who have a low postcount up untill now. Slacking wolves are dangerous early in the game, harder to find.

 

 

p31, I've said Thane never responded to this question.  I stand corrected.  I asked him if anybody stood out to him yet.  He names Seph, doesn't trust Darthe for his reason on page 8, and criticizes people with low post counts

 

 

 

Darthe's activity to me is not allignment indicative

 

 

p31, doesn't trust Darthe for his reason on page 8

 

 

 

Personally, still interested in Darthe/Turin. Having a hard time figuring that one out. Also on my suspect list are: Seph (bad game or wolf), the low posters... and i rely on Verb to read Leelou, i can never clear her D1....

 

Also would like to point out that i still don't like Csarmi's claim... too convenient.... 

 

 

p35, doesn't trust Darthe for his reason on page 8, restates that he doesn't like Csarmi's Hated claim or Seph

 

 

 

yes.. *hands one*

 

some impressions: Good catch on Leelou. Currently page 90ish, and so far i had no clue on her. Trying to make sense of EOD, but it's really a mingling of votes and people all around. It's going to be madness for me to make any sense out of that. *nudges Verbal* Some help would be nice?

 

 

p114, "had no clue" that Leelou could have been wolf, finds EoD very confusing

 

 

 

ok... people appearantly said that Heart is town when Leelou flips wolf... still the case?

 

 

p114, asks if we still think AH is town

[Shad_]

Do I even need to summarize this crap?

[Hallia]

Daytime imminent.  

[alannalynn]

*twiddling of thumbs intensifies*

[Andrej]

Okay - I'm up to pg 108 now which is where I started posting last night.

 

Last MQ 

 

 

 

 

 

 

@ Darthe - Do you think Leelou is a bad lynch?

ATM yes, very much so.

 

Because of Laine or other reasons too?

 

Smh. See what I'm saying Darthe? Obviously this is in hindsight and I wasn't here in the moment with you - but this is the sort of stuff a wolf would eat up to discredit you. Kinda like how Turin did me in the last game

 

I never actually said anything at all about Thaneballs today actually.  Thane bugged me because the one time we were both online he kind of ignored me as soon as I stopped making small talk with him and asked him about his reads.  Verbal, I found his town game very informative last game (I even mentioned I was surprised Laine didn't doc protect him N2 after she came out) and here I mostly see struggles to keep up, positive comments about players who are on most people's town lists, eventually a 'strong' town list that doesn't offer much explanation even though it included someone on the chopping block.... 

 

I think your bolded statement could have some merit. Overall I have that slot largely as null but I can see your perspective here and it aligns with some other interactions you had them with earlier in the Day phase. Consistency is a good look.

 

Can you just all follow me and if I'm wrong vig me or something?

[unvote]
[v] thaneballs [/v]

 

Another one that wasn't on Leelou before the final minutes. Come on Darthe...

 

Zander this is only going to lead somewhere once I get some more info. Til then today is guesswork because town has by and large sucked

 

Granted this post is pretty villagery and adds more plausibility to your seemingly random vote moves.

 

I think we find a wolf in heart/leelou
I wouldn't mind voting thaneballs
can darthe and zander give me thoughts on notbob please?
[unvote]

 

Looks good for Seph - his vote being the swaying one in the final minutes was pretty clutch too.

 

I was gonna let AJ respond to it, but he's been kinda scarce.  I'm not interested in apportioning blame so much as trying to find the wolves I think were pushing the idea.  It's part of why I wanted to lynch Laine, so it's not like I'm tunneling you on it.  I don't like the way it went down and so everyone who was involved is suspect to me.

 

Kinda like how Leelou was starting to. You were on the right track here, brosef, for the most part.

 

 

 

Would a wolf Verbal post this?  I don't know what he's capable of, but I do see a few pretty town posts in the mix.

 

Wolf Verbal is capable of anything.  That being said, I don't think he's particularly wolfy so far this game.

 

Have to agree. Verb has made some posts that I thought were villagery but I don't see him as outside of his wolf range by any means yet.

 

[v] Unvote vote talya [/v]

 

lol

 

I think I'm lead train now. Go Laine or something, this is as right as we are gonna get

 

Pick a or Laine, I'll allow eother

 

 

well it was a little ways back.

leelou who is more likely a wolf ah or alanna?
are you voting for self preservation?

 

I think this sort of questioning is another positive sign for Seph. Shows that he was really trying to process his read on Leelou before making the decision to vote her. Leelou's response was pretty bad too imo. Wish I had quoted it, dunno why I hadn't but whatever.

 

Thought I was on your wolf list

 

ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL

[uNVOTE][V] LEELOU [/V]

 

You were, but I'm not liking the way this lynch is going down. It feels slimy. 

 

Literally your saving grace.

 

Leelou's response is just so... awkward. Unnatural? Idk how to describe it but it doesn't read genuine at all. Maybe she thought you'd save her and vote Laine over her in that situation?

 

I don't understand what you're saying.  You said on the 18th that you liked Sooh's summary posts, as well as AH's.  Everything I quoted was EVERYTHING AH had posted in the game to that point.  

 

When I made my post before, I didn't look at timestamps so I assumed it was in reference to the large one you quoted (made by AH today).  Sili pointed out that was impossible, as AH's post hadn't been made at the time of your quote.  He's objectively correct about that, but that means you made your statement about liking AH's summary posts about....nothing.

 

I think the literalness of how you're casing here looks sort of bad, if that makes sense. Like - I felt what Laine was saying there was fairly obvious with a little thought applied to it.

 

Leia is a better shot than a stormtrooper (which is saying a lot? jk) and is pretty resourceful *shrug*

Looking sexy in a bikini...is that my power? 

 

Btw - I saw people bringing up AH's post above as weird and I'm pretty sure it was in response to Leelou's post that I quoted below it. I'm taking it as a joke.

 

 

Leia would not be a Vt in an advanced game

 

I disagree.

 

[v]Laine[/v]

 

These posts look okay for Sili - not trying to game him but he said some stuff earlier that I think is consistent with his thought process here, or at least my perception of what I think he's thinking.

 

Don't care one way or the other about leelou, but verb says she's probably town.

 

That said this is legit terrible tho.

 

[v] leelou[/v]

 

Game changer. 

 

[unvote]

[v]Leelou[/v]

 

GOAT.

 

 

Yeah my vote sucked, but in my defense I was learning how to yell really loud from some old guys who live on a mountain.

 

I think this is a reference, and I wish I got it. :(

 

Skyrim, breh.

 

 

 

 

 

[Shad_]

^ AJ, second quote in your post, I corrected myself when I ISO'd Thane bottom of p132

[Hallia]

The alarm that signaled the start of the day woke everyone aboard the ship.  It was the second day of meetings for some of the most important people in the universe.  When everyone was assembled they noticed that there were two missing.  A quick search of the ship revealed two bodies.  One was easily recognizable, but the other was little more than ash.

 

Clov - Admiral Ackbar - Vanilla Town has been killed!

 

 

Durin has been killed!

 

 

 

It is now Day 2!  Due to the holiday the deadline for Day 2 is set for Tuesday, June 23rd at 7pm PST.  With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.  

[seph]

I set my alarm so I could see this... and Durin doesn't have a alignment or role??

I am confused

[Shad_]

Well that's one name out of my null pile.

[Shad_]

I set my alarm so I could see this... and Durin doesn't have a alignment or role??

I am confused

 

I'm confused too.  I wonder if doc save prevented the mafia nk and Darthe was serial killer.

 

And I know who I would have doc saved so maybe a lot of us are on the same page here.

[Aiel Heart]

...Did I seriously finish catching up just in time for day to hit?

 

Ok, it is 1:15 am, I was ready for bed around 11, and my brain officially checked out around page 125. Will analyze everything in light  of day in the morning 

 

Something to add to the discussion a few pages ago(127ish?)—Leelou was my second choice anyway—look where I did vote dice. I think I remember choosing him because I thought he’d give more information at that point, including information about Leelou. 

Also, I noted somewhere at EoD that Leelou tends to try to push me when she’s wolf (seems to be missing from Darthe’s mega quotes of EoD). Can grab evidence of that from a QT if need be. 

 

Also, Shad, do you still want to ask me something? If it can wait until tomorrow, I would REALLY like sleep now.