Pokemon Mafia IV: The Mystery of Heart Island--GAME OVER--TEAM ROCKET WIN

[Turin Turambar]

 

so, something i've been wondering while reading the thread:

 

- How many members would Team Rocket have? 3 or 4?  

- is a third party likely, or not?

- where is Firebird (slot3)?

 

-snip-

 

 

Mafia is usually 30-40%, so 4-6 members.

We have no basis for guessing if there is or isn't 3rd party yet. No reason to even bring it up. FoS. 

Firebird = EP

 

25-33% is standard. which would be more like 4. maybe 5 tops.

[John Snow]

Huh I though I remembered it being higher. Take their word on it over mine. (Or, hey, Turin you could just tell us how many people are on your team )

 

Also, Turin, could you post a reads list? 

[Turin Turambar]

 

 

 

 

Also, just putting this out here - do you people think that mafia has a certain kill, or would they have to kill through moves too?

I'm expecting that they will need to kill through moves.

 

Oh. even though I expect it to be a move, I also believe it will have a high chance of working.

 

This feels like TMI. Not sure if it is more likely Ley for bringing it up or Eldrick for carrying the ball.  Especially interjecting the higher chance of success bit. like playing both sides of the street. 

 

I would expect the mafia team kill to be separate from any other abilities individual players have.  

 

Also I saw it noted about my activity level. Sometimes there are other things more important than internet games. 

 

 

 

I didn't say you weren't here, quite the opposite. You pop in every once in a while with fluff posts like this, instead of real, helpful, scumhunting posts. 

 

Being present had nothing to do with my activity level, or my alignment if you want to try to go there. I was not feeling like playing. So my full effort has not been put to the game as yet. So again "Deal with it". Find 7 other people to lynch me if you think you can. 

 

As for calling this post fluff. Just because there is a picture in it does not mean it is all fluff. What is your opinion of the interchange between Ley and Eldrick? Why did you think it was important to "joke vote" the MOD to start the game?

 

Why are you elevating the number of not town to be expected in the game? Do you know something the rest of us don't?

[Turin Turambar]

REads list in full will have to wait until later.

 

My perfectly happy to lynch list goes something like this at present.

 

Snow

Zander

Ley

Eldrick

Thane

EP

 

 

not WTL today

 

Darthe

Ithi / Her replacement

Dice

Mashi - basically due to noob pass

[Turin Turambar]

Huh I though I remembered it being higher. Take their word on it over mine. (Or, hey, Turin you could just tell us how many people are on your team )

 

Also, Turin, could you post a reads list? 

 

I don't know how many other townies are out there.

 

John, I think you should probably start posting funny cat pictures. The bolded is a projection joke like the one you made to Ithi last game about the QT.

 

[unvote]

[v] John Snow [/v]

[John Snow]

 

 

 

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This feels like TMI. Not sure if it is more likely Ley for bringing it up or Eldrick for carrying the ball.  Especially interjecting the higher chance of success bit. like playing both sides of the street. 

 

I would expect the mafia team kill to be separate from any other abilities individual players have.  

 

Also I saw it noted about my activity level. Sometimes there are other things more important than internet games. 

 

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I didn't say you weren't here, quite the opposite. You pop in every once in a while with fluff posts like this, instead of real, helpful, scumhunting posts. 

 

Being present had nothing to do with my activity level, or my alignment if you want to try to go there. I was not feeling like playing. So my full effort has not been put to the game as yet. So again "Deal with it". Find 7 other people to lynch me if you think you can. 

 

As for calling this post fluff. Just because there is a picture in it does not mean it is all fluff. What is your opinion of the interchange between Ley and Eldrick? Why did you think it was important to "joke vote" the MOD to start the game?

 

Why are you elevating the number of not town to be expected in the game? Do you know something the rest of us don't?

 

 

 

If you were posting elsewhere then it would have no bearing on the game. You want to not play the game, then use a different thread for that. 

At the point at which you are posting in this game, your posts are involved with your alignment. 

Fluffing looks like you coasting by, trying to escape under everyone's radar. 

 

The whole point of voting and casing you is that I think you are scum. So, yes, I think eventually people will come around to my way of thinking.

 

I don't like the exchange. It was stupid and gave mafia information. That said, my gut says that it wasn't scummy. 

 

And I thought I remembered scum being 30-40%. 25% seems to low as I think if town lynches someone completely random every day, they win with 25%. Games (iirc) are balanced so town has to effectively scumhunt to win. 

[John Snow]

 

Huh I though I remembered it being higher. Take their word on it over mine. (Or, hey, Turin you could just tell us how many people are on your team )

 

Also, Turin, could you post a reads list? 

 

I don't know how many other townies are out there.

 

John, I think you should probably start posting funny cat pictures. The bolded is a projection joke like the one you made to Ithi last game about the QT.

 

[unvote]

[v] John Snow [/v]

 

 

OMGUS harder bro.

[Turin Turambar]

 

 

We didn't have an N0 peek but because that's not a thing this game but it doesn't matter because I'm a day cop and got an innocent result on Ithi just now.

Looking back, surprised I missed it. Thoughts on this?

It's to back his attempt to lead town. I'll explain more on this when I get home.

 

I wanna get back to this. Why did you think it was a bad thing for Darthe to lead the town? did you have a mafia read on him independent of his town leading attempts? I don't see anything other than a little bit of a "gut feel".  I haven't seen him trying to put himself above the fray. He may be playing it cool as far as that goes but it isn't looking that way presently. 

 

I know that you have calmed your gut . Do you think it a good idea to let him lead the town now?

[Turin Turambar]

 

 

Huh I though I remembered it being higher. Take their word on it over mine. (Or, hey, Turin you could just tell us how many people are on your team )

 

Also, Turin, could you post a reads list? 

 

I don't know how many other townies are out there.

 

John, I think you should probably start posting funny cat pictures. The bolded is a projection joke like the one you made to Ithi last game about the QT.

 

[unvote]

[v] John Snow [/v]

 

 

OMGUS harder bro.

 

Wrong again. I had you as a mafia read waaaaaay before you decide to come at me. Check your facts. My vote on Zander was for competing trains as he was the next best bet IMO. But a maf in the hand is worth two competing trains. 

 

just google Ihazcheeseburger and you will find plenty of funny cat pictures to post. 

[Darthe]

Turin is prob town this game.

 

@Turin, a wtl/nwtl list is different from a town/not town list.  I'd love to see one of those from you.

[Darthe]

John Snow, if you're town who is the wolf on your train?

[John Snow]

 

 

 

We didn't have an N0 peek but because that's not a thing this game but it doesn't matter because I'm a day cop and got an innocent result on Ithi just now.

Looking back, surprised I missed it. Thoughts on this?

It's to back his attempt to lead town. I'll explain more on this when I get home.

 

I wanna get back to this. Why did you think it was a bad thing for Darthe to lead the town? did you have a mafia read on him independent of his town leading attempts? I don't see anything other than a little bit of a "gut feel".  I haven't seen him trying to put himself above the fray. He may be playing it cool as far as that goes but it isn't looking that way presently. 

 

I know that you have calmed your gut . Do you think it a good idea to let him lead the town now?

 

 

I felt like he was trying to "put himself above the fray" originally. Since then, his posts haven't felt like that and I like his posts much more. Hence my unvote. 

 

IMMHO, leading the town (especially in this game, where everything's a %-shot; this means at best we've got multiple %-shot cop moves in town) is a very bad plan. It could easily take multiple days to clear said leader as town. FTC works because the cop is cleared and has nearly guaranteed reads. 

[John Snow]

 

 

 

Huh I though I remembered it being higher. Take their word on it over mine. (Or, hey, Turin you could just tell us how many people are on your team )

 

Also, Turin, could you post a reads list? 

 

I don't know how many other townies are out there.

 

John, I think you should probably start posting funny cat pictures. The bolded is a projection joke like the one you made to Ithi last game about the QT.

 

[unvote]

[v] John Snow [/v]

 

 

OMGUS harder bro.

 

Wrong again. I had you as a mafia read waaaaaay before you decide to come at me. Check your facts. My vote on Zander was for competing trains as he was the next best bet IMO. But a maf in the hand is worth two competing trains. 

 

just google Ihazcheeseburger and you will find plenty of funny cat pictures to post. 

 

 

You mean you jumped on Darthe's case which he hasn't even really explained? If you count that, sure. 

[John Snow]

John Snow, if you're town who is the wolf on your train?

 

 

Just because I'm town doesn't mean that there's exactly one scum on my train. There could easily be none or two regardless of my alignment. 

 

I already said I like EP's case on Hallia. I'd switch to her in a New York minute if I thought it would do any good, but atm I'm more interested in getting more info from everyone else in the game. There's still plenty of time before the DL as I said earlier. 

[John Snow]

Turin is prob town this game.

 

@Turin, a wtl/nwtl list is different from a town/not town list.  I'd love to see one of those from you.

 

Unless you plan on backing this up I'm going to take it with a grain of salt. 

[Turin Turambar]

 

Turin is prob town this game.

 

@Turin, a wtl/nwtl list is different from a town/not town list.  I'd love to see one of those from you.

 

Unless you plan on backing this up I'm going to take it with a grain of salt. 

 

You have him as town now? or null? If town why you taking this with a grain of salt?  

[TheMasterDude]

I think he means that if Darthe doesnt say why he thinks you are town that he doesnt care.

[John Snow]

 

 

Turin is prob town this game.

 

@Turin, a wtl/nwtl list is different from a town/not town list.  I'd love to see one of those from you.

 

Unless you plan on backing this up I'm going to take it with a grain of salt. 

 

You have him as town now? or null? If town why you taking this with a grain of salt?  

 

 

Town. And I take it with a grain of salt because the only people who know who's town or isn't are mafia. I think you're dirty. Unless someone is willing to provide evidence otherwise, I'm not taking their word on anything D1. 

[John Snow]

I think he means that if Darthe doesnt say why he thinks you are town that he doesnt care.

 ^this.

[Turin Turambar]

 

John Snow, if you're town who is the wolf on your train?

 

 

Just because I'm town doesn't mean that there's exactly one scum on my train. There could easily be none or two regardless of my alignment. 

 

I already said I like EP's case on Hallia. I'd switch to her in a New York minute if I thought it would do any good, but atm I'm more interested in getting more info from everyone else in the game. There's still plenty of time before the DL as I said earlier. 

 

Why do you think that a hallia vote will do no good? 

 

So you are not thinking there are mafia on your train?  That entire line is a cop out. 

[John Snow]

 

 

John Snow, if you're town who is the wolf on your train?

 

 

Just because I'm town doesn't mean that there's exactly one scum on my train. There could easily be none or two regardless of my alignment. 

 

I already said I like EP's case on Hallia. I'd switch to her in a New York minute if I thought it would do any good, but atm I'm more interested in getting more info from everyone else in the game. There's still plenty of time before the DL as I said earlier. 

 

Why do you think that a hallia vote will do no good? 

 

So you are not thinking there are mafia on your train?  That entire line is a cop out. 

 

 

No, I don't like how Darthe automatically assumes that if I'm town then there's exactly one scum on my train. 

 

And it's not that a Hallia vote will do no good, but that searching for scum elsewhere will do much more good at this point in the Day.

[Darthe]

Christ man learn your theories.  4 votes on your train and 25% wolf team means there's likely only one wolf.  I additionally have town-reads there so I doubt highly that they are wolves.  Thus, likely there is one.

 

Also, idc if you care about my Turin read yet.  It's not got enough weight for me to argue for him.  

[Turin Turambar]

 

 

 

Turin is prob town this game.

 

@Turin, a wtl/nwtl list is different from a town/not town list.  I'd love to see one of those from you.

 

Unless you plan on backing this up I'm going to take it with a grain of salt. 

 

You have him as town now? or null? If town why you taking this with a grain of salt?  

 

 

Town. And I take it with a grain of salt because the only people who know who's town or isn't are mafia. I think you're dirty. Unless someone is willing to provide evidence otherwise, I'm not taking their word on anything D1. 

 

Well, Town tend to believe and give weight to other people they think are town. That is how the game works. people think others are town and they work together to lynch the bad guys.

 

So your stance is that until someone can prove a negative (that I am not mafia) that you are going to continue with you little tunneling expedition? You keep on digging your hole. 

 

The burden of proof is on you John. 

[John Snow]

Christ man learn your theories.  4 votes on your train and 25% wolf team means there's likely only one wolf.  I additionally have town-reads there so I doubt highly that they are wolves.  Thus, likely there is one.

 

Also, idc if you care about my Turin read yet.  It's not got enough weight for me to argue for him.  

 

Never thought about it that way. Touchè. 

 

*shrug* fair enough.

[Darthe]

So where's the wolf?