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I don't like dice's push at all. I'm just not sure if it's scum pushing an agenda or a townie on townie violence. STAY TUNED.

 

dice, other than Sili... and Tina (I think you mentioned her too).... any other reads?

 

 

Also how many games have you played with Sili?

 

like 5 or so i think? at least 3 but not sure exactly how many

 

Ive got Verb and thus you as town. got nol as town. verb seems relaxed and was playing around yet not burying the thread in spidey. his jump at sili about why he was dropped down the list shows he's paying attention. this is an example of that thread memory I accused sili of not having. Nols off his obvious fake claim. his last few posts have shored that up for me as he is beginning to work and question

 

 

 

you say there is NO godfather. like you know it for a fact. that means either you ARE the godfather and want people thinking you dont exist, are scum and over stretched trying to get town credit or you are an oracle. Thats not possible because this is basic AND an oracle wouldnt get the response til morning.

 

Or he's just being Sili?  He has said weird scummy crap before as a townie in previous games. It's something anyone that played with him has to factor in when trying to read him. The fact that you're not even listing it as an option is odd.

 

 

I know. This was an absolute statement about game mechanics tho. I haven't seen that from him before. then he backflipped from it being an absolute to saying it was an assumption. that set off alarm bells.

 

 

i have more faith in my solve.

 

If you think I believe you would claim cop D1 first thing you are nuts. Simply makes me think you are scum trying to get credit and hoping to draw the real cop out.

 

A night is either a wash or it isnt. you either get info (which would make itr NOT a wash) or you dont (a wash)  you were straddling a fence saying mostly. Leaves you a way out.

 

Sili Quirrels, on 03 Feb 2015 - 06:29 AM, said:snapback.png

2-3 wolves, 1 seer.

 

No godfather, I repeat no godfather.

 

 

Please don't tinfoil on this.

 

 

you say there is NO godfather. like you know it for a fact. that means either you ARE the godfather and want people thinking you dont exist, are scum and over stretched trying to get town credit or you are an oracle. Thats not possible because this is basic AND an oracle wouldnt get the response til morning.

 

 

And I caught all that implying i will peek leelou and i have peeked leelou stuff. Want a hint? If you wanna fake claim take a lesson in subtlety. Its more believeable. that just comes across as fake.

 

Most of your posts this game strike me as fake actually. Im not likeing the tone of them at all

 

 

My vote stays where it is

Dear god Dice you've completely missed the point.

It wasn't meant to be subtle it was meant to communicate exactly what he was doing so when the gag was over he wouldn't get lynched over it.

Only someone not paying close attention would fall for it which I guess Leelou wasn't. I saw and went in with an assist. Kaylee saw and decided to call it out. It wasn't hard to see because it wasn't really meant to be.

 

 

says who?? people thought tommy claiming mafia roleblocker was too obvious to be true as well. Well guess what?  it was true. Im not discounting that he is, or knows there is a GF and is trying to dissuade us from thinking one exists

 

 

 

Thane says you are mafia sili.

 

 

nods

 

heres a warning shot from me to sili that i think hes mafia

Here's a question for you Dice.

Do you think it's scummy that you involved someone else in your "warning shot"?

 

 

shrugs  not really. It was while still joking around and in line for how i interact with thane.

 

 

RE tina   what set me off was her early post saying she was never voting sili. and she hasnt done the things i associate with town tina. 

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i have more faith in my solve.

 

If you think I believe you would claim cop D1 first thing you are nuts. Simply makes me think you are scum trying to get credit and hoping to draw the real cop out.

 

A night is either a wash or it isnt. you either get info (which would make itr NOT a wash) or you dont (a wash)  you were straddling a fence saying mostly. Leaves you a way out.

 

Sili Quirrels, on 03 Feb 2015 - 06:29 AM, said:snapback.png

2-3 wolves, 1 seer.

 

No godfather, I repeat no godfather.

 

 

Please don't tinfoil on this.

 

 

you say there is NO godfather. like you know it for a fact. that means either you ARE the godfather and want people thinking you dont exist, are scum and over stretched trying to get town credit or you are an oracle. Thats not possible because this is basic AND an oracle wouldnt get the response til morning.

 

 

And I caught all that implying i will peek leelou and i have peeked leelou stuff. Want a hint? If you wanna fake claim take a lesson in subtlety. Its more believeable. that just comes across as fake.

 

Most of your posts this game strike me as fake actually. Im not likeing the tone of them at all

 

 

My vote stays where it is

Dear god Dice you've completely missed the point.

It wasn't meant to be subtle it was meant to communicate exactly what he was doing so when the gag was over he wouldn't get lynched over it.

Only someone not paying close attention would fall for it which I guess Leelou wasn't. I saw and went in with an assist. Kaylee saw and decided to call it out. It wasn't hard to see because it wasn't really meant to be.

 

 

says who?? people thought tommy claiming mafia roleblocker was too obvious to be true as well. Well guess what?  it was true. Im not discounting that he is, or knows there is a GF and is trying to dissuade us from thinking one exists

I'm not talking about the GF stuff I'm talking about his guilty claim on Leelou.

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Unvote

 

for now. I hope it's okay that I didn't use the vote tags. I didn't want to take the time to look back and see what it was. This is easier for me. 

 

Sili, I still don't understand half of what you say, and in my day we lynched all liars. Obviously, things have changed here, and not for the better, imo. If the majority of the group that has commented thinks you are town, I'll observe more before damning you. 

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what about it? he'd already breadcrumbed a fake cop claim he just carried it on. No one would call him on it for fear of putting a sign on their back that says "mafia shoot here" so its perfect cover for a mafia to use to gain cred. and it looks like it worked too as you backed him up and have him in your town pile.

 

Does this sort of fake claim get done by townies? yes but his posts, his backtracking and his response to pressure plus this make me say hes not town.

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I'm old school. I don't think town should fake claim. But times have changed, I guess. The fake claim is why I voted as early as I did. 

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Deadline: Friday 2/6 12pm (Noon) CST 21HRS 30MINS from this post  or when someone has 6+ votes

 

Vote Count

 

Dice (2/10): Sili, Tina

Lily (1/10): Pral

Sili (1/10): dice

 

No Lynch(6/10): Kaytress, Thane, Verboobra, Nol, Leelou, Lily

  @ Lily so long as the vote/unvote is red in color and bolded i'll accept it.  people just tend to find the new tags easier *nods*

Posted

Well...

I'm gonna have to do this.

 

[v]Lily[/v]

 

I think this is going to be an unpopular vote given how much attention Dice is getting but I think it's the right move.

I'm all for having fun though so let's make a deal. Lily if you can tell me what it is I didn't like about post #307 without my having to explain it I'll drop it until D2 at the least.

And no this isn't a policy vote type of thing. I think you made a critical mistake just now which tipped your hand.

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It's either my not liking the way things have changed or my letting other people's opinions sway me. But if you think I'm scummy, go ahead and vote me. 

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Also, not really sure how I feel about Tina right now. Definitely going to be watching her. She's more telling a narrative and not really digging in or asking questions. The questions she is asking don't really be towards solving the game. 

 

What does this mean?

 

[unvote]

 

I'm leaning towards Kaylee or Pral right now. Slightly uncomfortable with Tina. Lily actually voted early on D1? Hmm. Thane needs to say something. Dice seems like a doggie with his favorite squeak toy. Feeling okay with Nol. Reserving judgment on Nyn until the Ewok shows up. Sili is over in the town pile, but believe me I'm watching all of your reactions. 

 

And what does the Hmmm mean? Doesn´t she vote early usually?

 

 

I love your scenes, Red!

 

 

I will not vote Sili this game. Not ever. 

That's interesting. I find Sili's move villagery but never is a strong statement to make so early.

Do you want to expand on that Tina?

 

 

I think I have already. You have probably read it after you posted this. I have seen Sili play as mafia twice and town once or twice and he has a very special style. This is townSili. Add to that the way he tried to start the game and his cases and activity.

 

 

 

Thane says you are mafia sili.

 

 

nods

 

heres a warning shot from me to sili that i think hes mafia

Here's a question for you Dice.

Do you think it's scummy that you involved someone else in your "warning shot"?

 

 

Yes, I questioned that before but I don´t think I got an answer. Seems like a strange way to word it. And I don´t understand the "warning shot" either. 

 

 

Yeah, in between the arguments between Dice and Sili, I didn't like how she starts appearing whether to vote Sili or not and then jumping on him quite quickly.

 

On the whole thing, I think both Sili and Dice are town here. Sili is much more focused - i have been wrong on him before - but his responses so far in this thread makes me think he is town. So is it with Dice 

 

Anyway, back to Lily

 

 

I don't know Sili at all, and what I'm most trying to do is figure out if he is scummy or just different. Dice is echoing what I'm thinking and I'm not liking Sili's reactions.

 

 

This is where she starts appearing in the Dice-Sili argument. Sili already has 2 votes at this point and seems to be the focus of attention. Knowing Lily, I have seen many times where she jumps on the easier candidate and this seems to be one of those occasions.

 

After a few posts, she votes him 

 

Dice's theory makes sense to me and your behavior does not. If that's the best you got...

 

[v]Sili[/v]

 
This doesn't feel like she intended to hear out Sili at all. Doesn't appear natural. It is more like she wants to show hard that she is a townie but eventually voting SIli anyway. That is what the feel I got after reading that conversation

 

 

Interesting. I will think about this.

 

I'm old school. I don't think town should fake claim. But times have changed, I guess. The fake claim is why I voted as early as I did. 

 

Even old school players did it - Jack, Mynd etc. Generally I agree with you and get crazy everytime Yates starts it but it has become a habit of him to claim early. Anyway, I don´t think the cop would cc in that early stage so no harm done. 

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Forgot. I don´t understand Kaylee´s posts from today. She starts with saying that she has changed her mind about Sili and point out some things but  later seems to drop it and she questions Dice instead. Kaylee, could you tell us who you think is town and mafia.

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It's either my not liking the way things have changed or my letting other people's opinions sway me. But if you think I'm scummy, go ahead and vote me. 

Actually...yeah that's close enough.

You're being really conciliatory and it strikes me as cautious.

Wanting to make the right moves and not garner the wrong kind of attention.

 

A deals a deal. But it doesn't look good to me and you can be sure I'll bring it up later in the game if you're not cleared.

 

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Forgot. I don´t understand Kaylee´s posts from today. She starts with saying that she has changed her mind about Sili and point out some things but later seems to drop it and she questions Dice instead. Kaylee, could you tell us who you think is town and mafia.

Leaning town on you, unsure on a lot. Though i might've found scum in Nol but feel better about him since his recent posts. Basically only read is a town lean on you. The rest I'd like to hear what my partner had to say when she gets home from work. She's better at getting reads.

 

Thinking town on Nyn/Verb too atm.

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Forgot. I don´t understand Kaylee´s posts from today. She starts with saying that she has changed her mind about Sili and point out some things but later seems to drop it and she questions Dice instead. Kaylee, could you tell us who you think is town and mafia.

I questioned some things he said and he's clarified them. I pointed things out as I caught up and they caught my eye.

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Also, not really sure how I feel about Tina right now. Definitely going to be watching her. She's more telling a narrative and not really digging in or asking questions. The questions she is asking don't really be towards solving the game. 

 

What does this mean?

 

[unvote]

 

I'm leaning towards Kaylee or Pral right now. Slightly uncomfortable with Tina. Lily actually voted early on D1? Hmm. Thane needs to say something. Dice seems like a doggie with his favorite squeak toy. Feeling okay with Nol. Reserving judgment on Nyn until the Ewok shows up. Sili is over in the town pile, but believe me I'm watching all of your reactions. 

 

And what does the Hmmm mean? Doesn´t she vote early usually?

 

 

I love your scenes, Red!

 

 

I will not vote Sili this game. Not ever. 

That's interesting. I find Sili's move villagery but never is a strong statement to make so early.

Do you want to expand on that Tina?

 

 

I think I have already. You have probably read it after you posted this. I have seen Sili play as mafia twice and town once or twice and he has a very special style. This is townSili. Add to that the way he tried to start the game and his cases and activity.

 

 

 

Thane says you are mafia sili.

 

 

nods

 

heres a warning shot from me to sili that i think hes mafia

Here's a question for you Dice.

Do you think it's scummy that you involved someone else in your "warning shot"?

 

 

Yes, I questioned that before but I don´t think I got an answer. Seems like a strange way to word it. And I don´t understand the "warning shot" either. 

 

 

Yeah, in between the arguments between Dice and Sili, I didn't like how she starts appearing whether to vote Sili or not and then jumping on him quite quickly.

 

On the whole thing, I think both Sili and Dice are town here. Sili is much more focused - i have been wrong on him before - but his responses so far in this thread makes me think he is town. So is it with Dice 

 

Anyway, back to Lily

 

 

I don't know Sili at all, and what I'm most trying to do is figure out if he is scummy or just different. Dice is echoing what I'm thinking and I'm not liking Sili's reactions.

 

 

This is where she starts appearing in the Dice-Sili argument. Sili already has 2 votes at this point and seems to be the focus of attention. Knowing Lily, I have seen many times where she jumps on the easier candidate and this seems to be one of those occasions.

 

After a few posts, she votes him 

 

Dice's theory makes sense to me and your behavior does not. If that's the best you got...

 

[v]Sili[/v]

 
This doesn't feel like she intended to hear out Sili at all. Doesn't appear natural. It is more like she wants to show hard that she is a townie but eventually voting SIli anyway. That is what the feel I got after reading that conversation

 

 

Interesting. I will think about this.

 

I'm old school. I don't think town should fake claim. But times have changed, I guess. The fake claim is why I voted as early as I did. 

 

Even old school players did it - Jack, Mynd etc. Generally I agree with you and get crazy everytime Yates starts it but it has become a habit of him to claim early. Anyway, I don´t think the cop would cc in that early stage so no harm done. 

 

 

Mynd is Mynd, and can get away with a lot. Jack usually got lynched for it, or at least run up pretty close to lynch. 

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My strongest town read is Leelou, followed by Tina and Kaylee, but I want to hear from Tress before making a call there. I don't have any scum reads, other than maybe Sili, but that could be just not liking his play. I tend to find scum by process of elimination anyway. 

Posted

Well...

I'm gonna have to do this.

 

[v]Lily[/v]

 

I think this is going to be an unpopular vote given how much attention Dice is getting but I think it's the right move.

I'm all for having fun though so let's make a deal. Lily if you can tell me what it is I didn't like about post #307 without my having to explain it I'll drop it until D2 at the least.

And no this isn't a policy vote type of thing. I think you made a critical mistake just now which tipped your hand.

 

What is the meaning of this? Of course she is going to give that answer so you vote her knowing that you will unvote her right away. Strange. 

Posted

 

 

I love your scenes, Red!

 

 

I will not vote Sili this game. Not ever. 

That's interesting. I find Sili's move villagery but never is a strong statement to make so early.

Do you want to expand on that Tina?

 

 

I think I have already. You have probably read it after you posted this. I have seen Sili play as mafia twice and town once or twice and he has a very special style. This is townSili. Add to that the way he tried to start the game and his cases and activity.

 

Ok, you think he's town.

But why such a strong endorsement?

You could have just said you think he's town, instead you're basically screaming it.

Saying you wont EVER vote someone is a really strong statement. It sticks out you know?

Making such a strong read so early in the game just doesn't jive well with me.

Posted

 

Well...

I'm gonna have to do this.

 

[v]Lily[/v]

 

I think this is going to be an unpopular vote given how much attention Dice is getting but I think it's the right move.

I'm all for having fun though so let's make a deal. Lily if you can tell me what it is I didn't like about post #307 without my having to explain it I'll drop it until D2 at the least.

And no this isn't a policy vote type of thing. I think you made a critical mistake just now which tipped your hand.

 

What is the meaning of this? Of course she is going to give that answer so you vote her knowing that you will unvote her right away. Strange.

 

I think you're confused. I didn't tell her why I voted her, I gave her the opportunity to tell me why she thinks I voted her.

If you mean to say that you think I would have unvoted her no matter what she said because it was my plan all along then ok.

But if that's not what you're saying then I think you're confused. I didn't give her the answer.

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I found it hard enough to understand Sili before the PR. Now, it's pretty close to impossible. Sorry if I'm missing anything important. 

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