[Basic/Standard] A Wind in the Door Mafia - GAME OVER, TOWN WINS

[csarmi]

 

 

What specifically are you looking for?  I've said plenty of things already; you two are being overly aggressive to try to get a read on a new player.  If you have something specific you would like to know, I would be glad to share it, but I'm not going to adjust play-style for a couple schoolyard bullies.

 

I would day vig without looking back here.

I'm not sure what this means (probably missing some lingo).  Do you mind explaining?

Day vigilante = day vig = a town role that can shoot people instantly at day.

 

Basically i would kill you on the spot.

[jmm]

 

 

 

What specifically are you looking for?  I've said plenty of things already; you two are being overly aggressive to try to get a read on a new player.  If you have something specific you would like to know, I would be glad to share it, but I'm not going to adjust play-style for a couple schoolyard bullies.

I would day vig without looking back here.

I'm not sure what this means (probably missing some lingo).  Do you mind explaining?

Day vigilante = day vig = a town role that can shoot people instantly at day.

 

Basically i would kill you on the spot.

 

 

Thanks.

[Cory Caboose]

Going to focus in another game

Will try to give you all some love after EOD there

[csarmi]

Reposted with less quote fail... 

1. How is that an odd thing for me to say? You did the "LOL SCUM SHOULD BE SKURRED" thing. Still rings as disingenuous to me.

Yeah. The clear implication is scum should be scared going forward. As in, now that I *am* here and paying attention. Fairly certain you are being intentionally obtuse at this point. To what end? Remains a mystery. 

2. I said that in a scum game, but yeah, I can usually figure out when Hally goes out of her SCUM range. She's not a player I can recognize AS scum, just a player I can recognize as town and be right a lot. So far nothing, HENCE THE PROBLEM. That should be EASY for you to understand. Let me know if I need to make you a graph or charts or something if this isn't getting through.

Not certain the snark is warranted. Certainly adds no value or enjoyment to the game. Not for me, at least.With that said, you act as if Hally not posting a lot is suddenly something scummy for her. Would you disagree with my assertion that Hally doesn't post all that much REGARDLESS of alignment?Let's call a spade a spade. The timing of your post didn't happen in a vacuum. You didn't find her scummy until I popped in reminding you that I was part of her hydra. Hence, your Des reference from earlier being apt. [For those of you that don't know, Des and I had a string of like 8 or 9 games in a row where he tunneled on me regardless of his alignment.] 

3. See above IRT to Hallia. I have been playing with her for almost a year; I think I'm at my max capacity on my ability to read her. Her slank town game and scum game are similar enough that it's hard to pick the two apart because she gives you VERY little. How am I expected to read her with her ABSENT volume? You putting the onus of my for your partner's lack of content seems more like your D2-D5 derp scum game (see: Discworld) than your town game. Have fun being Yates

Okay. I retract my question from above. Here you clearly admit to Hally being a slank poster regardless of alignment. So you see why you claiming you suddenly considered Hally "a problem" for "slanking" [and really - it's the weekend so is she even REALLY slanking?] might ping for me/require further investigation/explanation?Also, categorizing my scum game as "derp scum" is fairly childish. I won that, more or less, single-handed. Get over it. If the differences between my play here and my play in that game don't become immediately apparent? THEN you can worry about it. At this point? It's just an excuse/fake justification to justify your "read" on the slot. We both know it.Finally, I'm here now. And I'm caught up. If you have a problem with my slot, feel free to direct your questions or concerns to me. I'd be happy to help. So you can go ahead and remove "lack of activity/posting" as an excuse to "scum read" or "have concerns" with this slot since I think we both know activity isn't going to be a problem with me in the game. Time to reassess, dude. 

4. I gave a lot of reasoning on monstr - MAYBE YOU SHOULD READ THE THREAD BEFORE POSTING OPINIONS AS IF YOU HAVE A POINT. Right? Sensible?

I was using that as a carry over example from Krak's game, in case that wasn't evident. No need to rehash my #ALLIANCE argument from that game. 

5. See ALL THE ABOVE, your general attitude (#toan) and the fact that I don't think these are the sort of lines you take as town.

Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and call bullshanks on this one. At the time you claimed our slot "a problem" I had all of one post. That post was a placeholder for the game. That's it.In case anyone wants to fact check, these are the posts in question:

Where I enter the game:

Just a post to say hello [which really means to add this forum to my "posted in" list]. I will be joining Hally in this adventure as soon as I'm caught up. And that will not be tonight.Good evening!

I have zero additional content before this post SEVENTEEN MINUTES later:

Yates/Hallia slot is a problem :(A problem that might require deathening

So Cory, you were saying something about someone having a "narrative...???"

Umm. Cory called your slot a problem way before you entered the game. I dont see him going after you just when about to enter.

 

I am not sure it cannot look that way from your perspective tho.

 

Anyone with an independent take here?

[Cory Caboose]

 

Not sure why you are getting all aggressive here but I'll play...1. WRT my "greatest strength" - I've been in the game for like 3 hours - all in catch up mode. Not sure how much of a threat you expected me to be while not here?? Odd statement for you to make. The last time I played with scum Cory [in VS] you tried to get me mislynched while I was still in catch up mode. So I'm reading this post with that informing my read.2. So you are saying Town you can't read Hally even though you have already claimed you can read Hally ["the nicest person in the world"] in the past and just hydraed with her as scum? That sounds like a YOU problem to me...3. I was paying attention to the game where I correctly identified your slot as scummy. Eventually. I have no way of knowing when/if you stopped paying attention to your partner but that doesn't change the fact you have your scum QT and your hydra QT to go back to at ANY POINT in the game. Seems like a nice tool to have at your disposal for reading the Hally slot given that the meta is so darn fresh.4. A lot has changed since that VT game. The Krak game made it crystal clear to me that #soulreads have been nothing but detrimental to the Town. If you want to say Manbat is Town? Great. Just give me a legit reason. You know. The same stuff I asked for in the Krak game.5. Not sure what you are characterizing as a "narrative." Care to quote it/point it out?

Not sure i follow Yates here. He should get why Cory thinks their slot is a problem (Hally posted little. Yates none at all until then. Also Yates hard to clear. And Hally hedging on Salami is a bad sign.)

 

Yet he calls Cory agressive and interprets it as if he was called a threat after a few hours of play.

 

Hmm.

 

 

Talk more about this because I had thoughts on it

 

I want to see if anyone is on my level

[csarmi]

Going to focus in another game

 

Will try to give you all some love after EOD there

We don't need your lovification

We don't need your thought control

Independence from the Cory

That's what we should try to do

 

Hey

Players

Lynch them scum alone

 

All in all that's something

You ain't need Cory for

[csarmi]

@Cory you seriously want me to think?

 

Not sure about levels. Hally should have an opinion on me. Having me as null is weird. But then she would know that...

[csarmi]

Take care, Csarmi. That goes for Mish too. 

 

 

I don´t know what to think about the Cory - Yates argument. I understand what Yates say about Cory not reading Hally as he usually do. But I was also wondering if Hally didn´t want to post without waiting for Yates. (To be fair, I think it´s hard to play as a hydra. When I have, I have felt that I didn´t dared to post as much until talking to my hydra buddy.) Bringing up old games doesn´t help me at all. 

 

I´m interested to hear why people want to keep Tommy alive. Cory put him in a lol category that means what? Most of you think it´s towny to claim scum or third party?

 

Bolded: then please do explain to me.

[csarmi]

Okay GN.

 

I don't see why Yates claim is such a big trmup card btw (just saw it) but it might just be too late. Past middle ight here.

[Songstress]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

Sili (2) - jmm, Manbat
Tommy (3) - Sarmtosser, Tina, Lenlo
jmm (2) - Sili, CorMish
Pral (1) - Sleeper

Lenlo (1) - Tommy

Not voting (3): Err, Pral, HalliYates


With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
 
Deadline for Day 1 is Wednesday, December 10 @ 8:30 PM MST
Countdown Link: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20141210T2030&p0=197&msg=DAY+ONE+DEADLINE&csz=1
 
MOD NOTES:
* Mish will be unavailable from now until Thursday, December 11

[Songstress]

ADDITIONAL MOD NOTE:

 

I just came to the realization that I neglected to put in the rules list that this is not intended to be an open communication game.  Please don't discuss the game outside the game thread unless you have been given permission to do so.

[Cory Caboose]

The pictures I sent Lenlo were not supposed to be game-related

[Songstress]

The pictures I sent Lenlo were not supposed to be game-related

 

*jealous*

[Yates]

Umm. Cory called your slot a problem way before you entered the game.

Did he? Perhaps you can show me where?

[Cory Caboose]

Yeah let's talk about this for another 3-4 pages

[Yates]

Yeah let's talk about this for another 3-4 pages

Shh. Csarmi is on to something. Just asking him to show his work.

[dicetosser1]

Nice Yates. If I'm town faking the claim, then you should shut up about it because there are few reasons I would do that and you should be smart enough to realize why.

 

My BP claim didn't hurt anyone other than resulting in me dead faster. We probably win that game if I'm still alive.

 

Don't talk down to me, thanks.

 

 

yet again ironic is ironic.

[dicetosser1]

Question:

 

Who thinks I am a wolf because of my claim

 

Who doesn't care about the claim and thinks I'm a wolf because ???

I think you arnt town because of BOTH your claims and ure general lack of pro town involvement.

[Cory Caboose]

> EAT

> PUT AWAY LAUNDRY

> TAKE OUT TRASH

> PUT DISHES AWAY

> MAFIA

> SLEEP?

[Songstress]

> EAT

> PUT AWAY LAUNDRY

> TAKE OUT TRASH

> PUT DISHES AWAY

> MAFIA

> SLEEP?

 

Consolidate.

 

Eat the laundry, throw away the dishes, and then play mafia in your sleep.

[Cory Caboose]

Tress

[Lenlo]

 

Or [unvote][v]Tommy[/v]

Len.

 

First i am scummy but Dice even more so (and you quote nothing from Dice). The. I am supposedly distancing from Tommy (even though we are voting him and told him we will get him lynched if he keeps doing crap) and now you still don't like my posts but like some of Dice.

 

Confusing eh?

 

Anyway.

 

Not gonna post santa pix for you.

 

I dont see how its confusing? Dice posted crap, you posted crap, I said its easier to read you later in the game so said your not my priority. Then you continued posting crap, Dice stopped posting crap and you going after Tommy without actually voting him (at the time of that post) or any real casing ("Tommys being stupid. Keep this up and im gonna case you Tommy" a push/case does not make) constitutes distancing in my book cause your not actually trying to get him lynched. Your on him for looks at this point. So no not confusing. Your the only one having problems with my stuff.

 

Atleast you read that part. Mish gave me a santa though, you party pooper.

 

 

I think I might put Lenlo in light green for his MQ but probably am not moving Yates

 

Which feels like a Des move to me which makes me feel bad

 

But that's my feels

 

Lenlo FTR I've seen you tunnel the survivor as scum as an excuse for doing anything else so that's not going to fly here

 

I'd probably be very against lynching Tommy today but I wouldn't cry if he were vigged (sorry Tim Tom)

Lenlo loves tunneling as scum. One of his tells. Now it's out in the open.

 

Thats not the only thing out in the open tonight 

 

 

Awww Cory im finally not scum to you after my first post. Are you starting to care again? 

 

So I musta missed something with you and Hallia/Yates, usually your so adamant about her being town whats different this time?

Lenlo continues to make no sense. What?

 

Why should Cory be adamant on Hally being town in a vacuum? Is Hally always town?

 

Why should he be adamant of Hally being town here? Maybe cause Hally is town and Len knows it?

 

Cory answered that question about three times on the last five pages before that.

 

Lenlo, your derp clear has expired.

 

What? I played with Cory acouple times on VS where everytime I went after Hallia for being scum, he defended her adamantly and admittedly I was wrong there, but I didnt know it at the time. Every game Cory thinks Hally is town he defends her hard and I had yet to see a game where he wasnt defending her, which led me to ask what he thinks of her. Especially because I am very very bad at reading her to the point where if I think she is scum, just calling her town is actually more accurate.

 

So that post was a mix of prior game stuff and questioning about this game. I thought it was pretty clear and Cory obviously understood it.

 

The pictures I sent Lenlo were not supposed to be game-related

 Dont uh, dont look at those Tress.

[Hallia]

Trying to catch up.  From what I've read, I'd bet Len is town.  I like the way he's trying to change the way he plays (for I know how it feels.)

 

That being said, I'm trusting in my hydra partner to read csarmi-dice.  Call it suspicious if you want Csarmageddon, but this game I'm having difficulty with you.

[csarmi]

Why?

[csarmi]

 

 

Or [unvote][v]Tommy[/v]

 

Len.

First i am scummy but Dice even more so (and you quote nothing from Dice). The. I am supposedly distancing from Tommy (even though we are voting him and told him we will get him lynched if he keeps doing crap) and now you still don't like my posts but like some of Dice.

Confusing eh?

Anyway.

Not gonna post santa pix for you.

I dont see how its confusing? Dice posted crap, you posted crap, I said its easier to read you later in the game so said your not my priority. Then you continued posting crap, Dice stopped posting crap and you going after Tommy without actually voting him (at the time of that post) or any real casing ("Tommys being stupid. Keep this up and im gonna case you Tommy" a push/case does not make) constitutes distancing in my book cause your not actually trying to get him lynched. Your on him for looks at this point. So no not confusing. Your the only one having problems with my stuff.

 

Atleast you read that part. Mish gave me a santa though, you party pooper.

 

 

I think I might put Lenlo in light green for his MQ but probably am not moving Yates

 

Which feels like a Des move to me which makes me feel bad

 

But that's my feels

 

Lenlo FTR I've seen you tunnel the survivor as scum as an excuse for doing anything else so that's not going to fly here

 

I'd probably be very against lynching Tommy today but I wouldn't cry if he were vigged (sorry Tim Tom)

 

Lenlo loves tunneling as scum. One of his tells. Now it's out in the open.

Thats not the only thing out in the open tonight 

 

 

Awww Cory im finally not scum to you after my first post. Are you starting to care again? 

 

So I musta missed something with you and Hallia/Yates, usually your so adamant about her being town whats different this time?

 

Lenlo continues to make no sense. What?

Why should Cory be adamant on Hally being town in a vacuum? Is Hally always town?

Why should he be adamant of Hally being town here? Maybe cause Hally is town and Len knows it?

Cory answered that question about three times on the last five pages before that.

Lenlo, your derp clear has expired.

What? I played with Cory acouple times on VS where everytime I went after Hallia for being scum, he defended her adamantly and admittedly I was wrong there, but I didnt know it at the time. Every game Cory thinks Hally is town he defends her hard and I had yet to see a game where he wasnt defending her, which led me to ask what he thinks of her. Especially because I am very very bad at reading her to the point where if I think she is scum, just calling her town is actually more accurate.

 

So that post was a mix of prior game stuff and questioning about this game. I thought it was pretty clear and Cory obviously understood it.

 

The pictures I sent Lenlo were not supposed to be game-related

 

 Dont uh, dont look at those Tress.

Confusing as you bring no Dice examples yet you are "more suspicious of him" at first when you talk only about me.