[Advanced] Revenge of the Marlfox

[Pralaya]

Rags was here a few posts back. He was kinda distancing

[Alanna]

##BFKey

 

I believe Despo's claim more than theirs. Maybe it's because his thinking on delaying claims as long as possible jives with mine, but his arguments don't sound contrived to me. Who he protected and why makes a lot if sense to me as town, whereas I can see the scum incentive in BFKeys targets. Sure, despo could be lying to get a mislynch here. But the JK claim and the excuse if being blocked to explain why they haven't been killed is just as convenient, if not more so.

[Hallia]

What're the odds of three protector roles?

[Yates]

What're the odds of three protector roles?

0%

[Alanna]

Whoa, ninja' d by a bunch. How many votes is that for BFG?

[Leelou]

Sili - you mean this stunning contribution? 

 

So BFKey and Serf are two scum members?

 

Doesn't really surprise me. 

[Sili Quirrels]

 

Sili - you mean this stunning contribution? 

 

So BFKey and Serf are two scum members?

 

Doesn't really surprise me. 

 

At least he's around

[Sili Quirrels]

Whoa, ninja' d by a bunch. How many votes is that for BFG?

4 or some such. We're likely at L-2

[Yates]

I believe Despo's claim more than theirs.

You think Des would keep quiet and push Dice all day if he's a Doc that had a protect on us Day 1 and is now 100% "convinced" BFKey is the scum?

 

I agree that it sounds like a last second gambit. I give his claim about 10% plausibility. The question - as with Tommy - is really about motivation. Is he lying because he's Town or is he lying because he's scum? It's pretty late in the day/game for a gambit. This wreaks of a desperation push to win MYLO.

[hazelkrs1]

It's not a gambit Yates. I assure you with the utmost Ned Nerlanderingness here.

 

And I was still also thinking not TOO long ago that Krak might have modspewed BFKey town btw. That was one of the biggest hurdles for me to get over.

[hazelkrs1]

 

 

Whoa, ninja' d by a bunch. How many votes is that for BFG?

4 or some such. We're likely at L-2

???

[Alanna]

 

I believe Despo's claim more than theirs.

You think Des would keep quiet and push Dice all day if he's a Doc that had a protect on us Day 1 and is now 100% "convinced" BFKey is the scum?

 

I agree that it sounds like a last second gambit. I give his claim about 10% plausibility. The question - as with Tommy - is really about motivation. Is he lying because he's Town or is he lying because he's scum? It's pretty late in the day/game for a gambit. This wreaks of a desperation push to win MYLO.

If he also believes dice is scum, then yes. He obviously wanted to keep from claiming, if possible, and he might have felt that he couldn't get support for a key lynch without claiming. So he goes for another suspect. When that doesn't go anywhere, he gives in and claims.

 

I can see that from a scum perspective too - but I can see the town motivation as well. And I'm getting townie from Despo.

[Krakalakachkn]

Vote Count

 

 

Hallia(1):Monstr

BFG(4): Des, Pral, hallia, Alanna

Despo(1): Sili

 

Not voting(6): The rest of you lot

 

 

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

 

 

Deadline: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20141111T21&p0=2133&csz=1&swk=1

[Leelou]

Des is voting twice? 

[hazelkrs1]

Bahahaha! Secret triple voter powers engage!

 

##vote BFKey ##vote BFKey ##vote BFKey

 

[Krakalakachkn]

It's so secret I didn't even know about it!

[Yates]

It's not a gambit Yates. I assure you with the utmost Ned Nerlanderingness here.

This means nothing from someone who *just* told me I should take advantage of stuff like this as scum. Plus, only AJ is Ned Nederlander. Plus Plus, you already straight up lied to my face on a cross your heart and hope to die claim of vig.

[Yates]

So I asked Leelou about this in our QT.

 

She says Des has been inconsistent.

She has also been uncomfortable with BFKey all game.

 

Then she said it's MY call.

 

Des/BFG Thunderdome. Go!!

[Yates]

Hally - you should unvote if you are Town. If Des is lying and BFKey is Town, scum only need 2 Townie votes on a mislynch [assuming 4 scum].

[Sili Quirrels]

No thunderdome?

[Hallia]

That's true enough, though I'm 98% sure on Des.

[Hallia]

[unvote]

[TheRagnarok]

I'm at work so yeah, I'm a bit busy. 

 

I'm leaning towards believing Des, it's a winning play if he is scum, but I don't think that's what this is.

 

No rush to vote imo, we have a while to let things unfold, but I'll likely be voting BFKey in a bit.

[dicetosser1]

BFG/KEY    i voted early on because a BFG post struck me as scummy. The logic key threw out after their claim re their actions made sense to me and in fact in regards to tommy I would have done the same as a JK. My big hesitation is that they are not dead. we suspect theres a scum RB and pral claims to be a town one but he said he hasnt rbd bfg/key. now if theres a scum rb blocking them constantly makes sense. so does not killing them i guess considering the WIFOM caused and the possibility of a mislynch.

 

 

des  has claimed doc. not sure i believe it. it came out of nowhere. i have been expecting a claim from him if id got anywhere near lynching him. Has already lied and claimed vig, tho i thought that lie transparent at the time. I have been wondering about the lack of a doc or cop in this game. He made an argument that bfg/key is much less likely to have blocked the kill then him but his reasoning for this is based on the fact that they are not dead yet. He ahs also been inconsistent very recently refuting bfg saying he has been town reading yates/leelou all game but got busted when BFG quoted him saying he thought they were lying

 

right now i dont know what to vote. If it was gun to head, id probably go Des

[dicetosser1]

i read hallia and rags and got this horrible feeling that we are about to get screwed. I suggest town gets off BFG

 

 

##vote Des