[Standard] Cory vs. Bad Dietary Habits & Laziness Mafia, Mafia Sweep

[Andrej]

/destress

[SickPuppets]

Puppets I'm not trying to be mean but I feel like your presence so far has only muddied my perspective of the thread and not made it any easier to game solve. I can't tell if your stances are real and I don't have confident that they would be good stances if they are real. So if you could kick it up a notch and try to produce more original thoughts and content that would be a boon to the thread I think.

I'll try I'm still missing out on around 35 pages of the game (25-60) but I'll do the best I can. I'm just stating my thoughts on how I feel about Swag as a lynch so I don't understand the problem with the stance unless you're referring to others, if so which?

[Tommyrod]

Anything, Puppets. I don't know anything you're thinking. I have no idea if you are town or scum and I change my mind on it constantly. I don't even know why you were asking me for 3 top bottom and middle reads. What did you do with that information?

[SickPuppets]

Anything, Puppets. I don't know anything you're thinking. I have no idea if you are town or scum and I change my mind on it constantly. I don't even know why you were asking me for 3 top bottom and middle reads. What did you do with that information?

Curiousity/Seeing if you have any drastic changes in reads and if so why.

[dicetosser1]

 

 

Why isn't Hallia just telling me this HERSELF? Where is she? WHEN did she start to distrust me? JUST NOW? WHY ISN'T SHE POSTING THEN?

I dunno. She was around half an hour ago.

 

 

When did she tell you she didn't trust me anymore? What was it in response to?

 

Do you think Tress is scum now?

 

 

hmm seems like tommy is shook itt this time lol

 

 

 

 

 

Why isn't Hallia just telling me this HERSELF? Where is she? WHEN did she start to distrust me? JUST NOW? WHY ISN'T SHE POSTING THEN?

I dunno. She was around half an hour ago.

When did she tell you she didn't trust me anymore? What was it in response to?

 

Do you think Tress is scum now?

I told her 50 minutes ago that I'm legit scum reading you now for the wat you're pressuring SBD whether she is still sure you're scum.

 

#Tress - I really liked the way she responded me two nights ago (went out of her way to help and gsd great time). I was hoping to be able to lock clear her based on her big catch up. Liked it, but not enough. Town read on her still, but not a strong one.

 

 

This is indicative of cognitive dissonance, but it's likely because you're trying to read two separate players as one collective read.

 

If you read one as scum, you cannot possibly read the other as town. You should probably re-read them both if you're actually a villager. If you're a wolf please continue with this train of thought.

 

 

honest question. Can hydras be of both alignments?  ie 1 town 1 mafia?

 

 

Jokes on me and the scumteam is AJ/Slender/Des/Yates. GG guys.

Best. Scum. Team. Ever.

 

Also, my favorite bands are Stryper, Mumford and Sons, Kings of Leon, and Abba. Oh, and Debbie Gibson.

 

 

Debbie Gibson?? ELECTRIC YOUTH!!   fistbumps the brother from the other side of the world   or would if he didnt have abba in that list.  Im disappointed yates. Disappointed.

[Songstress]

/destress

No, I'm not a hydra with Despo.... this time

[Hallia]

No, hydras are the same slot.  They can't be different alignments.

[Songstress]

honest question. Can hydras be of both alignments?  ie 1 town 1 mafia?

Dice, dice, dice... You're better than this.

[dicetosser1]

hey i was just asking because of someone having different reads on them. wasnt sure if it could be done like lovers.

 

So while my tress is here....talk to me. Who is the scum? convince me you and tommy are town cause he has me wondering.

[Yates]

honest question. Can hydras be of both alignments?  ie 1 town 1 mafia?

Do you know what a hydra is? It's two people that got the same role PM from the mod playing in the same slot.

 

Debbie Gibson?? ELECTRIC YOUTH!!   fistbumps the brother from the other side of the world   or would if he didnt have abba in that list.  Im disappointed yates. Disappointed.

In my defense that was a list of Christian Rock Bands - and Debbie Gibson - and Abba [for Darthe].

 

Plus, you know I was always partial to Kylie.

 

Are you Town this game, Dice? I want you to be Town but I don't see you Town telling. And that makes me sad.

[Yates]

Also, have you reconsidered your position on Hally, Dice? Some stuff happened and curious how it affected your read of that slot [Hally and Csarmi are the same].

[Songstress]

hey i was just asking because of someone having different reads on them. wasnt sure if it could be done like lovers.

 

So while my tress is here....talk to me. Who is the scum? convince me you and tommy are town cause he has me wondering.

 

You've played enough games with hydras, I don't believe for a second you honestly don't understand that they're two people filling the same slot in the game.

 

As for who the scum is, I believe discretion is the better part of valor during night phase. I prefer to keep my mouth shut and my eyes open. Can't speak for my other head, of course.  But if you're trying to decide whether we've got enough of your scummates pegged that we're a serious danger to your team, do your worst.  

[Yates]

One post I wanted to bring back upon further review:

 

We need to lynch one of the three candidates that have been carried and analyzed through the day imo.  I'll not really defend any of them since all have warranted the votes garnered on them so IMO buddy up to the groups who you think are most town on most likely scum and let's get some late day consolidation.

While I don't disagree with what you're saying, I've just become frustrated that there doesn't seem to be any PANIC or SHIFT in votes at EOD and that makes me think boom, town-town-town wagons.

 

Given a 3rd Party lynch and the wagon on Halligeddon was likely on Town, what does this say about Arsis and TI? Nothing? Because they never really got to a point where they were in danger?

 

I'll check tomorrow after Key has added vote links to see if more than one person moved off one of those wagons and onto Voss. Please hold me to this in case I forget.

[dicetosser1]

@yates and Tress  yes ive played with hydras. I just didnt know if it was possible for them to be different cause i keep looking at it as two people and forgetting they are the same role.

 

 

 

yes Yates I am town and you should believe that. If you haven't seen it you havent been looking bro

 

regarding hally  after all that rubbish at the EOD i think they are likely to be town. Doesnt change my opinion re ignoring her opinion on tommy tho

[dicetosser1]

i think arsis got to a max of 5/9 votes. might have hit six but i think 5.

 

is.

[Andrej]

I feel ~better.

 

Time for work.

 

Initial thoughts first before I start to reread all the stuff I was heavily skimming during EOD.

 

Unfortunately analyzing Vos's wagon probably won't tell us too much. Him being 3rd party means nobody should have really been against his lynch so to speak.

 

I still think Slendy looks pretty awesome for his soul read though.

 

I want to look at the later push on Salamia as I think there could be something there to find but then again I think a lot of the voting activity right at DL was likely spurned on by townies who were legit unsure of who to wagon. Except Krak, perhaps, who voted CS after his claim. I also have an idea that the heavy Vos push could've been backed by scum as a counter wagon to others on the table. I really need to look back specifically to see how each progressed, but these are just general ideas.

 

I'm sort of worried that I may have scared myself off the SP wagon when it started to gain speed due to reservations on other slots. 

[hazelkrs1]

Reading through Tommy's EOD posts is emotionally exhausting

 

Also the Halligeddon push was legit awful. I told yall they were LOCK CLEAR a long time ago

 

Third party lynch is sorta meh, but still good for town, especially considering the vote thief is gone (that role would have been a big ol distraction)

 

Finding some hilarious interactions/reactions during this EOD stuff. Comedy gold

 

[Andrej]

Official Final Day One Vote Count:

 

Arsis (3) – dicetosser1, Pralaya, Halligeddon

TI (3) – GleMeri, nervositee, manbat

nervositee (7) - Despothera, TheSlenderMan, TI, Arsis, Tomstress, AJ, darthe,

Halligeddon (3) - Yates, SickPuppets, Krak

 

Not Voting (1): Torrey_Smith's_Brother

 

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch!

 

Majority was not met, but deadline was. Nervositee was lynched!

 

 

Scene incoming.

 

(I'll edit links in tomorrow morning.)

 

Okay, Final VC.

 

Like I said before, it's hard to give too much credit to those wagoning Vos because he flipped 3rd party over Mafia, which from a Mafia POV means they likely thought they were getting a townie lynched.

 

Of those I think Turin might fit that mold and perhaps Darthe but that is mostly based on what I remember from them ITT prior to the EOD antics.

 

I feel reasonably comfortable saying Salamia is town now despite my discomfort before, so anyone on that wagon could be suspect. I feel Yates is probably okay. Krak not so much and SP I have been going back and forth on all game.

 

If Arsis is actually town I would pick Pral over Dice for scum.

 

Turin wagon looks alright. I don't think Vos being on it says anything about Turin in particular because Vos could've been legitimately Mafia hunting and just got called out by SlendyGOAT because he couldn't detach from his non-Town alignment subconsciously.

[csarmi]

@Arsis - oh yea I'm reading the thread. You got pushed. So you switched to clever defense mode and started pushing Tommy (who you knew you'd never get lynched especially not day one anyway, so it was a safe way to anti-spew). Tommy pushing literally anyone this D1 clears zero people cause y'all could know (in fact everyone familiar with Tommy could) that he'd be able to direct the train where he wants... Or at least misdirect from where he don't.

 

Your disappearance, your knee-jerk reaction to us after lynch and especially the wagonomics (you needed to be saved... First redirect into csarmi, then take another way out when it don't look strange anymore cause there's a hurry (Vos)... Locks you in as scum.

 

Tommy is scum for when he pushed me, how he pushed me and the way he treated the conversation. So that he always stays clean hand, but cleverly paint me bad with nudges/ keeping the upper hand BY constant aggression. I told Hally I'll be able to read Tommy!scum iffen he pushes us. You kind of need to be in it to understand. I'll call it an informed omgus. This is how I learnt he was Mafia in star wars thrawn.

 

Sickpuppets is actually the weakest read there but we see him legit scummy and he had an easy road into pushing me.

 

Darthe is second strongest after Arsis. He came and threatened to kill me if I don't full claim. Also he was hedging and arrived in the end just in time to do so. This don't look as a town!Darthe appearance around deadline.

 

Who pushed who... Results matter. Wagonomics matter.

 

Fact is Tommy and Darthe was never in danger of getting lynched. Teammate push on them is way in possibility range.

[csarmi]

You can calk Darthe read informed omgus too. I know this is how he'd treat me (especially after he played d1 super clean). Deep wolf. RB I'd say.

[hazelkrs1]

Scenes ITT make me wanna stalk Cory even harder

[Songstress]

You're so adorably wrong, Csarmi.

[hazelkrs1]

Salami confirmed more emo than me ITT

 

 

Csarmi you're completely wrong about Tommy. His push on you was bad but not scummy. Your reaction was kinda bleurgh and he's still LOCK CLEAR

 

And Darthe isn't a deep wolf. He's just a wolf

 

[hazelkrs1]

Preach is Tress

 

Also lay down some love and law

[hazelkrs1]

I'm actually a little upset you guys are looking at krak now when I'm the first one to question him. I feel like you guys don't appreciate me and all the scum hunting and other assets I bring to the table. You guys better watch yourselves.

neil degrasse tyson

 

Also Arsis prob ain't scum btw. Pretty sure TI McScummerson spewed him town besides all the other stuff pointing to town!Arsis