Sherlock Holmes Role Madness Mafia Town wins

[Krakalakachkn]

WoD Pt. 1

 

 

 

Ahh wait now I remember. Thane kept trying to shout for everyone to look at Pray D1 if I'm not mistaken.

 

That could have been him signaling, but eh I dunno I kinda doubt that. Iirc, Thane brought Pray up numerous times. I'll have to go back and check in a bit to check it out again, but yeah that might have spewed Pray as town if Thane knew who his teammates were (which we won't be finding out anytime soon, but meh)

 

So shelve the Pray read for now. Will go back to Lenlo or Hallia for last scummeh.

 

 

Ok so here Despo more or less starts/continues with his push on Pralaya, Hallia, and Lenlo as the last three scum.  Don't forget that he CS is in this group too even if he doesn't always state it.

 

 

 

first: congrats Des, your first?

 

second: i've been reading my notifications and the dogpile on me is getting bigger. Still for shady reasons.

 

i've got better things to do than jump in here all the time when people demand i say something. 

 

i randomly picked Tina, which should've been obvious with the eeny meenie thing  *shrugs*

 

unvote dice

 

vote Mynd

 

no idea why you're ok lynching town. Taking advantage of an existing train imo. Ithi needs to stop her bulldogging on nonscum. If she won't listen, then she's a candidate as well. 

 

I also fail to see why i get all the crap for saying i'm not scum, and Pral is getting away softclaiming a town PR and doesn't get any further investigation.

 

Then there are so many people not posting in this game, maybe they all sit back, let townies fight and kill eachother, and they come in later for the NK.

 

Mynd, Ithi, and then, yes, i said it before, in the lurkers you will find scum more than likely.

 

questions? i might or might not answer... depends on who asks

 

 

Hallia, dawn, BFG, Pral.... all absent, not helping that they are not posting. Still think that Pral could do with some investigating after his claim.

 

Len: Chae could be right, but wrong as well.... haven't made up my mind yet.

 

Then Tsuki and Turin: townleans on both of them for their gameplay.

 

 

no idea how to get her to play.... maybe get some bananas in here. 

 

On the other hand: I said it before.... where's Pral? he soft claimed a town PR, and now he's gone under the radar.... 

 

 

not everyone is a PR.... and i think Pral's claim stinks. Or at least smells a bit.

 

 

Len: what is your view on Pral? Same Q for you Turin. 

 

 

quick post of thoughts, in general and from memory:

 

1. Thrax: townlean for the moment. solid, well thought of, explanatory posting.
2. Len: no idea... chae's gut feeling is usually right, but i haven't seen anything of him recently to believe he might be scum.
3. Mynd: yeah, still keeping my vote there. Call it bussing, i think there's a scummer right there.
4. Dawn: null, not in the game
5. Tina: started to get more active, which is good.
6. Turin: from what i saw, got a townfeel for him.
7. Despo: mixed feeling about that one. Could be scum, could be town... certainly wants me gone..
8. Hally: not much to go after... would've expected more by now (and not only sheeping on the obv target)
9. Chae: are gut feelings enough for a lynch? i dunno, i doubt it. But gut feelings can be right. Town for you for the moment.
10. Ithi: strongest townread in here.
11. Thane: is even town, yup (even if he has a really odd way to show it)
12. Tsuki: townread for now.
13. Dice: LD impression in this game, though didn't like the interaction with BFG.

14. Charis/BFG: Comes in with a focus on the obvious target, being me. Get the feeling she's going for an easy lynch with me. Scummy tingle.
15. Pral:made a few posts, soft claimed town PR, then vanished. Doubt it has to do with DM weekend 
16. Salami: claimed miller fast: Follows Chae without further investigation.... have some problems buying his story

 

Well, he was def obsessed with Pray, that's for sure.

 

It def seems over the top as far as signaling goes, but something I'm now considering is that he might have either been distancing or trying to direct a cop view possibly. I wouldn't be surprised to see Pray flip as GF because of this.

 

So go ahead and put him back in the questionable pile

 

 

It's weird how Despo "shelves" Pralaya to focus on Hallia and Lenlo and then immediately  launches into an attack on Pral.  Pretty much clears him for me.

 

 

@Pray: What are your reads on everyone currently?

 

@Hallia: Do you have any thoughts on other players that don't have to do with you, or them being late on a train? (both seemed like fake reasons to suspect someone)

 

@Lenlo: Sup bro? What's going on? What happened to the new and improved Lenlo that was able to have a distinct voice in mafia games lately? What are your thoughts on Thane flipping symp, does that change your read on any other players?

 

 

Questions his three targets.  Notice how Len's is a bit more personal than the others.  You could argue that it's because Len/Des have the most interaction and quote unquote camaraderie out of all these players, but idk if I agree with that.

 

Alright, just caught up

 

I feel like I asked some peeps some questions that never got answered.... or that might have been in another game. Anyhoo

 

Krak claiming to be blocked "again" stinks to high heaven. Someone explain to me why he hasn't been lynched yet? I believe he also said Thane wouldn't have known what roles the scum team had... even tho I clearly showed how that was likely Thane signaling to his teammates (calling out Chae/Krak's role as well as a GF, which I believed to be Hallia but meh, could be Lenlo or Pray)

 

Csarmi is sticking to try and convince everyone that Thane pulled a Tiinker and called out every one of his teammates in a single post. He also claimed earlier that I wasn't changing my reads, even tho he mentioned my changing stance on him in his "case" on me. Again, why is he still alive?

 

It doesn't get moar confirmed than Chae/Krak and Csarmi people. Last scum is in Lenlo, Pray, or Hallia.

 

Back to CSarmi as a major scum candidate.

 

@Lenlo: weren't you convinced Chae/Krak was scum for a long time? Why are you now voting Csarmi even tho I already mentioned that removing the scum JOAT is smarter than removing Csarmi, a likely goon?

 

Innocuous question

 

 

 

 

 

@Lenlo: weren't you convinced Chae/Krak was scum for a long time? Why are you now voting Csarmi even tho I already mentioned that removing the scum JOAT is smarter than removing Csarmi, a likely goon?

 

@Turin: I can't remember if you answered, why again are you voting Csarmi instead of Krak?

 

Oh, forgot to mention Csarmi's obvious fishing for investigative town PR's

 

 

I truly hope everyone understands to pretty much disregard everything he says now, I wish stuff like this could go without being said, but eh, it is what it is

 

@everyone not voting: What the freak? What are you waiting for?

Cause I want some competition between the two to see who people side with and what they say. Figure out who the last scum is, if I can. Im obviously fine with a lynch on either of them.

 

 

And yet up until and after this point Lenlo only ever concentrates on CSarmi (iirc)

 

 

Okay so this is a bit of tinfoiling, but also eh, could actually be something:

 

What if Csarmi is a GF? Claiming Miller seems to be the dumbest move ever as a GF, but at the same time mebbe he did it for ultimate wifom or something? That way if a Cop viewed him, he could discredit the cop claim?

 

I dunno, it's a stretch, but if Lenlo is scum I don't see why he would be so obvious as to switch his vote from Chak, who he's had as scum for so long (Chae called Lenlo out as her ONLY scum read D1 remember, even tho she tried shooting Turin instead), and vote Csarmi instead, unless it's some weird backwards distancing or something

 

Tag teams CS with Lenlo and defends Lenlo while providing a half-assed distancing bit.

 

 

 

 

@Lenlo: weren't you convinced Chae/Krak was scum for a long time? Why are you now voting Csarmi even tho I already mentioned that removing the scum JOAT is smarter than removing Csarmi, a likely goon?

 

@Turin: I can't remember if you answered, why again are you voting Csarmi instead of Krak?

 

Oh, forgot to mention Csarmi's obvious fishing for investigative town PR's

 

 

I truly hope everyone understands to pretty much disregard everything he says now, I wish stuff like this could go without being said, but eh, it is what it is

 

@everyone not voting: What the freak? What are you waiting for?

Cause I want some competition between the two to see who people side with and what they say. Figure out who the last scum is, if I can. Im obviously fine with a lynch on either of them.

 

 

Hmm fair enough

 

What are your thoughts on Pray? Hallia?

 

 

Don't know if I believe that town!Despo would be so easily swayed at this point.  I love that he asks Lenlo his thoughts on Pray and Hallia.

 

 

[Krakalakachkn]

WoD Pt. 2

 

 

 

I forgot about the countertrain yesterday as well- Tsuki is likely LOCK CLEAR since scum tried saving their symp

 

Tsuki is lock clear here - remember this

 

 

 

1) if I was scum I wouldn't feel aggravated
2) even if I wasn't an effing confirmed town I probably wouldn't be

I'd never ever make this claim as Mafia cause its so stupid, useless and outright suicide cause of cc

And I certainly wouldn't care try to solve the game.

 

Csarmi I'm just so freaking tired of you acting like it's CONFIRMED that there DEFINITELY would have been a Miller in this game

 

It's seriously such poor "logic" I just don't even...

 

Thing that sucks is, I AM reconsidering my read on Csarmi again

 

Purely because he's mentioned his pain and rl stuff multiple times lately, and I just don't get the feel that he'd be that slimy as to use that stuff to garner sympathy as scum

 

Regardless tho Csarmi, if you ARE town, you're not really helping this game at all since I think YOUR reads aren't that good and you're going so emo about being voted, which really makes no sense if you're a Miller. Your claim presents a load of WIFOM for town to chew on, and imo the way you have "cleared" Chae early game and Hallia later on is well, either bad or wolfy. I strongly suspect at least one scum in those two, or at least I did until I started doubting my reads a bit more.

 

I don't want to place a vote yet until I've reread the game to get a better grip and grooooooooan I just realized it's 100 pages. Bleurgh.

 

Screw it, I'm going YOLO

 

[v]Turin[/v]

 

Mainly because I feel he's trying to set me up- if Csarmi is scum he can say that me doubting my read was trying to save a partner, and if Csarmi flips town he can say I'm fencesitting or something. More importantly, I feel the way he's acting like NotBob "spew" (hints, which are dubious to try and read into since they may not have been hints at all) is more important than Rags "spew", even tho A)Rags was Cop, NotBob was either Role Cop or some other weaker investigative role B) Rags had one more night to possibly find scum than NotBob did, so yeah... C) Of the two, I think Rags was prob much more likely to be worried about being NK'ed since Ithi claimed D1 so he may have actually left more hints behind. NotBob's kill seemed much more out of left field

 

Speaking of which, if Rags viewed Pray as scum then it wouldn't go along with my theory that Thane was trying to direct town to view his team's GF (he pleaded for Pray to get investigated multiple times). I wanna do my own hunting for spew tonight, since I might not have enough time to reread the entire game (likely won't)

 

 

 

Suddenly Despo is reconsidering his lock scum on CS???

 

 

 

Okay first of all [/unvote]

 

I forgot about Turin being targeted by Chae/Krak's shot. Unless those two are scum together, which I highly doubt, then Turin is pretty much LOCK CLEAR again.

 

Now, the main reason I voted Turin was it seemed to me he was being too stubborn in his read on Csarmi, not being willing to change it whatsoever even tho Csarmi was wigging out in a way that would be both difficult to fake as scum AND would require Csarmi to be pretty slimy since he even talked about his health problems a good bit- I just don't see him as scum trying to use his health issues as a way to garner sympathy or affect a game in any way

 

Anyways, I just started my spewhunt, and after looking over NotBob's posts it does seem possible that Turin is convinced NotBob viewed Csarmi as some kind of non-miller role, I think I remember him doing a NotBob spew post a while ago. Not all that likely tho imo, and in any case we would only have one investigation from NotBob that he may have left hints regarding, so eh.

 

Here's what I found tho:

 

I shook the Magic 8-ball...

 

Vote Thrax/Dice 2.0

 

Thoughts?

 

This was his first vote Day 2, so I thought there might be something here, but later on NotBob explains this vote so this likely isn't any hint

 

 

For those who collect this sorta data...here you go...

 

1. Thrax/Dice 2.0 is mafia
2. Len is town
3. Dawn/NotBob is town
4. Mynd, Wiggins, Town 1-shot Gladiator, lynched D1
5. Tina is town
6. Turin is town
7. Despo is town
8. Hallia is town
9. Chae is mafia
10. Ithi is town
11. Thane is mafia
12. Tsuki is town
13. Dice, Toby the Dog, Town 2-shot Oracle, killed N1
14. Charis/BFG is town
15. Pral is town
16. Salami is town

 

 

Emphasized his scum reads, any of these could have been a hint but the one that stands out to me is the Chae read- he doesn't talk much about that read anymore after this, so eh. He does act pretty confident that Thane is scum later in the day, which could be nothing since Thane looked like obvscum earlier in the game imo, and the Chae read could be associative on that

 

I also emphasized the Salami read, he says town here...

 

unvote vote Thane

 

csarmi most likely scum  could vote him as well

 

But says Csarmi most likely scum here. Doesn't look like a hint to me, looks a lot more like a read developed during the day

 

 

for the record..... i doubt there's a single mafia on Tsuki's train right now.

 

roflmao

 

 

Just quoted one of the posts like these- NotBob def seemed very confident in Thane's scumminess

 

 

Notbob, what do you think of Tsuki?

 

I went back and reviewed the vote count...looks like scum to you eh?

 

I'd rather eliminate Thane first.  Care to join?

 

interested to hear what Ithi's replacement has to say...replacements always change the dynamics...why I suspect Thrax/Dice2.0 were scum...any reads there?

 

 

Here's where he explains his earlier Dice 2.0 vote and scumread, so almost definitely not a hint there

 

Conclusion: Not much help here, imo. If he viewed anyone N1 that helped him it was likely Thane, so yeahhhh I don't think he left us any "hints" as to viewings that could help us out

 

On to Ithi/Rags spew

 

 

Sneakily defends Thrax/Dice2.0 here.  Seems like he went out of his way to prove that Notbob did not investigate Dice2.0 despite his scum read on him.

 

 

Rags spew (I left Ithi out since she was mainly only active on D1, if I'm not mistaken she replaced out before really saying much D2 at all):

 

Well, I'm trying to read through people but it's a pain until someone reminds me how to solo search for a person's posts.  Did a search of everything involving Lenlo which is giving me a bit of a feel for things so far even though it involves a lot of other people's posts.

 

Such as Chae voting Len for no discernible reason and evidently trying to get people away from Thane.  Thane being loltastic.  Early townie lean on Lenlo.  And Des is pregnant.

 

 

Just finished Lenlo.  Townie lean, Thane and Chae have been his top two pretty consistently, seems to be trying to solve the game.  I did notice the fence sitting, but it came across as a townie who trusts his reads more than a scum acting like they are just so distraught.

 

Working on Chaelca right now as both you and Len have named her as top scum suspect.

 

So Mynd did the gladiator?  That...is hilarious.

 

On Hallia...was she pushed into claiming that or was it out of nowhere?  And how did she act once she claimed?

Why notbob?

 

The fact that his first two posts in the game he reiterates a town lean on Lenlo could be a hint of a Lenlo viewing... another explanation tho could be that he focused on Lenlo first for the reasons he gave- that Chae voting Lenlo for no reason looked weird and stuff.

 

Got through Turin.  Townie lean, but I just have this bad juju feel.  Dunno how to put my finger on it.

 

The wording of this seemed a bit odd to me, could have been a hint left behind... plus I also could see Ithi viewing Turin N1 since D1 she was still wary of him and I can see her wanting to make sure on her bonded

 

So for the N1 viewing I see it being either Turin or Lenlo

 

 

What about your "results" Rags?

Absolutely no reason for me to give out anything right now. 

 

 

This was during D3, Rags never seemed to leave any hints before this and this post seems to support that, that he hadn't hinted at it yet

 

Back and doing a bit more reading.  I'm really skeptical of some of the people on Tina.  Looking through Csarmi, Chrak and Pray again

 

This is the first time he's brought up Pray as a scumread, never mentioned him before this

 

Both.  Skeptical of Csarmi's claim, Krak considering how Chae acted, and Pray defended Csarmi's 'work' and said she thinks Chrak is town.  As for the train itself, I think it is trying to take advantage of Tina (supposedly) simply not being able to be as active.

 

This reasoning could have been the justification for the Pray read...

 

[v]Prayala[/v]

 

Believes Csarmi with little questioning that I saw.

Some of her read changes are all over the place with odd reasoning imo.  Goes from Hallia is scum to town to Thane prolly expected Hallia to save him, Chae as mafia to believing Krak cause he claimed to be RBed.

Thane as town.

Reason to vote mynd is expended gladiator.

Weird comments about how Len should have named 4 scum.

All over Tina because this hasn't been a town Tina but gives no explanation.

 

Here he votes Pray and gives a little case on him

 

Next post is SUPER significant tho imo

 

 

 

[v]Prayala[/v]

 

 

 

How is this vote Pro-Town this close to DL? Do you believe you can get him lynched?

 

Not necessarily, prolly won't keep my vote there the whole time as CS or Chrak are the two viable options imo.  I did want to get it on the record though.

 

 

So Tsuki challenges Rags on the Pray vote, not too long before deadline, and with the last bit I feel Rags was trying to hit us over the head with making it clear it was a hint- I am TOTALLY sold on Rags viewing Pray as scum N2 now

 

[v]Pray[/v]

 

Incidentally, this fits moar with my new view of the thread- Csarmi now seems to be town to me, so Tsuki looked scummy for his hardcore and antagonistic push against Csarmi. Add to that that he defends Pray out of nowhere, and I can def see a Pray/Tsuki scum pairing. Also add to that that my strongest town read in the game, BFG, put out a pretty good case on Tsuki being scum

 

As for the last slot... well I wanna view Thane spew myself (not right now, need to try and scramble to get caught up in other games in the less than 15 mins I have left), but Csarmi may have been right about Thane spewing Tina as his scummate with his "random" choosing of her. She also seemed a bit opportunistic in questioning my Turin vote, but eh that could be OMGUS. Still wary of Hallia too, even with a Csarmi town read, as I don't think using it on a teammate would have worked as well (what if there's someone saving a 1X Vig shot for when they REALLY know who scum might be?) once it was so out in the open

 

Regardless, I think we should lynch Pray and Tsuki now, they're easily my top two candidates for scum.

 

 

 

Seems that this spews Pralaya clear too?

 

Suddenly Tsuki is scum because he pushed hard on CS who Des had as a scum read?

 

Suddenly Lenlo and Hallia aren't in Despo's top scum reads.  Hallia I understand, but Lenlo?

 

And why would scum Des go out of his way to find posts from Rags/ithi and he then twists to show that Lenlo could have possibly maybe been peeked town N1?  It kinda only makes sense as a way to get a teammate off your scum reads list and focus on tag teaming town - Pray and (?)Tsuki.

 

[csarmi]

U mad bro?

 

*hides from the word*

[csarmi]

WoD

[csarmi]

Despo was weird last day.

 

First he followed my susp on Turin.

Then he followed me onto Pral.

Then he followed me onto Tina.

[csarmi]

Also "cleared me" with bs reasoning.

[Krakalakachkn]

 

Heh, when I started reading Des going back to NotBob's posts, I knew the whole plan is to eventually end up voting me. It was that obvious.

 

You can read my replies to Csarmi on the same vote by Rags. It doesn't even make sense if you look at how Rags tries to "put on record" a scum view at the final few hours of the day. Clearly, he was giving his read there.

 

Des is all over the place and is lock scum here. Trying to piggyback on Csarmi's analysis and using the same to vote me after realising that nobody is going to vote Turin. 

 

How does it not make sense? If you're a Cop and trying to leave breadcrumbs behind of who you've viewed, the timing of when you drop the hint doesn't really matter at all, as long as you get it out before you die.

 

The fact is, he made it clear he was "putting on record" his stance on you, which came out of nowhere that day, as in he hadn't ever previously fos'd you or anything. Even when challenged about it being close to deadline he remained solid in his stance. It did not look like getting out a read at all to me, it looks fairly obviously like a breadcrumb

 

I also remember Csarmi bringing this up making you uncomfortable.

 

 

Locking Pray in as scum

 

I went back to check my old notes and I see that my thoughts hasn´t changed much. I guess that is because we never got a lynch yesterday. It´s easier to evaluate my thoughts when getting confirmed alignments. 

 

 

People that I feel strongly about:

 

Tina - town

 

BFG - I don´t agree with her reads but the way she cc´d Thane on D1 still makes me think she is town. 

 

Turin - I have had a town feeling about him all game. Town

 

Tsuki - I didn´t like him at all in the beginning but after he compared all the lists I changed my mind. He is going after people that I´m suspicious of as well. Town.

 

Krak - Mafia. I don´t understand why he seems to be forgotten. Or I don´t see the reason why he would be town. Reminding everyone again about Chae´s play: defending Thane, making that weird list, claimed a strong pr but selfvoting (a role that Thane listed as a mafia role) and Thane defended her. 

 

Lenlo - Mafia. Some of the resons: The exchange with Ithi when he threathened to FOS her if she said that he overreacted (looks like he knew she was town), something about three mafia members (actually that is something that I found in my notes and I don´t remember what if means but I´m writing it down anyway) and his tunelling on Csarmi. Turin and Tsuki is also tunelling Csarmi in a way but they still comment others as well. 

 

 

 

People that I don´t have much oppinions on (people that I should read more about) and thus is null:

 

Pral - I don´t know about NotBob´s hint/not hint. I´m on the fence because 1) it actually looks like he is giving a clear signal of Pral but 2) by stating it so clear wouldn´t it be a signal to mafia as well? Why would he? Why not say that he found mafia or be quiet about it until the next day?  I need to think about this more. Other than this I don´t remember much about Pral at all.

 

Des - his Turin vote was strange but now he unvoted him. That is the only thing that has stood out to me. I can´t remember much about his play at all. 

 

Dice - he has gone after me in a strange way but that is the only thing that has stood out to me. I never understood the case on X from day one. 

 

 

And now to Csarmi and Hally: 

 

My read on Hally changed during the game. My meta read on her says that she wouldn´t claim like that if she was mafia but she hasn´t showed any signs of scumhunting. Her votes on Tsuki from yesterday was weird. She voted him, realised that she had misunderstood him, unvoted him but followed Csarmi when he voted Tsuki. Today she has just parked her vote there again. I think it was a bad decision to save Csarmi. Well, good for them if both are mafia.

 

Csarmi: It´s the same with him. I believed his claim at first but he hasn´t played good at all and I really don´t understand why he would selfvote but then fight for his life again if town. Turin has had some good points against him. The one thing that is troubling me is that Lenlo is tunelling so on Csarmi since I have Lenlo as mafia.

 

 

Vote Csarmi

 

 

I think it´s a good chance that he is mafia but getting his alignment would help even if he is town. His flip will help with my read on at least Hally and Lenlo. If Csarmi is mafia then I think the case for Hally gets stronger and Lenlo´s gets weaker. The opposite if Csarmi is town. 

 

Also locking in Tina as scum after this post. Her vote on Csarmi is lolbad. She votes him even while saying she has reasonable doubt he might not be scum.

 

WOW.

 

Moar obvious, Tina?

 

Let's vote Despo.

 

He flip flopped on me for bad reasoning both times. Clearing me because char shot at me. Either he knows she is mafia or he shouldn't clear me for that. Cause vigs can be wron and shoot at either faction.

 

Loading now so not.much time.

 

Since apparently I have to spell it out for you-

 

I don't think Chak was blocked N1. She hadn't claimed yet, and if she was town then I don't see why scum would have blocked her there. Makes no sense.

 

It DOES make sense however if her target that night had some kind of protection, "blocking" the shot. Basically I think you're either Doc or you have a BPV or something. In either case, I think this makes you far more likely to be town. We haven't seen any extra deaths any night, so I don't see why a scummer would have a BPV (having one to block a single JOAT shot is dumb and doesn't seem worth it).

 

Vigs can be wrong and shoot at either faction, but if there target stays alive, it DOES point to that target being town in this scenario

 

And if he has chae mafia for shooting at me then that should be hos strongest read. But he is voting Pralaya on weak reasoning of a possible view hint.

 

Despo is definitely mafia.

 

Le sigh. I haven't had Chak as scum for a couple of days now. I don't have her/him as mafia because they shot you. I simply said for this not to clear you, you two would have to be mafia together (and that Chak completely lied about being "blocked"), and I personally don't see that.

 

When Krak lied down with his "Fair enough" post it made me think he was town after all. Also, I felt I had to get a different perspective on the game since Chae/Csarmi/Hallia didn't seem as confident a pick for the scum team anymore. Once both Chak and Csarmi started seeming townie, the connections between the and Hallia didn't seem as strong PLUS Hallia then saved Csarmi, it all spelled out that I was looking at the game in the wrong way

 

 

So Tina replaces Lenlo as scum

 

So def sticking with Pray/Tsuki/Tina now. Pray is flustered that Rags left a hint behind incriminating him, and Tsuki and Tina both continued the antagonistic push against Csarmi again today (acting like his self-vote was that significant even tho it was for CONSOLIDATION). All three are LOCK SCUM for me.

 

My town reads: BFG for the boldness of her CC earlier in the game, and tho she hasn't been super active when she has posted she's made very good posts, Turin since I think he's Doc or some other kind of protective role, Csarmi who looks like a Miller after all, especially considering the dogmatic pushes against him for a while now, Chak who I think now played a bad game when Chae was in the game, but after Krak took over I think they haven't looked like scrambling scum, and have posted in a reasonable manner, and Hallia who again I think displayed bad judgement with how she claimed and then used her role BUT saved a likely townie so thinking she's town.

 

My only nulls are Dice 2.0, who's enthusiasm at reentering the game seemed >rand to be townie to me, but is stuck on Hallia tunnel now for a little while, would be nice to get his thoughts on my scum reads, and Lenlo, who hasn't played a good game at all but I think it's possible Ithi/Rags viewed him N1 (I showed that in my spewhunt on Rags)

 

Continues to push Pray, Tsuki goes from LOCKCLEAR to scum for pushing CS, and Tina is now scum too.

 

Don't forget Dice is null and Lenlo is still null/town for Rag's possibly viewing him N1.

 

 

Still doesn't make sense why Des pushed so hard on Lenlo yet never voted him and then gave a half-assed reason to clear him and then puts Tina and Tsuki on his scum list for doing exactly what Lenlo did (push CS).

 

I'm in a pissy mood so prob shouldn't even be posting this but w/e

 

Turin, at the very least if you're town you're WRONG about me. I think I've done a very good job of broadcasting my towniness throughout this game. I've looked to #solve, have considered new info and let my reads adapt to that, and have done as much #work as anyone to help catch scum.

 

I REALLY don't like you acting like we should all just trust you on this even tho you're being cryptic as hell when town needs ALL THE INFO IT CAN GET, but screw it. We have multiple scum to catch, not just one.

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Tina[/v]

 

 

 

W/e. I'm done with it. Most of my frustration isn't coming from this game, I'm just letting it spill out here. Sorry for that.

 

Regardless, I'm feeling very strongly about Pray, Tina, and Tsuki being scum together. If I'm wrong about any of those, then Lenlo gets shoved in the slot.

 

Bye.

 

Suddenly Lenlo is back in it?

 

 

 

 

And that's it for Despo.

 

 

 

 

 

Tina, what makes you sure Len is mafia?

 

Don't care about my reasons?

[Krakalakachkn]

Len and Dice are most likely to be scum imo.  Len more than Dice.  Dice some because it seemed that everyone was suspicious of Thrax D1 and then it suddenly petered out.

 

 

If we read Despo's post believing the rule of thirds, when Lenlo left his scum list then he logically had to replace him.  Pray is town imo and so either Dice or Tina.

[Turin Turambar]

I like what you gave there krak. It expounds on.my thought of Despo keeping a teammate as a mafia read yet finding someone else to go after in every case.

 

It looks like too consistent of a stance of " he's scummy but look over here first.

 

What do you think about X/Dice?

[Turin Turambar]

Ninja.

[Krakalakachkn]

They call me the 8 minute ninja.

[Turin Turambar]

LOL

[csarmi]

So any info Turin? Waiting for more input?

[csarmi]

Anyway.

 

[V]Len[/v]

[csarmi]

There's no way he's town so why not.

 

Please, carry on.

[Pralaya]

Hah ! Turin for GOAT doc. Nice save, man.

[v]Dice[/v]

Let's go for the obvious scum, guys. We will figure out the rest later.

X was pinging Day 1. D2, Dice voted Tsuki to push as a counter to Thane. D4, he tried to influence Hally to governor save Des. 

And, well
 

scum must be spewin!!  they tried to get rid of me and im back!! AND im still TOWN!!
 
 
hehehehehehehehehehehehehe
 
 
 
yes thats right Xthrax is town

This was his first post after replacing X. Dude is obvscum.

[Krakalakachkn]

TALK TO ME LENLO!  

 

YOU CAN'T HIDE FOREVER!

 

NOR SHOULD YOU WANT TO!

 

UNLESS YOU'RE SCUM!

 

EVEN THEN YOU STILL SHOULD WANT TO!

[Krakalakachkn]

@Turin

 

Who did you protect?

[Krakalakachkn]

/in b4 self-protect

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

 

Vote Count:

 

Lenlo (3): Krak, Tina, Csarmi

csarmi (1): lenlo

dice (2): Turin, pray

 

not voting (4): dice, Hally, Tsuki, BFG

 

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

 

DL is Tuesday, July 8th, at 9 PM EST

[Tsukibana]

Krak - When you your action failed N1 and N2, was the wording any different?

 

Krak - Any reason not to tell us what you tried to do last night, and whether or not it succeeded? (Don't need to know the target).

[csarmi]

Len looks confirmed enough to me.

[Tsukibana]

Turin - Night One, did you self-protect? Yes or No.

[Krakalakachkn]

Krak - When you your action failed N1 and N2, was the wording any different?

 

Krak - Any reason not to tell us what you tried to do last night, and whether or not it succeeded? (Don't need to know the target).

 

I cannot answer the first because Chae received the official PM, not me.  I got it second-hand but I doubt the wording was any different.

 

I had a role block and I wasn't informed if it succeeded or failed.  Like the Doc Protect N3, I wouldn't get a result either way.

[Tsukibana]

 

Krak - When you your action failed N1 and N2, was the wording any different?

 

Krak - Any reason not to tell us what you tried to do last night, and whether or not it succeeded? (Don't need to know the target).

 

I cannot answer the first because Chae received the official PM, not me.  I got it second-hand but I doubt the wording was any different.

 

I had a role block and I wasn't informed if it succeeded or failed.  Like the Doc Protect N3, I wouldn't get a result either way.

 

 

And from what you read, and what you were told - Were you role blocked?