Sherlock Holmes Role Madness Mafia Town wins

[hazelkrs1]

@Lenlo: weren't you convinced Chae/Krak was scum for a long time? Why are you now voting Csarmi even tho I already mentioned that removing the scum JOAT is smarter than removing Csarmi, a likely goon?

 

@Turin: I can't remember if you answered, why again are you voting Csarmi instead of Krak?

 

Oh, forgot to mention Csarmi's obvious fishing for investigative town PR's

 

 

I truly hope everyone understands to pretty much disregard everything he says now, I wish stuff like this could go without being said, but eh, it is what it is

 

@everyone not voting: What the freak? What are you waiting for?

[hazelkrs1]

 

Vote count:

 

csarmi (2): Turin, Len

chak (3): des, Tina, hally

des (1): csarmi

Tina (1): dice

Not voting (5): Chak, Rags, Tsuki, BFG, Pral

 

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch DL is Fri. June 27th at 9 PM

 

Http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140627T21&p0=422

No change from here afaik

 

 

Amongst the non-voters: Chak is already confirmed, Rags was Ithi and still a town read for me, nothing he's done since then has changed that and he just replaced in so nothing suspicious there, Tsuki was a town read, and iirc was on the same page as me so I'm not sure why he hasn't voted yet, BFG is LOCK CLEAR but busy I suppose, and Pray was already on my radar

[Lenlo]

@Lenlo: weren't you convinced Chae/Krak was scum for a long time? Why are you now voting Csarmi even tho I already mentioned that removing the scum JOAT is smarter than removing Csarmi, a likely goon?

 

@Turin: I can't remember if you answered, why again are you voting Csarmi instead of Krak?

 

Oh, forgot to mention Csarmi's obvious fishing for investigative town PR's

 

 

I truly hope everyone understands to pretty much disregard everything he says now, I wish stuff like this could go without being said, but eh, it is what it is

 

@everyone not voting: What the freak? What are you waiting for?

Cause I want some competition between the two to see who people side with and what they say. Figure out who the last scum is, if I can. Im obviously fine with a lynch on either of them.

[hazelkrs1]

Okay so this is a bit of tinfoiling, but also eh, could actually be something:

 

What if Csarmi is a GF? Claiming Miller seems to be the dumbest move ever as a GF, but at the same time mebbe he did it for ultimate wifom or something? That way if a Cop viewed him, he could discredit the cop claim?

 

I dunno, it's a stretch, but if Lenlo is scum I don't see why he would be so obvious as to switch his vote from Chak, who he's had as scum for so long (Chae called Lenlo out as her ONLY scum read D1 remember, even tho she tried shooting Turin instead), and vote Csarmi instead, unless it's some weird backwards distancing or something

[hazelkrs1]

 

@Lenlo: weren't you convinced Chae/Krak was scum for a long time? Why are you now voting Csarmi even tho I already mentioned that removing the scum JOAT is smarter than removing Csarmi, a likely goon?

 

@Turin: I can't remember if you answered, why again are you voting Csarmi instead of Krak?

 

Oh, forgot to mention Csarmi's obvious fishing for investigative town PR's

 

 

I truly hope everyone understands to pretty much disregard everything he says now, I wish stuff like this could go without being said, but eh, it is what it is

 

@everyone not voting: What the freak? What are you waiting for?

Cause I want some competition between the two to see who people side with and what they say. Figure out who the last scum is, if I can. Im obviously fine with a lynch on either of them.

 

 

Hmm fair enough

 

What are your thoughts on Pray? Hallia?

[hazelkrs1]

I forgot about the countertrain yesterday as well- Tsuki is likely LOCK CLEAR since scum tried saving their symp

[hazelkrs1]

Alright, gonna check up on other games. I'm on my 5 day break fyi, so my activity might be a little sporadic

[csarmi]

Despo do you seriously try to get away with trying to line up those lynches?

 

Get @ me then...

 

I'm all but confirmed town but whatever.

 

Seriously guys what are you even doing?

[Lenlo]

Despo do you seriously try to get away with trying to line up those lynches?

 

Get @ me then...

 

I'm all but confirmed town but whatever.

 

Seriously guys what are you even doing?

How, /HOW/, are you conf town? Nothing you have done is indicative of this.

[Lenlo]

To be short, claiming Miller =/= conf town. You need some, you know, town gameplay for that.

[csarmi]

Seriously I got zero sympathy for y'all.

 

I lock cleared myself by my claim. Then I did what little I could day one and read Chae for you.

 

Which is s blessing as she just didn't add much and even had to be replaced.

 

It's day three now. Half the game isn't even voting and the other half I'd voting town trains despite my probably #solve.

 

Oh and cdntering the discussion on players who shouldn't even be considered.

 

Well whatever. If you guys don't start playing soon we gonna lose this but carry on.

 

I can't do more than this.

 

Play? Someone? Maybe? Vote the scum?

[csarmi]

To be short, claiming Miller =/= conf town. You need some, you know, town gameplay for that.

Yes it is.

 

But you're scum so... Go ahead and do your thing - YOU are doing what you should.

[Lenlo]

 

To be short, claiming Miller =/= conf town. You need some, you know, town gameplay for that.

Yes it is.

 

But you're scum so... Go ahead and do your thing - YOU are doing what you should.

 

Explain how claiming miller is conf town? Because anyone can claim miller. Anyone. I could do it right now if I wanted to. Thats how easy claiming is. Making it believable and supporting/proving it is the hard part.

[csarmi]

Yea you could cc me. And either die right noe or even I flip.

 

And stop berating my play.

 

I'm giving my damnedest despite the fact I can hardly even sit anymore (so zero play from comp). And when I say i can hardly even sit I mean just that.

[Lenlo]

Im not berating your play, and im sorry if it came across as such, im merely calling into question the believablity of your claim at this point in the game.

[Pralaya]

[v]Tina[/v]

 

Come on, her vote on krak was out of the blue and quite opportunistic. You can tell me that I am tunneling her since D1, but seriously I don't know how she is getting a free pass till now. She has not at been like a town Tina.

[Krakalakachkn]

I believe he also said Thane wouldn't have known what roles the scum team had... even tho I clearly showed how that was likely Thane signaling to his teammates (calling out Chae/Krak's role as well as a GF, which I believed to be Hallia but meh, could be Lenlo or Pray)

How in hell does that fly?

You clearly showed? Wtf man. That's completely unsubstantiated and you trying to use that as evidence against me is bad.

 

Again, why would Chae claim JOAT in that instance? It's pretty obvious that she wouldn't have. And now you believe that she(I) is(am) the scum JOaT? I seem to remember you disregarding her claim (please prove me wrong if I am). You trying to push me as scum JOAT is so bad.

[Pralaya]

I can believe kraks play so far. Him getting blocked today was more or less certain if the scum had a RB. His N1 block ringing true is more of a gut feel.

[Krakalakachkn]

And why do you think that post is more likely his call out post than the one where he went

 

"And there's probably scum amongst the lurkers, eeny meeny meiny Tina."

 

Give me a break.

 

 

 

Also answer me this, how would Thane have known mafia roles? You think he had access to the QT?

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

 

Vote count:

 

csarmi (2): Turin, Len

chak (3): des, Tina, hally

des (1): csarmi

Tina (2): : dice, pray

 

Not voting (4): Chak, Rags, Tsuki, BFG

 

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

 

DL is Fri. June 27th at 9 PM

 

Http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140627T21&p0=422

[csarmi]

Krak do we get some analysis from you and reads and such?

 

Ty.

[csarmi]

What's the Tina case besides the event meeny bit?

[csarmi]

Eeny

[Krakalakachkn]

I'm at work so no analysis now. I'll get to it tonight.

[dicetosser1]

 

To be short, claiming Miller =/= conf town. You need some, you know, town gameplay for that.

Yes it is.

 

But you're scum so... Go ahead and do your thing - YOU are doing what you should.

 

Blue

 

No its not. I never got to clear you as oracle. No LD has come forward to say that you saying you were a miller is true.

 

As a miller, without these 2 things or a town role cop you CANT be CONFIRMED.

 

Are people likely to believe you? yes. but that is not CONFIRMED as you well know.

 

 

Re Krak being blocked.  If he IS town and there is a mafia RB then it is very likely he would be blocked for as long as possible.  We did it recently to Thane in a game.

 

 

I think there is a low lying mafia member. And im thinking its either Tina Des or Turin.  Tina has been pretty inactive and even her reads she gave did not really tell us that much.

 

I have a bad feeling about Des' last set of posts. He is doing nothing but push chae/krak. While this could be a town tunnel it might not be too. Add that too my usual paranoia regarding Des and I have gotten wary.

 

Turin is very capable of pulling off a Double Agent role.  Can make him self seem town totally when he is not. I think he is town but am wary of this being a hoax.