Sherlock Holmes Role Madness Mafia Town wins

[hazelkrs1]

 

I for one, doubt scum would get so lucky with their shot. I suspect Role Cop.

Isn't Town Detective a role cop? At least, that is what I get from google.

 

 

Yeah you're right. It's not on Mafiascum, but on Epicmafia a Detective is a town Role Cop. Just kinda assumed he was the Cop once I saw it was Sherlock.

 

Okay then, that means we're in better shape than I thought

 

Also means scum may have just gotten lucky. Still, think it's better to get rid of the scum JOAT before they get to use any more abilities.

[hazelkrs1]

Gotta love the nightly 5 am DM Cloudflare flareup

 

[csarmi]

Well either scum is VERY lucky or we have tons of great roles. Losing the Oracle is a big penalty and the detective looks bad too. Hopefully we got more.

[hazelkrs1]

 

 

 

Turin, don't you think it would be more wise to lynch the scum JOAT today, rather than Csarmi who is likely a goon?

  Yup. Let's mislynch Chrak first, then come up with a way to lynch Csarmi and the game is in the bag for you.  What about... NOT

   What stunning defense   ....NOT     

 

I'd say we start with Despo from the scum team.  [v]Despo[/v]  I'm happy to lynch any of them though.

   OMGUS much Cscumalarmi?      Srs do, I do appreciate how you don't give up easily as scum. Quite admirable.  

 

Note: in all likelyhood we have a single mislynch left unless we got a vig who shoots a scummers (if we do, it's high time for that). I'd say game started with 4 scum, 1 symp and 11 townies (there is a chance it was 3-1-12 but I find that less likely, cause normally the role madness would give some extra power to town).  Also we might just need some actions/result so if anyone has anything, it might be time to act.

   Obligatory setup spec post and invitation for someone else to derail the lynch on him or scumbuddy Krak

[hazelkrs1]

Sorry, copied the code while I was getting cloudflared, it removed all the line breaks

[hazelkrs1]

Well either scum is VERY lucky or we have tons of great roles. Losing the Oracle is a big penalty and the detective looks bad too. Hopefully we got more.

 

It is kinda funny in that both of those roles could have vetted any role claims that someone made. Which will make me very wary of any future off the wall role claims.

[hazelkrs1]

One thing I'm kinda hung up on now is the last scum spot (assuming 4 total scum)

 

Hallia seemed definite for a while, but I'm kinda tinfoiling there, since it just seems kind of unlikely that the scum team would have outed themselves so fully with all the interconnections. I know I've been on a roll lately, but even I would be surprised if I was able to pick out all the scum that early on. Chae and Csarmi likely thought they could get away with defending one another respectively, but to have them all rolled up together so cleanly? Plus... I will say that it seems kinda doubtful that Hallia would be able to fake that confidence in her posts for so long as scum. I could see passing it off for a little while, but she's acted pretty confident for a pretty long time now. The way she claimed did seem pretty scummeriffic, so it might just be that I've had confbias since then.

 

As of now I'm thinking either Lenlo or Pray for that last scum spot. Lenlo hasn't really said anything to make me feel any better about him, and doesn't seem to be nearly as active the past few days at all (I know he was in court or something recently, but his activity dipped down even before that). Pray was somewhat connected to one of my other scum reads a while ago iirc, and I remember him sniping at me not too long ago either, but hasn't really followed up on it.

[hazelkrs1]

Ahh wait now I remember. Thane kept trying to shout for everyone to look at Pray D1 if I'm not mistaken.

 

That could have been him signaling, but eh I dunno I kinda doubt that. Iirc, Thane brought Pray up numerous times. I'll have to go back and check in a bit to check it out again, but yeah that might have spewed Pray as town if Thane knew who his teammates were (which we won't be finding out anytime soon, but meh)

 

So shelve the Pray read for now. Will go back to Lenlo or Hallia for last scummeh.

[hazelkrs1]

first: congrats Des, your first?

 

second: i've been reading my notifications and the dogpile on me is getting bigger. Still for shady reasons.

 

i've got better things to do than jump in here all the time when people demand i say something. 

 

i randomly picked Tina, which should've been obvious with the eeny meenie thing  *shrugs*

 

unvote dice

 

vote Mynd

 

no idea why you're ok lynching town. Taking advantage of an existing train imo. Ithi needs to stop her bulldogging on nonscum. If she won't listen, then she's a candidate as well. 

 

I also fail to see why i get all the crap for saying i'm not scum, and Pral is getting away softclaiming a town PR and doesn't get any further investigation.

 

Then there are so many people not posting in this game, maybe they all sit back, let townies fight and kill eachother, and they come in later for the NK.

 

Mynd, Ithi, and then, yes, i said it before, in the lurkers you will find scum more than likely.

 

questions? i might or might not answer... depends on who asks

 

 

Hallia, dawn, BFG, Pral.... all absent, not helping that they are not posting. Still think that Pral could do with some investigating after his claim.

 

Len: Chae could be right, but wrong as well.... haven't made up my mind yet.

 

Then Tsuki and Turin: townleans on both of them for their gameplay.

 

 

no idea how to get her to play.... maybe get some bananas in here.

 

On the other hand: I said it before.... where's Pral? he soft claimed a town PR, and now he's gone under the radar.... 

 

 

not everyone is a PR.... and i think Pral's claim stinks. Or at least smells a bit.

 

 

Len: what is your view on Pral? Same Q for you Turin. 

 

 

quick post of thoughts, in general and from memory:

 

1. Thrax: townlean for the moment. solid, well thought of, explanatory posting.

2. Len: no idea... chae's gut feeling is usually right, but i haven't seen anything of him recently to believe he might be scum.

3. Mynd: yeah, still keeping my vote there. Call it bussing, i think there's a scummer right there.

4. Dawn: null, not in the game

5. Tina: started to get more active, which is good.

6. Turin: from what i saw, got a townfeel for him.

7. Despo: mixed feeling about that one. Could be scum, could be town... certainly wants me gone..

8. Hally: not much to go after... would've expected more by now (and not only sheeping on the obv target)

9. Chae: are gut feelings enough for a lynch? i dunno, i doubt it. But gut feelings can be right. Town for you for the moment.

10. Ithi: strongest townread in here.

11. Thane: is even town, yup (even if he has a really odd way to show it)

12. Tsuki: townread for now.

13. Dice: LD impression in this game, though didn't like the interaction with BFG.

14. Charis/BFG: Comes in with a focus on the obvious target, being me. Get the feeling she's going for an easy lynch with me. Scummy tingle.

15. Pral:made a few posts, soft claimed town PR, then vanished. Doubt it has to do with DM weekend 

16. Salami: claimed miller fast: Follows Chae without further investigation.... have some problems buying his story

 

Well, he was def obsessed with Pray, that's for sure.

 

It def seems over the top as far as signaling goes, but something I'm now considering is that he might have either been distancing or trying to direct a cop view possibly. I wouldn't be surprised to see Pray flip as GF because of this.

 

So go ahead and put him back in the questionable pile

[hazelkrs1]

I say directing a cop view cause he says over and over that Pray needs to be investigated

[hazelkrs1]

@Pray: What are your reads on everyone currently?

 

@Hallia: Do you have any thoughts on other players that don't have to do with you, or them being late on a train? (both seemed like fake reasons to suspect someone)

 

@Lenlo: Sup bro? What's going on? What happened to the new and improved Lenlo that was able to have a distinct voice in mafia games lately? What are your thoughts on Thane flipping symp, does that change your read on any other players?

[hazelkrs1]

Will try and do some vote train analysis tomorrow. Gotta go for now, be nice kiddos

[dicetosser1]

 

i dont believe you either Hally. Governor has a scum version.

 

 

vote hally

 

 

thats not conf bias des   thats a good read.

 

its also a good point about hally.

 

unvote

 

vote thane

I'm assuming the good point was Des's point saying about a wasted lynch?

 

 

 

Why would anyone care if your action failed? You were Roleblocked. It happens.  By stating you are JOAT, you just ensured yoe ARE RBed for the rest of the game, assuming you survive the day... Put your money where your mouth is - what action did you try?? Nice way to make it seem I am casing YOU, instead of your whole team. In fact, during the case, I never mentioned your English mistake even once. I DARE YOU TO FIND IT.

 

Nice that my main 3 scum show up. Where's the HubbyScum?

 

Poor Hallia. GF to this group... at least CS has avoided blatant misrepping to OMGUS me. Again, Chae, go find anywhere in my WoT where I mentioned your grammar issue. I will wait.

 

This pinged to me hardcore. Town should care. She may actually be that role. but then he goes Action fishing..

 

Tsuki seems to be getting more and more aggresive and the tone of these posts is one i dont like. When asked a question he has a glib line rather then an answer.

 

unvote vote Tsuki

 

Why Tsuki over Hallia?

 

 

yes the good point was Des' 

 

Tsuki was pinging me hard. I still dont trust him but have to concede his posts before he set me off were townie.

 

 

time for lurkiness to end

 

Vote Tina

 

come out and play Tina!

[csarmi]

I believe you to be scum since the Thane spew, so no its not omgus (unless from your side).

 

I wouldn't give a damn here if I was scum BTW and you know it.

 

In fact I don't care much as town either except I want my team to win and we can't afford mislynching an all but confirmed townie (yes that's me and I did explain why).

 

I'd be more than happy to be out... But it'd be detrimental to town :-(

[csarmi]

... and again, if you believe it makes any kind of sense to try and fake claim Miller on page one as mafia in a role madness game with this theme where you're about 80%+ to be counterclaimed, I really don't know what to tell you.

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

Vote count:

 

csarmi (1): turin

chak (1): des

des (1): csarmi

Tina (1): dice

 

Not voting (8): Chak, Len, Rags, Tina, Hally, Tsuki, BFG, Pral

 

 

 

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch DL is Fri. June 27th at 9 PM EST.

 

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140627T21&p0=422

[Basel Gill]

Hally has notified us that she will be inactive for a couple days due to family medical issues. She will be back.

[TheRagnarok]

Morning all. 

 

Just thought of something.  What is standard for a symp to know on this site? 

[Lenlo]

Alright here, done with court stuffs and catching up.

[Turin Turambar]

I think it is fairly commo for a JOAT yo havevroles that are redundant with other roles in the game. It is even possible that the mafia JOAT has something like role cop, track, kill, ( maybe 1 more).

 

As to NotBob, it makes me question his dice vote yesterday. Maybe he saw a rolevthat could go either way and wanted to pressure to get a reveal. He could confirm the role claim that way.

 

Gotta drive again. Later

[Turin Turambar]

Oh rags, symp could have various things. Some can see the mafia QT. Some know one or more names of team. Is pure mod choice. In a previous game I was symp we knew nothing.

[Basel Gill]

Oh rags, symp could have various things. Some can see the mafia QT. Some know one or more names of team. Is pure mod choice. In a previous game I was symp we knew nothing.

I should've made you Sgt. Schultz.

[hazelkrs1]

My last name is Schoultz. I always love doing the "I KNOW NOTHING!!!!" line

[hazelkrs1]

Also-

 

[hazelkrs1]

Srs do. We will NEVER know exactly how much Thane knew about his team.

 

But consider this-

 

Thane, an admitted newbie who is still learning the ropes of this game (<3 you tho bud, don't quit on us, just get a mentor or something that can help you out a bit), comes into a ROLE MADNESS game, and starts acting like he thinks he has a handle on what roles will be in the game (and lists JOAT and GF).

 

 

Someone else (Chae) comes forward after initially soft defending him, and hardcore defends him because she thinks he has extra information bout the setup EVEN THO HE HAD ALREADY CLAIMED VANILLA (Irene Adler VT but let's not go down that road again)

 

 

She THEN clarifies later on that she is, in fact, a JOAT which is why she defended him like she did. One of the roles he named the scum team would have.

 

 

And then he flips Symp

 

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It could not get ANY MOAR obvious imo that Chae's team realized he was a symp, so she kind of sillily tried defending him. It worked too, for a while, till GOATDESPOT showed up and smacked some sense into yall.

 

Any who refrain from voting Chae/Krak from this point forward will be claiming scum in my eyes.