[Basic] Eye of the World Mafia (Darkfriends win)

[hazelkrs1]

In any case, if Krak is town, that leaves Kaylee, Hallia, and NotBob. Who do y'all think could be the townie in that group, assuming Krak is town?

[hazelkrs1]

At the very least, the last two days in this game have taught me that #LazyDespot isn't as good at mafia as I thought he was

 

[Verbal32]

In any case, if Krak is town, that leaves Kaylee, Hallia, and NotBob. Who do y'all think could be the townie in that group, assuming Krak is town?

 

If that situation was 100% true, I'd pick NotBob as the townie right now.

[Leelou]

In any case, if Krak is town, that leaves Kaylee, Hallia, and NotBob. Who do y'all think could be the townie in that group, assuming Krak is town?

 

BoOb

[Verbal32]

I'm still giggling over my NotBoob post a while back.  Top 10 for sure.

[Kaylee]

Didn't say we should lynch Krak, just that it was convenient and I could see Despo's point. I've had Krak as a town read also. Hally is who I want to look back at come day.

[hazelkrs1]

Aight, I'll roll with that then

 

The way activity has gone in this game, you can either whine about it if town loses, or else accept your part in it.

 

So Kaylee and Hallia, looks like y'all are up. I trust Verbal and Leelou. Tell me why they are wrong, and why I should read either of you as town.

[hazelkrs1]

Didn't say we should lynch Krak, just that it was convenient and I could see Despo's point. I've had Krak as a town read also. Hally is who I want to look back at come day.

If Krak is town, then who else could be scum with Hallia, in your opinion?

[Kaylee]

 

Didn't say we should lynch Krak, just that it was convenient and I could see Despo's point. I've had Krak as a town read also. Hally is who I want to look back at come day.

If Krak is town, then who else could be scum with Hallia, in your opinion?

Really not sure. Possibly NotBob as I had him and Tina last as unsure before her claim.

[Kaylee]

Ilk look back over everyone come day.

[Niniel]

I did a big re-read yesterday and the only one I was sure was mafia was Lenlo. Doh! 

 

My gut says Des is worth looking at. Haven´t liked NotBob either but I guess he would be town if Hally is mafia. Too tired to think right now. 

[WWWwombat]

It was the wolf dream again.  Perrin could tell just from how real it felt.  He was in a room with a stone floor, a wooden table, and a large fireplace.  On the table sat three action figures figurines.  Or rather, one figurine and the remains of two others.  The one that was intact was a burly young man with a wolf at his side.  Perrin recognized himself.  He didn't like what was happening to him, but at least it offered him some protection.  Just then Hobbes Hopper appeared in the room.

 

Foolish cub.  You must leave this place.  It is not safe.  Heartfang wants you.

Alright Hopper, how do I lea--

Too late!

 

The fire in the hearth dimmed, consumed by shadow.  Out of it walked a man whose eyes were caverns of fire.  Ba'alzamon.  Hopper bared his teeth and growled.  Ba'alzamon casually flicked his hand and Hopper disappeared with a terrifying howling sound that ate at Perrin's soul.

 

"So nice of you to come, fool.  I knew that if I made this place you would be drawn to it.  Time to snip the last ta'veren thread.  I will blind the Eye of the World itself and kill the Great Serpent."

 

"I deny you, Ba'alzamon."

 

"Fool," Ba'alzamon laughed "It is far too late for that.  Now you die, and in death, you shall serve me."

 

A searing pain manifested in Perrin's chest.  He felt like his soul was being ripped from his body.  Perrin set his feet and howled.  He tasted blood in his mouth.  Rock-hard stubborn Two Rivers blood strengthened by bestial rage would have to hold him together.  But it didn't.  Perrin felt himself pulling apart.  He tried to back away but couldn't move.  He was being pulled toward Ba'alzamon.  The caverns of fire grew in his vision until they consumed him.

 

 

 

Krak, Perrin Aybara, Vanilla Town, has been nightkilled.

[WWWwombat]

It is now Day 5.  With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

[hazelkrs1]

Whelp

 

We got a good bit of time for this, and I wanna do a full reread before placing a vote. Ran out of time at work cause well, #LazyDespot

[hazelkrs1]

Will try and wake up early and get it done this afternoon however, shouldn't take long since the game is only 47 pages long

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

Final Vote Count

 

Lenlo(5): Kaylee, Des, Leelou, Hallia, NotBob

Hallia(1): Krak

 

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

 

I wasn't sure on Lenlo but I hammered cause I fully expect to see the scum on Lenlo's train.

 

My reads from scum to town.

 

Hallia/Leelou:  still don't like that interplay from Day 1 when they went after Dawn and they've done nothing since to convince me otherwise.  Highly suspect both are scum.

Kaylee:  seems over aggressive to contribute as to overcome the hand she was dealt by Dice.

Des:  content to sit back and watch has not really contributed like the town Des

Verbal:  should post more but has really offered definitive commentary

Tina:  another who needs to contribute more but the double voter role IMO is usually town.

[Krakalakachkn]

:(

[Kaylee]

1. Thane, Min Farshaw, Town Cop, killed N2
2.  Lenlo, Mat Cauthon, Vanilla Town, lynched D4
3.  Hallia
4.  Dice Kaylee
5.  Leelou
6.  Verbal
7.  NotBob
8.  Dawn Csarmi, Moiraine Damodred, Town Doctor, killed N3
9.  Despo
10.  Mynd, Rand al'Thor, Vanilla Town, lynched D3
11.  Darthe, Padan Fain, Mafia Goon, lynched D2
12.  TG, Lan Mandragoran, Town Bodyguard, killed N1
13.  Tina
14.  Krak, Perrin Aybara, Vanilla Town, killed N4

 

 

Of those left: (I'll be doing these one at a time because it's easier to ISO that way. Of course with exception to myself and Tina. I feel firm in my stance on her and won't be changing it).

 

Hally:  She went back and forth on the Dawn/Csarmi slot. She said she had Lee as a town read. Looking back through her posts she hadn't given a reads list. The only thing that came close to that point was when she said the Lee train reeked. Later she says to Krak that she sees he also has Tina as a scum lean and asks if he wants to do a CFD. (quoted below)

 

 

Been focused on the other games, I might've stretched myself too thin.  One just ended though, so I can devote more time.

 

Re: Dawn.  - I always think she's scum, it's her way of playing.  It seemed scummy to me again this game.  With Csarmi in the slot I should be able to get a much better read on it, though I'm null on him right now.  While an improvement, it leaves me with one less scum suspect.

 

Krak - I see you too have Tina listed as a scum suspect, CFD?

Two things about that bother me. 1. She didn't give reads so how is anyone supposed to know she has Tina as a scum lean? 2. Why as Krak for a CFD? I wondering if that was for town cred.

 

 

 

Here's the interaction that followed...

Why?  You have a town read on Darthe?

 

 

Initially I had a semi town read on him based on his and Dawn's interaction.  I'll go look back through and see if what he's done has stood out.

 

 

Well then, why Tina?

 

 

 

 Then this reply, an hour after she asked him about the CFD, she changes her mind when questioned by Krak on it. Suddenly she didn't see much to incriminate Tina and she was confusing her play with another game. 

Y'know, upon reread, I didn't really see much to incriminate Tina.  I was confusing her play with another game.  She's more a null to me at the moment.  However, the reread did solidify a few things for me.

 

I have a problem with reading Mynd this game. He acts like his usual self and that is something I associate with town since I haven´t seen him as scum in a long, long time. But... why all of that nonsense about putting a second or third vote on anyone, and why would that be scummy? As Verb, I also wonder why Mynd said that Leelou tried to save Lenlo but didn´t say anything about Darthe having equal amount of votes as Lenlo. I will definitely keep an eye on Mynd this game. 

 

TG´s quick move from Leelou to Dawn was strange. He said that he moved because he was alone on Leelou and that Dawn needed preassure but it only took four posts before he moved it. Later he manage to fos all of those who have been mentioned as scum so far: Leelou, Dawn and Hallia.  

 

It´s funny that Leelou thinks Dawn is obsessed with Darthe when I found her self-centred. It´s strange that Dawn didn´t vote Leelou at first but waited until later, when others had started to accuse her,  to vote her

 

As for Leelou´s list - I agree with a lot of it. Thane´s vote looks bandwagony. NotBob is voting without much reasons. I think Krak looks town as well, even though he still votes me. I don´t agree about TG though. 

 

 

[unvote]

 

[v] TG [/v]

 

 

Mostly because he is going with the crowd a little too much. Fosing all the people in the spotlight. As I said, his quick change of vote was strange. I could also vote Thane. Not sure if Dawn or Leelou is mafia but I would go for Dawn before Leelou. 

Aside from the TG vote, I like a lot of her reads here.

 

Regarding Darthe: 

That's a hard character claim to fight but I don't trust character claims in Womby games and would think less of you all if you did.  TG or Verb, can you show me what is townie about her posts in the last two pages?  The reads list was essentially "Look at all of these other people you could be voting" and she just CFD'd onto Thane for ???.  I don't see the switch and I haven't paid any attention to Thane thus far tbh.  I will note that I think that if Leelou is town Verb is scum for his interactions with her the last two pages.  Those two don't usually have this sort of shifting stance with one another and it's highly relevant to both of their metas.

 

@Mind, STFU Dawny sounds hilarious.  

 

 

 

Terrible is a harsh word but Hally is being polite. Intelligence doesnt ewuate to aptitude and dawn tends to be apathetic which makes her inconsistent and inactive. Do you know how difficult it is to work with a preteen who has no experience and only a cursory understanding of the discussions at hand? Its why I fuss at her. Wasted ability and worse still wasted player slot.

  
I'm 15...that's not a "preteen."

 

My sincerest apologies Slayer of Bananas.  I hope you don't take my consistent ragging as me not liking you btw, I just want so much more from you than you give to these games.  After a few games of it I got tired of being positive in the hopes that you would pick up.

 

Darthe doesn't have very many posts, but he seems sincere in them.  I confirm my town read on him.

 

Looking, I haven't really seen much out of Csarmi, so I'm back to being leery of that slot.

 

Mynd - I completely see your point.  I rescind my desire to lynch Tina.  My reread was pretty quick, we don't have tons of info to go on.

 She confirms her town read on Darthe and more back and forth on her read of Csarmi.

 

 

 

Initially I felt good about Leelou. I agreed with her that Dawn was scummy. Regarding Tina, she knows her better than I, so that's null, but I'm not liking the vote on Darthe. I just don't see the reasoning.

Then she decides she unsure of Lee based on Lee's vote on Darthe based on the bold. 

 

 

 

[v] Darthe [/v]

We shall see who was right

Good catch on the follow thingy Csarmi!

She eventually votes Darthe with a lousy reason. 

 

 

 

Welp, I was word about him, not the first time or the last

All she had to say after the flip.

 

 

 

She does a reread through D1 and finally gives some thoughts. Mostly about how she thinks Lee is town for her push on Darthe and how NotBob is most suspicious due to analyzing Lee's train. 

Up through the end of D1.  Darthe didn't have very much interaction with many people.

 

 

 

Let's go. 

 

[v]Len[/v]

Its gonna be like this huh Berry?

 

[v]Darthe[/v]

 

Lets do this.

 

Is that page 1 OMGUS?  I-I don't know how to feel about this.

 

He had a joke vote exchange with Len, and then the thing with Dawn/Csarmi.  With Darthe flipping scum, Dawn's OMGSUS D1 gives him townie points for me.

 

And then you have the train on Leelou that started up D1.  She was a big pusher D2 for Darthe's train, so I think analyzing her train is good.

 

Vote Count

Darthe(1): Lenlo
Dawn(3): TG, Leelou, Hallia
Tina(1): Krak
Leelou(6): Mynd, NotBob, Dawn, Darthe, Thane, Despo
TG(1): Tina

8 to lynch.  Deadline Saturday at 10 AM EDT (roughly 24 hours from now).

Most suspicious of NotBob

 

 

 

 

@ Hallia,

 

Leelou earned that sudden train...

 

 

 

 

I still don't see how she earned the train.

 

Vote Notbob

 

 

 

 

Had to get a fresh reread, after all that's happened this week mafia was put on the backburner.

 

Based on their interactions, I'm betting Len is one of the scummates to Darthe.

 

 

 

Five if you include endgame. Len is null for me atm. His jokiness has become par for the course.

So are we playing golf and null is good or what?

 

 

Vote Len

Her only other read was a scum lean on Len based on interactions  with Darthe. She didn't give a lot of reads or leans overall and she was back and forth on the few she gave. I'd really like to hear what she stands and see if she ever finishes that reread like she said she was going to do. 

 

 

Summary: She doesn't take a firm stand really. I guess you can count her saying Lee is town...though that wavered with Lee's vote on Darthe, but she went right back to thinking Lee is town. That's her firmest stance. Other than that she voted NotBob for his placement on Lee's train but hasn't really said anything since. Doesn't look like she's finished rereading past D1. Once she catches up I'd love to hear thoughts on players still alive. Leaning scum on her. As town she gives reads and doesn't go back and forth so easily. Most of her back and forth on Csarmi was for weak reasons if I remember correctly. (Basically she changed her mind when challenged on it). 

 

 

 

Kaylee: Nynaeve al'Meara VT

 

Will be doing Lee next...

[Verbal32]

Giggity.  I mean, I'll wait here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

>_>

[Niniel]

I like your posts, Kaylee. I´m waiting to read the rest of them and will give my thoughts then. 

[Hallia]

I'm Elyas Macheras, VT

[Leelou]

Giggity.  I mean, I'll wait here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

>_>

 

No, you can't watch. 

[Verbal32]

Dammit!

[Kaylee]

 Lee: Her interactions with Dawn, the vote and reason, didn't look good. Gave a reads list with reasons for each. She says who she's most suspicious of the bolded on her train. 

My train built really quick since yesterday. I dislike these votes the most: NotBob, Dawn, Darthe, Thane

 

 

 

 

 

 

My train built really quick since yesterday. I dislike these votes the most: NotBob, Dawn, Darthe, Thane

 

Really Leel, this is all you have to say?

 

 

No. I'm Gawyn, vanilla town. NotBob, Darthe and Thane really reek of bandwagoning. Dawn, I just think she really doesn't know how to play. Which is sad. I was trying to actually kick her into gear, but Mynd came in like a white knight to her defense. I actually don't like any of the angles Mynd is taking and could change my vote to any of them.  

 

Bold: Here she says why she most suspicious of them.

 

 

 

 

Actually, everyone who just parked their votes stalled the lynch. Also, Thane claiming cop right at EOD with no one around didn't help matters either. This was one of the most unproductive D1s I've seen in awhile. Mynd is a one trick pony this game. 

 

 

Final Vote Count: 

Final Vote Count


Darthe(1): Lenlo
Dawn(1): Hallia
Leelou(5): Mynd, NotBob, Dawn, Darthe, Krak
TG(1): Tina
Thane(3): TG, Dice, Despo
Dice(1): Thane


8 to lynch.

 

My reads from the day: 

A lot of the votes on me feel very bandwagon-y. 

 

1.  Thane - his posts have added nothing new and not entirely sure for his reason on voting me. Looks like a pure bandwagon vote. Scummy

2.  Lenlo - I don't agree with Des. I don't find anything that feels overly forced from Len and he's sitting at null to slight town. 

3.  Hallia - For the moment, getting a town read from her. She's actively voting and posting in the thread. Something she tends to avoid as scum

4.  Dice - 3 posts, all meh. Nothing with any real content in them. Unless he picks up activity he's going in my Dice is laying low as scum pile. 

5.  Leelou - town

6.  Verbal - yes, I called Des pretty. Problem? I haven't had enough interaction with him yet to have a solid feel for him. Still null

7.  NotBob - I hate ISOing NotBob. Spammy and votes seem bandwagon-y. He's been taking the path of least resistance. Null to slight scum

8.  Dawn - Her first 3 posts had to do with Darthe, her "defense" post was an OMGUS vote. Nothing says town. She has an easy meta to hide behind. I'd like to actually see her break out of it to get a real feel from her. 

9.  Despo - I don't like peaches, so if I ever had any then yes you can have them all. Des is Des. His last game he was really off, everyone in his scum list is someone I'd pretty much expect to find there early. Null so far. 

10.  Mynd - Seems to be trying to scum hunt, feels a bit forced since he appears to be going on outdated meta. Play styles have definitely changed over the years and he should have started to realize this from the few games he's been back in. Not sure how I feel about it just yet. 

11.  Darthe - Can you give an example of what exactly I'm tying together? 

12.  TG - annoyingly distracting with the upside down text, seems to be scum hunting atm, even though I don't agree with him

13.  Tina - Asking questions, but not really questions to try to figure the game out. Tina normally asks the tougher questions, seems like she is almost trying to force her meta. She has claimed to be busy, so that could be it. Like I said she's someone I'm concerned about though

14.  Krak - I actually like it when he's more active. He seems comfortable and nothing forced. Townie vibes

 

Few changes:

 

Thane claimed cop at EOD

Dice is kinda going with the flow and not adding much or going after anyone hardcore. Still watching him, but he's inching up my scum pile. 

Verb is starting to feel a bit more townie. I'd still like for him to interact with me more. 

I liked NotBob and Des's posts a bit more as the day went on. 

I know Len has issues getting serious, but nothing is really sticking out from his posts. Still a solid null and I'm not liking that. 

Dawn needs to come out and play. 

I feel a big part of the reason day stalled was Mynd. 

 

Top 3: 

 

Darthe, Mynd and Tina.

 

Dice and Len - 2nd tier

She makes an adjusted reads list N1 with her top 3 as Darthe, Mynd and Tina and Dice/me and Len as secondary. This is where is started feeling better about her. Basically as of N1 she shows interest in going after Darthe. 

 

 

She starts off voting Tina D2, but that doesn't say much as she was in Lee's top 3. She switches to Darthe when Tina's train doesn't seem to take off. (Switching between her top scum reads). She defends the fact that she finds Darthe scummy. She quotes his posts and makes comments as to why they stand out to her. D3 she goes after Mynd who, in my opinion, was acting scummy. 

 

 

D4: She then goes into looking for interactions with Darthe to find possible scummates. She came up with Len here. (It's what made me also look at Len).

 

 

 

 She does another updated colored coded reads list. The trains at this point are myself and Len. 

Here's where I stand right now with everyone. 

 

 

Krak 

Verbal

 

Des 

NotBob

Tina

Hallia

Dice Kaylee

Lenlo

 

 

 

She votes Len for her earlier discovery and says his reveal doesn't change her mind. 

 

 

Her most recent reads has the bold as her scum reads. 

>.> Can I blame meds? 

 

Going through the thread now to read a couple posts. Right now my scum pile has Hallia and/or Kaylee/Tina. DV does nothing to clear her as town for me right now. Her early posts were real bad. I'm not liking this new angle Des is pushing on Krak. I've had Krak as solid town all game. 

She's given reasons on why she suspects myself and Tina. I don't remember why Hally though. 

 

Lee: What are your reasons for suspecting Hally? I see she was in your orange list above, but I don't recall reading a reason as to why.

 

 

 

 

In any case, if Krak is town, that leaves Kaylee, Hallia, and NotBob. Who do y'all think could be the townie in that group, assuming Krak is town?

 

BoOb

 

Included this one for reference. 

 

Summary: Yes I don't have much commentary above because I was waiting to put it here. Rough start and I was very unsure of her, leaning scum. After that point, basically since she switched to looking at Darthe, I changed my mind on her. She started going after him early. She was suspicious of him early, N1. From that point she doesn't waver on her scum read on him. Her play since then, going after Mynd and Len, continues my town read on her. (Yes they turned out to be town but their play wasn't townie and she picked up on that and stuck with her reads). Town read. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Giggity.  I mean, I'll wait here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

>_>

It was good for me. Totally didn't cross my mind how it sounded. 

 

 

I'm Elyas Macheras, VT

Ok, any thoughts on the game so far?

[Kaylee]

I still have Verb, NotBob and Despo but I have to take care of some RL things. I will finish this later today.

 

 

 

Tina: DV proven by mod. Claimed Elayne. I believe this claim as it was proved and would be too powerful in the hands of the mafia.