[Standard] - Hitchhiker's Game to the Galaxy - Game Over

[Leelou]

 

 

dice is probably the watcher 

 

let's not lynch him

 

If it wasn't for his claim, would you think he was town from his play? Since character claims are allowed, there are probably safe fake claims. 

 

 

He's pretty firmly in my null pile but I don't have enough to have a firm read on him, but he's a claimed PR that gets night results so don't know how long he can do that dance if he's Mafia, and his character claim makes sense irt his role

 

Mass Effect Mafia guys: Did csarmi give you guys fakeclaims?

 

 

Watcher can be any alignment. 

[Andrej]

I don't buy Pral's "I'm not active day 1" spiel. Pral is not new on the block here. Want to hear more from him but satisfied he at least gave some reads. 

 

Leelou congrats on the job. Hopefully less bitter game now

 

What do you think of his reads? Agree, disagree?

 

Unvote based on claim alone.

 

I still think dice is iffy, though, and FOS AJ for soft defending him and trying to discredit a legit point.

 

 

Nyn

 

Pretty sure I said firmly that Dice's opinion of Leelou (although I don't necessarily agree) is in line with how I perceive his town meta.

 

I also don't agree that the activity list is a very legit point. You said yourself that it is moot.

 

Who do you want to lynch instead now?

 

Watcher can be any alignment.

 

Legit point.

[Nynaeve]

Pretty sure I said firmly that Dice's opinion of Leelou (although I don't necessarily agree) is in line with how I perceive his town meta.

 

I also don't agree that the activity list is a very legit point. You said yourself that it is moot.

 

Who do you want to lynch instead now?

 

 

LOL!  I didn't say that me catching dice on a false statement is moot. I said that him trying to use the excuse he did was moot cause it's NOT true. He ascertains something and then when he gets called out on it he backpedals and claims he doesn't know how it works. PFFT is all I have to say.

 

I will ISO a couple of people tomorrow when I wake up and then I'll answer that question. Tis 2 am and all... not the time.

 

 

Nyn

[nervositee]

Ugh, probably won't be able to finnish my re-read today. Can also say already now I'll be pretty much AWOL saturday and sunday, just FYI. Will devote some time tomorrow to properly catch up and take a stand

[Andrej]

I think he was pretty obviously saying that using that tactic isn't alignment indicative. I agree with him there.

 

Whether or not he knew how to do it is irrelevant.

[dicetosser1]

nyn I DID say it was a gripe regarding mafia games in general, not a defence.

[Nynaeve]

I think he was pretty obviously saying that using that tactic isn't alignment indicative. I agree with him there.

 

Whether or not he knew how to do it is irrelevant.

 

You're really starting to tire me. Have you even read his post?

 

"Looking to see if someone is on DM tells you nothing. I have the page open while at work, but that doesn't mean i get to read it. I often leave my computer, and whatever is open at the time, on overnight while im sleeping. But im not actually here."

 

He was clearly saying that being seen online doesn't mean a thing cause he leaves DM open while at work and overnight so while he might be seen 'Online' he really is not. This is FALSE. No matter how you spin it. If he is spotted viewing the thread it means that he is indeed VIEWING it or has in the last 15 minutes. End of story. It's called lurking. Look it up.

 

 

@ dice Looks like a defense to me.

 

 

 

Going to bed now. Goodnight.

 

 

 

 

Nyn

[Andrej]

 

I think he was pretty obviously saying that using that tactic isn't alignment indicative. I agree with him there.

 

Whether or not he knew how to do it is irrelevant.

 

You're really starting to tire me. Have you even read his post?

 

"Looking to see if someone is on DM tells you nothing. I have the page open while at work, but that doesn't mean i get to read it. I often leave my computer, and whatever is open at the time, on overnight while im sleeping. But im not actually here."

 

He was clearly saying that being seen online doesn't mean a thing cause he leaves DM open while at work and overnight so while he might be seen 'Online' he really is not. This is FALSE. No matter how you spin it. If he is spotted viewing the thread it means that he is indeed VIEWING it or has in the last 15 minutes. End of story. It's called lurking. Look it up.

 

@ dice Looks like a defense to me.

 

Going to bed now. Goodnight.

 

Nyn

 

lol - obviously I read his post if I'm commenting on it. I think YOU failed to read the post correctly in the first place and now you are changing the narrative behind it to fit your portrayal. The push here is a bad one because your initial attack of his post is over something he wasn't even talking about.

 

Dice says him showing online doesn't tell you anything. I took this as a general statement.

 

You say this is false because showing online will tell you what thread they were viewing/when. This is very specific.

 

THESE ARE DIFFERENT.

[Andrej]

Also, on a general note, I can't talk intelligently about the specifics of how the active user list functions so I think that's a pretty pointless argument and a cheap tactic to employ.

 

It could be something as simple as having DM open anywhere on the desktop (minimized, in a different tab, in a different window) while you work on something else will make you display as active. I would think the 15 minutes wouldn't come into effect after the desktop had been dormant for that amount of time - IE: in screensaver mode. This would fit with what Dice is saying in regards to him leaving it open at work while he does other stuff.

 

@Nyn - if you think that Dice is lying about viewing the thread with your implication that he is lurking, why would you choose to believe his claim and unvote?

 

Your FOS is likewise returned.

[Andrej]

Anyway - I gotta run.

 

It's my son's grandma's birthday today so we are gonna head over for dinner soon.

 

I will likely be drinking a lot to celebrate the end of my first semester of college

[Clovdyx]

I don't think the "Who's Online" list tells you literally nothing, but I actually don't have a problem with Dice suggesting it doesn't mean anything.  It's not uncommon for me to leave it open while I do other things on the computer so I see where he's coming from.

 

That said, you're going to need to do better than just a claim if you want to convince me, Dice.  I obviously disagree with your case on Leelou, and I don't like how it's more or less predicated on you ignoring/overlooking/not remembering others doing the EXACT same thing.  If Leelou's suggestion implies that she had extra knowledge, what are your current thoughts on Andre and Verbal?  Based on Mish's early posts, do you think Leelou was wrong to identify the possibility of a restriction? 

 

Beyond that, who would you be interested exploring as the lynch candidate today?  Barring a new case, I don't see Leelou being the lynch today - and I sure as hell don't think she ought to be.  If you're town, show us what else you have.

[Cory Caboose]

Nyn, AJ

 

Both of you are villagers

 

cut it out

[Cory Caboose]

I got to page 10 and realized I had stopped taking notes

I'm basically a loser

[Cory Caboose]

As a side project I reread the first ~10 pages of Mass Effect and the first 10 pages of Once Upon A Time to make sure I wasn't seeing things irt to Thane

 

I wasn't

Thane is a villager

 

I am like 99.9999999% sure of this

[dicetosser1]

 Ajs posts this game say he is town to me. Verbal i have a town lean on. Im pretty certain with AJ  not so much with verb. Thats mostly cause i can read AJ decently well but not verb.  I also have Cory as town and   as always the jury is out on Des just cause i have learnt not to trust him unless im the cop and have viewed him.

[Leelou]

^^doesn't actually answer all the questions asked. 

[dicetosser1]

^^  is working and answering as i can.

 

 

depends clov   as i said leelou is the one that sticks out to me.  Id probably suggest Halia or if i wanted to do a Nolder then Pral.  But i dont really have any good reasons for either.

[Hallia]

Why would you suggest me if you have no good reasons? That in itself seems scummy was well as what Nyn pointed out.  

[dicetosser1]

as i said earlier I saw mish's posts as being excited about the theme. I never thought post restriction.  In fact i find all the talk about post restrictions weird cause imo post restrictions are rare on DM so i dont get why suddenly everyones going on about post restrictions in this game.

[Cory Caboose]

Is the trick to making you post saying your name?

 

HALLLLLLLLLLIAAAAAAAAAAA

[dicetosser1]

oh gee!  look at that!  mention the devil and up she pops!

[Leelou]

Hallia - reads please.

[Leelou]

I'm going to bed with the reminder: I won't be around tomorrow.

[Cory Caboose]

oh gee!  look at that!  mention the devil and up she pops!

 

[Clovdyx]

 Ajs posts this game say he is town to me. Verbal i have a town lean on. Im pretty certain with AJ  not so much with verb. Thats mostly cause i can read AJ decently well but not verb.  I also have Cory as town and   as always the jury is out on Des just cause i have learnt not to trust him unless im the cop and have viewed him.

 

^^  is working and answering as i can.

 

 

depends clov   as i said leelou is the one that sticks out to me.  Id probably suggest Halia or if i wanted to do a Nolder then Pral.  But i dont really have any good reasons for either.

 

Leelou is the one that sticks out as scum, you're pretty certain AJ is town, and you're not so certain Verbal is town.  I can see both of those, and it's about where I am at this point, but I don't get why you feel so much better about them when they actually pointed out potential post restrictions BEFORE Leelou did...and she's your strongest scum read, mainly FOR that reason.  How do you go from one extreme (AJ) to the other (Leelou) when he's "guilty" of the same offense? 

 

as i said earlier I saw mish's posts as being excited about the theme. I never thought post restriction.  In fact i find all the talk about post restrictions weird cause imo post restrictions are rare on DM so i dont get why suddenly everyones going on about post restrictions in this game.

 

I have two issues with this post:

 

1: The bold - That doesn't really answer what I asked.  Look back at it now.  Now that you know what it was based off of, do you think Leelou's observation is wrong, or was she just objectively wrong and there's no way she could have reasonably come to the conclusion she did without prior knowledge? 

 

2: The red - I don't know.  Ask your town reads.