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[ReleaseTheEvil]

While Lazy's posting has been weak, I'm a bit worried about how quickly everyone is getting board his lynch. I imagine we'll find a scum or two on it. At the same time we can't let the vote go random. Really want 

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to hear more from Lazy first, as what we have heard hasn't amounted to much, hence why he's on the block. 

 

Should be around at deadline to consolidate. The way I see it right now Cory is a good candidate based on 

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what he has posted and Lazy is for what he hasn't posted.

 

All the same I would like to hear more from both before deadline but seems unlikely to happen. don't like what Cory's posted and don't think we've heard enough Lazy.

[Nynaeve]

to hear more from Lazy first, as what we have heard hasn't amounted to much, hence why he's on the block. 

 

Precisely. He has been asked about his reads. His read list (while funny as hell) hasn't amounted to much. Leelou caught him on a slip and once it's been clarified to him what that slip was..... he stopped posting.

 

 

 

 

Nyn

[Pralaya]

@nyn

 

Yeah, I was doing it on D1 with Amega. I had Cory and Len as scum D1 using the same. After D1, I had more information which just reinforced my reads.

 

Cory even called it out specifically on D1 just like you are doing it now :)

[Nynaeve]

@nyn

 

Yeah, I was doing it on D1 with Amega. I had Cory and Len as scum D1 using the same. After D1, I had more information which just reinforced my reads.

 

Cory even called it out specifically on D1 just like you are doing it now :)

 

I've only started seeing you really pull your weight in Genius mafia after Tommy and I were out, aka as of D2 and onwards. I don't remember what Cory called you out on, but I'm neither Cory nor do I play like he does. Trying to imply that I'm scum because I'm acting like Cory did when he was scum is amusing at best.

 

I feel like whenever dice opens his mouth he makes himself look even worse. And the fact that you're using the votes on him as a main reason for fosing people bothers me. I want to see more than just that. Because your house of cards is looking very shaky right now.

 

 

 

Nyn

[BFG]

Since most people seem to be missing the point of what I'm trying to say about Pral, or are misunderstanding it because of their preconceptions about my alignment. I'm gonna spell it out for you.

 

 

 

It's not that he missed Des's explanation of his vote on Clov, like I said lots of people either missed it or felt it unimportant. But I have questioned it several times. If anyone's read my posts they'd have to catch it. Pral has allegedly read my posts, since he's based his read on me of them being 'off' but has somehow missed me mentioning it several times, which means he's not reading my posts. Since his read is based off a meta read on my posts...

 

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/89426-standard-hitchhikers-game-to-the-galaxy-day-one/?p=3254043

 

This entire post is about Des's vote on Clov.

 

 

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/89426-standard-hitchhikers-game-to-the-galaxy-day-one/?p=3254370

 

This is Des's response which includes my initial post.

 

 

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/89426-standard-hitchhikers-game-to-the-galaxy-day-one/?p=3254685

 

This is me questioning Des again (again it's the entire post)

 

 

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/89426-standard-hitchhikers-game-to-the-galaxy-day-one/?p=3255317

 

This is Pral's read list where he mentions my meta.

 

 

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/89426-standard-hitchhikers-game-to-the-galaxy-day-one/?p=3256003

 

This is where I spell out what I've been trying to say about the Clov vote.

 

 

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/89426-standard-hitchhikers-game-to-the-galaxy-day-one/?p=3256028

 

This is where I question Pral about his read on Des, and his vote on Clov.

 

 

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/89426-standard-hitchhikers-game-to-the-galaxy-day-one/?p=3256254

 

This is where Pral asks why I think Des's vote wasn't a joke.

 

At this stage my reasons are in thread in 2 of my posts and 1 of Des's from before Pral's reads and are in thread about 4 times (since I copied the entire discussion in the spelling out post) after his reads post as well. So when he asks me why I think it wasn't a joke I have explained in thread 3 separate times. My reasons are the entire basis of 3 of my posts. Literally the only way Pral could miss this is if he isn't reading my posts. In which case he's pulled his read of me out of the air.

 

This is what's scummy.

 

The fact that he's come back into thread and not addressed my point and instead has just tried to dismiss it looks even worse.

[Hallia]

(Ok, Real Talk: I had about the worst day/night you can imagine due to a co-workers incompetance forcing me to work at 12 hour caregiving shift combined with nanny work.  I feel better today, but I wasn't going to tackle this because with all the high tension in thread)

 

 

Pral: You said my vote on Mish was sheeping? How's that possible when there were only two of us on her?  I don't think that word means what you think it means.

 

Dice:  I buy the claim for now, especially with how fast his train was going up at the time.

 

So between the two left we have a train of Cory/Lazy.  I don't recall much of Lazy's posting, but from reading back, Cory seems to have reigned in the anger some, and is looking more townish.  So for now.

 

Vote: Lazy

 

Also, apparently I'm a thing as well.  I'm Vanilla Town, so that'd kind of be a waste.

[Leelou]

UNOFFICIAL Vote count 

Verbal: 1 - Lazy
Cory: 4 - Clov, Des, Tina, Dice
Despo: 1 - Cory
Hallia: 1 - AJ
Lazy: 4 - Nyn, Leelou, Thane, Hallia
RTE: 1 - Pral
Pralaya: 1 - BFG

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch

Not voting: Verbal, Vos, RTE
 
Deadline Saturday 7 pm GMT - Day 1 deadline

[ReleaseTheEvil]

At some point I think we need to stop ignoring BFG's case on Pral. I have them both as scum reads but she's making solid points and evidently I must be wrong about one of them because it wouldn't make sense otherwise. 

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Personally I would like to see a Pral flip but not sure that's going to happen today. I would vote for him but it wouldn't be helping us at all in the present situation. Still hoping either Lazy or Cory makes an 

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appearance before deadline. We have one character claim between the two of them and I know almost nothing about the lore behind this game.

 

Do we have enough online to secure a lynch today? Who's around? What others think of BFG's case?

[Hallia]

I'd be down with a pral flip

[Nynaeve]

At some point I think we need to stop ignoring BFG's case on Pral. I have them both as scum reads but she's making solid points and evidently I must be wrong about one of them because it wouldn't make sense otherwise. 

 

I haven't been ignoring BFG at all. She's been making some good points, I've said so before.

 

 

 

Nyn

[Nynaeve]

I'd be down with a pral flip

 

I said earlier, it's between Lazy and Pral for me. Pral replies to me so far are eh.

 

 

 

Nyn

[Hallia]

CFD all aboaarrrrrrrd?

[ReleaseTheEvil]

Well, money meet mouth. Let's see what we see.

 

[v] Pral [/v] 

 

I'll be around at deadline in case but I prefer a Pral lynch to either Cory or Lazy at this point. 

 

Quote: “Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so.”  Douglas Adams

[BFG]

I'm still reading through Cory's posts, so I still don't know who I'd prefer to switch to if necessary.

 

Obviously at the moment I like the case on Pral best.

[Clovdyx]

Cory, Hallia, Dice would be my top three lynch preferences for the day. 

 

 

(Ok, Real Talk: I had about the worst day/night you can imagine due to a co-workers incompetance forcing me to work at 12 hour caregiving shift combined with nanny work.  I feel better today, but I wasn't going to tackle this because with all the high tension in thread)

 

 

Pral: You said my vote on Mish was sheeping? How's that possible when there were only two of us on her?  I don't think that word means what you think it means.

 

Dice:  I buy the claim for now, especially with how fast his train was going up at the time.

 

So between the two left we have a train of Cory/Lazy.  I don't recall much of Lazy's posting, but from reading back, Cory seems to have reigned in the anger some, and is looking more townish.  So for now.

 

Vote: Lazy

 

Also, apparently I'm a thing as well.  I'm Vanilla Town, so that'd kind of be a waste.

 

I hate pretty much everything about this post.  In regards to Pral, I think there's a terrible way to justify what appeared to be a very questionable vote.  Essentially any early vote is perfectly fine?  No, you look at the reasoning given for the original vote and then you look at the reasoning for the following votes.  The comment wasn't towards me, Hallia, but it looked like you were happy to follow somebody else's lead on Mish and just didn't want to say "Okay, I'll go with this!"

 

In regards to Dice, I still like my original case, I don't like that he kind of skirted around giving me the answers I asked for originally, and Nyn is spot on about his vote justification.  "I don't think we're going to get to 8 today".  Oh, okay.  So when you said you're thinking Cory, you weren't REALLY thinking Cory.  With everything in the thread, I'm not surprised his lynch moved the way it did.  I'll concede his Cory voting was recent, so that shouldn't be considered when examining the train, but it's not like he's played an exceptionally Pro-town game since.

 

Biggest knock is the train decision.  Cory pulled back anger and looked more townish.  Being calm is not inherently townie behavior, and anger is not inherently scummy.  If Lazy's posting failed to leave an impression so much that his play isn't memorable, I'm guessing he hasn't been too scummy.

 

Bold - I...I don't even know what to say to that.

[Nynaeve]

@Clov  Doesn't it seem odd to you that most of Pral's content in regards to his null to scum lean reads are based on dice being a townie?

 

 

 

Nyn

[BFG]

 

At some point I think we need to stop ignoring BFG's case on Pral. I have them both as scum reads but she's making solid points and evidently I must be wrong about one of them because it wouldn't make sense otherwise.

 

I haven't been ignoring BFG at all. She's been making some good points, I've said so before.

 

 

 

Nyn

 

[BFG]

CFD all aboaarrrrrrrd?

Why are you hedging and who do you want a CFD on?

[Hallia]

Unvote

 

Vote Pral

 

 

I hedge nothing! MUAHAHAA!

[Clovdyx]

@Clov  Doesn't it seem odd to you that most of Pral's content in regards to his null to scum lean reads are based on dice being a townie?

 

 

 

Nyn

 

Honestly, I don't get that impression too much.  He didn't reference Dice at all on his reads of BFG or Hallia.  The basis for his remaining three suspects (you, RTE, and Leelou) doesn't really read to me as being his stance on Dice, but the lack of conviction regarding your stances (your being all three, not specifically YOU).

 

 

His fencesitting on Dice didn't sit well with me. His vote on Dice   came quite opportunistically and he starts fencesitting on him saying that he has difficulty in reading Dice . His play seems to be very safe so far.

 

 

She has been in both Mish and Dice wagons and the votes have not looked convincing.

 

 

Overall, I feel that she is talking from the sidelines in most issues and her only strong stance was on Dice which she is currently fence-sitting.

 

What I find odd is how he's using essentially the same justification for ALL of his scumreads.  I appreciate the consistency, but he's clearing basically the entire game on whether or not they've really committed to something.  I would expect at least experienced mafia members to nut up on a few reads, and I disagree with him in regards to at least you and Leelou.  You've been anything but a bystander this game, and I thought Leelou was pretty strong in regards to Mish and Dice.

[csarmi]

Vote count 1.xx Mobile

 

Verbal: 1 - Lazy

Cory: 4 - Clov, Des, Tina, Dice

Despo: 1 - Cory

Hallia: 1 - AJ

Lazy: 3 - Nyn, Leelou, Thane

RTE: 1 - Pral

Pralaya: 3 - BFG, RTE, Hally

 

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch

 

Not voting: Verbal, Vos

Deadline Saturday 7 pm GMT - Day 1 deadline