[Advanced] Red Wedding Mafia - Post Game, MakersMark

[amegakure]

amega you are not worth the time ATM

this.

[amegakure]

and no dont leave you are good player . Just put yourself at the other end of your witty jokes before they are said. 

[Cory Caboose]

 

amega you are not worth the time ATM

this.

 

 

If you would like a less brief version, read that as "I have too much other stuff to go through in the thread before I can adequately respond to you and I don't know if doing so will be anything but a distraction to me from more important goals".

 

Get me?

[Cory Caboose]

and no dont leave you are good player . Just put yourself at the other end of your witty jokes before they are said. 

 

????

 

I apologize if you actually smell foul

 

Take a shower

 

 

 

 

(i'm not srs, plz don't read as if i'm srs)

[hazelkrs1]

How many more times do I have to read that Zen's vote looks weird?

 

 

... wh... why would you say this Cloud?

 

You have a problem with people pointing out something that looks odd?

 

 

 

Do you guys seriously want to speedlynch Mynd?

 

Yes

 

Do you seriously want to lynch Mish? Do you think there is any remote chance she is Mafia in this situation?

 

 

I'm voting for Red, but I could also go for Mynd.

 

 

And this was ewwwww as well. There had been a lot of talk about CFD'ing on Mynd, and yet you just say you "could also go" for him. Gross.

 

 

Gotham needs a vig

 

Please let it be Des so he can lulz shoot Darthe. 

 

 

NO ONE can lulz shoot Darthe like I can

 

 

 

 

Go into Devices, right click and open Device Manager, find the adapter that's been troubling you, go into properties and uninstall. On the Device Manager page scan for hardware changes and the adapter should reinstall.

 

Could simply been corrupted, data loss during a driver update, package loss, etc etc etc

 

 

Cute AND smart

 

#Totalpackage

 

 

Mistress - Roslin Frey, Town Vanilla has been lynched.

Oh wow. Such surprise. Cant believe.

 

Who woulda thought that when a crap ton of people switch off of a prime scum suspect with just afew hours of time remaining before deadline a town would get lynched. Srs like the last 20 pages ((What did I tell you all about adding so many pages while im asleep or indisposed btw?)) are a horrible, ugly pile of crap. I know think Desbat is scum, sorry Womby, and not liking Nol either.

 

I still cant believe that anyone thought this would go any dif. Last minute train switchs almost never work in towns favor. Now not only do we have a lynched towny, which we might have had anyway but im doubting it, we also have alot less info than we could have because Mish/Tress havnt interacted near as much with everyone as Red has. Just pitiful.

 

Lenlo this captain hindsight scolding rant was awful. Looks forced, and isn't even right. There's really no reasoning or logic at all to support that last minute switches are any more likely to hit town than scum. I've seen CFD's successfully hit scum numerous times.

 

Plus, Red is still >rand to be town imo, AND has claimed a vettable role. Lynching her would have been dumdum.

 

Either way again, the tone here sounds completely fake and over the top. Expect a higher number for your scummeter next time Wombat and I compile results.

 

Bob's Burgers underrated show

 

H Jon GOATjamin

 

I loved the season premiere that started off with Archer in Bob's Burgers. Was so freaking funny lol.

 

 

 

not impressed, at all

 

I AM NOT TRYING TO IMPRESS YOU.

 

I AM TRYING TO HELP MY ALIGNMENT.

 

 

Honey, just don't. It won't work. 

 

 

 

 

 

Megaloud needs to stop fighting with itself.  one head thinks i'm town the other is sure i'm scum.   are we sure that we dont have a Hydra living in both worlds?  where one head is scum and the other is town?? 

 

How would this even logically work? We were told there are 5 scum. How then can there be one head scum and one town when they count as one role? Please explain that to me. I could see if this was some sort of experimental game, but Darthe told us it's not. 

 

 

Honey, just don't. It won't work. 

 

 

 

Nolbat - 5.2027244573 - SCUM

Mynd - 5.2027244573 - SCUM

Krak - 4.5402098357 - SCUM

Dawn - 4.5402098357 - SCUM

Verbalina - 3.7874282333 - SCUM LEAN

Dice - 3.6426625406 - SCUM LEAN

Lenlo - 3.5013044129 - SCUM LEAN

Halleeloujah - 3.5013044129 - SCUM LEAN

Zanube - 2.9801479189 - MIXED

Jack - 2.8387897912 - MIXED

MegaLoud - 2.3176332973 - TOWN LEAN

Nyankat - 2.3176332973 - TOWN LEAN

Red - 1.3332265865 - TOWN

Tommy - 1.3332265865 - TOWN

X - 1.0471027661 - TOWN

Crayjay - 0.9568357854 - TOWN

Yates - 0.9568357854 - TOWN

 

 

Desbat - LOCK CLEAR, GOAT

 

 

sorry been focusing on another  game and have been spending long weekend time with my daughter.  Yes i have been slack.

 

am on page 52 as i catchup

 

so far

 

leaning Town on 

 

Red   theres her claim her lynch built quickly and i think she was a victim of disagreeing with the Alliance.

 

Mynd   seems to be scumhunting. Has asked legitimate questions.  Am wondering why Des wont answer a question about his reads on the hydra. how is that any different then asking for reads on a player in general? 

 

 

leaning mafia on

 

AJ/Cory.  AJ is the main reason for this. I am finding him scummy. Am willing to watch and revise opinion if needed.

 

lenlo    this is a very light lean   there is something there thats bugging me but i cant put my finger on it. like theres something i cant quite see out the corner of my eye.

 

Believe are Mafia

 

Nol.  I have had him as mafia since his comment about preferring to lynch red then let scum walk after her claim. Struck me hard and strong that he was mafia. Has done no real game play since. Will vote come morning

 

 

 

RE The Alliance. 

 

ie Cory/tommy/des with new addition AJ

 

The alliance is in full swing this game. Cory has explained before that they kinda auto clear each other D1 then start watching for tell. (thats how i interpreted his explanation). That VERY much seems to be what has happened here. Mynd and Red have disagreed with them and they have closed ranks and ganged up on them. This annoys me. I dont like having an alliance within the game. I have seen Des get blinded by his bromance before. 

 

 

that'll do for this post

 

 

oh and im gonna need to go back and look at Amega.  he did something i really didnt like but have forgotten what it was

 

Dice can you do me a favor and be more ambiguous with your fos's next time

 

thx

 

Ctrl + F

 

Hydras

 

Ban Poster

 

 

im pretty sure you were just a topic of discussion. I never ADDRESSED YOU. YOU were never INVITED for your INPUT. MYND was the recipient of that post. He is the one who asked.

 

Take your pretentious attitude else where :) have a good day.

 

argle bargle scumclaim

 

good post Amega.

 

 

^Megaloud rising up the scumdar just like Lenlofinger

[Lenlo]

There's so many DM traitors over on JN! Forsooth!!

 

 

 

 

Mistress - Roslin Frey, Town Vanilla has been lynched.

Oh wow. Such surprise. Cant believe.

 

Who woulda thought that when a crap ton of people switch off of a prime scum suspect with just afew hours of time remaining before deadline a town would get lynched. Srs like the last 20 pages ((What did I tell you all about adding so many pages while im asleep or indisposed btw?)) are a horrible, ugly pile of crap. I know think Desbat is scum, sorry Womby, and not liking Nol either.

 

I still cant believe that anyone thought this would go any dif. Last minute train switchs almost never work in towns favor. Now not only do we have a lynched towny, which we might have had anyway but im doubting it, we also have alot less info than we could have because Mish/Tress havnt interacted near as much with everyone as Red has. Just pitiful.

 

Lenlo this captain hindsight scolding rant was awful. Looks forced, and isn't even right. There's really no reasoning or logic at all to support that last minute switches are any more likely to hit town than scum. I've seen CFD's successfully hit scum numerous times.

 

Plus, Red is still >rand to be town imo, AND has claimed a vettable role. Lynching her would have been dumdum.

 

Either way again, the tone here sounds completely fake and over the top. Expect a higher number for your scummeter next time Wombat and I compile results.

 

CFDs are dif from last minute switchs. CFDs are speed lynchs that can happen at any time of the day while switchs happen at the end. In my experience last minute switchs almost always hit town cause they are usually scum lead. So CFDs =/= Last Minute Switches.

 

I disagree with your read on her and no, its not vettable, atleast not until super late game at which point it will possibly be to late. Better to nip it in the bud now than risk it later. 

 

Finally tone. Tone? Seriously? Its a text post, so tone is much more difficult to get an accurate read of. You can call it fake to try and discredit it all you want but it only makes me think less and less of you.

[Lenlo]

There's so many DM traitors over on JN! Forsooth!!

Forgot to reply to this.

 

Ikr? To many people drinking from both cups. :P

[Cory Caboose]

 

 

Hahaha I see this becoming a thing XD

 

 

At this point I want to lynch Red for incomprehensible gibberish mindmelting posts that go nowhere just as much as I want to lynch her because she's scum. If not more. Let's put some spite into this lynch.

 

This should become a thing as well...

 

 

Des lmk how you feel about the ellipses here

 

XD

 

#toptierscumhunt

[hazelkrs1]

Oh that ellipse is diiiirrrrrttttty

 

Scummy nudge too imo.

[Cory Caboose]

[Xthrax]

 

Are people going to start telling me to leave the forum?

 

Just when I thought I was making any sort of headway.

Cool.

He's talking about JetNations mafia forum.

 

 

Oh so JN mafia is Jetnations site. I always wondered what was meant bu JN. Is it a good site to play on?

[hazelkrs1]

 

Lenlo this captain hindsight scolding rant was awful. Looks forced, and isn't even right. There's really no reasoning or logic at all to support that last minute switches are any more likely to hit town than scum. I've seen CFD's successfully hit scum numerous times.

 

Plus, Red is still >rand to be town imo, AND has claimed a vettable role. Lynching her would have been dumdum.

 

Either way again, the tone here sounds completely fake and over the top. Expect a higher number for your scummeter next time Wombat and I compile results.

 

CFDs are dif from last minute switchs. CFDs are speed lynchs that can happen at any time of the day while switchs happen at the end. In my experience last minute switchs almost always hit town cause they are usually scum lead. So CFDs =/= Last Minute Switches.

 

I disagree with your read on her and no, its not vettable, atleast not until super late game at which point it will possibly be to late. Better to nip it in the bud now than risk it later. 

 

Finally tone. Tone? Seriously? Its a text post, so tone is much more difficult to get an accurate read of. You can call it fake to try and discredit it all you want but it only makes me think less and less of you.

 

 

Meh first part is semantics. CFD's aren't always last minute switches but last minute switches are always CFD's pretty much. And again, you provide no reasoning for why a last minute switch will hit a townie, other than they are usually scumled. However, imo scum don't want to wait till the last second to save someone, they'll be working throughout the phase too. CFD's imo are usually led by townies who are actively engaged during EOD and want to pick the best lynch target.

 

Her role can be vetted WAAAAAAY before late or endgame bub. Technically Red could get lucky as hell and vet her role tonight.

 

You trying to scrape to the idea that Red will still be lynched soon reeks imo.

 

Lastly, of course you can read tone in posts. I'm not talking about your speaking tone however, I'm talking about the tone you're using in getting your thoughts across. For instance, someone who uses a lot of words to express something that could be said much simpler, could be monologuing. Someone who puts forth an idea but doesn't support it strongly could be said to be nudging something forward, in a scummy manner. Tone has become a big scumhunting tool for me.

 

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Leelou, when did you change your mind on Mish's opening? Just curious

 

In addition, I also found this interesting- look at some of the reads from the second post you linked:

 

1. Mistress (Mish/Tress) - If it was just Mish, I'd say straight up flustered. With Tress if feels like damage control and not fully liking how in her quick recap that she tied a few people to how Desbat flips. I feel like they've reigned in a bit and are trying to tighten up their game. Mish - how do you feel about X now? Townish with a hint of scum

2. Desbat (Wombat/Des) - I've liked Wombat's play so far. I'd like to see some more from Des though. Most memorable posts are him talking about dreams. 

3. Nolbat - He seems to be trying, I wouldn't say he's giving his all yet, but I wouldn't call him scum either. Lazyish townie. 

4. Krak - Where you at? 3 posts? Not cool, man. Not cool. 

5. MegaLoud (Amega/Cloud) - Undecided. Cloud is #scumday1nomatterwhat and Amega isn't the strongest of players. So far Cloud hasn't done anything uber scummy to get a vote from me. null 

6. Crayjay (Cory/Andrej) - posting has been strong from both Cory and AJ, leaning town on them 

7. Lenlo - Mostly spammy, null. I'd like to see some comments on the events in the game. I know you can do it. 

8. X - I didn't see his op the way Mish did. I think he responded alright to Mish and Tress. I'd like to see some commentary from him on Red

9. Dawn - seems a bit jumpy, not sure if it's her newness still or if she doesn't want the attention on her. Null to slight scum 

10. Jack - just got to the party. Welcome

11. Princess Verbalina of Kindelbury (Verb/Tina) - Verbal seems on par for his level of posting. Tina could be a bit more inquisitive, but so far she hasn't set off my scum radar yet. Null

13. Dice - Barely active, but has been commenting on game play. Slight town lean, will change to a scum lean if he's not more active though

14. Zanube - Have you seriously only made 2 posts?!? 1 to say hi and 1 to comment on dreaming? 

15. Red - I'm still having a hard time with your claiming as early as you did, especially after the ration of crap you gave Yates for his claim. We weren't near deadline and you were just at half the vote required for a lynch. Are you still voting Tommy over the Goat thing? Leaning jumpy scum. Also - I won't read skittle puke or quotes within quotes, so I probably won't read half your posts. 

16. Nyankat (Nyn/Kat) - Meow. Okay, Nyn so far seems genuine in her posting. Townish lean on her

17. Mynd - Doing his beating the grass thing. Hi Mynd. So you thought Red claimed a big gun for a bit? Yeah unfortunately not. How do you feel about her super early claim? Why fear the hydras? 

18. Tommy - I don't really see where Tommy is "squirming" like Red seems to think he is. His posts are coming off with a townie vibe. Town lean

19. Yates - opened with a claim of VT, slight distraction but haven't seen any erratic behavior from him. Null 

 

unvote, vote Red

 

Bold are some peeps I've had my eye on lately. Leelou gives Nol a town lean, even tho she fencesits, null on Megaloud even tho she fencesits, null on Lenlo, but cheers him on a bit as well (as opposed to questioning Lenlo or something to flesh out the read moar), slight scum lean on Dawn, and doesn't even really give a read on Mynd, but questions him instead.

 

Looks significant imo.

 

Plus, look at the italics, her read on Red. She ends up voting Red, but says she won't be reading most of her posts. That's like... just major sketchballs isn't it? I could see her saying she won't be reading Red's posts because she's LOCK SCUM to her, but Leelou doesn't even seem that confident in her read on Red. "I'm still having a hard time"..."leaning jumpy scum" are all most soft indicators of scumminess for her, not strong ones. And yet... Leelou says she won't be reading most of Red's posts. Indicating she isn't interested in reaffirming her read on her at all.

 

Did Leelou leave her vote parked on Red for a while after this?

[Nolder]

 

 

Are people going to start telling me to leave the forum?

 

Just when I thought I was making any sort of headway.

Cool.

He's talking about JetNations mafia forum.

 

 

Oh so JN mafia is Jetnations site. I always wondered what was meant bu JN. Is it a good site to play on?

 

Only if you're not an oversensitive crybaby who can't take a joke.

[Cory Caboose]

For both my sanity, because I just got to this post by red, and for amega (who is misled):

 

6. Crayjay (Cory/Andrej) - pinged for how defensive they got over a vote on Tom, and how hard they worked to pressure me to move my vote.  crappy voting reason aside, they started this push before i said why i was keeping my vote there.  this reaction caused me to stay put (that and i wont have my vote bullied off a person just because he's their friend and i dont like to vote hop a lot when the game actually starts).  Cory did not as far as casing me, just tried to insult me off his friends wagon.  AJ took lead on applying the direct pressure.  at first his casing was solid and possibly townish ... but then he started trying to set the lynch up on me and trap me so that no matter how i moved he could continue a case on me.  he also tried to drag back up the distraction convo of discussing what tom meant by Goat. i disliked this and decided to get obstinate at him.  he then tried to spilt his focus at one point by starting up with you (Yates) regaurding your claim.  possibly to continue the push against you after i flip, or possibly becuase he saw i made a good point (though i doubt the latter as he didn't chime in wiht Mynd when he saw Mynd made a good point on Mish)

 

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I have had to explain this several times over the past few games and I felt like at times I was able to get through to certain people, so I guess I mineswell keep trying.

If you have ever believed that I have defended someone because they are my friend, you are sorely mistaken. I hold absolutely NO outside allegiances.

If you have ever believed that I have cleared someone as town or believe someone is more likely to be town because they are my friend, you are sorely mistaken.

 

The level to which I have been confronted and accused is absurd, and most people who actually bother to try and understand my thought process usually come around to the correct conclusion.

I play Mafia a certain way - I analyze thought process primarily and see if each player has a sensible narrative akin to the way they think, which can be difficult with a group of heteroclitic thinkers - but that's Mafia, and it's a game I enjoy playing.

 

There are certain players who I know have a very similar thought process to mine - Tommy and Des are good examples - and the best way for me to determine their alignment is to see if they see the things I see in the thread. The more naturally they come to the conclusions I come to, the easier it is to believe they are seeing the game through the same lens as I.
 

I give no free passes. If you are town, I want to identify you as town as soon as possible because that's one less Mafia suspect. Towns that have a solid foundation succeed a great deal more often than scattered towns with rogue agendas.

Red, if you think I was insulting you and not handling you as a suspect, I am sorry that you do not see the game the way I do. I have not attempted nor would like to attempt offending anyone in this game - I recognize about all else it is a game. I am trying to win the most effective way I've learned how.

 

With that said, being obstinate because you don't feel like you are being "treated fairly" is going to do little but harm your own alignment. Work with the people you most easily recognize as having the same goals as you.

 

Amega I am not going to respond to your FOS because it is not grounded in reality. You hyperfocus on my casing of Dawn, which I explained very thoroughly several times over and still maintain. Moreso, it's a fraction of what I have done in this game, and incredibly snipy. I'll have more for you when my reread is over, but at this point I'm trudging thanks to the unnecessary bog of much of this game's logic.

 

Okay, back to reading.

[dicetosser1]

notice i forgot to un vote

 

##unvote

[Cory Caboose]

notice i forgot to un vote

 

##unvote

 

dice you're really with it this game

[Xthrax]

 

 

 

Are people going to start telling me to leave the forum?

 

Just when I thought I was making any sort of headway.

Cool.

He's talking about JetNations mafia forum.

 

 

Oh so JN mafia is Jetnations site. I always wondered what was meant bu JN. Is it a good site to play on?

 

Only if you're not an oversensitive crybaby who can't take a joke.

 

Then it seems ok. A lot of players here seems to be there as well-Darthe, Csarmi, Leelou, you etc.  

[Nolder]

notice i forgot to un vote

 

##unvote

wtf r u doin?

[hazelkrs1]

notice i forgot to un vote

 

##unvote

[hazelkrs1]

Whoops wrong gif

[hazelkrs1]

notice i forgot to un vote

 

##unvote

 

There we go

[Cory Caboose]

I joked about dice first guys

 

Enjoy my sloppy seconds

[dicetosser1]

was just coming back to say that was a stuff up lol. Im still catching up, read something cory said about my vote still being on and realized i never voted.  totally forgot it was night lol

 

 

 

 

....ooops???  

[Cory Caboose]

[Lenlo]

notice i forgot to un vote

 

##unvote

 

I joked about dice first guys

 

Enjoy my sloppy seconds

Always BB.