[Advanced] Red Wedding Mafia - Post Game, MakersMark

[Myndrunner]

 

If we lynch one of these, our reward far outweighs our risk, especially with the added benefit of proper casing.  Suppose we lynch Nyankat and they flip town.  Big deal.  We lose one townie with two brains.  If they flip mafia, we can eliminate two mouthpieces from their mafia QT.  That is two less people trying to distract and sway us in the wrong direction.  No risk of tag-teaming us off a cliff.

That's assuming they can't stay in their mafia QTs.

Most mods here let them. I personally usually give them the option to move on to a dead thread or stay with their team.

Point is killing them doesn't necessarily eliminate their voices.

 

That said I am more than willing to start a train on any hydra team for the purely selfish reason that I think they're dumb and don't belong in this game.

Lead the way.

 

 

True, some games let them continue in the QT.   But there is also the added advantage of two mafia voices in the game thread now extinguished.

 

Look at Mishtress, for example.  Based on Mish's posts, I'd say scum.  Tress swoops in and throws a very solid scumhunter read and suddenly I'm moving them both down my list.  Hydras give the mafia an extra voice and an extra person to cause chaos.  The benefit of us cutting out this advantage outweighs the risk of eliminating a townie with two heads.

[Tommyrod]

[WWWwombat]

 

 

If we lynch one of these, our reward far outweighs our risk, especially with the added benefit of proper casing.  Suppose we lynch Nyankat and they flip town.  Big deal.  We lose one townie with two brains.  If they flip mafia, we can eliminate two mouthpieces from their mafia QT.  That is two less people trying to distract and sway us in the wrong direction.  No risk of tag-teaming us off a cliff.

That's assuming they can't stay in their mafia QTs.

Most mods here let them. I personally usually give them the option to move on to a dead thread or stay with their team.

Point is killing them doesn't necessarily eliminate their voices.

 

That said I am more than willing to start a train on any hydra team for the purely selfish reason that I think they're dumb and don't belong in this game.

Lead the way.

 

 

True, some games let them continue in the QT.   But there is also the added advantage of two mafia voices in the game thread now extinguished.

 

Look at Mishtress, for example.  Based on Mish's posts, I'd say scum.  Tress swoops in and throws a very solid scumhunter read and suddenly I'm moving them both down my list.  Hydras give the mafia an extra voice and an extra person to cause chaos.  The benefit of us cutting out this advantage outweighs the risk of eliminating a townie with two heads.

 

 

Sort of casts a new light on Mish telling people to look at Tress and then jetting from the thread doesn't it?

[WWWwombat]

Also, I prefer to think of myself and Despo as Kvothe/Jaco

 

Verbalina can be Spidey/Skadi or something.

[dawnflower8]

 

 

 

 

 

I'm surprised there are any players reading me as anything other than null.

 

 

Dawn you should expect your self to be viewed as scum from day 1 to think otherwise is a fantasy. Why are you trying to divert attention from yourself. If you are town your play will speak the truth. 

 

A lot of players automatically think I'm town though, too.

 

 

@Dawn.  I am totally serious, but I just have to know so that I can appropriately case your posts and logic.....and to make sure I have the appropriate level of sarcasm and ridicule that I am about to give you. 

 

How old are you?

 

I am 14. I think it says on my profile.

[Myndrunner]

Meta reads so far....

Roster:

 

1. Mistress (Mish/Tress)  If I read Mish only, I'd say scum.  Tress is being a townie tress though.  Meta = lawful neutral

 

2. Desbat (Wombat/Des)  Only Darthe would join these two in unholy matrimony.  I want to lynch them just so I can sleep at night.  Still, no reason to actually call them scum.....yet. 

5. MegaLoud (Amega/Cloud)  Could go either way with these two.  I have an idea, but I'll hold off on this for a bit. 

6. Crayjay (Cory/Andrej) - Not familiar with Cory.  Got some very good insight into AJ's playstyle recently.  Gonna put them low on the list for now. 

11. Princess Verbalina of Kindelbury (Verb/Tina) -  Verby is usually very quiet on Day 1.  When he is town, he's usually a Day 2 scumhunter.  Tina is not and is being way too quiet for her own good.  If these two are both playing as one mafia player, we're in trouble. 

12. Halleeloujah (Leelou/Hally)  - I don't know Hally.  Leelou I do.  Likely scum. 

16. Nyankat (Nyn/Kat)  -  Nyn is playing a lot more coy, and not trying to make the game about her.  Could be a scum tell.  NULL read on Kat. 

[WWWwombat]

Bruins win.  Expect happy Leelou.

[Myndrunner]

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm surprised there are any players reading me as anything other than null.

 

 

Dawn you should expect your self to be viewed as scum from day 1 to think otherwise is a fantasy. Why are you trying to divert attention from yourself. If you are town your play will speak the truth. 

 

A lot of players automatically think I'm town though, too.

 

 

@Dawn.  I am totally serious, but I just have to know so that I can appropriately case your posts and logic.....and to make sure I have the appropriate level of sarcasm and ridicule that I am about to give you. 

 

How old are you?

 

I am 14. I think it says on my profile.

 

 

I really want to get an idea of your logic.  No offense meant, but your age explains your posts.  You are being overly anxious that people think you are town for no reason.  It suggests a guilty conscience and therefore makes you look scum.  The old me would have let you have it with both barrels, but I am going to give you a chance.

 

In your opinion, who do you think are the top three possible scum players in this game?  Based on what you have read so far.

[Myndrunner]

 

 

 

 

If we lynch one of these, our reward far outweighs our risk, especially with the added benefit of proper casing.  Suppose we lynch Nyankat and they flip town.  Big deal.  We lose one townie with two brains.  If they flip mafia, we can eliminate two mouthpieces from their mafia QT.  That is two less people trying to distract and sway us in the wrong direction.  No risk of tag-teaming us off a cliff.

That's assuming they can't stay in their mafia QTs.

Most mods here let them. I personally usually give them the option to move on to a dead thread or stay with their team.

Point is killing them doesn't necessarily eliminate their voices.

 

That said I am more than willing to start a train on any hydra team for the purely selfish reason that I think they're dumb and don't belong in this game.

Lead the way.

 

 

True, some games let them continue in the QT.   But there is also the added advantage of two mafia voices in the game thread now extinguished.

 

Look at Mishtress, for example.  Based on Mish's posts, I'd say scum.  Tress swoops in and throws a very solid scumhunter read and suddenly I'm moving them both down my list.  Hydras give the mafia an extra voice and an extra person to cause chaos.  The benefit of us cutting out this advantage outweighs the risk of eliminating a townie with two heads.

 

 

 

Sort of casts a new light on Mish telling people to look at Tress and then jetting from the thread doesn't it?

 

 

Yes it do!!!

[Tommyrod]

I really want to get an idea of your logic.  No offense meant, but your age explains your posts.  You are being overly anxious that people think you are town for no reason.  It suggests a guilty conscience and therefore makes you look scum.  The old me would have let you have it with both barrels, but I am going to give you a chance.

 

In your opinion, who do you think are the top three possible scum players in this game?  Based on what you have read so far.

As much as I enjoy a good Dawn bashing, this isn't true. Why would scum be anxious if they were townread? What you're describing is far more likely to be townie behavior, so I have no idea why you said this because it's like the one thing that's actually in her favor. 

[Tommyrod]

 

 

 

 

 

If we lynch one of these, our reward far outweighs our risk, especially with the added benefit of proper casing.  Suppose we lynch Nyankat and they flip town.  Big deal.  We lose one townie with two brains.  If they flip mafia, we can eliminate two mouthpieces from their mafia QT.  That is two less people trying to distract and sway us in the wrong direction.  No risk of tag-teaming us off a cliff.

That's assuming they can't stay in their mafia QTs.

Most mods here let them. I personally usually give them the option to move on to a dead thread or stay with their team.

Point is killing them doesn't necessarily eliminate their voices.

 

That said I am more than willing to start a train on any hydra team for the purely selfish reason that I think they're dumb and don't belong in this game.

Lead the way.

 

 

True, some games let them continue in the QT.   But there is also the added advantage of two mafia voices in the game thread now extinguished.

 

Look at Mishtress, for example.  Based on Mish's posts, I'd say scum.  Tress swoops in and throws a very solid scumhunter read and suddenly I'm moving them both down my list.  Hydras give the mafia an extra voice and an extra person to cause chaos.  The benefit of us cutting out this advantage outweighs the risk of eliminating a townie with two heads.

 

 

 

Sort of casts a new light on Mish telling people to look at Tress and then jetting from the thread doesn't it?

 

 

Yes it do!!!

 

 

Do you realize that Wombat is implying it makes Mish look worse or are you just throwing words onto a page? You are such an odd creature to me. 

[Nolder]

Mynd is one of a kind.

 

He's like a unicorn.

[Myndrunner]

 

 

 

I really want to get an idea of your logic.  No offense meant, but your age explains your posts.  You are being overly anxious that people think you are town for no reason.  It suggests a guilty conscience and therefore makes you look scum.  The old me would have let you have it with both barrels, but I am going to give you a chance.

 

In your opinion, who do you think are the top three possible scum players in this game?  Based on what you have read so far.

As much as I enjoy a good Dawn bashing, this isn't true. Why would scum be anxious if they were townread? What you're describing is far more likely to be townie behavior, so I have no idea why you said this because it's like the one thing that's actually in her favor. 

 

 

Let me rephrase.  "...overly anxious FOR people to think you are town for no reason" as in she wants to make sure people know she is town and has townie dreams on her townie pillow at night so please don't think she's scum. 

[Tommyrod]

I've been a professional mafia player since Halloween, roughly. During 2014 I've been netting average $15k/mo sponsorship contracts from the NMPA and MAFiAAA to entertain spectators with astounding feats of wit and cunning. I'm really much better at being mafia than I am at being town, so you should never ever trust me, but you should always listen to me because I know what's good for the village. Probably.

 

In my spare time I like to whittle. 

[Tommyrod]

Let me rephrase.  "...overly anxious FOR people to think you are town for no reason" as in she wants to make sure people know she is town and has townie dreams on her townie pillow at night so please don't think she's scum.

That one makes sense. Good for you.

[Cory Caboose]

Too many wolves not enough villagers

 

Someone play

[dawnflower8]

 

I really want to get an idea of your logic.  No offense meant, but your age explains your posts.  You are being overly anxious that people think you are town for no reason.  It suggests a guilty conscience and therefore makes you look scum.  The old me would have let you have it with both barrels, but I am going to give you a chance.

 

In your opinion, who do you think are the top three possible scum players in this game?  Based on what you have read so far.

As much as I enjoy a good Dawn bashing, this isn't true. Why would scum be anxious if they were townread? What you're describing is far more likely to be townie behavior, so I have no idea why you said this because it's like the one thing that's actually in her favor. 

 

I was thinking the same thing... I'm not "anxious" about being townread since I want to be townread. I just want to know WHY people townread me. 

[Yates]

During 2014 I've been netting average $15k/mo sponsorship contracts from the NMPA and MAFiAAA to entertain spectators with astounding feats of wit and cunning.

Pshh.  That's my HOURLY rate...  Noob.

[Tommyrod]

 

During 2014 I've been netting average $15k/mo sponsorship contracts from the NMPA and MAFiAAA to entertain spectators with astounding feats of wit and cunning.

Pshh.  That's my HOURLY rate...  Noob.

 

I like this one. I say we force hydra him with Mynd. 

[Songstress]

 

 

 

 

During 2014 I've been netting average $15k/mo sponsorship contracts from the NMPA and MAFiAAA to entertain spectators with astounding feats of wit and cunning.

Pshh. That's my HOURLY rate... Noob.

I like this one. I say we force hydra him with Mynd.

But then Nol will want to kill them. Boo!

[Tommyrod]

[Myndrunner]

 

 

 

Official Bloody Vote Count:

Nol (1/10): Halleeloujah

Verbalina (1/10): Len

Crayjay (1/10): Dice

Yates (2/10): Verbalina, Krak

Mistress (4/10): Mynd, NyanCat, MegaLoud, Desbat

Tommy (1/10): Red

Red (5/10): CrayJay, Dawn, Nol, Tommy, Yates

Desbat (1/10): Mistress

 

Not Voting (3/19):

X, Jack, Zen

 

45 Hours Remaining

 

 

 

I cannot brain tonight, I have teh dumb.

 

Intelligent commentary will have to wait for after sleep.

 

Hopefully tonight I won't have another nightmare about being chased by a hired assassin whilst barefoot and wearing pajamas, and being unable to get my phone to dial 9-1-1. (Yeah, I have some wicked strange dreams.)

 

 

Game was starting to get on track, and people start talking about nothing again.

 

Feel iffy about Des for not doing his usual big cath-up post and hopping straight into non-gamerelated talk again.

 

 

 

Greetings to all you pitiful smallfolk.
Btw guys, WINTER IS COMING

 

How come everyone but Red ignored this? Trying to hard to seem town much.

 

##Vote X

 

 

How is that trying to seem town?

 

 

Mish retreat to wolfchat and we'll discuss your exit strategy

 

lel

 

 

HEY LOOK GUYS IM A STARK. On like page 3 of the game.

 

do you all have tumbler or something. You guys always have the perfect gifs and memes at the most convenient times 

 

It's called google.

 

 

I didn't get any scummy vibes from Mish's first post but her vote on X and the way she changed her story after Mynd started pressuring her are both pretty turrible. It appears Mynd has struck a nerve because she has started flailing around a bit as well.

 

Red nudging on Mish but actually voting for Tom because of a joke is gross as well. 

 

Dawn is being Dawn. It will take some time for me to get an accurate read on her.

 

I have no idea what the current VC is *looks at Darthe* but competing trains would be a good idea.

 

 

##Vote Mish

 

 

Changed my story how? Show plz.

 

 

 

 

I'm fascinated by all these votes on me, and none of the voters have mention the other part of my slot. Very interesting.

 

 

Fact is still we are one slot and people voting me while ignoring her is still not very good in my opinion.

 

 

 

 

 

For the record, my initial vote of Mishtress was 1/2 to just get the game started but she did over compensate quite a bit in her post.  Tress strikes me as a stronger player and probably felt like she had to do some damage control.  Mish seems to be like "um...here, talk to Tress, I can't deal..."

 

I'm feeling less inclined to believe Red.  I take it that all of our roles are people who were at the red wedding.  How important is Little Jon or whoever in relation to this event?  Would he be a bodyguard? Didn't read the books. 

 

 

 

I'm fascinated by all these votes on me, and none of the voters have mention the other part of my slot. Very interesting.

 

  Mish, we love all the parts of your slot. 

[Nolder]

If I had a daykill I promise you I would have already shot a hydra.

So there's that.

[Myndrunner]

If I had a daykill I promise you I would have already shot a hydra.

So there's that.

 

I don't like them either but they help the mafia more than town.  AAAAND there are three of them voting with me on the MISHTRESS train.  I don't like this. 

 

 

Mistress (4/10): Mynd, NyanCat, MegaLoud, Desbat

[Red2111]

 

Would love to see you expound on that, Jack.

In the most recent game that I've played with you you expanded on your overt love for early distancing. Your posts with red can be classified as distancing.

 

So I'm just saying. Your getting a little jumpy at the suggestion. Looks like i may have hit a nerve.

 

 

ping for Pete on this one.  bad pete with bad linkage.  

 

 

 

 

 

Red your reasoning for continuing to vote me makes approximately zero sense. You have an apparent scum suspect in Mish yet you are voting me "for reactions." The reactions you're getting are from probtownies who recognize this is my obvtown game.

 

Try again.

 

red - mutli taskign and casing multiple people is good.

 

you're reaction to a single vote is scummy.  you've done nothing scum hunting wise, you've only had cheerleading support for the case building on Mish, and you blatantly wagon a person with the longest train with no other reason than OMGUS and people are defending you.

 

to quote Hamlet's mother "the lady doth protest too much, me thinks,"

 

blue - the only perosn i trust in this game is myself.

 

pink - meta isn't a good defense and i dont buy it, nor do i use it to determine the scumminess ot towness of a person. 

 

green - nah i'm good.

 

Just a PSA to anyone who's not Red (since I know Red will never give it up).

I will not read posts that go full rainbow. Never go full rainbow.

 

 

its either skittle goodness or responding within the post,  pick yer poison Nol.

 

 

 

1. Okay - so you didn't find the Mynd case compelling on Mish, fair enough. What I have trouble reconciling was how you made a post regarding one of Mish's that came in response to Mynd's case, in which you go as far as to make a meme about calling her mafia and that she was going to get lynched. Also, you continue putting out these scenarios ahead of time in which you are concerned with how your interaction will look posthumously. I don't think that lends to a townie mindset. I can see how there might be some concern that you kept to yourself in event that at a later stage of the game you were cased for these types of interactions, but I think your worry over them is premature and you seem to be thinking heavily on how your words and actions will be interpreted by others. Your main goal should be to find scum and kill them.

 

2. I can agree that voting isn't necessarily the only way to case or add pressure, that said, it is usually the most effective way of doing it as a townie. Your vote is pretty much the only power you have unless you are rolled somehow. You seemed rather confident with your read at the time to go as far as making a meme for it, so again, the lack of your vote to back it doesn't look genuine.

 

3. 1 vote may not fit your definition of what a wagon is, but 1 vote is all that is needed to give momentum in a certain direction. As I said, I find the timing of your switch and the reason behind it to be odd with how Mish suddenly came under fire.

 

4. I think you should probably allow Mynd to clarify that before assuming. In the point before this you are saying how you don't like meta defense, but you are downplaying Mynd's case as meta.

 

Purple stuff: When did I ever say that? lol I'm all for multiple cases to weigh with accompanying counter wagons. I'm taking this as you saying that you think your case on Tom was a legitimate one. You have also said that people are assuming it was joke, including myself, so perhaps you could clarify. Was your vote legit or joke? What exactly is your case on Tom? Why are you still voting him now that your original reasoning has been disproven?

 

Again, with the damned if you do damned if you don't think - you called Mish mafia. Why are you concerned with how you moving your vote to someone you think is mafia will be viewed negatively? Admittedly, yes, it certainly wouldn't help my picture of you but your concern here is really troubling me.

 

 

1 - the meme came after i had moved my vote to tomtom (which was on a joke vote on Amega).  i called her Mafia in the meme because when i read it using the word scum it seemed a bit ... it didn't come off the way i wanted it to with the "u're so gonna be lynched" at the bottom.    i'm always concerned about being linked to another player, especially as town.  i dont like linkage  *glares at pete*, my alignment should never clear another person.  and mafia is a chess game, you always think a few moves ahead when you play whether you're town or scum.  

 

2 - im not your normal townie and i have my own style and i walk to the beat of my own drum.

 

3 - you're vote is not your only power as town.  a vote is nothing without a case to get behind it.  and its not the vote that gets people to support the wagon you're trying to start, its your case on the person (unless youre a finder and are outting scum).  

 

4 - no, you asked why i reacted the way i did to Mynds case, i explained my reasoning.  this doens't belittle Mynds case or how he went about.  in all counts his move was successful as far as i'm concerned.

 

that said, this part of the convo is becomming a distraction and isn't scum hunting at all.  i'm not keen to get itno a 3rd distraction discussion in 1 day with my arse still being on the lynch wall.

 

 

purple OTOH is game realated for now -

 

if having mutliple trains is a good thing and you now care about my vote being on tomtom then you contradict yourseAndrej, on 24 Apr 2014 - 2:19 PM, said:

 

 

Tbh, I really don't care who you voted for or for what reasons. My main point was how you immediately started a counter wagon to Mish's once Mynd made what I thought was a pretty good point. The fact that you voted Tom over something completely null is just icing on the cake. You see?

 

 

you state yourself its not even who my vote is on or why i cast my vote.  its that i moved my vote to a different person right after Mynd started casing Mish.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm SmallJon Umber and i'm a bodygaurd.

Well we have no one for you to BG for and if we let you go and you're legit you'll most likely be dead tonight anyway.

I think I'd rather lynch you and test the claim than let you walk. Besides, I think it's BS anyway.

You've been flailing ever since Tom got on your case.

 

Keeping my vote where it is.

 

 

nol  plz explain the bolded.

 

She's claiming BG. Who are we going to have her protect? Yates? lol

Her role, even if it's real, is pretty much useless right now. 

I'm more ok with losing a BG on day one more than I am letting scum get away.

 

 

um, whose this we you're talking about Nol.  just because i revealed doesn't mean i'm letting you direct who i protect.  i'm a big girl and capable of my own decisions.  

 

heavy FoS for trying to direct my NA and for one of the worsts reasons i've seen yet to keep a vote on me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm gonna need you to explain this a bit further. Why the switch from Red to Mishtress? Quotes are explanations would work best for me, thx.

 

 

Because Cloud's case is good.  Mish changed her story to suit her fake active purposes.  First, she was too tired to catch up, but then she wasn't.

 

Red is definitely scummy imo, but a lot of the things she's taking heat for are things she does as town too.  For instance, the whole argument with Yates is irrelevant.  It's something Red would have done as town or scum imo.  She picks little things and doesn't let them go.

 

I don't like Red's claim at all, but I don't think we should just let Mishtress slide by either.

 

^ THIS!

 

If this is still the Red I know, then she likes to swing from the feces fences especially when vanilla town.

 

Gonna eat my chilli cheese fries while catching up.  I have a feeling that one of the mafia have already revealed themselves with their own posts.

 

Does this mean you're going 180 on Red now? 

 

 

to do a 180 on my, womby would have been having to case me.  he didn't.  he only voted me first, an action which i see as a null tbh.

 

 

Tress may be the victim of having a crummy lab partner.  Mish's defensiveness and overcompensation in her posts may simply be one intimidated by all the BDS's in this game. Knowing what I do now about how the hydra thing works, methinks they are actually both town....or are town.....they both are one person who is town.  Maybe.

 

Having said that, I still think that looking at these tandem teams as a whole is something to consider.  More on that in a bit.....Lemme jump to Red for a moment.

 

Unless her playstyle has changed since I last played tummy sticks with her, Red isn't one to bluff a PR if she is Mafia.  She's more about putting others on the offensive.  Having said this, I wouldn't put it past her to do so as mafia if she were about to be lynched, just to see who counterclaims. 

 

Here is the thing, if we are wrong about Red and she is indeed a BG, we could lose a valuable role and the scum can experience relief.  If we let Red live today and no one other than the scum night kill ends up dead, then Lucy has some splainin to do.  Sure, there is the chance that she might kill another townie, but I trust Town Red's scumhunting skills.   Put a gun in her hand and you've got Black Widow.   I can see why the mafia are scared of her in this game.

 

Hence, the bullet train. 

 

explain the blue please.  

 

 

to the green - thats funny, its the skin pack i use on my Minecraft character XD

 

 

Now, consider this.  There are 16 player slots.  According to the OP, 5 are mafia.  That means we have 11/5 town to scum.

 

I don't like these hydra teams one bit, especially when you place a Womby with a Despo or a Verb with a Tinaheck.  That's like having a player who is Batman AND Kratos. 

 

More importantly, there are 7 of these freaks.  The odds of at least 3 of them being scum are pretty good, I'd say.  While a 2 person Hydra Townie is really just the same as masons who both die together, a 2 person scum member is actually part of 6 maybe 7 individual scum entities, even if there are only 5 bodies to kill.  Quite a big brain pool.  They may be one person in this thread, but they would be two people on the Mafia QT.  Twice the input.  Twice the scum. 

 

Roster:

 

1. Mistress (Mish/Tress)

2. Desbat (Wombat/Des)

5. MegaLoud (Amega/Cloud)

6. Crayjay (Cory/Andrej)

11. Princess Verbalina of Kindelbury (Verb/Tina)

12. Halleeloujah (Leelou/Hally)

16. Nyankat (Nyn/Kat)

 

If we lynch one of these, our reward far outweighs our risk, especially with the added benefit of proper casing.  Suppose we lynch Nyankat and they flip town.  Big deal.  We lose one townie with two brains.  If they flip mafia, we can eliminate two mouthpieces from their mafia QT.  That is two less people trying to distract and sway us in the wrong direction.  No risk of tag-teaming us off a cliff.

 

I am not saying that we should ignore the single players here.  I'm saying that we probably should go after who among these unnatural hydra freaks are the most likely to be scum.

 

Right now, Mistress looks it.....but what about Verbalina?  Awful quiet. 

 

 

so long as you're not arguing just lynching them becuase their hydras then i can see the logic

 

##UNVOTE

 

##VOTE MISTRESS

 

i could roll with lynching Yates though.  his reaction to people poking him about his claim diserves a bit more pressure imo

 

 

 

During 2014 I've been netting average $15k/mo sponsorship contracts from the NMPA and MAFiAAA to entertain spectators with astounding feats of wit and cunning.

Pshh.  That's my HOURLY rate...  Noob.

 

 

so theres other game related stuff happening, but now that no ones presuring you directly you go back to spammign it up.  *nods*

 

 

aside from defending yourself, you're only other interaction has been to lay WIFOM, and respond to off topic content (lucid dreaming and now the above)

 

ping #2 on you.