[Advanced/Experimental] Mass Effect I - Hydra Game - Game Over

[Tyler Glembo]

  On 4/3/2014 at 3:59 AM, Andrej said:

 

 

 

/thread

 

AJ wins.

[Lenlo]

  On 4/3/2014 at 3:41 AM, TGlems said:

 

  On 4/3/2014 at 2:37 AM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 4/3/2014 at 2:04 AM, Andrej said:

What are your thoughts currently Leno?

Ill get them to you tomorrow morning when im not tired. For now im chilling with friends watching our schools basketball game.

 

Just letting you know im not ignoring you.

 

 

Also want to hear RTE's thoughts.  One hydra head != Other hydra head.

 

No see, your forgetting. I staged a coup and RTE is no longer a part of this monarchy.

 

((Again, dunno. I has no control.))

[csarmi]

Votecount 2.04

 

J-TAG (3) - Sexy Sisters, Clarthe, RTL

PFG (2) - YoloHashSwag, CRUNK

YoloHashSWag (3) - PFG, J-TAG, WiFuM

 

Not voting: Spliffanity, HaXorz

 

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

 

Deadline-D2

[BFG]

  On 3/30/2014 at 5:12 AM, csarmi said:

Vote Count - 1.09

 

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

 

YoloHashSwag (1) - J-TAG

Clarthe (1) - Spliffanity

J-TAG (1) - RTL

Straw Hats (3) - Clarthe, HaXorz, WIFUM

WiFuM (3) - YoloHashSwag, Sexy Sisters, CRUNK

HaXorz (1) - Evil Siblings

RTL (1) - Straw Hats

Sexy Sisters (1) - PFG

 

not voting : -

 

Deadline: Deadline-D1

 

Please note that we have switched to daylight saving. Hopefully everywhere by now. The deadline is 59 hours and 48 minutes from now.

So 2.5 days to deadline, Clarthe, Haxorx and WiFuM are probably town.

 

 

  On 3/31/2014 at 3:24 AM, csarmi said:

Vote Count - 1.11

 

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

 

YoloHashSwag (1) - J-TAG

Clarthe (1) - Spliffanity

Straw Hats (5) - Clarthe, HaXorz, WIFUM, SexySisters, RTL

WiFuM (2) - YoloHashSwag, CRUNK

RTL (1) - Straw Hats

Sexy Sisters (1) - PFG

 

not voting : Evil Siblings

 

Deadline: Deadline-D1

 

The VC from before the claim. Then Amega claims and Jack unvotes.

 

  On 3/31/2014 at 3:13 AM, amegakure said:

im the tracker. slow your boat!

 

 

  On 3/31/2014 at 3:15 AM, Jack_D said:

##unvote

 

I've tried to grab everyone's reactions to the claim. 

 

  On 3/31/2014 at 4:24 AM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 3/31/2014 at 2:35 AM, TGlems said:

I'll comment on my partner's reads a bit, basically where I disagree.

 

I thought Amega's first post was gross.  A joke vote along with a justification for it?  I've had a scum read since then.  Thane's fence sitting post didn't tell me much since he is brand new.

 

Ithi looks scummy to me.  It more looks like she is running commentary than actual scumhunting.  But I like Turin's input so far so overall null on wifum.

 

Similar with the siblings.  Lily's tone doesn't look good but Jack has been reasonable and I have a town read on him. 

 

Only other place I don't agree is on the RTL as I didn't like Len's catchup post nearly as much as AJ did. 

 

Anything I don't comment on I agree with AJ

D: Why not?

 

 

So this is Lenlo's first post after the claim, no mention of the claim to say whether he believes it or not.

 

  On 3/31/2014 at 4:59 AM, Turin Turambar said:

Excuse me for being cynical but this looks like a staged play. first Amega makes a town claim without a role.

 

...

 

My take is that if you were gonna role claim at L-1 you might as well have done it at L-2. That Jack was the one prodding you for last words (reads) and/or a claim only makes me more suspicious of both of you. The entire thing looks too neat. 

 

My vote stays unless someone can make a better case for someone else. 

 

 

Here is your opportunity AJ. convince me.

 

 

  On 3/31/2014 at 5:28 AM, Darthe said:

...

 

I almost can't believe that Jack would do this.

Fakest interaction of the game.  No way in hell is Amega tracker.  Lynch anytime folks.

 

 

  On 3/31/2014 at 8:04 AM, Despothera said:

Just gonna pump a SOC out first since there's quite a lot I caught up on, and will then knock out a WOT after. Might do a whole reread in fact.

 

So Strawhats claim Tracker. Boy oh boy there's a lot that looks weird about how his claim came out. A couple have pointed out the oddness in Jack voting then unvoting, how it looks staged. Well add to that that Amega tried looking all righteous about not claiming at L-2, yet acts all scrambly and goes "Oh noes! Don't lynch the Tracker!" when he gets one more vote from Jack. What was he expecting? That instant flip in his tone and manner just does NOT mesh with a townie mindset. If Amega was gonna act all cool for school and not claim at L-2, I don't see him getting all panicky with his claim at L-1. Moar like "W/e guys, I'm the Tracker" would be expected.

 

There's actually a lot of other irregularities and pings from them (like Amega's recent reread posts are crap), but I for one would rather set them aside as practically confirmed scum and lynch elsewhere. I'll point out some of the other stuff in my wot.

 

 

  On 3/31/2014 at 8:22 AM, TinaHel said:

We have not been able to talk much at all. My internet disappeared and then Leelou´s. She felt like you just did some newbie mistakes but I felt it was more than that. She has not been on to read the latest stuff. 

 

I agree with Turin, Darthe and Des - that claim and unvote from Jack really looks fake. I won´t move our vote.

 

 

  On 3/31/2014 at 8:57 AM, Leelou said:

I'm going to Starbucks in an few hours just so I can read this mess of a thread.

 

 

 

 

  On 3/31/2014 at 1:17 PM, Ithillian said:

There's quite a few people saying Than is new so to cut him a break.

 

I hate second guessing myself but part of me wonders at this blatant defending. Do these people know Ameg and Than are Town or are defending a team mate?

 

They haven't defended themselves very well and the 'I'm not gonna claim, L-1 vote by Jack, claim and unvote' doesn't feel good to me.

 

But my break's over now.

 

 

  On 3/31/2014 at 2:14 PM, Leelou said:

Straw Hats (Amega, Thane) - I was getting mostly a newbie/not strong player vibe from this team. They have revealed tracker, but it is leaving a dirty taste in your mouth. Their reveal went - na na, poo poo, we aren't revealing at L-2...oh we are at L-1??? OMG GUYZ WE ARE TRACKER,WHY U VOTING US? Not sure I buy their claim as town tracker. Up until this point I was getting the newbie/not strong player townieness, but now it could just be a botched attempt to save one's self. I actually want to leave our vote here.

[BFG]

  On 3/31/2014 at 2:31 PM, Hallia said:

Considering you see Straw Hats as mafia, and I was one of the first to really vote/go after them, it seems strange that you're also so sure that I'm mafia.  And also, what fence sitting?  There is no fence, I think they're both town.  Not sure how that's me stating I'm not sure one way or the other, I'm pretty sure that's me giving a definitive answer.  (Doing my best by myself, yesterday was a busy day and I dunno when my partner is coming back)

So this is Hallia's first post after the claim. No mention of the claim, but still think she's likely to be cleared by the lynch.

 

  On 3/31/2014 at 2:58 PM, Despothera said:

Conclusion: Purdy strong scumreads on Strawhats, Evil Siblings, and J-TAG.

 

Town reads on WiFuM, RTL, Sexy Sistahs, HaXorZ.

 

Juries still out on Clarthe, Spliffanity, PFG, and Crunk. Prob feel best about PFG and Clarthe out of that crew, but meh.

 

I'm thinking now that we got a claim out of Thane/Amega, we set him aside since he's tied to the claim anyways. His days are numbered if he's scum, which I still think he is.

 

Since we still got a lot of time, Imma go with ##Vote Evil Sibs.

So votes ES over SH, despite thinking Sh are mafia, but leaves wriggle room on the claim.

 

 

  On 3/31/2014 at 5:59 PM, Krakalakachkn said:

Had a busy weekend, but back and catching up.

 

Krak's first post

 

  On 3/31/2014 at 7:02 PM, Lenlo said:

Hey! I dont force nuttin.

 

Lenlo still hasn't commented

 

  On 3/31/2014 at 8:20 PM, Despothera said:

Turin/Ithi + Lily/Jack competing trains would be interesting indeeeeeeed

 

I'm GO for that plan

 

and now there's no mention of SH as an existing train

 

  On 3/31/2014 at 10:21 PM, Lenlo said:

Well lets get the obvious one out of the way. You have me as scum and im not. Of course, who didnt expect that?

 

Then you have one of my biggest town reads as scum and one of my biggest scum reads as town with another as null. Again kinda obvious seeing as id given some reads earlier.

 

One thing im curious about the most though is why the bolds? Whats that mean?

 

I still want to know why you wouldn't state the teams you disagreed with.

 

  On 4/1/2014 at 12:55 AM, Lenlo said:

Not buying it. Still want to lynch Amega/Thane. Cory im gonna get you the reasons why I dont like your list soon, as I just got out of lab.

 

So this is the first time he mentions Amega/Thane after the lynch

 

  On 4/1/2014 at 12:59 AM, Krakalakachkn said:

Hit the search button in the top right corner without typing anything in.  Fill in the player's name, hit Display as Posts, and hit search.  It won't be in any sort of logical order, but it is better than nothing.

 

Another post from Krak, no mention of the flip

 

Then there's an interesting conversation between Cory & Lenlo

 

  On 4/1/2014 at 1:17 AM, corycurren said:

 

  On 4/1/2014 at 1:08 AM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 3/31/2014 at 8:44 PM, corycurren said:

Slot02 : YoloHashSwag (Despo, Verbal) - 

Agreed on this, nothing wrong here.

Slot09 : Clarthe (Cloud, Darthe) - I find them scummy. I havnt liked Clouds posts many of them have been absolute crap to me and Darthes damage control hasnt mitigated it enough for me.

Slot08 : Spliffanity (Krak, Dap) - Agreed on this.

Slot12 : HaXorz (Hally, Xthrax) - I dont see how you can have a town read on them. They havnt posted enough imo and what they have posted hasnt been good. They are a null for me.

 

 

Slot03 : J-TAG (AJ, TG) - Agreed.

Slot04 : PFG (Pralaya, BFG) - Im leaning town on them but can understand why you get null from them, so no problem here.

Slot06 : Sexy Sisters (Tina, Leelou) - Not sure how your getting null. I find them pretty scummy. I havnt liked Leelous unexplained posts or what few posts Tina has made. They arnt big scum, but they are scum none-the-less to me.

Slot11 : Straw Hats (Amega, Thane) - Big disagree. How are these guys not scum to you? They reek. Is it that tracker claim? Cause thats bull crap and I dont believe it.

 

Slot05 : Release the Leno (RTE, Lenlo) - Me. Town. Why is disagree should be obvious.

Slot01 : WiFuM (Ithi, Turin) - I have them as town. I want to know why you have them as scum. Buddying with Verb? Cause I view them against Des/Verb as town on town violence because it went unchecked for so long. I feel scum on either side would have done something to stop it if a scum was involved.

Slot10 : Evil Siblings (Lily, Jack) - Im null/scum on them atm. I dont like their bodyguard claim and the rest of their play leaves much to be desired, so no problem here.

Responses in black.

 

I've read Cloud as town, so we just plain disagree here.

 

Hallia has had a very relaxed tone, doesn't really care how she is perceived. Very different than the last game I played with her.

 

I have trouble reading TinaHel in general, and I think the suspicion of them has been played up and is exaggerated in comparison to their actual posts, which usually means it is a scum narrative.

 

Thane has had some awful posts, but Amega seems town to me. They aren't the best lynch for the day, for sure. Do you think they are?

Ithi and Turin have had awful posts - look to me WoTs. Forced narratives, complete inability to relax under any scrutiny, overexplaining simple things, absurd amounts of fluff, etc. etc.

 

 

 

 

  On 4/1/2014 at 1:19 AM, Lenlo said:

Best lynch today? No probably not. Most likely lynch that I would accept today? Yup. 

 

For Ithi and Turin thats par for the course imo and I really think the violence with Des/Verb is town on town.

 

Why didn't you think they were the best lynch for the day? The claim was over a day before the deadline, you've been posting since then, yet made no attempt until a few posts ago to state your opinion on their train, or state who you think would be a better lynch.  

 

  On 4/1/2014 at 1:19 AM, corycurren said:

Can you explain exactly how you feel about Thane/Amega besides "they reek"?

 

I pointed out several issues with Thane in my WoT - he tangled himself up with Tina/Lee early in a way that looked sketch, but Tina/Lee has looked better to me lately so it's hard to crucify Thane for that.

 

If Amega's lying, it's going to be very difficult to keep up with that lie for a long time. What exactly reeks?

 

 

  On 4/1/2014 at 1:25 AM, Lenlo said:

I dont feel like going back and find the actual posts for quotes but Thanes posts have been what has mostly given me scummy vibes from them and nothing Amega has done has mitigated those for me. Then that fake interaction with Jack where he claimed tracker leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I dont believe him and want him lynched. I did exaggerate with the word reek though ill admit. I couldnt think of a better one and it may have been strong.

 

But now you want them lynched and don't believe their claim? So why were you saying they weren't the best lynch for the day a moment ago?

 

 

 

  On 4/1/2014 at 7:40 AM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

Literally spent my whole morning catching up on the thread. Will post when I can but am happy with where my vote is. I don't believe the claim first and foremost. Would like to play a more active game in the sense that I would like to reply to posts immediately rather than in a write up but don't have access to a computer or the thread enough at the moment. Will post when I can. Some hydras have gone completely silent in the increase of activity following Monday though so would be nice to hear from them before deadline. I'll try to keep up during coffee breaks.

RTE's first post since the claim, states that he doesn't believe it.

 

 

  On 4/1/2014 at 8:31 AM, Krakalakachkn said:

bodyguard is likely bollocs imo

 

Krak disbelieves BG claim and votes ES.

 

  On 4/1/2014 at 8:37 AM, Krakalakachkn said:

##Evil Siblings

 

  On 4/1/2014 at 8:51 AM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

Krak do you believe the town tracker claim rather than the BG claim then?

 

Don't think Krak answered this.

 

 

 

  On 4/1/2014 at 1:53 PM, Verbal32 said:

 

  On 4/1/2014 at 1:52 AM, Despothera said:

@BFG: Normally you scream townie to me, even when you're scum.

 

This game, that isn't even close to being the case.

 

Your recap posts aren't giving me much perspective into your actual thoughts, and I find myself disagreeing with a CRAP ton of em. Seriously, you continuously agree or side with someone who was just excessively scummy in that particular post. I could forgive a few examples of this sort of thing, but literally your catchup posts are littered with examples of you taking the exact opposite side I'd expect town!BFG to take here.

 

Not only that, but your partner Pray has been sniping from the sidelines all game.

 

Tell me why you shouldn't be the lynch today.

 

Agree on the BFG scum angle.  She's not appearing as a laser-focused scumhunter who analyzes the intent behind posts.  She seems like she's mailing the scumhunting in a bit.

 

 

Shrugs, I've barely had any time on DM since the game started, should hopefully be more active from now.

 

  On 4/1/2014 at 2:07 PM, TinaHel said:

Sorry for my absense. As Leelou said, I have had a family emergency. I´ll hope I can be more active from tomorrow.

Hope everything's ok.

 

 

 

At the moment I'm not liking RTL or Yolo. Think WiFuM, Hallia and Clarthe are Town and need to ISO the others.

 

Lol, that took longer than expected. Will have to finish up tomorrow.

[hazelkrs1]

 

19 in a row baby! Go Spurs Go! Big one tomorrow in OKC, will Spurs get the streak to 20?!?!?!

 

[hazelkrs1]

BFG mosdef LOCK SCUM

 

Dodges questions and points made against her, and phones in another wot that is obviously missing her normal insight. Just a lazy play by play.

 

In other news, there is literally zero value to be found in any of Turin's posts for the last few pages. I'm doing town a favor and completely disregarding them to lessen the impact of his fail on the game.

/such a nice guy

 

 

So I def wanted to see what would happen if I voted PFG. While I def thought they were scum, J-TAG looked more obviously scummy, but still it was worth it to see the reactions. And whaddya know, all of a sudden J-TAG and PFG are colluding. AJ trying to switch his read on PFG all of a sudden has been funny to watch lol. Brb, wanna show yall something...

 

[hazelkrs1]

Oh!

 

One other immensely entertaining thing to enjoy recently is AJ and TG having back and forth and "agreeing" with stuff as if they were two different slots or something. LOL!!!

 

 

AJ, I'm glad you ended up rolling scum this game. Few would be so entertaining in their desperation moves as you have been today

 

[hazelkrs1]

Also, thinking that the mafia team would have NKed a Bodyguard directly last night is incredibly low level mafia type thinking. :disappoint: @ Ithi for thinking that that was what happened.

 

Besides the fact that a BG is a nerfed Doc so not really much to worry about

 

Besides the fact that Jack gave some wifom about scum targeting them possibly being bad for them (most smart scum teams would have recognized it as wifom, but still would have just shot elsewhere to be safe)

 

And besides the fact that most people didn't buy the claim, especially after SH's Tracker claim was proven false

 

Jack/Lily were by far the easiest mislynch scum had. The way Jack voted and unvoted after the Tracker claim made them look AWFUL, and most people had them as high scum reads. Even if there's a chance scum couldn't get town to mislynch them the next day, at the very least Lily/Jack would have been a big distraction today were they still around. You don't NK your easiest mislynch target as scum, EVER. Don't assume dumb scum. Smart scum chooses to kill Lily/Jack last night 0/100 times.

[ReleaseTheEvil]

Ok so before my course starts this morning going to post a quick reads list that Despo is going to moan about. Here we go:

 

WiFuM (Ithi, Turin) - Town read. Pretty solid one. I like Turin's posts a lot and his approach to analyzing the posts of others. He's rational and his reasoning is sound.
YoloHashSwag (Despo, Verbal) - Desporrhea and Verbal. I think only Despo understands Despo sometimes and even then I'm not so sure. Verbal seems a bit more cautious this game than usual in that he isn't tunneling as much. Unfortunately I think they are town. Oh well. Despo unfortunately gets out of/doesn't care about inconsistencies between WoTs though but not really a scum tell for him. Problem is he won't post much differently as town or scum IMO.
J-TAG (AJ, TG) - J-TAG have been getting a ton of heat but I think they have handled it with a fair amount of poise and composure, despite what others may think. I think their responses have been good and keeping a pretty cool head about things has looked good in their favor. That being said not sure what to make of them not voting Day 1. Leaning town.
PFG (Pralaya, BFG) - This is where I think the scum is hiding. BFG's play seemed markedly different from a recent game and Pral is trying to save a sinking ship I think. Don't like how they looked on the lynch yesterday at all. Scummy.
Release the Leno (RTE, Lenlo) - LOCK-CLEAR (Christ, did I just say that?)
Sexy Sisters (Tina, Leelou) - Scum read. These two are either having their worst town game ever or are scum. I'm going for the latter.
CRUNK (Tom, CoryCurren) - Pretty sure Cory is in this game to make it unbearable for everyone else. All things aside when you sift through the showboating and general loud-mouthing he plays a sound game. Tom coming in is going to blow this game apart between these two and Despo. But town read right now.
Spliffanity (Krak, Dap) - Dap is MIA which makes me sad. Krak is cool in my books though. Town read on spliffies.
Clarthe (Cloud, Darthe) - Honestly null read. Darthe is playing a bit safer than usual I think and I would certainly say the same for Cloud who hasn't shot himself in the foot in a while.
HaXorz (Hally, Xthrax) - If there is one last scum it's here. Hallia is playing her usual game but not falling for it here. Something is off, I suppose it's more gut than anything else but I'm going with a scum lean. Would like to hear more though.

 

So, pretty colored list time:

 

RTL

WiFum

Spliffanity

 

CRUNK

#YOLO

J-TAG

 

PFG

SexySisters

HaXorz

Clarthe

 

## Vote PFG

 

Is this where I kiss Despo's ass now so he doesn't call my post scummy?

[Pralaya]

  On 4/3/2014 at 7:07 AM, Despothera said:

BFG mosdef LOCK SCUM

 

Dodges questions and points made against her, and phones in another wot that is obviously missing her normal insight. Just a lazy play by play.

Yeah, you have been saying that since yesterday. All you had on her are that her "meta" doesn't seem to match. Anyway, I will let BFG addresthat herself.

 

But, talking about dodging, there are already questions on you that you still not ready to answer

 

1. How did you not bring about the point that there were teams conveniently not present at the deadline to lynch the scum? Don't you think it is important? What do you think about scum wanting to keep an important role alive?

2. Specifically, what do you have to say about Cory and J-Tag not shifting their votes from another train? Same question about yourself

3. What are you reasons for "lock clear" on Cory, Clarthe etc? I understand about WiFum, but the others have no basis

 

  Quote

So I def wanted to see what would happen if I voted PFG. While I def thought they were scum, J-TAG looked more obviously scummy, but still it was worth it to see the reactions. And whaddya know, all of a sudden J-TAG and PFG are colluding. AJ trying to switch his read on PFG all of a sudden has been funny to watch lol. Brb, wanna show yall something...

Trying to scum switch to a competing train and when called out, giving out the excuse as "testing reaction" is Scum 101. Just confirms what I have saying about you so far.

[Pralaya]

  On 4/3/2014 at 7:10 AM, Despothera said:

One other immensely entertaining thing to enjoy recently is AJ and TG having back and forth and "agreeing" with stuff as if they were two different slots or something. LOL!!!

Oh, hehe. Good one.

 

You want to see who else was doing that?

 

  On 4/1/2014 at 1:53 PM, Verbal32 said:

 

  On 4/1/2014 at 1:52 AM, Despothera said:

@BFG: Normally you scream townie to me, even when you're scum.

 

This game, that isn't even close to being the case.

 

Your recap posts aren't giving me much perspective into your actual thoughts, and I find myself disagreeing with a CRAP ton of em. Seriously, you continuously agree or side with someone who was just excessively scummy in that particular post. I could forgive a few examples of this sort of thing, but literally your catchup posts are littered with examples of you taking the exact opposite side I'd expect town!BFG to take here.

 

Not only that, but your partner Pray has been sniping from the sidelines all game.

 

Tell me why you shouldn't be the lynch today.

 

Agree on the BFG scum angle.  She's not appearing as a laser-focused scumhunter who analyzes the intent behind posts.  She seems like she's mailing the scumhunting in a bit.

 

  On 4/2/2014 at 5:14 PM, Verbal32 said:

 

  On 4/2/2014 at 3:23 PM, Despothera said:

 

  On 4/2/2014 at 3:14 PM, corycurren said:

Thing that really locks me clear on Clarthe is his reaction to the Jack/Amega exchange that was somehow genuine.

 

Clarthe points how fake it is on both sides - which it seemed to almost everyone ATM - and uses that to try and bury SH rather than to try and make a case on ES, which would have had credence. With both flips known... This is sorta a big deal :D

 

Killing ES was a major mistake by the Maf, which makes me wonder of the killer got redirected or something of that nature. ES would have been a major distraction today and probably a mislynch, and bodyguards aren't super PRs the way doctors are.

 

Mafia didn't NK ES

 

Pretty much confirmed that they didn't incidentally, since ES flipped as a powered BG of some kind. Had mafia targeted them with the NK, most likely they would have died along with them.

 

ES prob just wisely chose who mafia was gonna NK. I'm thinking they went for WiFuM imo. Notice how J-TAG didn't really put out any posts mentioning or responding to Ithi or Turin? They prob thought they were gonna be dead soon.

 

Pretty sure they didn't try targeting us

 

But yeah, Clarthe is close to (or wait mebbe already is on mah list ) LOCK CLEAR

 

 

Yep, pretty sure this clears WiFum, at least for me.  Them flipping town would have put a ton of pressure on us from multiple hydra teams.

 

  On 4/2/2014 at 2:48 PM, Despothera said:

 

  On 4/2/2014 at 2:46 PM, Verbal32 said:

hmmm

 

 

 

 

[Pralaya]

  On 4/3/2014 at 7:49 AM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

Ok so before my course starts this morning going to post a quick reads list that Despo is going to moan about. Here we go:

 

WiFuM (Ithi, Turin) - Town read. Pretty solid one. I like Turin's posts a lot and his approach to analyzing the posts of others. He's rational and his reasoning is sound.

YoloHashSwag (Despo, Verbal) - Desporrhea and Verbal. I think only Despo understands Despo sometimes and even then I'm not so sure. Verbal seems a bit more cautious this game than usual in that he isn't tunneling as much. Unfortunately I think they are town. Oh well. Despo unfortunately gets out of/doesn't care about inconsistencies between WoTs though but not really a scum tell for him. Problem is he won't post much differently as town or scum IMO.

J-TAG (AJ, TG) - J-TAG have been getting a ton of heat but I think they have handled it with a fair amount of poise and composure, despite what others may think. I think their responses have been good and keeping a pretty cool head about things has looked good in their favor. That being said not sure what to make of them not voting Day 1. Leaning town.

PFG (Pralaya, BFG) - This is where I think the scum is hiding. BFG's play seemed markedly different from a recent game and Pral is trying to save a sinking ship I think. Don't like how they looked on the lynch yesterday at all. Scummy.

Release the Leno (RTE, Lenlo) - LOCK-CLEAR (Christ, did I just say that?)

Sexy Sisters (Tina, Leelou) - Scum read. These two are either having their worst town game ever or are scum. I'm going for the latter.

CRUNK (Tom, CoryCurren) - Pretty sure Cory is in this game to make it unbearable for everyone else. All things aside when you sift through the showboating and general loud-mouthing he plays a sound game. Tom coming in is going to blow this game apart between these two and Despo. But town read right now.

Spliffanity (Krak, Dap) - Dap is MIA which makes me sad. Krak is cool in my books though. Town read on spliffies.

Clarthe (Cloud, Darthe) - Honestly null read. Darthe is playing a bit safer than usual I think and I would certainly say the same for Cloud who hasn't shot himself in the foot in a while.

HaXorz (Hally, Xthrax) - If there is one last scum it's here. Hallia is playing her usual game but not falling for it here. Something is off, I suppose it's more gut than anything else but I'm going with a scum lean. Would like to hear more though.

 

So, pretty colored list time:

 

RTL

WiFum

Spliffanity

 

CRUNK

#YOLO

J-TAG

 

PFG

SexySisters

HaXorz

Clarthe

 

## Vote PFG

 

Is this where I kiss Despo's ass now so he doesn't call my post scummy?

You are wrong, RTE. All you are talking about are meta reads, which I cannot defend or respond. I cannot talk for BFG either.

 

I feel that you are ignoring some of the actual happenings on the game and not even trying to look at the arguments. Why do you think I looked bad in the lynch? I accepted that my read on Than was wrong, and I was actually on the scum where many other teams did not even switch before the deadline. What is your opinion on that?

[hazelkrs1]

Alright here's what I wanted to point out real quick before moving on to other stuff:

 

  On 3/31/2014 at 12:22 AM, Andrej said:

Confrontational Darthe is confrontational.

 

Still down for those dak pics? lol

 

I have a question for you Darthe. Could you explain your linking scenario a little more for me? You're voting Straw Hats, I believe... but also putting down RTE's reads post as a psy-scum tell.

 

Therefore you think Straw Hats is scum as well as RTL.

 

RTL is now voting Straw Hats.

 

Does this disrupt your scenario in any way?

 

How does me pointing out your statement towards RTE make me scum with Straw Hats (if they are scum) and RTL more likely to be town?

 

So here's where AJ first soft defends SH by pointing out that Darthe is voting alongside RTL, another scum read of his.

 

Now, AJ makes this point on D1, a horrible time to be pointing something like this out. Darthe responded accordingly, and basically said he knew he could be wrong on reads, especially early in the game, so he tends not to weigh associative tells too heavily. Perfect answer, as this is the mindset any solid scumhunter should have in the early goings of a game.

 

  On 3/30/2014 at 6:20 PM, Andrej said:

Didn't find Pral's entrance very moving either. Scum lean in that direction.

 

This was AJ's first mentioning of Pray- says he has a scumlean.

 

  On 3/31/2014 at 12:36 AM, Andrej said:

Pral's game entrance gave me bad juju as well but I like how he is pushing the SS girls. He is usually an outlier when it comes to voting as town I have noticed, so I retract the early scum read. Would like to see more from BFG though, if she is town it will soon be apparent.

 

And this is AJ's very next mention of Pray... notice how he clears him for really bad reasoning?

 

Again, early on associative tells are weak. So him also suspecting the same people you do should NEVER clear him on D1. The "outlier as town with voting" thing is just bad. There's nothing you can do to convince me you would go from scumlean to town for that kind of reasoning.

 

Something else to note is how AJ likes Pray for pushing the SS girls...

 

  On 3/31/2014 at 12:52 AM, Andrej said:

 

  On 3/30/2014 at 11:20 PM, Turin Turambar said:

partially answered before. I would still like to hear if you both think that Lenlo's reasoning is sound. Do you follow what he is basing his reads on. Or if you would do you think he is genuine on his beliefs or is he trying to sell something.

 

Lily currently has mafia reads on the following:

RTLenlo

Haxorz

WiFuM

Straw Hats 

 

Do you agree with those? I assume that you do agree with RTL and most likely HaXorz, how about WiFuM and Straw Hats?

 

Lily is voting a scumread along with her other scumread.

 

Curious.

 

Evil Sibs can slide to leaning scum.

 

Yet 20 mins later, AJ says Evil Sibs can slide to leaning scum.

 

Meaning he didn't have her as scum before this.

 

Meaning he thought Pray could be town for pushing against the SS girls even tho he didn't have them as a scumread yet.

 

Yeahhhhhh..... this is a wolfclaim yall. Guess AJ had already mentioned in the QT to go after the SS girls but forgot that he hadn't done so in thread yet. LAWLZ.

 

 

Anyways, back to my real point.

AJ slides SS to scum because he says they're voting along with a scumread of theirs... on D1, when townie's reads are most likely to jump back and forth a lot. Again, this is piss poor thinking for any scumhunter worth their salt. AJ isn't this bad.

 

  On 3/31/2014 at 4:19 AM, Andrej said:

 

  On 3/31/2014 at 2:47 AM, Turin Turambar said:

So you see how the Straw Hats are getting voted? Do you find it odd that AJ is working so hard to defend and stop their lynch?  At least that is how it looks to me.

 

You don't find how they're getting voted to be odd?

 

  On 3/31/2014 at 2:57 AM, amegakure said:

yep yep aj must be mafia.. who would want to stop a towny from being lynched... like omg guys

 

A good townsman who would rather lynch mafia

 

After catching up I find it oddly amusing that Amega and the new guy are the leading wagon on D1. I don't think we're paying enough attention to who is voting who and why.

 

AJ stresses again that he finds the voting patterns odd, makes it seem like more people should be seeing that Straw Hats aren't scum because everyone is voting along with their scumreads on D1.

 

Dude seems to have a complex about it lol

 

 

Now, I could have quoted like 8-9 other examples of AJ either hard or soft defending Straw Hats to help supplement this, but yeah honestly everyone needs to go back and read AJ's iso. Then come back and tell me what you think about how AJ defended SH, and if it seemed like he had good reasons too, or was instead overly concerned with helping a teammate stay alive.

 

So SH gets lynched, flips scum. AJ's next post?

 

  On 4/2/2014 at 4:00 PM, Andrej said:

##vote PFG

 

 

  On 4/1/2014 at 9:12 PM, corycurren said:

 

  On 3/28/2014 at 8:04 PM, Thane Vakarian said:

comes with the Hydra i guess, people always tend to disagree at one point. But this early? Makes me think they really are sisters (i have 3 daughters, and they're not always nice to eachother  )

 

Lee/Tina snip at eachother early, and Thane soft-defends the two saying it's believable in an indirect way, which plays very well to the narrative Lee/Tina are trying to present. This should not be ignored, especially considering the Sexy Sisters crew got early heat and escaped unscathed and are now keeping an extremely low profile.

 

  On 3/29/2014 at 8:17 PM, Pralaya said:

So, the three top trains are two teams who are usually the most vocal in mafias and one team which consists of a newbie. I also see a lot of opportunistic voting that pushes these train without reason. I understand the case against Amega/Thane but the votes on Ithi/Turin and Verb/Des are quite suspect.

 

 Ithi/Turin and Verb/Des vote each other. Expected, based on the to and fro between them.

 

And, then there are 

 

 

  On 3/28/2014 at 10:05 PM, Andrej said:

##vote Verbothera

 

  On 3/29/2014 at 4:00 PM, Leelou said:

##Vote WiFuM

 

  On 3/29/2014 at 4:59 PM, corycurren said:

##Vote WiFum

#AllianceHashSwag

 

Three votes with no reason, no talk about the to-and-fro between the two teams. 

 

Leelou/Tina's vote especially stands out after the joke strife between them, which looked like a good way to mask the intent and pushed the train on Des' team under the pretext of joke strife. The change of vote to Turin's team did not  have any reason either.

 

Evil Sisters, Crunk and J-Tag are the biggest suspects for me.

 

##vote Evil Sisters

 

As WiFuM begin to build the case against Straw Hats, Pral ignores the SH case entirely and tries to focus negative attention elsewhere. Potential train derail here.

 

  On 3/30/2014 at 4:34 PM, Thane Vakarian said:

Personal thoughts so far:

 

WiFuM (Ithi, Turin) and YoloHashSwag (Despo, Verbal): had the feeling something was going on between the two of them. Their little struggle ceased (for the moment) and now there's interaction between WiFum and Evil Siblings. Most active hydra around, questioning, probing, getting information.

 

YoloHashSwag (Despo, Verbal) expect to see more when the weekend is done. Interesting posts to read.

J-TAG (AJ, TG): not enough to form an opinion, null read.

PFG (Pralaya, BFG): Not a huge amount of posts, but the ones i read seem to be well thought of.

Release the Leno (RTE, Lenlo) lots of fun and games, but i'd like to have some real input for once. Backing Amega in the vote against them

Sexy Sisters (Tina, Leelou) Uncommented votes, absence? Not feeling too great about them. Waiting for a train to pass and jump on?

CRUNK (Monk, CoryCurren) not around, and if, then unserious posting, lurking in the shadows? Didn't have a good explanation from them on their vote. Might as well be waiting on the same train.

Spliffanity (Krak, Dap) not around enough to form an opinion, null read

Clarthe (Cloud, Darthe) Little drama in the beginning of the game, then things calmed down. Maybe also because of the weekend.

Evil Siblings (Lily, Jack) Had a little thing going on between them and myself. Gett he feeling it was more probing and questioning than anything else. Questioning, after all, is good.

 

Straw Hats (Amega, Thane) I'm not going to comment on my own hydra. Yes, you are. NO, i'm NOT! *drowns inner voices in belgian beer*

HaXorz (Hally, Xthrax) going for an easy lynch when voting against us i think.

 

Bolds feel very off to me, italics is more townspew.

 

Major suspect list ATM: ES, PFG, Sisters, RTL

 

These 3 posts are probably some of the best of the game. I'll need to go back and grab a few more quotes, but if you look at the reads list Amega and Thane wrote up separately it should be evident that my team is town. We were listed all null early on by Thane, but once I came in to defend him I was suddenly a solid town read. Later Amega makes his "yes, must be scum because who tries to stop a town lynch omg" comment around the same actions lol.

 

Turns out I was wrong about Thane, just like how a lot of you (including myself) were wrong about Jack. It happens. Yes I defended and questioned a wagon on confscum but it is what it is. I explained myself at the time, attempted to make my thought process transparent, and looked for other avenues. Somebody mentioned earlier (Turin maybe?) that I ended D1 without a vote. This isn't true. My vote was placed on Evil Sibs, or should have been anyway, so if it wasn't counted then that isn't my fault.

 

My reads have been pretty off this game for the most part, I think. I've been sort of detached and busy so it's been hard for me to keep up, and having to read through the game instead of playing it real time makes my brain process less organic But anyway, here's what I've got:

 

Town to Scum:

CRUNK

WiFuM

Spliff

Clarthe

HaXorz

Yolo

RTL

SS

PFG

 

I think if we lynch from the bottom up we will do well. Top 3 are all but conf-town IMO. Pral (of PFG's) opener didn't really sit well with me but I felt like he was making well Constructed arguments early on which gave me a town lean On him. Also of note, as Pointed out above, he did avoid the SH wagon and was on the last to join it (pot-meet-kettle, right?). SS girls continue to move up and down the spectrum for me. Sometimes I think they look pretty town, other times I think they look pretty scummy. Leelou gives me a rather bloodthirsty vibe in her more recent posts where she says Evil Sibs would've been today's lynch and then very happily joined the J-TAG wagon. TG and I are Called-Out-Promptly for my interaction around the StrawHats wagon which I can understand and accept, but our lynch won't achieve much good for Town.

 

For now I think PFG is the best wagon. As far as who that 3rd slot would be I'm still pretty unsure.

 

So he votes PFG. Okay...

 

Thing is he doesn't actually point out anything himself about why PFG is scum. He instead quotes ONE post by Cory and says it's the THREE best posts of the game... but doesn't comment on what Cory pointed out about PFG ignoring the Straw Hats situation entirely when they tried voting SS. He instead tries saying his team is LOCK CLEAR because of Thane and Amega's null to town reads on them....

 

Which is some of the biggest BS I have EVER seen AJ push btw. LAWLZ.

 

When he actually DOES get to commenting on PFG, he actually ends up defending them more than listing why he is voting them. Like seriously, WTF?!?!?!?! How are yall not pointing this out before I get the chance to?

 

 

So okay he has PFG as his highest scumread even tho he doesn't say why they're likely scum, and also defends them a bit while doing so. Wow...

 

  On 4/2/2014 at 6:32 PM, Pralaya said:

##vote YoloHashSwag 

 

Because of my reasoning above

 

Pray comes out and exposes himself more with his case on me, saying we're going for an easy lynch when anyone reading the thread would have seen Verbal and I were interested in lynching Evil Sibs next, along with J-TAG after that.

 

  On 4/2/2014 at 6:54 PM, Pralaya said:

 

  On 4/2/2014 at 6:51 PM, _CLOUD said:

So you have a town read on AJ?

 

No, looking like scum, as I mentioned in my post. Not as strong feeling as I have on verb/des, based on their nudging and setting up.

 

 

Pray adds that he has AJ as scum.

 

TG comes in and tries supporting Pray's terribad case with some ultra-selective quoting here and there (I'll rip that garbage up momentarily), and votes YOLO.

 

AJ comes in and instead of having a problem with his teammate voting along with a scumread of theirs WHICH IS APPARENTLY THE MOST CARDINAL SIN YOU CAN COMMIT THIS GAME ACCORDING TO AJ, AJ instead follows along with some terribad reasoning on why PFG is clear and then tries twisting around to "thinking" that we could be scum instead.

 

I mean seriously people... how if this stuff not obvious to you?

 

 

  On 4/3/2014 at 12:37 AM, Andrej said:

 

  On 4/3/2014 at 12:06 AM, TGlems said:

I'll let AJ answer more about SS, but we've chatted about everyone so far. 

 

As for PFG, we have different reads and have all game.  AJ find Pral scumtastic, I don't.  After point out to AJ that Pral secured the lynch on SH though, he changed his read on PFG to fit mine.

 

Pretty much this.

 

 

Yeah we'll get to this LAWLZ. Worst attempt to "clear" a scummy teammate EVAH.

 

  On 4/3/2014 at 3:15 AM, Andrej said:

I would also suggest that you guys ISO her and read the spoilered WoTs. Her thoughts come across to me as very organic and she spots many things that are the topic of discussion now.

 

Sorry I doubted you earlier Pral

 

Bahahahahahaha so FUNNY!!!!!!

 

 

You've been eager to clear PFG ever since first fos'ing Pray for a bad opening post. Literally anything that comes along that can be construed to make them look townie you've bought hook, line, and stinker.

 

[hazelkrs1]

Two more quick things I guess I'll address in a post of their own:

 

Regarding me saying "Save SH who is basically confirmed scum for later, lets look elsewhere for now): How anyone could not see this as protown is beyond me. I'm not concerned with finding one scum, I'd rather find them all. When I said what I said, we still had two days left. I wanted town to continue having a productive day as far as gathering evidence, reactions, and connections with others, instead of just letting SH be the de facto lynch and letting scum slip busvotes in easily. I still expected SH to be the lynch, I just wanted town to have the chance to get more accomplished with the time we had left. Unfortunately, I did get busy one of those days as the Champion's game was wrapping up, but that doesn't change the fact that my intent was for town to have as productive a D1 as it could. I've said it many times, strong D1's are a HUGE deal in helping town secure a win.

 

AJ has tried comparing it to when he tried saving a teammate as scum after a cop outed them. The two situations aren't even close to comparable. The chances of getting any kind of good discussion going after a cop reveals a guilty reading are nil to less than nil. We've all seen it, many times. Cop claims guilty, people follow the cop. Occasionally you'll see CC's, or Miller claims or something, but again, you'll rarely see actual good discussion going on anything else. Everyone just wants to see the flip. What AJ did that game was wolfy as hell. What I did was protown.

 

---

 

Regarding TG's point about PFG being clear because of their vote: Let's look at Pray's votes that day.

 

 

  On 3/29/2014 at 8:17 PM, Pralaya said:

So, the three top trains are two teams who are usually the most vocal in mafias and one team which consists of a newbie. I also see a lot of opportunistic voting that pushes these train without reason. I understand the case against Amega/Thane but the votes on Ithi/Turin and Verb/Des are quite suspect.

 

 Ithi/Turin and Verb/Des vote each other. Expected, based on the to and fro between them.

 

 

And, then there are 

 

(AJ, Cory, and Leelou's votes edited out)

 

Three votes with no reason, no talk about the to-and-fro between the two teams. 

 

Leelou/Tina's vote especially stands out after the joke strife between them, which looked like a good way to mask the intent and pushed the train on Des' team under the pretext of joke strife. The change of vote to Turin's team did not  have any reason either.

 

Evil Sisters, Crunk and J-Tag are the biggest suspects for me.

 

vote Evil Sisters

 

Here he votes Evil Sibs, even tho Evil Sibs was actually Lily/Jack, not Leelou/Tina who he was fosing here. He apparently later changed it or something, asked Csarmi why he didn't accept his vote change... leading me to suspect that he might have changed his vote in pm or QT or something.

 

Anyways, the emphasized is the only commentary he gave on the biggest issue up to that point- Thane and Amega. He briefly says he sees the case against Thane/Amega but doesnt specifically say whether or not he agrees with it. He does bring up that it has a newbie in it however, apparently trying to appeal to town's guilt to not vote a newb (remember in the wot I did that showed how much Thane was playing up his n00bness?)

 

He doesn't push this read very hard... coasts for a bit, then posts his next vote:

 

  On 4/1/2014 at 3:42 PM, Pralaya said:

 

  On 4/1/2014 at 2:21 PM, Turin Turambar said:

Verb, you think PFG is bussing us? If we are both mafia that would have to be the case.

It is a bit odd that pral has voted us when bfg had us as townish at last check IIRC.

If no one else wants to lynch straw hats today, how about crunk? It would save Cory from having to deal with us scrubs. And we gat rid of a Mafioso.

 

Yep, she thinks you are town. 

 

Anyway, there is no other alternative today. Let's get this done with.

 

vote straw hats

 

So TG and AJ are trying to get town believe that this vote somehow clears PFG as town. HA!

TG says that the train had stalled and AJ says that scum didn't have to worry about a random lynch and SH was a Power Role, therefore his teammates def wouldn't have bussed him!

 

 

Problem is, the train had stalled somewhat but that's because it was still coming off of DM Mafia Weekend and voting in general had stalled, not just SH's train. And IN THE POST PRAY QUOTES, Turin is pointing out how the train has stalled. TG didn't even quote this post incidentally, probably knowing that it would be harder to sell the BS he tries to sell. Because if people are talking about the train stalling, and someone even quotes someone saying so, it KINDA removes the possibility of giving them towncred for their vote.

 

Not only that, but Pray doesn't even comment on SH's claim, which is a HUGE deal, or whether or not he even believes that they are scum or not, which is an even BIGGER deal.

 

Basically there's one correct way to view this vote, and one wolfy way. The wolfy way would be to try and make it seem like the SH lynch wouldn't have happened without Pray's vote, making him look instrumental in lynching a scummie. The correct way to view it is that Pray was trying to derail the SH lynch by barely talking about SH and trying to lynch SS (even tho he voted for ES) and that he reluctantly decided to bus a teammate when it looked like no other lynch was happening. Pray outs himself with his tone in this post.

 

An important vote on a lynch going down to the wire and you don't comment on the lynch target's claim or whether or not they seem like scum? Yeahhhhhh that's a wolfclaim folks.

 

[hazelkrs1]

Times like these are when I wish I could be more concise. A lot more I want to point out/respond to but I have to get my game going first (almost forgot about it! )

 

Doubt I'll get it up in time to come back here and post anything, if I don't tho I'll try to do so later on today at home.

[ReleaseTheEvil]

  On 4/3/2014 at 9:58 AM, Despothera said:

Times like these are when I wish I could be more concise. A lot more I want to point out/respond to but I have to get my game going first (almost forgot about it! )

 

Doubt I'll get it up in time to come back here and post anything, if I don't tho I'll try to do so later on today at home.

Honestly Despo I sincerely wish you did too. There's a lot of good content in your post but ESPECIALLY on mobile it is a ton of work to find it, especially discerning what it is you quoted and what you actually have written. Then by the time I get to a PC or come back to read the last WoT there is a new one.

[Pralaya]

  On 4/3/2014 at 9:54 AM, Despothera said:

Regarding me saying "Save SH who is basically confirmed scum for later, lets look elsewhere for now): How anyone could not see this as protown is beyond me. I'm not concerned with finding one scum, I'd rather find them all. When I said what I said, we still had two days left. I wanted town to continue having a productive day as far as gathering evidence, reactions, and connections with others, instead of just letting SH be the de facto lynch and letting scum slip busvotes in easily. I still expected SH to be the lynch, I just wanted town to have the chance to get more accomplished with the time we had left. Unfortunately, I did get busy one of those days as the Champion's game was wrapping up, but that doesn't change the fact that my intent was for town to have as productive a D1 as it could. I've said it many times, strong D1's are a HUGE deal in helping town secure a win.

How is that protown? You can say that you saved SH in order to hunt more scum. In other's perspective,  it looks more like you prolonged his lynch in order for the town to mislynch someone else or not lynch them at all. It makes sense in hindsight because of how important a rolethat StrawHats had. It would make all sense for scum to prolong or prevent his lynch and your sentence echoes the same thing.

 

In fact that is exactly what happened. SH train had stalled and a new train on ES was being built. Guess who were on the new train?

 

And, you can give excuses about not being present to switch the votes to lynch SH when it actually mattered. Fine, you were busy. But, Verbal was present. He posted minutes online before the lynch. And, yet he was reluctant to switch the vote. Only Jack was online at the time and it looked like Verbal wanted to day to go to a no-lynch.

 

Nothing protown about it.

 

  On 4/3/2014 at 9:54 AM, Despothera said:

Here he votes Evil Sibs, even tho Evil Sibs was actually Lily/Jack, not Leelou/Tina who he was fosing here. He apparently later changed it or something, asked Csarmi why he didn't accept his vote change... leading me to suspect that he might have changed his vote in pm or QT or something.

Is that all you have? You seem to be reaching now if you are thinking to case me based on a typo. I never mentioned Jack or Lily in the entire post. The case was clearly on leelou/Tina and it is obvious to anyone who read. I got the team name wrong as it was early in the day but it was clear to anybody that I was referring to Leelou/Tin, even to the mod.

 

  On 4/3/2014 at 9:54 AM, Despothera said:

Anyways, the emphasized is the only commentary he gave on the biggest issue up to that point- Thane and Amega. He briefly says he sees the case against Thane/Amega but doesnt specifically say whether or not he agrees with it. He does bring up that it has a newbie in it however, apparently trying to appeal to town's guilt to not vote a newb (remember in the wot I did that showed how much Thane was playing up his n00bness?)

Another misrepping. Totally wrong.

 

I did not briefly talk about SH. I  directly answered a question Turin asked about whether SH is mafia or not. This was the same set up that Verbal was also trying yesterday, which I pointed out in my case.

 

Here is the post

 

 

  On 4/3/2014 at 9:54 AM, Despothera said:

So TG and AJ are trying to get town believe that this vote somehow clears PFG as town. HA!

 

TG says that the train had stalled and AJ says that scum didn't have to worry about a random lynch and SH was a Power Role, therefore his teammates def wouldn't have bussed him!

The problem with you is that you or your case is that you are trying to dodge the fact that you did not vote for the scum and instead trying to project the fact that the late vote on them is a bus. Clearly, you are trying to lose the focus on the former and lay the blame on someone who was trying to get the lynch done than letting the scum take the advantage. Anyone who thinks logically would see that your team failed to vote even when there was an opportunity to do so.

 

On top of that you are trying to misrepresent that I did not comment on Sh. This is factually wrong and I had already talked about SH and why I felt they were town. That was a slip in your case.

 

And, on top of that, are trying to say that I was derailing by voting on a outlier who I thought was scum? Especially, when there was another equally probable train going on, which incidentally was started by your team? You are overreaching now

[Pralaya]

  On 4/1/2014 at 3:33 PM, Turin Turambar said:

 

  On 4/1/2014 at 11:08 AM, csarmi said:

Vote Count - 1.14

 

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

 

Straw Hats (5) - Clarthe, HaXorz, WIFUM, SexySisters, RTL

Sexy Sisters (1) - Strawhats

Evil Siblings (3) - YoloHashSwag, Spliffanity, CRUNK

CRUNK (1) - Evil Siblings

WiFuM (1) - PFG

not voting : JTAG

 

Deadline: Deadline-D1

 

A little less than 6 hours to go.

Is this still correct?

 

AJ, TG, where you at?

 

 

This was the situation an hour before the deadline. Des, are you seriously trying to make the case on me that i was distracting the SH lynch? Apparently, JTAG was also voting Evil Siblings making it  5-4. 

[Tommyrod]

 

The best chance the mafia has now is to kill me before I can catch up.

 

It's like Speed, and I'm the bus. And Keanu. And the chick. And you're all helpless elderly jabronis.

 

Okay, scramble!

[Turin Turambar]

Despo. LMAO at you. "Ignore the townie and his vote on me. I was trying to catch all the mafias. Nvm my partner was happy to keep his vote on a now confirmed townie."

 

Oh BTW, you got confused in your AJ case. You mixed up the SS and the ES also.

[Cory Caboose]

CorTom activated.

 

Achievement unlocked.

 

Pray, if ye be men of God

[Turin Turambar]

Welcome Tommy.

[Cory Caboose]

Hide yo kids

 

Hide yo wife

 

[Tyler Glembo]

  On 4/3/2014 at 11:48 AM, Tommyrod said:

The best chance the mafia has now is to kill me before I can catch up.

 

It's like Speed, and I'm the bus. And Keanu. And the chick. And you're all helpless elderly jabronis.

 

Okay, scramble!

 

Welcome to the madhouse.