[Advanced] Star Wars Thrawn Mafia, Heir To The Empire, Town and 3rd party win

[Tommyrod]

I'm off to bed, but you've piqued my curiosity Turin: why is Tina your strongest town read? I find that hard to believe. A bit mind-boggling, even.

 

Feel free to answer while I'm asleep.

[Hallia]

I would tend to save my work on a word document and finish catching up before posting it, because so much can change in the remaining what, 30+ pages that were left?  And Tommy makes a good point, why?

[Turin Turambar]

There was a specific post TG wrote about Des that I'd have to go digging to find, I remember seeing it and thinking "this would probably spew him clear" 

I just went thru TG's posts and didn't find anything that would clear Despo should TG flip mafia. I also didn't see much in there to justify his being lynched today. Out of all of it the main pings to me were his town read on AJ(now Hallia) and his continued push against Tina who I have as very much town. 

 

I'm off to bed, but you've piqued my curiosity Turin: why is Tina your strongest town read? I find that hard to believe. A bit mind-boggling, even.

 

Feel free to answer while I'm asleep.

I read the thread? co mon mon you are Top Tier Tommy. You must already know why. 

 

 

Hallia. I know I don't save anything to any other documents or generally even take notes anymore so I can see that it is possible that Tina didn't either. 

 

What did you think of Despo wanting to squash any discussion of Peace's posts? To me it was an attempt to sweep it under the rug. basically trying to jedi mind trick everyone. "these are not the posts your looking for" IMO once you get a flip on anyone, especially a non-town person it is worth looking at what they were saying. The fact that Peace was a survivor to me means that he would be actually trying to find mafia as in general the easier way for survivors to win is with town. We also know that he had at least one partner so there is some value in looking for who his partner would be as we need to get rid of the survivors too. 

 

For me his stance on the peace situation is one of the more damning things he has done today. The push on Tina is another. The bad case yesterday on Csarmi(now Luci) is another. I think he has buddied Tommy excessively(also wondering why Tommy puts up with it but maybe as long as he gets Despo to what he wants it is all good to him)

[Hallia]

That's one reason I was hesitant about Des, especially because of Peace's interaction with him.  But for the moment, that just kinda makes me lean that he could be his partner, and I'm not as worried about survivors as I am finding scummy mcscummersons.

[Turin Turambar]

But just because he is mentioned doesn't make him automatically only a possible survivor. He could just as well be mafia that was unfortunately interacting with Peace and just would be caught in the crossfire as it were.

 

I actually don't see Despo as the survivor. I am currently leaning Cory for the survivor With Despo and Golden(Dice) mafia. I am thinking there would be one more mafia but the candidates there are muddled. 

 

 

Can we just lynch Despo and get a mafia? or if you are right the other survivor? We really do need to eliminate the survivors also. 

[hazelkrs1]

Dice is replacing GE. Luci is replacing Salami.

 

 

Bleurgh. At least Hallia replaced in and is doing #work. Krak sure as hell aint. Hopefully these peeps do.

 

 

Lynch TG[b/]

Explain. You haven't said anything on him all game if I'm not mistaken, why the sudden vote? Why over Tina?

 

I too thought this move was strange. Don't remember Monk ever really fos'ing anyone besides Tina tbh.

 

 

TG and Tina are both scum, I don't have a preference as to which goes down first

 

Krak's joke vote isn't that surprising to me considering I think he actually dislikes me (I do play here sometimes) but he hasn't really done anything in this game that I remember, and neither did Darthe

 

I thought Pral was town last time I saw him post

 

Turin could be scum but I haven't looked into it yet, Despot thinks he is 

 

Pretty much all of this information is in my posts from today 

I still think Tina is town, I think TG is 100% scum.

Krak hating you doesn't help, it's a joke vote and joke vote's are basically Scum Tactic #1 for dummies.

Krak nor Darthe did anything but agree Nolder was totes scumzors. 

Alright

I'll have to discuss it with Despot whenever he gets back then.

 

What about Tina makes you think she's town?

 

I think if TG flips scum today it spews Despot clear, which is a bonus.

 

Not for me it aint

#getthattargetoffmyback

 

Updated reads:

 

1. Des - UPDATE: Still liking your throught processes and casing.  And yes I am teh improved Hallz!

 

10. Turin - UPDATE:  I did think Csarmageddon was town(Welcome to the game Luci! ).  It was more in the way he did it and his current play that made me feel better about him.  As I stated before it was the way Tina went about saying he as town.  When I see the Tommy and crew say things like 'LOCK CLEAR' I take that with a grain of salt because I've never played with them before, whereas I have with Tina.  And I said yes, claims shouldn't clear anyone, but it can make you think twice if it sounds plausible.  It's not a 100% thing either way, and never should be.

 

9. TG - Mentioned something about Csarmi's spam but not anyone else's.  Why just him? UPDATE:  This was my previous read on him, I don't believe he ever addressed it.  I feel like he was focusing solely on Csarmi hoping for an easy lynch perhaps?  Because as most people know, Csarmageddon has a penchant for being lynched super duper early pretty darned often.  And then TG responded to heat with:

*grabs popcorn*

Which makes me sad, because that isn't the type of response I hope you would have when being questioned.  I do see you went back later and responded to Des's WoT.

 

5. Tina - UPDATE: You did a reread and kept the old names for people being replaced, and made no mention of new content.  What did you think of my opinion on you?  Still not pleased  v - See Below

I´ve read up until page 32. Will continue tomorrow morning. Will comment on what I have until this point and then go back to defend myself from those who voted me. 

 

Darthe: didn´t say much. Voted Kronos because Kronos voted me because I said Cs was obviously town. Not much more to say about him so far.

 

AJ: Voted X without reading the whole thread although the deadline wasn´t close. Seems like a strange move if scum. I don´t know. 

 

 

 

I'm happy with Tina or TG to be honest.

 

Vote Tina

 

Hallia up there on Turin, were you actually talking about Tina for a sec? I don't understand the connection from what you were talking about to Turin.

 

 

Monk it would be nice if you at least gave your reasoning 

I voted for him, and then 3 townies did right after me so I will "follow" even though I started it. 

 

Straight scum, here.

 

Even if TG does look mega scummy, him flipping scum wouldn't really clear you as your vote looks alot like a bus vote (no reasoning given, never really fos'd TG all game from my memory).

 

 

Go ahead and make a case for why you think Tina is town.

 

does it not suffice that Tina is as LOCK CLEAR as can be at this point IMO.

 

Basically anyone still on the Tina train is:

A.) Not reading effectively

B.) Not town pushing an agenda.

 

Thanks Basel

 

This is crap crap crap Turin. You don't have enough clout to go about saying someone is lock clear town without explaining why. Even Tommy and Cory would give explanation for when they used it, even if it was OP analysis or something somewhat unreliable.

 

And I thought you were an old dog that was resistant to new tricks? Sure got used to the fad pretty quick I see

 

Re Des: Bleurgh. 

 

Re Me: or response to questioning. you take someone saying that someone else is CLEAR which to me means not even a lynch candidate with a grain of salt, but question that someone for saying that a different player that you have a town read on is questionable for saying that player is town. Must disagree with you there. 

 

RE TG: It looks to me that your reasoning to vote TG is stronger than that to vote Tina. That he was pushing an "easy lynch" which Tina was opposed to. So you think their differing viewpoints of the situation is distancing? You also mention that you think he didn't answer your question and delayed in answering Despo's case against him. 

 

RE Tina: Tina is currently my strongest town read. I would be knock me over with a feather surprised if she flips other than town. I think that you should reconsider that vote.

 

Also bolded. She states that she only really read to page 32. I don't think any of the replacements had happened yet. (except for X perhaps) I thin the AJ vote without reading the thread when there was no real rush due to a pending deadline was the biggest thing that has largely gone without much talk.

 

What would you think of someone else that did that? . 

 

I think this is one of the scummiest games I may have ever seen from Turin. Honestly.

 

He's recently switched from soft defending her to hardcore defending her, and she seems to have no problem with him white knighting it. And he says Hallia should vote TG over Tina, based on TG's interaction with me.... even tho Turin has me as his top scumread.

 

Fail.

 

Not to mention Turin is ducking all of the arguments I'm bringing against him.

 

 

There was a specific post TG wrote about Des that I'd have to go digging to find, I remember seeing it and thinking "this would probably spew him clear" 

I just went thru TG's posts and didn't find anything that would clear Despo should TG flip mafia. I also didn't see much in there to justify his being lynched today. Out of all of it the main pings to me were his town read on AJ(now Hallia) and his continued push against Tina who I have as very much town. 

 

I'm off to bed, but you've piqued my curiosity Turin: why is Tina your strongest town read? I find that hard to believe. A bit mind-boggling, even.

 

Feel free to answer while I'm asleep.

I read the thread? co mon mon you are Top Tier Tommy. You must already know why. 

 

Hallia. I know I don't save anything to any other documents or generally even take notes anymore so I can see that it is possible that Tina didn't either. 

 

What did you think of Despo wanting to squash any discussion of Peace's posts? To me it was an attempt to sweep it under the rug. basically trying to jedi mind trick everyone. "these are not the posts your looking for" IMO once you get a flip on anyone, especially a non-town person it is worth looking at what they were saying. The fact that Peace was a survivor to me means that he would be actually trying to find mafia as in general the easier way for survivors to win is with town. We also know that he had at least one partner so there is some value in looking for who his partner would be as we need to get rid of the survivors too. 

 

For me his stance on the peace situation is one of the more damning things he has done today. The push on Tina is another. The bad case yesterday on Csarmi(now Luci) is another. I think he has buddied Tommy excessively(also wondering why Tommy puts up with it but maybe as long as he gets Despo to what he wants it is all good to him)

 

Soft defense of TG, moar hardcore defense of Tina even tho he flat out refuses to give any reasoning why he has Tina as so solid town.

 

Bolded: It's worth looking at what anyone says, but fact is third party mason is pretty innocuous towards town. Peace almost assuredly didn't have any nefarious motives with his posts, but that doesn't mean he was overly concerned with trying to catch scum. And even if you can determine that someone's reads or cases are genuine, it doesn't mean they were right. Did you go back through and comb through Nolder's posts when he flipped town to see who he thought was mafia? No, cause he played a generally bad game and his reads, even if genuine, really shouldn't be relied upon.

 

More importantly you're more fascinated with Peace's flip cause your team didn't expect it when they sent the kill in, and now the scum team has the most to benefit by poring through his posts so that they can try and keep from NK'ing his partner. And you have made it obvious you ARE looking for his partner fyi.

 

Also @ Underlined- so you call me out for buddying Tom, then buddy him immediately after. Obvious much?

 

But just because he is mentioned doesn't make him automatically only a possible survivor. He could just as well be mafia that was unfortunately interacting with Peace and just would be caught in the crossfire as it were.

 

I actually don't see Despo as the survivor. I am currently leaning Cory for the survivor With Despo and Golden(Dice) mafia. I am thinking there would be one more mafia but the candidates there are muddled. 

 

Can we just lynch Despo and get a mafia? or if you are right the other survivor? We really do need to eliminate the survivors also. 

 

OMG SO SCUMMY!!!!!! HOW IS NO ONE ELSE SEEING THIS?!?!?!?!?!

 

So you got Cory pegged as survivor. Funny how you conveniently had him as one of your scum reads for a while, and this is AFTER Cory HIMSELF pointed out that scum would want to know most who the other survivor is. Turin even in the off chance you're town what you're doing is incredibly stupid- TOWN WANTS THE MAFIA TO NK SURVIVORS FOR US. Naming possible candidates for that on thread is just ridiculously antitown.

 

Here's the funny thing tho. So we had Peace flip Survivor. You're leaning Cory as his partner. You think me and GE/Dice are mafia. And you think it's possible that could be it for the antitown elements in this game? Puhlease. You're exposing yourself so much right now.

 

Underlined: Bahahaha now you're fearmongering about the other Survivor! Town lynching a known Survivor would be such a ridiculously wasted lynch it's not even funny. Again:

 

TOWN WANTS MAFIA TO NK SURVIVOR FOR US. THIS IS THE OPTIMAL GOAL. PUSHING ANY OTHER STRATEGY OR CONCEPT IS CLAIMING SCUM.

[hazelkrs1]

Unvote, Vote TG.

 

Would really be moar than happy to lynch Turin tho today however. He is howling like I have never seen before. Continuously hardcore buddies Tina, but when asked why he has such a strong town read on her he winks and buddies his interrogator. Is pushing antitown agendas left and right. Has ducked my points about him and has done a megashitty job of following up on any of his reads all game. Prime candidate for scum based on his involvement in the Nolder lynch (bandwagoned onto it, didn't do #work in the meantime and didn't actively pressure Nolder once). Just so much against him, I am genuinely frustrated others aren't seeing what I am.

 

TG -> Turin -> Tina. Lynch in this order and resolve the replacements and town is set imo.

[Turin Turambar]

You apparently are failing at reading Despo. Hallia's responses were in response to direct questions. and my statement to her was that between her two choices it looked to me like her TG case was stronger than her Tina case. you are either misrepping purposely or really failing to understand what is going on.

 

The fact of why I didn't respond to any of your stuff was that you out them all in huge WoTs that mostly don't apply to me. I have neither the time nor the inclination to delete all the irrevevalant junk in them to find your weak charges. Put them into a post without a bunch of other stuff and fluff and I will get to them in due time. .   

 

As to the LOCK CLEAR thing, I really should not have to explain it to you. READ THE THREAD. Asto the "White Knighting" ans her response, She hasn't even been awake since I posted those statements so you are talking out of your blowhole. Way to just try to fling anything at anyone that doesn't follow the things you want. 

 

Are you saying that Peace played a bad game? I doubt that if the mafia killed him the first chance it got. Therefore yes I want to see what he had to say. And who he interacted with and how. You want to throw it away and just pick another person that did "Something scummy" to mislynch. Your record isn't very good so far this game. You pushed Csarmi with a god awful case calling him obvsmaf. Then you switched to Tina after she had said she had a mafia lean on you. Then you jumped at Nolder(town) now you are back flipping between Csarmi, Tina, Me and TG. 3 of 4 of us have you as likely mafia. Pattern identified. your first two cases were against people that I have varying degrees of town read on. The third was on a confirmed town slot. Now you say that you want to lynch me but are voting someone else that has you as mafia. Way to go.

 

I'm town so I the entire NK idea is bogus. Of course I am also looking for his partner. all anti town elements must be dealt with. The idea that you just let survivors run around willy nilly is bad as was recently proven to town in the revolution game. The town can not count on the mafia to kill the other one. The entire game must be solved. Don't just hope that the survivor is pseudo-town. 

 

So are only the mafia the scum to you or is it all of those not town? 

 

continuous misrepping. I was referring to who the last elements could be. there are several candidates but no one is standing out too much. maybe AJ(Hallia)

 

putting your opinion in huge letters don't make it so.

 

Who and where did I buddy someone? 

 

Time is limited so you get what you get as far as following up on cases etc. .I am sure you want to lynch as many town players as you can.  

 

Oh and thanks for saying I am stupid because I disagree with.you and your methods. And the other name calling too. 

 

Good night

[hazelkrs1]

Lol Turin pulling a page out of GE's book with the mock emo outrage. Dude is obviscum.

 

I'll tear apart the rest of that drivel after I finish audit.

[Niniel]

I´m here and will continue to read the thread. 

 

*hugs Turin, my Black Knight*

[Niniel]

Updated reads:

 

1. Des - UPDATE: Still liking your throught processes and casing.  And yes I am teh improved Hallz!

 

10. Turin - UPDATE:  I did think Csarmageddon was town(Welcome to the game Luci! ).  It was more in the way he did it and his current play that made me feel better about him.  As I stated before it was the way Tina went about saying he as town.  When I see the Tommy and crew say things like 'LOCK CLEAR' I take that with a grain of salt because I've never played with them before, whereas I have with Tina.  And I said yes, claims shouldn't clear anyone, but it can make you think twice if it sounds plausible.  It's not a 100% thing either way, and never should be.

 

9. TG - Mentioned something about Csarmi's spam but not anyone else's.  Why just him? UPDATE:  This was my previous read on him, I don't believe he ever addressed it.  I feel like he was focusing solely on Csarmi hoping for an easy lynch perhaps?  Because as most people know, Csarmageddon has a penchant for being lynched super duper early pretty darned often.  And then TG responded to heat with:

*grabs popcorn*

Which makes me sad, because that isn't the type of response I hope you would have when being questioned.  I do see you went back later and responded to Des's WoT.

 

5. Tina - UPDATE: You did a reread and kept the old names for people being replaced, and made no mention of new content.  What did you think of my opinion on you?  Still not pleased  v - See Below

I´ve read up until page 32. Will continue tomorrow morning. Will comment on what I have until this point and then go back to defend myself from those who voted me. 

 

Darthe: didn´t say much. Voted Kronos because Kronos voted me because I said Cs was obviously town. Not much more to say about him so far.

 

AJ: Voted X without reading the whole thread although the deadline wasn´t close. Seems like a strange move if scum. I don´t know. 

 

 

 

I'm happy with Tina or TG to be honest.

 

Vote Tina

 

Just want to comment on this first. This is so weird. You vote me for not mentioning any new content at the same time as you quote my post where I say that I have only read half of the thread. lol Later you say to Turin that you would have rather made private notes. So it´s better that I stay quiet? Scummy, scummy post. "I want to follow others but pretend that I have a reason of my own."

[dicetosser1]

ok im here

 

thanks for the warm welcome Des.....

 

 

can anyone gimme a quick recap including any claims? I already know csarmi claimed Ackbar but im only up to page 7  so its gonna take a bit to catch up

[hazelkrs1]

Just wanted to make this its own separate post so that hopefully it doesn't get bypassed by others. Will respond to all other points in Turin's post in my next post.

 

I noticed a HUGE scumslip in Turin's last post. It has to do with all the things he kept saying about me trying to get town lynched, and trying to push mislynches, and my track record not being good, etc.

 

Here's the thing tho. There has been ONE person who has flipped so far that I was wrong about, someone whose lynch I pushed but ended up flipping town, and that's Nolder, someone who Turin says he found scummy before his flip as well.

 

So where the hell is he getting this whole thing from? How is he so certain I'm "pushing mislynches" and trying to get town lynched, when it's only freaking day 2 and the one person I've been shown to be wrong about so far was someone nearly everyone found scummy.

 

Looks to me like Turin let slip that he knows too much, and knows that either past targets of mine or current people I'm pushing as scum are town. The only explanation that really makes sense.

 

After all, he tried to make it seem like I have a bad track record this game, but there's only been one person I pushed that has actually flipped town so far. What about his track record? He bandwagoned onto Nol's lynch, but didn't actively push it at the time, so more likely to be scum in this scenario than me. That's one. He's tunneled on me, that's two, altho subjective in this case since yall don't realize I'm town. He also fos'd Peace a LOT at the end of day and during the night leading up to the NK, and altho Peace wasn't town he wasn't mafia either, so the mafia team would have thought him town. So I'll count that as three. And one of his other major reads, Cory, he went from being slightly suspicious, to having him as a major scum read, to having him as the other Survivor. I have had a town read on Cory most of the game (only time I was wary of him came from a misunderstanding when I thought he claimed VT). And he now is pushing the idea that we should lynch the other Survivor over potential mafia.

 

So between the two of us, TURIN is actually the one who has pushed against more people that have shown to not be mafia. And moreover, he kept pushing this concept because he said I had pushed for two people he has town reads on- Salami and Tina. But he has never mentioned what makes him think they are both town, and he says all the time how wrong I always am in mafia, so why can't I just be wrong here?

 

But no, that wouldn't fit into his little agenda on me. The whole "Despot is maf cause he's pushing for all these town mislynches" thing is complete hogwash, and has convinced me beyond doubt that Turin is scum.

 

Unvote, Vote Turin.

 

I'll be online tomorrow before deadline so I'll make sure to help consolidate if I'm needed. I think this find tho in conjunction with everything else I've posted about Turin is way more than enough to see him lynched for the scum he is.

 

Still think TG looks extremely suspect, especially for that awful reads list, but Turin is begging for the noose right now.

[Niniel]

Read up to page 52. Will now take bf on lunch. Will continue when I come back. So far I have found no reason not to vote TG. 

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

 

Vote count:

 

Des (1) Turin

Tommy (1) krak

Tina (3) Pray, des, Hally

TG (4) SP, Tommy, Cory, monk

Turin (1) des

 

Not voting (5) everyone else

 

with 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch

 

DL is Wed. Feb. 12th at 10 PM EST

 

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140212T22&p0=422

 

[hazelkrs1]

You apparently are failing at reading Despo. Hallia's responses were in response to direct questions. and my statement to her was that between her two choices it looked to me like her TG case was stronger than her Tina case. you are either misrepping purposely or really failing to understand what is going on.

 

Completely unnecessary tone and poke @ me right here, for a pretty simple understanding. I thought Hallia was updating her reads, I didn't realize she was responding to an earlier question from you. Why you start going off the handle saying I'm failing so much is beyond me, unless you're just mad that I'm so good at soulreading you as scum.

 

The fact of why I didn't respond to any of your stuff was that you out them all in huge WoTs that mostly don't apply to me. I have neither the time nor the inclination to delete all the irrevevalant junk in them to find your weak charges. Put them into a post without a bunch of other stuff and fluff and I will get to them in due time. .

 

Oh I bet you'd love for me to put everything I have on you in a big 'ol wot so you can try and drown your defense in the wall I set up for you.

 

I'm not asking you to respond to every single point I've raised against you. Frankly at this point, I'm convinced you're scum anyways so you not responding to my cases on you is pretty meh to me at this point. But you WERE ducking me dude, I had raised several points against you over the matter of several days, and you never responded to any of them before this point. You just kept pushing me as a scum read without trying to flesh it out ever. That's scummy bro.

  

As to the LOCK CLEAR thing, I really should not have to explain it to you. READ THE THREAD.

 

Uh... I did. And I read you calling others out for using the "LOCK CLEAR" thing, and saying you were old fashioned so weren't comfortable with modern trends.

 

THEN YOU SAID IT YOURSELF.

 

What hidden explanation am I missing here, oh wise sage of Turin?

 

Asto the "White Knighting" ans her response, She hasn't even been awake since I posted those statements so you are talking out of your blowhole. Way to just try to fling anything at anyone that doesn't follow the things you want.

 

Moar unnecessary cheap shots (talking out my blowhole, saying I'm flinging anything at anyone).

 

And you've been defending Tina for quite some time dude. She has never had a problem with it. I wasn't talking about your recent hardcore defense, I was referring to you defending her overall for some time. Incidentally tho she has posted since then, and still apparently has no problem with it.

 

Are you saying that Peace played a bad game? I doubt that if the mafia killed him the first chance it got. Therefore yes I want to see what he had to say. And who he interacted with and how. You want to throw it away and just pick another person that did "Something scummy" to mislynch.

 

I never said Peace played a bad game. But him being a Survivor, not town, means he was less motivated to find scum. And even townies are often wrong. The important thing is that analyzing the N1 NK is generally an antitown move. It's willingly wading into the mafia team's wifom, and any info you CAN obtain from it usually isn't helpful till a lot later.

 

And LOL @ Bolded: So now I'm scummy for wanting to lynch people who look scummy to me, instead of what you apparently would like us to do, which is focus as much as possible on Peace and try lynching his partner. ROFLMAO!

 

Your record isn't very good so far this game. You pushed Csarmi with a god awful case calling him obvsmaf. Then you switched to Tina after she had said she had a mafia lean on you. Then you jumped at Nolder(town) now you are back flipping between Csarmi, Tina, Me and TG. 3 of 4 of us have you as likely mafia. Pattern identified. your first two cases were against people that I have varying degrees of town read on. The third was on a confirmed town slot. Now you say that you want to lynch me but are voting someone else that has you as mafia. Way to go.

 

I already covered a good bit of this in my previous post but yeah Turin, your track record is so far objectively worse than mine. And you also have pushed at people I had town reads on (Cory and Peace), so yeah this point is completely invalidated. You trying to paint me as continuously pushing for mislynches when we have still had so few flips is beyond laughable.

 

I'm town so I the entire NK idea is bogus. Of course I am also looking for his partner. all anti town elements must be dealt with.

 

Yeah that's where you're wrong dude. It's not just a third party role we're confirmed to have, it's a SURVIVOR. They can win with town or mafia. If we kill all the mafia (or cult but I obv doubt very much there's cult this game), then we don't HAVE TO "deal with" them, they win alongside us and we all have a jolly old day and get snowcones together. You're trying to make your completely objective antitown stance seem protown, it's not gonna work. Town should be more focused on finding mafia than a third party Survivor right now, period.

 

The idea that you just let survivors run around willy nilly is bad as was recently proven to town in the revolution game. The town can not count on the mafia to kill the other one. The entire game must be solved. Don't just hope that the survivor is pseudo-town.

 

I'm not counting on, or hoping that the Survivor tries to win with us. I'm saying they're so far down on our priority list that we essentially shouldn't even be looking for them at this point. The best way to make the Survivor throw his chips in with town is to lynch mafia. You're trying to discourage us from that and keep us focused on finding third party. This is absurd, that I'm having to explain why this is scummy to you.

 

It's not rocket science Turin.

 

Fearmongering about third party instead of focusing on finding scum in general is a scum tactic, plain and simple. Keep digging your own hole by all means tho.

 

So are only the mafia the scum to you or is it all of those not town?

 

Technically speaking, anyone that's not town is scum. But I'm simply not worried about a third party Survivor right now, and no townie should be. Town should be worried about finding the person who is most likely pushing a scum agenda, and lynching that person. Searching for a Survivor is wifomy and distracting at best, and at worst playing right into the hands of the mafia team.

 

continuous misrepping. I was referring to who the last elements could be. there are several candidates but no one is standing out too much. maybe AJ(Hallia)

 

How did I misrep exactly? You said there "could" be one mafia left after me and GE, meaning you thought it possible there might be none.

 

Personally I don't think you actually believed or were trying to say we could have a 2 man scum team plus Survivor Masons, I think it's more that you got tripped up on words because you knew you were pushing a fake case.

 

putting your opinion in huge letters don't make it so.

 

ORLY?!

 

 

Who and where did I buddy someone?

 

You buddied Tommy by adding the "or maybe he's just letting Despot buddy him as part of his master plan hehe" which was clearly you trying to stroke Tommy's ego. And the LOCK CLEAR thing could have been you buddying as well, trying to fit into the group.

 

Time is limited so you get what you get as far as following up on cases etc. .I am sure you want to lynch as many town players as you can.

 

 

And there you go with that "lynch as many town players as you can" nonsense, which you pretty much pulled directly out of your ass.

 

Oh and thanks for saying I am stupid because I disagree with.you and your methods. And the other name calling too.

I never said you were stupid, reading is FUNdamental bro. I said trying to reveal Peace's partner to the mafia team is stupid, and it is, cause that lets them further limit the pool to hunt for PR's and keep from NKing someone that wouldn't hurt town. I never called you any names, or said anything personal about you. You on the other hand took cheap shot after cheap shot in this post, all completely unnecessarily.

 

If you're going to laughingly try to say I called you names by saying you're scum, well then sir I have one thing to say to you:

 

 

 

[hazelkrs1]

ok im here

 

thanks for the warm welcome Des.....

 

 

can anyone gimme a quick recap including any claims? I already know csarmi claimed Ackbar but im only up to page 7  so its gonna take a bit to catch up

Monk claimed Han Solo. SP breadcrumbed/claimed mon Mothma. Turin claimed scum. That's it as far as claims go (that I know of).

 

Quick recaps are for the birds. Could color your thinking the wrong way. If you're town, let yourself get an unadulterated view of the thread first. Sucks to replace into a game with 70 pages, but yeah you kinda knew what you were getting yourself into...

 

And why the remark @ me btw? I'm not the only one who thought GE looked sketchy, why do you only take exception with my read on your slot? Didn't think I was rude to you or anything when you joined /shrug

[Tommyrod]

** HARD CLAIM **

I am GOAT

http://www.goat-simulator.com/

[Tommyrod]

I'll sift through this when I have time, but off to work. I am probably not WTL outside of the T's today, and we only have about... 14 hours?

[Niniel]

 

ok im here

 

thanks for the warm welcome Des.....

 

 

can anyone gimme a quick recap including any claims? I already know csarmi claimed Ackbar but im only up to page 7  so its gonna take a bit to catch up

Monk claimed Han Solo. SP breadcrumbed/claimed mon Mothma. Turin claimed scum. That's it as far as claims go (that I know of).

 

Quick recaps are for the birds. Could color your thinking the wrong way. If you're town, let yourself get an unadulterated view of the thread first. Sucks to replace into a game with 70 pages, but yeah you kinda knew what you were getting yourself into...

 

And why the remark @ me btw? I'm not the only one who thought GE looked sketchy, why do you only take exception with my read on your slot? Didn't think I was rude to you or anything when you joined /shrug

 

 

How did I miss this? 

 

Okay. 20 pages to go. 

[hazelkrs1]

@Tommy: DM is pretty used to scrambling before the deadline to secure a lynch lol. We ain't missing it.

 

@Tina: That's what the whole "co mon mon" thing was about

[Niniel]

I´m not very good at subtle hints. lol I didn´t even know her name. 

 

12 pages to go.

[Turin Turambar]

Way to go Despo. I LOL @ your recap post to dice.

 

Don't wanna colour his judgement and then make a purely editorial statement about me. Incorrect to boot.

 

If you do nit wish to repeat your original arguments then I will assume you didn't believe them. Your latest is pretty funny too. Talking about my tone while using words like stupid and well I won't repeat the other one.

 

Good job shouting your opinions as facts. I may have time to go thru it during the day. Or not if not then will tonight.

[hazelkrs1]

Read up to page 52. Will now take bf on lunch. Will continue when I come back. So far I have found no reason not to vote TG.

Just wanna say this wasn't a good post either even tho it's a mid-catchup one.

 

No reason not to vote TG. Lol. He's the countertrain to her today, why would she "need reason" to vote him? As townie she wouldnt know his alignment but would know a lynch on her would be guaranteed to hit a townie. Ping for that.

[Pralaya]

Eh, Tina looks quite scummy at this point. I don't  like this quick unvote on someone who she had a strong scum read on. So,  he claimed Han Solo and she didn't even question that. I am usually wary of the people who start unvoting a train as soon as a claim comes in.

 

I´m here. 

 

Unvote

 

Fence sitting alert! I don´t like Monk´s early reveal. I´m aso quite sure that Basel has given out fake claims and from what I have seen of other mods recently they often give out some important characters. But... Han Solo could be an important person if he is in this game.

 

Will now begin my re-read. It will probably take a few hours.