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keyholder21 Spam Master

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@ des - what good would offering myself up do if I'm scum? I flip and then obviously Kay would be next choice because I said I should be lynched instead of her.

 

I even pointed out why she would be a bad lynch choice over me.

 

I have put a lot of effort into this game so if you all think I'm scum then just vote me and get it over with. When I flip, you'll have a better idea on a lot of people.

 

Ishy and des are my strongest scum reads. Ishy, I said I wanted to look at your posts before I voted you. Then, when I saw the connection between you and des, I wanted to look at him too. I would vote either of you.

 

I cc an't vote myself, so vote ishy

keyholder21 Spam Master

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I'm losing interest fast

 

I could go for Cloud/Key/Dice/Luci probably

What more can we do to spark your interest?

 

It's an open setup and every setup says it's 3 mafia, not 4.

hazelkrs1 Spam Master

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Okay, read through Key's iso on me all the way.

 

Unvote.

 

Still think she could be scum, but she does seem to be working pretty hard to prove her towniness. Some of the points she made against me were big time reaching, but others looked like they could have been genuinely trying to find stuff that looked off to her.

 

Quick stuff I did feel like responding to:

 

1. When did I ever say I thought Hallu seemed scummy? He never really posted enough to even get a read on him. You say several times during your iso of me that I called him scum, don't ever remember doing that

2. WTL = Willing To Lynch

3. You got really hung up on how when I voted you D1, you weren't the next highest train... I had just seen Ishy vote you not too many posts before that, don't think or don't remember any other votes before that one, so I figured why not and switched to you too (along with Ishy). The fact that you continuously make such a big deal about you not being the next highest train is one of the biggest reasons I've found you scummy today. Looks like it could be scum latching onto something they think will make others lynch a townie to me. Could just be you really think that is significant /shrug

4. Braggadocio. You should look it up. I'm not nearly as egotistical as you think I am. I play the part to be funny. Ha. Ha.

5. :mad::angry::mad::angry::mad::angry: There. There's your fill for this game. :tongue:

hazelkrs1 Spam Master

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About to go up front so Imma post these real quick now just to save em, will give my analysis in a bit (once my supervisor leaves lol)

 

 

no wonder she is worried about mistakes lol   that woulda scared the beelzebub outta me first game or 2.

 

Cloud   your vote stands out cause its the third vote she has recieved already. a joke vote from me, GND and then you.

 

I don't count my votes because I don't care how my play comes across. It's about time that this game gets started.

 

 

 

 

Key : I already apologised for that. I'm going after anything that might get us somewhere. It's often all over the place D1. Letting things slide and ignoring possible leads/connections no matter how small gets us nowhere, especially later in the game.

 

And yet you called my vote on Aida opportunistic? Right :rolleyes:

 

 

Can we lynch Kaylee already?

 

 

 

I really like AJ's idea about the Survivor just claiming right now. I had a townish read on Key before she unvoted from Kay and starting backtracking from her read on her after AJ and Ishy started defending her play because of her meta. It just seemed way too opportunistic, and now she is voting for Luci who I have town read on just because she left a couple of people of her list of town and scum reads.

 

 

 

 

Unvote. Vote Aida

It looks like Kay's train won't go anywhere.

Is there a reason for this vote? Doesn't appear to be.

 

 

I don't have much of a reason. I would rather lynch her over AJ or Luci.

 

 

 

I will be going to bed now. Good luck with achieving a lynch.

 

 

His vote on AJ was terrible, and he is now pushing for Kay's lynch and saying that he had a scum read on her yesterday, while his previous posts contradict this statement. He has also been sprouting bs for the majority of the game so far, so yeah he's most likely scum.

 

 

 

And I disagree with it meaning GE was town. Steppi g out has no bearing on alignment. Scum players can get just as mad and sub out, regardless whether their scummates try to calm them down. If you notice, there's not a lot of time between his posts where he's here and then has asked for a sub. It's entirely possible f he is scum, that he didn't even go to the QT until after he asked for one. Town players and mafia players alike get upset and ask for a sub. Heck, could have even been because he thought there was no way out of looking scummy.

 

I agree with Key. Mafia will do whatever they can to win a game, so you should never make the mistake of thinking in the lines of "mafia wouldn't do that" because a good player would do just that what you don't expect him to do.

 

Scum reads: Key (obvious), Dice, Cloud, Luci

 

Feels like Cloud hasn't posted in a while btw. Cloud, what are your thoughts on all the players still alive?

 

Kaylee: I had a scum read on her for the majority of the game so far. Golden voting for her at the start of Day 2 made me started to doubt my read on her, but it was probably a vote to distance from each other. It would also explain why he had a town read on her during Day 1, and later on claimed that he was reading her as scum. I also think her case on Key was weak and it's interesting how she suddenly thinks she is Mafia while she has also been following her around since Day 1.

 

Hallu: No idea. He hasn't posted much of anything.

 

Ishy: I always have a difficult time reading him because he has a tendency to not explain his reads, and when he does they are also quite brief. I tend to have a town read on him, but I disagree with his reads about Key and Luci so I'm still on the fence about him.

 

Key: She made a couple questionable moves, but she has been actively scumhunting and I happen to agree with a lot of her posts, and I especially like her play since Day 2. I have a town read on her.

 

Tom: Nice catch-up posts. I haven't played with him before, but so far he looks pretty townie to me.

 

Dice: I have found his play to be questionable. He has been voting for people with in my opinion thin reasonings in mind, and even though he just posted a list with his thoughts on each player it doesn't really tell me anything about his thought process which I find scummy.

 

Cloud: Town.

 

Darthe: Dunno. He doesn't seem very interested in this game. I agree with his vote on Kaylee though.

 

Luci: I have a newbie Town read on her. Things like her vote on Tom because she thinks he slipped up and admitted to be Mafia give me a feeling that she isn't faking her reads.

 

Krak: Replaced Golden who I had a scum read because of his contradicting statements and his vote on AJ. Scum read.

 

Des: Town read. His play has been a bit more sloppy then when he's mafia, as can be seen in his casing of AJ where he kept misreading stuff. He also been fluffing around a bit more than usual but this doesn't really say much.

 

 

So I could go for Kay, Krak, and Dice. I'm still unsure about Ishy and Darthe. Hallu should be replaced, policy lynched or modkilled if she isn't willing to play anymore.

 

 

Unvote. Vote Kay

 

 

 

@Tom: What do you find suspicious about Key

 

And yes, this is Luci's first game and Dice also tends to be scummy regardless of his allignment.

 

 

If I was Cloud and I was a townie I would try to dig up Krak's posts and convince people why he's scum, not just follow Darthe's vote on Kaylee and shrug about there being a scum out in the open (Krak) that nobody is talking about. I think Cloud is a big stinkin' faker.

 

:rolleyes:

 

I have already explained my scum read on Golden, and Krak hasn't done anything except made a vote against Dice. I'm not following Darthe, I have voiced my suspicion about Kay during Day 1 and I don't like to unnecessarily repeat myself when everyone can easily look up my case on her. Her play during Day 2 hasn't done anything to make me reconsider my read on her, and has instead only been more of the same I pointed out her doing during Day 1 like being hypocritical, and trying to argue semantics when she is called out for it. 

 

 

Examples of Kay acting hypocritical and arguing semantics:
 
 

 

 

I agreed with what Key pointed out about Golden. That's it for this day phase.

 
Bad post. You get called out for following Key, so solidify your stance in following her? Not good at all.

 

I'm not going to lie about agreeing with her no. I wasn't following her. I agreed with what she pointed out and decided it was worth noting. I then voted Golden because of that, yes, and because he seemed likeky scum to me.

 

 
Agreeing with someone else's case, and then voting for a person because of it is the definition of following someone.
 
 

Not a hypocrite Key. You stated his leaving didn't speak to his alignment...I let it drop because I always let the replacement speak for themselves. I'm not saying you can't. It was that you argued against the alignment. That wasn't my only reason either. I'm getting a scum vibe from you so I voted you.

 
The only difference between you and Key in this situation is that she voiced her opinion, while you kept quiet about it and made the age old argument of wanting to let the replacement speak for themselves.

 

 

 

@Tom: What do you find suspicious about Key?

 

 

 

Can we lynch her now plz?

 

hazelkrs1 Spam Master

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no wonder she is worried about mistakes lol   that woulda scared the beelzebub outta me first game or 2.

 

Cloud   your vote stands out cause its the third vote she has recieved already. a joke vote from me, GND and then you.

 

I don't count my votes because I don't care how my play comes across. It's about time that this game gets started.

 

 

Tried dropping a towntell here (I say towntell cause really a townie shouldn't be as concerned with how their moves make them look, should only really be concerned with catching scum). Seems forced tho.

 

 

Key : I already apologised for that. I'm going after anything that might get us somewhere. It's often all over the place D1. Letting things slide and ignoring possible leads/connections no matter how small gets us nowhere, especially later in the game.

 

And yet you called my vote on Aida opportunistic? Right :rolleyes:

 

 

Can we lynch Kaylee already?

 

 

Urges a speedlynch on Kaylee

 

I really like AJ's idea about the Survivor just claiming right now. I had a townish read on Key before she unvoted from Kay and starting backtracking from her read on her after AJ and Ishy started defending her play because of her meta. It just seemed way too opportunistic, and now she is voting for Luci who I have town read on just because she left a couple of people of her list of town and scum reads.

 

Supports AJ's idea about the Survivor coming forward. Not sure if I ever weighed in on this, but yeah that whole thing was such an awful idea. Not only would it not work instantly cause a Survivor isn't just gonna come forward if others ask nicely, but exposing the Survivor would have actually worked against town, as I believe none other than Key pointed out.

 

He argues this concept for several posts after this.

 

 

 

Unvote. Vote Aida

It looks like Kay's train won't go anywhere.

Is there a reason for this vote? Doesn't appear to be.

 

 

I don't have much of a reason. I would rather lynch her over AJ or Luci.

 

 

Cloud says he doesn't have much of a reason... really a townie should never say something like this, especially not day 1. It's like an anti-discussion generator. You should always have a reason for your vote, even if it's something as lame as wanting to bandwagon (something Nolder likes to do), or consolidation.

 

I will be going to bed now. Good luck with achieving a lynch.

 

Combative attitude. No like. Town should almost always want to make sure a lynch is secured, so that SOME info can be obtained. Ping.

 

His vote on AJ was terrible, and he is now pushing for Kay's lynch and saying that he had a scum read on her yesterday, while his previous posts contradict this statement. He has also been sprouting bs for the majority of the game so far, so yeah he's most likely scum.

 

This is funny- Cloud went after Kaylee heavily day 1, yet switches to going after Golden day 1 because Golden is voting Kaylee. For a post meant to show a contradiction in someone else, it reveals somewhat of a contradiction on Cloud's part instead

 

 

And I disagree with it meaning GE was town. Steppi g out has no bearing on alignment. Scum players can get just as mad and sub out, regardless whether their scummates try to calm them down. If you notice, there's not a lot of time between his posts where he's here and then has asked for a sub. It's entirely possible f he is scum, that he didn't even go to the QT until after he asked for one. Town players and mafia players alike get upset and ask for a sub. Heck, could have even been because he thought there was no way out of looking scummy.

 

I agree with Key. Mafia will do whatever they can to win a game, so you should never make the mistake of thinking in the lines of "mafia wouldn't do that" because a good player would do just that what you don't expect him to do.

 

Scum reads: Key (obvious), Dice, Cloud, Luci

 

Feels like Cloud hasn't posted in a while btw. Cloud, what are your thoughts on all the players still alive?

 

Kaylee: I had a scum read on her for the majority of the game so far. Golden voting for her at the start of Day 2 made me started to doubt my read on her, but it was probably a vote to distance from each other. It would also explain why he had a town read on her during Day 1, and later on claimed that he was reading her as scum. I also think her case on Key was weak and it's interesting how she suddenly thinks she is Mafia while she has also been following her around since Day 1.

 

Hallu: No idea. He hasn't posted much of anything.

 

Ishy: I always have a difficult time reading him because he has a tendency to not explain his reads, and when he does they are also quite brief. I tend to have a town read on him, but I disagree with his reads about Key and Luci so I'm still on the fence about him.

 

Key: She made a couple questionable moves, but she has been actively scumhunting and I happen to agree with a lot of her posts, and I especially like her play since Day 2. I have a town read on her.

 

Tom: Nice catch-up posts. I haven't played with him before, but so far he looks pretty townie to me.

 

Dice: I have found his play to be questionable. He has been voting for people with in my opinion thin reasonings in mind, and even though he just posted a list with his thoughts on each player it doesn't really tell me anything about his thought process which I find scummy.

 

Cloud: Town.

 

Darthe: Dunno. He doesn't seem very interested in this game. I agree with his vote on Kaylee though.

 

Luci: I have a newbie Town read on her. Things like her vote on Tom because she thinks he slipped up and admitted to be Mafia give me a feeling that she isn't faking her reads.

 

Krak: Replaced Golden who I had a scum read because of his contradicting statements and his vote on AJ. Scum read.

 

Des: Town read. His play has been a bit more sloppy then when he's mafia, as can be seen in his casing of AJ where he kept misreading stuff. He also been fluffing around a bit more than usual but this doesn't really say much.

 

 

So I could go for Kay, Krak, and Dice. I'm still unsure about Ishy and Darthe. Hallu should be replaced, policy lynched or modkilled if she isn't willing to play anymore.

 

 

Unvote. Vote Kay

 

 

Quoted mainly cause he says he has a town read on Key, which I don't agree with, and a scum read on Dice, and he eventually comes back to say Dice always appears scummy. Saying someone seems scummy to you, but then telling someone else that person always seems scummy = you yourself are scummy.

 

@Tom: What do you find suspicious about Key

 

And yes, this is Luci's first game and Dice also tends to be scummy regardless of his allignment.

 

 

If I was Cloud and I was a townie I would try to dig up Krak's posts and convince people why he's scum, not just follow Darthe's vote on Kaylee and shrug about there being a scum out in the open (Krak) that nobody is talking about. I think Cloud is a big stinkin' faker.

 

:rolleyes:

 

I have already explained my scum read on Golden, and Krak hasn't done anything except made a vote against Dice. I'm not following Darthe, I have voiced my suspicion about Kay during Day 1 and I don't like to unnecessarily repeat myself when everyone can easily look up my case on her. Her play during Day 2 hasn't done anything to make me reconsider my read on her, and has instead only been more of the same I pointed out her doing during Day 1 like being hypocritical, and trying to argue semantics when she is called out for it. 

 

Here's where Cloud says Dice is always scummy. Also defends Key more, asks Tommy why he thinks she's scum.

 

 

 

@Tom: What do you find suspicious about Key?

 

 

Cloud REALLY wants to know what Tommy finds suspicious about Key.

 

Can we lynch her now plz?

 

And he also REALLY wants Kaylee dead apparently.

 

Conclusion: Cloud is a pretty good lynch for today, can give us some info on Dice. He also has laid really low this game, which for him is a scumtell since he normally attracts a lot of attention early on in games.

keyholder21 Spam Master

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Interesting things to choose to respond to.

 

1. When did I ever say I thought Hallu seemed scummy? He never really posted enough to even get a read on him. You say several times during your iso of me that I called him scum, don't ever remember doing that

I only say several times because I’m creating a list of the people that you claim are scummy. You’re right though, about Hallu. Looking back through, I thought your response to Darthe voting him and “covering for a teammate” was referring to him and Hallu being scum together. But now it occurs to me that that’s stupid :laugh:. You were referring to him voting in order to get heat off of either Luci (from Tommy) or me (also from Tommy lol).

 

2. WTL = Willing To Lynch

3. You got really hung up on how when I voted you D1, you weren't the next highest train... I had just seen Ishy vote you not too many posts before that, don't think or don't remember any other votes before that one, so I figured why not and switched to you too (along with Ishy). The fact that you continuously make such a big deal about you not being the next highest train is one of the biggest reasons I've found you scummy today. Looks like it could be scum latching onto something they think will make others lynch a townie to me. Could just be you really think that is significant /shrug

2. AH, that makes sense. Thanks :smile:. Now what about ISO? I’m just using it because you all are using it, but I have no idea what it really means.

3. Yeah, I did. Because it looks significant to me. It’s a lie on thread and it’s one of your stated reasons for voting me. Are you telling me that if someone lied on thread and you caught it, you would let them get away with it? Also, this is the first time you are addressing this. If you’d talked to me about it beforehand, when it happened then it might not have looked so big to me. But your ignoring it made it stand out even more, imo.

4. Braggadocio. You should look it up. I'm not nearly as egotistical as you think I am. I play the part to be funny. Ha. Ha.

5. :mad::angry::mad::angry::mad::angry: There. There's your fill for this game. :tongue:

4. Fair, although I don’t know you IRL, so all I have to go by is this. I’m glad to hear it though.

5. Yay :smile: thank you.

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Missed responding to this earlier.

 

key i looked again and owe u an apology golden was on the final train. However you complaining he made AJ the largest train close to deadline doesn't work for me. It was close to deadline someone had to become the largest train. If it had been anyone else would u have complained?

 

vote key

It's significant because he moved from Aida, who WAS the largest train at the time, to AJ, making HIM the largest train.

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To be completely honest, I don't know what to think about Cloud.  Imo, he says scummy things, but he seems like someone scum can use to get an easy lynch so meh.  

 

Des, you say his flip will tell you about dice, but honestly, I think my flip will tell you more.  People seem to think I'm scummy no matter what I do - even you yourself say after reading my iso that you still think I'm scummy - and if I stick around then I'm probably going to be the entire day of discussion AGAIN tomorrow.  

 

Additionally, people have tied several others to me, so my flip will help you with:

 

Kay, Luci, Dice, Darthe, and Cloud insofar as supposed teammates.  

 

Des and Ishy insofar as people painting me as very scummy.  Perhaps Tommy here too, since he seems to think I'm scum. (Side note: Admittedly, I was scummy early D1, but you should get to D2 dude, I think I more than make up for it)

 

Perhaps Darthe and Cloud insofar as people who see that I'm town. 

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Well Aida is me right? So that's actually a notch in Dice's favor, I think. Well, he's moving from a townie wagon to a townie wagon, so it's more null I guess. Was AJ the more "publicly acceptable" lynch?

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