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[Advanced] Vacation Mafia! Day 7

Kaylee

By Kaylee
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hazelkrs1 Spam Master

hazelkrs1

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Vote RTE

 

Dude is just freaking all over the place. Just horrid play, and I'm thinking mebbe Tina was onto something after all.

 

Something else I considered: they might have already recruited the REAL even night Doc, and planned the whole thing with RTE fake claiming it, which is why we never got a cc.

 

Still don't buy the N0 stuff, and RTE is flailing as hard as I've seen anyone in a while. The fact that he never came to his senses and apologized for his outburst is also troubling, makes it seem more like it was rehearsed.

 

Also, how could he not get that people protected =/= a good thing? Anyone who was protected and saved from a NK IS NOW SCUM. And ANNOUNCING a self-protect while this mechanic is known of is just... I don't even... There aren't words.

Niniel Spam Master

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I don't see why you're so anal to have me claim immediately. Looks to me like ferreting. Wait for people to discuss and then I will do so. Its my role and I can choose when is the best time to reveal based on what info I have.

 

Don´t you see the value of knowing if we had another town kill? 

 

Vote RTE

 

Dude is just freaking all over the place. Just horrid play, and I'm thinking mebbe Tina was onto something after all.

 

Something else I considered: they might have already recruited the REAL even night Doc, and planned the whole thing with RTE fake claiming it, which is why we never got a cc.

 

Still don't buy the N0 stuff, and RTE is flailing as hard as I've seen anyone in a while. The fact that he never came to his senses and apologized for his outburst is also troubling, makes it seem more like it was rehearsed.

 

Also, how could he not get that people protected =/= a good thing? Anyone who was protected and saved from a NK IS NOW SCUM. And ANNOUNCING a self-protect while this mechanic is known of is just... I don't even... There aren't words.

 

I´m a bit worried about that too. 

 

RTE is just screaming to get lynched. Why? 

Niniel Spam Master

Niniel

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Okay, I´ll just quote myself so I know where to find my thoughts. :D

 

Let´s list what we know first.

 

 

8 remaining players:

 

3. Yates
4. Ishy replaced by Csarmi
5. Key
10. NotBob replaced by Tina
14. Despo
15. Krak
16. RTE
17. Red replaced by Darthe 2.0
 

 

N0

-RTE selfprotected

 

D1

- Lenlo (vt) lynched

 

N1

- Aemon (vt) killed

- Mish view Red/Darthe = town

- Hally/Dice - we don´t know who was protected

 

D2

- Peace (vt) lynched

 

N2

- No kill = recruit 

- Mish view Des = town

- RTE protected Mish

 

D3

- Tress (vt) lynched

- Mish revealed

 

N3

- Hally/Dice (odd night doc) killed

- Darthe killed by NotBob/Tina

- Mish view RTE = town

- Hally/Dice - we don´t know who they protected

 

D4

- AJ/GF random mk

 

N4

- No kill

- Tina block Csarmi

- Mish view BG = not town

- RTE selfprotect

 

D5

- BG (recruit) lynched

 

N5

- Mish (cop) killed

 

 

Some things doesn´t add up. If you have used a doc protection or a vig kill, please speak up!

 

 

BG turned up being recruited. If we assume that all kills (except NotBob/Tina´s Darthe kill) have been excecuted by mafia then he must have been recruited before N4. Mish said that if she viewed someone that was recruited the same night then she would see the alignment before that night. That means that BG must have been recruited on N2 or N0, if RTE is telling the truth about it being N0 actions. But... as far as we know, they can only recruit if their target is protected by a doc. On N0 RTE selfprotected and on N2 he protected Mish. He didn´t protect BG either of these nights. 

 

Conclusion: RTE is lying, or there is someone that doc protected BG on N0 or N2. Alternative is that BG was recruited N3 and that Hally/Dice wasn´t killed by mafia. Actually, when I think about it. Why would they want to kill the doc? I guess that they rather recruit than kill. But of course, they might believe that Hally/Dice would selfprotect. But that is also strange, they should have assumed that Hally/Dice would protect Mish, who had claimed cop. 

 

On night 4 there might have been a recruit, if so then they could have recruited RTE, who selfprotected. But it could also be me blocking Csarmi that was the reason for no kill.

 

 

 

Okay, to solve this everyone needs to tell us their na´s. Csarmi has claimed vanilla. Darthe seems to have some kind of information. 

 

 

 

3. Yates
4. Ishy replaced by Csarmi - vanilla
5. Key - vanilla 
10. NotBob replaced by Tina - JoaT

13. Pralaya - vanilla
14. Despo - vanilla
15. Krak - vanilla
16. RTE - doc 
17. Red replaced by Darthe 2.0

 

 

Would like to hear from Darthe, Krak and Yates as well. 

 

 

That means that we have all claims except for Darthe´s and Yates´s.

 

 

Mod - is Yates still playing?

Niniel Spam Master

Niniel

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It´s hard to do a proper analazis without Darthe´s and Yates´s claims. I guess Darthe hasn´t killed anyone because it would be really bad to hide that as town. 

 

As Des pointed out, we have another option when it comes to the doc. They could have recruited a real doc, if RTE isn´t the real doc. They have only not killed on even nights. We know that RTE was town up to night 2 since Mish viewed him night 3. Maybe BG was he real doc? Is that why RTE acted the way he did?

 

We have to assume that RTE is lying about N0 since Mish didn´t get a cop view. That means that if it´s only mafia that have killed we should have maximum two cultmembers right now. We need to get rid of the one who can recruit. 

 

Darthe, Des and RTE is not the recruiter. 

 

 

I guess that the best lead we have right now is to kill RTE anyway. That will clear up a lot of things. His actions doesn´t add up with other actions, he is not acting townie at all and he is offering himself to get recruited. 

 

 

 

Vote RTE

Pralaya Master

Pralaya

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Again, thinking of RTE as doc ... whether he is scum or town, he is a disadvantage to town.

 

RTE successfully protects = -1 to town and + 1 to scum

RTE unsuccessfully protects or holsters or he is dead = -1 to town

 

Clearly, the latter is the better option for town. 

 

vote RTE

Pralaya Master

Pralaya

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Also, on Ishy/Csarmi

 

First!!

 

First to post

 

And cool setup Kay.

 

Second post

 

 

 

 

What does a RTE desire?


Oiled up and semi-nude men.

 

 

First to quote

 

I am really surprised that he is vanilla despite all these high chances of trigger. I don't believe his claim.

Not to mention, Tina mentioned she blocked Csarmi, which could have prevented the kill that night. 

csarmi Spam Master

csarmi

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I'm fine with an RTE lynch. I believe that if he had more to add, he'd have done it by now.

 

Not sure what's up with Yates or Darthe's cryptic words, but everyone else has spoken up by now.

 

vote RTE

csarmi Spam Master

csarmi

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@Pray - I don't know what I'm supposed to say to that.

 

I have no idea what the triggers are and no, I haven't even tried to speculate and find them out, because I find that cheap. And yes, I'm vanilla.

hazelkrs1 Spam Master

hazelkrs1

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Not gonna respond to those points against you CS? I should have worked on that ISO on your stuff tonight.... oh well, can do so after seeing RTE's flip

hazelkrs1 Spam Master

hazelkrs1

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Ninja'd

 

FYI, I also find looking for triggers to be kinda cheap, but when my team's that far down... would like to at least make for a competitive game

csarmi Spam Master

csarmi

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Hey Despo, I've been quite busy the last few days so I was skimming a bit. What points exactly?

 

Also, feel free to do your ISO.

csarmi Spam Master

csarmi

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Ninja'd

 

FYI, I also find looking for triggers to be kinda cheap, but when my team's that far down... would like to at least make for a competitive game

Ninja's :D

csarmi Spam Master

csarmi

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Well I answered that, kind of. I find trigger hunting against the spirit of the game, that doesn't depend on how my team is doing.

I'm dogmatic THAT way.

 

I don't find those points valid by the way. I'd expect Kaylee (or any mod using triggers) to hide them MUCH better than that.

csarmi Spam Master

csarmi

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CS have I mentioned how you're my favorite new mafia player? You even keep your sense of humor when scum :smile:

Do I now?

I don't remember being scum a lot. The only game that comes readily to mind is the Halloween Game. Was I funny there?

hazelkrs1 Spam Master

hazelkrs1

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Well I answered that, kind of. I find trigger hunting against the spirit of the game, that doesn't depend on how my team is doing.

I'm dogmatic THAT way.

 

I don't find those points valid by the way. I'd expect Kaylee (or any mod using triggers) to hide them MUCH better than that.

 

It seems it'd be a bit hard to hide ALL the triggers, as you'd prob make some of them based off of non-random stuff (like first person to post a specific word related to the theme) just to make the triggers list more interesting.

 

And I can't remember exactly what they were, but when looking back it seemed somewhat certain that Hallia and Mish hit triggers.

 

 

CS have I mentioned how you're my favorite new mafia player? You even keep your sense of humor when scum :smile:

Do I now?

I don't remember being scum a lot. The only game that comes readily to mind is the Halloween Game. Was I funny there?

 

 

Nice dodge :wink:

 

And yes.

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