THE METAL - End: Dinner for Wolves

[Kaylee]

You remembering may not be relevant, but him knowing it and now acting as if he didn't is definitely relevant.

[michellem]

That it is, absolutley.

[Yates]

Wanted to point this out:

This is where an ISO feature would be nice.[/b]

Bold: He knows there is one...

 

Yeah. It's not what I meant but I'm too lazy to type out why the MS ISO feature is better. I was also going to point out that *I* told her how to use this as a work around. What's your point?

 

Let's see how Cloud flips and go from there since this seems like a fairly banal post from you considering it came it what is technically twilight.

[Yates]

came *IN* what is technically twilight.

 

Point being; the timing is suspicious.

[Kaylee]

 

Wanted to point this out:

This is where an ISO feature would be nice.[/b]

Bold: He knows there is one...

 

Yeah. It's not what I meant but I'm too lazy to type out why the MS ISO feature is better. I was also going to point out that *I* told her how to use this as a work around. What's your point?

 

Let's see how Cloud flips and go from there since this seems like a fairly banal post from you considering it came it what is technically twilight.

 

How am I supposed to know you had those intentions? Why say it would be nice if you know there's a way to do it? Just seemed like you were saying you didn't know that there was a way to do it. 

 

Blue: What's your point with this? I've made cases during night before since I was able to get online. If I find something worth pointing out, I will. I can't get online during work unless I have time during my lunch break. So again, if I'm home and see something that sticks out to me, I'll say so.

[Andrej]

I knew what Yates meant about the ISO feature. MS has an option where you can select a certain player and it will display all of their posts in that game by simply clicking ISO in one of their posts. It takes away all the hassle described that you brought up Kaylee.

[Kaylee]

How could you know what he meant?

 

That wasn't what it sounded like he was saying. To me it came across more as he wished this site had a way of doing it at all, not just that it was easier to do.

[Darthe]

Sorry little loves, a pretty metal goddess fell sick from ROCKING too hard and called me away to a day of her affections.  I don't intend for this to happen again.

 

FINAL VOTE COUNT: 
AJ (4/7): Laya, Tina, BFG, Hally
Cloud (7/7): Des, Verb, Yates, Kay, Len, Mish, AJ
Tina (1/7): Cloud

Not Metal (0/12): 

As it should be.

 

But is he town or is he scum?  Is he scum or is he town?  Is he wolfie or kosher?

[Darthe]

Cloud, Vanilla Townie has been lynched.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The sun has set.  Let the bloodbath begin.

 

You have 24 hours to kill and view your respective targets.  Don't let it take 24 hours.

[Andrej]

How could you know what he meant?

 

That wasn't what it sounded like he was saying. To me it came across more as he wished this site had a way of doing it at all, not just that it was easier to do.

ISO is a fairly common term on Mafia Scum. I have played there occasionally which is how I'm familiar with it.

[Niniel]

Interesting... Both mafia and wolfs are happy with any lynches that doesn´t involve one of their own. Tomorrow lets take a new look at AJ, Verb, Yates and Des.

[hazelkrs1]

And now for this game. Sorry for not posting yesterday folks, got slammed and work and never got a chance to catch up. Doing so now.

[hazelkrs1]

 

 

I didn't like this post before, like it less now looking at it with Tina's case in mind. I just don't like the way she ends the post, just seems to be making too big a show out of how "town" she is. Kinda like a reverse on the buzzword thing: mebbe if you say you're town enough and loud enough, people will believe it.

 

Plus she pushes the "differentiate your reads" thing, which I already mentioned my aversion to.

 

I cut this down to comment on just the above. As for the bold Tina herself has been using "what a townie would do" or the word "town" in a lot of her posts. I just find it interesting that you comment on Mish doing that while liking Tina's case. It's just stood out to me that you call out Mish out for it and say nothing about Tina doing it.

 

 

When I saw Tina using the "not a townie thing to do" thing, it looked like it was just in response to Mish's post that used the same wording. The point I was making thos wasn't the use of the word town, but that Mish seemed to be making a show out of saying she was town.

 

Like in this post:

 

 

How is it a townie thing to twist away from a direct question? I want to you put your reads down on paper, because only mafia are elusive in their wording, so that they can't be pinned down later.

 

I already showed you that I'm not afraid to guess who's on the same team. You know why? Cause I'm town and I want the other townies to have my reads.

 

I never saw Tina say anything like I saw in the underlined portion of that quote.

 

Funny fact tho: I've actually changed my mind about both Tina and Mish. I'll get to that in a bit.

 

Meh. I meant what I said, so take it or leave it.

 

I think Cloud's focus on the wolves is more interesting than anything. The fact that he's jumping so quickly to vote me for something like that leads me to believe he is one of two things. I won't really expound too much there though.

 

BFG pointed this post out again, and I missed it the first time, but yeah this is def a very antitown post to make. If you think you see someone who might be the Seer, why would you hint to that in ANY way if you're town? I know AJ is relatively new but that doesn't excuse it. This is a bigger ping than I had seen anyone else mention on AJ.

 

 

 

I just don't like the way she ends the post, just seems to be making too big a show out of how "town" she is. Kinda like a reverse on the buzzword thing: mebbe if you say you're town enough and loud enough, people will believe it.

I cut this down to comment on just the above. As for the bold Tina herself has been using "what a townie would do" or the word "town" in a lot of her posts. I just find it interesting that you comment on Mish doing that while liking Tina's case. It's just stood out to me that you call out Mish out for it and say nothing about Tina doing it.

 

What's funny is that I was about to post something similar I noticed about Des's interaction with Tina but involving myself. Observe:

 

 

I agree with you [Verb], too. Which is why I was initially still on Cloud. At this point I feel like they are both sketchy and either one can go in either order.

Setting up lynches much, Yates?

 

Well. Yes. That's what you do when you have two scum reads. Yet, why make a big show of it? How is my saying I'd lynch in either order any different from this:

I could vote either AJ or Mish.

Once again, he's calling someone out for posting the same as Tina while ignoring Tina.

 

What's up??

 

 

Imo there's a substantial different between saying two people who you could vote for, and "either can go in either order". One seems predicated on current reads, that may change the next day, whereas the other strongly implies that you would be happy to see both lynched, ergo setting up a lynch in a much more overt manner.

 

And btw, NO, setting up of lynches isn't what you do when you have two scum reads. Setting up a lynch for the next day pretty much discounts any other info that could come to the surface between now and the next day. If you have two scum reads, you go for the one that seems more surely scum, then keep tabs on the other. If nothing else surfaces to change your mind or opinion, THEN there's nothing wrong with following up on your read and pushing their lynch. But that's not what you were saying to do. Just lynch em both, in whatever order.

 

I'm voting you because you have not mentioned AJ at all for the last day or so, you have only pushed on me, but kept your vote on AJ, even though it is clear he isn't anywhere near getting lynched. You don't seem interested in securing a lynch either; if you did, you'd have moved your vote when Cloud was at L-1. You haven't even bothered to vote me, even though Des has shown an interest in your case against me. So in other words, you claim you find me suspicious, but you don't bother placing a vote on me, or trying to get a train on me. You just nudge. That's why I'm voting you.

 

Actually some really good points here.

 

Also, I think Mish is town now. As scum she tends to overexplain when responding to pressure from others, but her concise responses to my queries makes me think she's town in this game. Plus, as Mish pointed out, if Tina believed the case on Mish herself, I think she would have actually voted her. If not, then she would go back and hammer on AJ more, and repeat the stuff she felt sketchy about him. Instead, she's been doing a lot of this lately:

 

 

The spotlight has moved completly away from AJ (and you are one of those who's made sure it has, too). If AJ really was your biggest scum read, why haven't you kept pushing him? Why haven't you tried to get others to see what you have? Is it because Cloud, who's also been pushing AJ, is *this* close to a lynch?

 

And also, exactly why have you chosen AJ to be more scummy than me? You've said that twice I've spoken from a scum team perspective; if you really beleive that, that should be pretty damning evidence, more than anything AJ has done so far.

 

lol Now you are doing it again. Saying that you are more scummy than AJ.

 

I have already explained why I´m voting AJ. This thread is not long. Go back and you will find it.

 

 

Why be so evasive about something fairly important? It shouldn't take too long to reiterate what bothers you about AJ if you have that strong of a scum read on him. I see scum do this sort of thing a lot. It's prickly and confrontational, doesn't seem very townie at all. Townies shouldn't have to challenge others to dig through and find their reasons for voting someone, they should have no problem with stating why they're voting them.

 

 

I linked it above - it's 3 hours from now

 

I know. From what I can understand of Mish´s post above, she wanted me to hammer Cloud yesterday.

 

 

Also don't like this post, Tina hammers on this a bit before others remind her about the open setup. Just seems like a sneaky way to continue discrediting Mish.

 

 

 

Well, you technically also have the Seer but claiming him is suicide. It's odd that Tina used that argument to defend herself against Mish.

 

Yeh, forgot that we don´t have a doc. Still think it was odd that Mish wanted me to lynch you yesterday.

 

 

With all that set-up talk of yours and varying teams? I doubt that.

 

If you don't die tonight I'll be voting you D2.

 

 

Interesting slip here tho. AJ, how are you so sure you won't die in the night? I suspect you KNOW Tina won't die because you and your buddy control the NK. Sad that I didn't pick up on what others saw sooner. Major fos @ AJ.

 

The game isn't that long; you can probably find them yourself...

 

Bahahaha nice Mish

 

Busy day my little rockers. Toull get a final VC soin but for now I am taking care of a sick Nicci.

 

Your fiance's name is Nicci? Weird. Wife's name is Niki.

 

 

Wanted to point this out:

This is where an ISO feature would be nice.[/b]

Bold: He knows there is one...

 

Yeah. It's not what I meant but I'm too lazy to type out why the MS ISO feature is better. I was also going to point out that *I* told her how to use this as a work around. What's your point?

 

Let's see how Cloud flips and go from there since this seems like a fairly banal post from you considering it came it what is technically twilight.

 

 

ah HA! You are so caught Yates. Thought you wiggled out of this one but lemme ask you this:

 

If that's what you meant, that DM's "ISO" feature wasn't as easy to use as MS's "ISO" feature, that still shouldn't have stopped you from... doing an ISO on me. And yet you still don't want to do one it seems hehe.

 

Nope, you wanted to casually link me with Tina, as you saw others doing as well, to try and discredit me after I called you out for setting up lynches. If you really thought you had something here, I don't think you would mention the ISO thing at all unless you decided to do one on me. You just wanted to make it seem like you would case me if only it were easier for you to.

 

You sir, are scum.

 

Interesting... Both mafia and wolfs are happy with any lynches that doesn´t involve one of their own. Tomorrow lets take a new look at AJ, Verb, Yates and Des.

 

Uhm, and this is news apparently? Why state something so obvious? Of COURSE scum would be happy lynching someone that aint on their team. You're acting like you're stumbling onto a revelation here.

 

Also, nice attempt at trying to lead town, and with such a weak, open-ended statement too. You don't give any reasons why any of us should be looked at, and furthermore it's kinda funny that you leave Mish off your list even tho you seemed pretty sure of her scumminess before.

 

You maam, are scum.

 

Updated scum reads:

 

AJ, Tina, Yates

 

Also think Pray and Verb have been lying way too low, and I wish Hallia had answered my question.

 

Hallia, were you serious when you said you thought Cloud was town because he hadn't claimed Doc?

 

Actually you know, it's no point. Of course she'll now come out and say she was joking, even tho her post didn't seem like it was. You can add her to the scum list as well.

[hazelkrs1]

Did RTE replace someone? I saw a post of his a bit ago saying he'd be busy, but he's on the backup list, not the player list...

 

Darthe, next time can you please not make the signup thread be the game thread? Makes it a little tougher to see who's lurking when there are a number of people who aren't playing atm but who have still posted.

[Andrej]

Des is scum. I'd be willing to bet that between him and Tina that one is a werewolf and the other is mafia.

 

FoS to Kaylee too for that bullshanks on Yates about the ISO feature. Des jumping on it for emphasize is just.... Ew.

 

And to answer your question Des, I have no idea that I'll die tonight. However considering I was the 2nd largest train and I personally know I don't belong to either scum team, I think I will stick around.

 

I'm actually hoping the wolves kill mafia tonight so we can make some more solid connections.

[hazelkrs1]

Also, I might catch some flak for this, but meh:

 

I got AJ as a Werewolf and Tina and Yates as Mafia together. I think AJ is a Wolf because he seems confident he won't die in the night, and because I think he included the part about "if you don't die tonight" so that he could act like he wouldn't know who'd be NK'ed. I think Tina and Yates are mafia together cause I think Yates is trying hard to link me with Tina cause he knows that Tina might start catching heat soon so wants to set up my lynch after she flips. Tina being confrontational about giving her reasons for keeping her vote on AJ even tho she kept nudging at Mish makes her solid scum in my book.

[hazelkrs1]

Des is scum. I'd be willing to bet that between him and Tina that one is a werewolf and the other is mafia.

 

FoS to Kaylee too for that bullshanks on Yates about the ISO feature. Des jumping on it for emphasize is just.... Ew.

 

And to answer your question Des, I have no idea that I'll die tonight. However considering I was the 2nd largest train and I personally know I don't belong to either scum team, I think I will stick around.

 

I'm actually hoping the wolves kill mafia tonight so we can make some more solid connections.

 

@ your lazy attempt to defend yourself.

 

To the bolded: why was it bullshanks? Yates complains about a lack of an iso feature... even tho DM sort of has one. When responding to what others said, whether he forgot or w/e, why wouldn't he have ISO'd me then? He didn't because he never intended to. He just wanted to make it seem like he would like to case me but complain about the site making it too difficult for him to do so. It would be like him saying "Man that guy is scummy. I would vote him if this site had vote tags..." then when others tell him he can still easily vote, he still doesn't do so. That's scummy as hell.

 

To the underlined: your train stalled hardcore yesterday and you know it. Don't try to use that as a cover for your slip. You have no fear whatsoever of a NK, because you control it. Nice try tho, scum.

[Andrej]

I will allow Yates to answer those questions and whether he actually comes in with said case or not. What I am saying though is that saying he wishes for an ISO feature isn't weird. In fact I found it more strange that Kaylee went back and quoted a game she wasn't even in as evidence.

 

Your NK logic is a hoax. I have a strong feeling that both of us will be alive come morning to duke it out :) Mostly because I am Town, and you likely aren't a werewolf so that plays into their hand to leave us both alive. Or more simply you are a werewolf which is how you can so easily speak of how I control the NK because in fact you're the one doing it yourself. I suppose we'll see some morning.

 

A fair catch on your part for my seer logic though. I never actually emphasized until later so it's strange that you quoted that post specifically. Are you looking for hints?

 

I am the Seer. How's that?

[hazelkrs1]

I will allow Yates to answer those questions and whether he actually comes in with said case or not. What I am saying though is that saying he wishes for an ISO feature isn't weird. In fact I found it more strange that Kaylee went back and quoted a game she wasn't even in as evidence.

 

Your NK logic is a hoax. I have a strong feeling that both of us will be alive come morning to duke it out :) Mostly because I am Town, and you likely aren't a werewolf so that plays into their hand to leave us both alive. Or more simply you are a werewolf which is how you can so easily speak of how I control the NK because in fact you're the one doing it yourself. I suppose we'll see some morning.

 

A fair catch on your part for my seer logic though. I never actually emphasized until later so it's strange that you quoted that post specifically. Are you looking for hints?

 

I am the Seer. How's that?

 

WTF?!

 

... not even sure how to react to this. Are you joking with this reveal? If you really are the Seer you're just BEGGING to get NK'ed. But if you are the Seer, why in the WORLD would you have talked about someone else being the Seer... eh to throw peeps off the trail I guess. But then you completely undo that by revealing now! I just don't get this at all. As Cloud said, fake claiming Seer would be suicide, but it's still hard for me to believe that you'd actually be the Seer, considering how you've played and that you'd just reveal out of the blue for nothing right now.

 

If morning comes and you're the Seer and dead, I'm going to be so freaking pissed off at you man. Can not believe you would have revealed like this. I'm stupefied.

[Pralaya]

Also think Pray and Verb have been lying way too low, and I wish Hallia had answered my question.

 

 

Weekend. I go to my in-laws on weekends as my wife and baby are there. They have weak internet and I usually don't go online weekends.

[Pralaya]

Interesting... Both mafia and wolfs are happy with any lynches that doesn´t involve one of their own. Tomorrow lets take a new look at AJ, Verb, Yates and Des.

 

This is a clear FoS on Tina.  Of course, they are happy. What is the point of mentioning it? Unless she is trying to subtly distance herself from both mafia and wolf.

[michellem]

I don't buy that "reveal" for a second. AJ, you are not stupid, and it would be BEYOND stupid to claim Seer on N1. The Seer is the only role town has; to claim at night, and the first night? No I don't buy it. You sir, are mafia.

 

I would urge the real Seer to not CC at this point. AJ's timing is proof enough against him.

[Kaylee]

 

How could you know what he meant?

 

That wasn't what it sounded like he was saying. To me it came across more as he wished this site had a way of doing it at all, not just that it was easier to do.

ISO is a fairly common term on Mafia Scum. I have played there occasionally which is how I'm familiar with it.

 

It's also a common thought around here too, even before we knew how to do it. It's been talked about since I started over a year ago. So I'm still not sure how you could know that's what he meant. Yes he plays on MS and it's more known there, however it's not a new concept here and he knew that. That was my point about bringing it up.

 

 

 

When I saw Tina using the "not a townie thing to do" thing, it looked like it was just in response to Mish's post that used the same wording. The point I was making thos wasn't the use of the word town, but that Mish seemed to be making a show out of saying she was town.

 

Like in this post:

 

 

How is it a townie thing to twist away from a direct question? I want to you put your reads down on paper, because only mafia are elusive in their wording, so that they can't be pinned down later.

 

I already showed you that I'm not afraid to guess who's on the same team. You know why? Cause I'm town and I want the other townies to have my reads.

 

I never saw Tina say anything like I saw in the underlined portion of that quote.

 

Funny fact tho: I've actually changed my mind about both Tina and Mish. I'll get to that in a bit.

 

Meh. I meant what I said, so take it or leave it.

 

I think Cloud's focus on the wolves is more interesting than anything. The fact that he's jumping so quickly to vote me for something like that leads me to believe he is one of two things. I won't really expound too much there though.

 

BFG pointed this post out again, and I missed it the first time, but yeah this is def a very antitown post to make. If you think you see someone who might be the Seer, why would you hint to that in ANY way if you're town? I know AJ is relatively new but that doesn't excuse it. This is a bigger ping than I had seen anyone else mention on AJ.

 

 

 

I just don't like the way she ends the post, just seems to be making too big a show out of how "town" she is. Kinda like a reverse on the buzzword thing: mebbe if you say you're town enough and loud enough, people will believe it.

I cut this down to comment on just the above. As for the bold Tina herself has been using "what a townie would do" or the word "town" in a lot of her posts. I just find it interesting that you comment on Mish doing that while liking Tina's case. It's just stood out to me that you call out Mish out for it and say nothing about Tina doing it.

 

What's funny is that I was about to post something similar I noticed about Des's interaction with Tina but involving myself. Observe:

 

 

I agree with you [Verb], too. Which is why I was initially still on Cloud. At this point I feel like they are both sketchy and either one can go in either order.

Setting up lynches much, Yates?

 

Well. Yes. That's what you do when you have two scum reads. Yet, why make a big show of it? How is my saying I'd lynch in either order any different from this:

I could vote either AJ or Mish.

Once again, he's calling someone out for posting the same as Tina while ignoring Tina.

 

What's up??

 

 

Imo there's a substantial different between saying two people who you could vote for, and "either can go in either order". One seems predicated on current reads, that may change the next day, whereas the other strongly implies that you would be happy to see both lynched, ergo setting up a lynch in a much more overt manner.

 

And btw, NO, setting up of lynches isn't what you do when you have two scum reads. Setting up a lynch for the next day pretty much discounts any other info that could come to the surface between now and the next day. If you have two scum reads, you go for the one that seems more surely scum, then keep tabs on the other. If nothing else surfaces to change your mind or opinion, THEN there's nothing wrong with following up on your read and pushing their lynch. But that's not what you were saying to do. Just lynch em both, in whatever order.

 

I'm voting you because you have not mentioned AJ at all for the last day or so, you have only pushed on me, but kept your vote on AJ, even though it is clear he isn't anywhere near getting lynched. You don't seem interested in securing a lynch either; if you did, you'd have moved your vote when Cloud was at L-1. You haven't even bothered to vote me, even though Des has shown an interest in your case against me. So in other words, you claim you find me suspicious, but you don't bother placing a vote on me, or trying to get a train on me. You just nudge. That's why I'm voting you.

 

Actually some really good points here.

 

Also, I think Mish is town now. As scum she tends to overexplain when responding to pressure from others, but her concise responses to my queries makes me think she's town in this game. Plus, as Mish pointed out, if Tina believed the case on Mish herself, I think she would have actually voted her. If not, then she would go back and hammer on AJ more, and repeat the stuff she felt sketchy about him. Instead, she's been doing a lot of this lately:

 

 

The spotlight has moved completly away from AJ (and you are one of those who's made sure it has, too). If AJ really was your biggest scum read, why haven't you kept pushing him? Why haven't you tried to get others to see what you have? Is it because Cloud, who's also been pushing AJ, is *this* close to a lynch?

 

And also, exactly why have you chosen AJ to be more scummy than me? You've said that twice I've spoken from a scum team perspective; if you really beleive that, that should be pretty damning evidence, more than anything AJ has done so far.

 

lol Now you are doing it again. Saying that you are more scummy than AJ.

 

I have already explained why I´m voting AJ. This thread is not long. Go back and you will find it.

 

 

Why be so evasive about something fairly important? It shouldn't take too long to reiterate what bothers you about AJ if you have that strong of a scum read on him. I see scum do this sort of thing a lot. It's prickly and confrontational, doesn't seem very townie at all. Townies shouldn't have to challenge others to dig through and find their reasons for voting someone, they should have no problem with stating why they're voting them.

 

 

I linked it above - it's 3 hours from now

 

I know. From what I can understand of Mish´s post above, she wanted me to hammer Cloud yesterday.

 

 

Also don't like this post, Tina hammers on this a bit before others remind her about the open setup. Just seems like a sneaky way to continue discrediting Mish.

 

 

 

Well, you technically also have the Seer but claiming him is suicide. It's odd that Tina used that argument to defend herself against Mish.

 

Yeh, forgot that we don´t have a doc. Still think it was odd that Mish wanted me to lynch you yesterday.

 

 

With all that set-up talk of yours and varying teams? I doubt that.

 

If you don't die tonight I'll be voting you D2.

 

 

Interesting slip here tho. AJ, how are you so sure you won't die in the night? I suspect you KNOW Tina won't die because you and your buddy control the NK. Sad that I didn't pick up on what others saw sooner. Major fos @ AJ.

 

The game isn't that long; you can probably find them yourself...

 

Bahahaha nice Mish

 

Busy day my little rockers. Toull get a final VC soin but for now I am taking care of a sick Nicci.

 

Your fiance's name is Nicci? Weird. Wife's name is Niki.

 

 

Wanted to point this out:

This is where an ISO feature would be nice.[/b]

Bold: He knows there is one...

 

Yeah. It's not what I meant but I'm too lazy to type out why the MS ISO feature is better. I was also going to point out that *I* told her how to use this as a work around. What's your point?

 

Let's see how Cloud flips and go from there since this seems like a fairly banal post from you considering it came it what is technically twilight.

 

 

ah HA! You are so caught Yates. Thought you wiggled out of this one but lemme ask you this:

 

If that's what you meant, that DM's "ISO" feature wasn't as easy to use as MS's "ISO" feature, that still shouldn't have stopped you from... doing an ISO on me. And yet you still don't want to do one it seems hehe.

 

Nope, you wanted to casually link me with Tina, as you saw others doing as well, to try and discredit me after I called you out for setting up lynches. If you really thought you had something here, I don't think you would mention the ISO thing at all unless you decided to do one on me. You just wanted to make it seem like you would case me if only it were easier for you to.

 

You sir, are scum.

 

Interesting... Both mafia and wolfs are happy with any lynches that doesn´t involve one of their own. Tomorrow lets take a new look at AJ, Verb, Yates and Des.

 

Uhm, and this is news apparently? Why state something so obvious? Of COURSE scum would be happy lynching someone that aint on their team. You're acting like you're stumbling onto a revelation here.

 

Also, nice attempt at trying to lead town, and with such a weak, open-ended statement too. You don't give any reasons why any of us should be looked at, and furthermore it's kinda funny that you leave Mish off your list even tho you seemed pretty sure of her scumminess before.

 

You maam, are scum.

 

Updated scum reads:

 

AJ, Tina, Yates

 

Also think Pray and Verb have been lying way too low, and I wish Hallia had answered my question.

 

Hallia, were you serious when you said you thought Cloud was town because he hadn't claimed Doc?

 

Actually you know, it's no point. Of course she'll now come out and say she was joking, even tho her post didn't seem like it was. You can add her to the scum list as well.

 

Ok, I guess I understand about Tina and what you were saying. I still think she's on one of the scum teams, I'm starting to think the same of AJ and Yates. Yates is more gut after the ISO thing, it just doesn't sit well with me. Even if he meant that he wished it was easier, he made it sound like there wasn't a way he knew of.

 

 

Des is scum. I'd be willing to bet that between him and Tina that one is a werewolf and the other is mafia.

 

FoS to Kaylee too for that bullshanks on Yates about the ISO feature. Des jumping on it for emphasize is just.... Ew.

 

And to answer your question Des, I have no idea that I'll die tonight. However considering I was the 2nd largest train and I personally know I don't belong to either scum team, I think I will stick around.

 

I'm actually hoping the wolves kill mafia tonight so we can make some more solid connections.

No, I found something worth considering and pointed it out. It's not bullshanks, slips come in all sizes dear.

 

 

 

I will allow Yates to answer those questions and whether he actually comes in with said case or not. What I am saying though is that saying he wishes for an ISO feature isn't weird. In fact I found it more strange that Kaylee went back and quoted a game she wasn't even in as evidence.

 

Your NK logic is a hoax. I have a strong feeling that both of us will be alive come morning to duke it out :) Mostly because I am Town, and you likely aren't a werewolf so that plays into their hand to leave us both alive. Or more simply you are a werewolf which is how you can so easily speak of how I control the NK because in fact you're the one doing it yourself. I suppose we'll see some morning.

 

A fair catch on your part for my seer logic though. I never actually emphasized until later so it's strange that you quoted that post specifically. Are you looking for hints?

 

I am the Seer. How's that?

 

WTF?!

 

... not even sure how to react to this. Are you joking with this reveal? If you really are the Seer you're just BEGGING to get NK'ed. But if you are the Seer, why in the WORLD would you have talked about someone else being the Seer... eh to throw peeps off the trail I guess. But then you completely undo that by revealing now! I just don't get this at all. As Cloud said, fake claiming Seer would be suicide, but it's still hard for me to believe that you'd actually be the Seer, considering how you've played and that you'd just reveal out of the blue for nothing right now.

 

If morning comes and you're the Seer and dead, I'm going to be so freaking pissed off at you man. Can not believe you would have revealed like this. I'm stupefied.

 

Bold: ^This, though I doubt with the timing that there is truth in it. (yes I know Mish said that as well. I happen to think the same about it.)

Purple: I couldn't have quoted it if I was in the game, besides I am, to my knowledge, allowed to used posts outside the game from any thread as a way of catching slips...how is that any different than looking at when they post somewhere else and say "I know they're online since they just posted in X a few minuets ago.."? It isn't. Perhaps your upset I found your teammate?

[michellem]

Wish we had a double-lynch tomorrow so we could lynch both Tina and AJ at once. Game would be half done with already.

[Yates]

Imo there's a substantial different between saying two people who you could vote for, and "either can go in either order". One seems predicated on current reads, that may change the next day, whereas the other strongly implies that you would be happy to see both lynched, ergo setting up a lynch in a much more overt manner.

Psh. Are you seriously going with this semantics defense? Weak sauce.

 

I can vote either.

I could vote either AJ or Mish.

Oh wait. You're right. I said "can" and she said "could." WORLD of difference there, right? /sarcasm

 

Lame. And FoS.

 

How could you know what he meant?

It would be pretty obvious if you played on MS. In retrospect, I realize that would only be obvious to MSers. Like vote tags and inline countdown timers [**glares at Verb**]. So since I have a bit more time to play now, let me clarify.

 

For example:

Darthe, next time can you please not make the signup thread be the game thread? Makes it a little tougher to see who's lurking when there are a number of people who aren't playing atm but who have still posted.

Des knows how to use the "ISO feature" on this board, right? He could find this info!  He is claiming ignorance when he knows better!!!  FoS??

 

Obviously I'm being tongue-in-cheek to respond to this:

If that's what you meant, that DM's "ISO" feature wasn't as easy to use as MS's "ISO" feature, that still shouldn't have stopped you from... doing an ISO on me.

[To the bolded] Really? Then why can't you tell who is lurking and who isn't? All you have to do is search each individual person using the "ISO" work around. Oh. Because it's a pain in the ballz versus clicking on a link that gives you quick and easy access to that info like this?

In this example, I can tell you in 2 seconds how long it's been since "StomachPains" last posted [6 days, 16 hours] or when RCB's V/LA is ending [tomorrow]. Also, if you click on the "posts" number, it auto-magically brings you to the isolated list of that person's posts. Obviously, isolation only gives you part of the story so being able to hit the back arrow and quickly click on someone else in ISO helps to give you context.

 

Scum are cool with misrepping points through ISO. Scum hunters find scum by finding these misreps and disproving them with context. Framing contextual arguments through searches takes significantly longer than clicking on ready links. That's all I was saying. TL/DR - I didn't have the time to follow up on that particular thought at that particular moment - that thought being that I wanted to know if Des was ignoring Tina, trying to make it LOOK LIKE he was ignoring Tina, or if he was simply using targeted misreps.

 

 

I think Yates is trying hard to link me with Tina cause he knows that Tina might start catching heat soon so wants to set up my lynch after she flips.

OR - and try to follow me on this - because you tied yourself to Tina by TWICE pointing out statements others said while ignoring the EXACT SAME STATEMENTS when made by Tina. Crazy, right? This isn't a chicken or the egg debate. It's documented history.

 

FoS to Kaylee too for that bullshanks on Yates about the ISO feature. Des jumping on it for emphasize is just.... Ew.

I think Kaylee's point was a legit "I think I caught Yates in a lie" moment.  I've jumped at these before.  Probably will again.  As stated above, I can understand how people that haven't played at MS before wouldn't have been clear on the implied differences. My only beef was the timing. It looked like scum getting ready to set up the next day's mislynch during twilight. I suppose I can buy that it was a schedule thing. If it becomes a pattern, though, I'll revisit.

 

That said, I'm with you on Des. It's like the "blood in the water" scum tactic. He sees an out of context argument that could potentially create a train and jumps on it to his advantage. A vote would have made me positive. As it is, I'm still having a tough time reading Des. He's skirting that line for me. Suspicious, sure. Scum? Still sorting.

 

In fact I found it more strange that Kaylee went back and quoted a game she wasn't even in as evidence.

Oh snap! That *WASN'T* in this game!! How did you know about that, Kaylee? I was going to point it out anyway [because credit where credit is due and I wanted the internet cookies] but how did you know?

 

As you said:

...slips come in all sizes dear.