Kingdom Hearts Mafia - Game 1 - Destiny Islands [Mafia Win!]

[Darthe]

I bloody know ).) I spoke in haste.

[Nolder]

It is now Night. You have 24 hours to send in your actions.

[Darthe]

Okay then.  Claim wouldn't have saved him anyhow.  Interesting.

[_CLOUD]

Damn it. Well, at least we didn't lose a PR on accident >.>

[Graendals favourite]

bloody hell, it is whaf I said,

[Tiinker]

... 

 

GG. 

[hazelkrs1]

Tbh once I saw Yates saying we should lynch Hallia or Tink I was starting to think Tink might be town. Didn't really have enough time for another lynch tho I don't think. Need more active voters.

[hazelkrs1]

Yates and Verb are scum tho BTW.

[Yates]

Tbh once I saw Yates saying we should lynch Hallia or Tink I was starting to think Tink might be town. Didn't really have enough time for another lynch tho I don't think. Need more active voters.

Glad your hindsight is 20/20 too....

 

 

Yates and Verb are scum tho BTW.

Yeah.  This is old news.  Tell me something you don't know...

[Yates]

Damn it. Well, at least we didn't lose a PR on accident >.>

This time...  Keep playing reckless, though.  Eventually you'll mislynch the cop.

[Yates]

It's fine, I was just thinking that perhaps we should get a claim first to be on the safe side.

Might have been nice even if in this case the result ultimately would have been the same.

[Darthe]

Agreed.  Who are your top four?

[Yates]

 

That reminds me, Yates trying to rolefish the Lovers claim from GF's posts pings a ton as well. I saw absolutely nothing in GF's posts to indicate a hint at that claim (including the one Yates quoted), and when called on it Yates claimed that GF was trying to claim Lover all over the place.

I don't see the hinting either, and am interested in hearing Yates on that one.

 

Where's the facepalm emoticon?

 

 

Ah, listening to this:

I can just say this now, as if I had the right

 

Maybe he was randomly hinting that he was eating Meatloaf? OR - maybe - since the song goes "I would do anything for LOVE" - he's hinting at being a Lover? *shrug* It's a mystery.

[Darthe]

Now, you all know my famous number theories and how effective they have been in the past...

 

1. Peacesells - Villager - Powerless - Killed N2

2. Bgrishinko

3. Despothera

4. Wombat - Sora's Mother - Powerless - Killed N1

5. Cloud

6. Misheru - Riku - Mafia Symp - Modkilled D2

7. Wolfbrotherkronos

8. Yates

9. Verbal

10. Tiinker - Villager - Powerless - Lynched D3

11. Krakalakachkn

12. Dapianoplay3r

13. Hallia

14. Darthe

15. TinaHel

16. DreadPirateRoberts - Darkside - Mafia Goon - Lynched D2

17. Graendals favourite

 

Thank god I am not going back to them.  I do find it interesting that the top four lynch candidates on most tongues the past day have been four people in a row.

[Darthe]

 

 

That reminds me, Yates trying to rolefish the Lovers claim from GF's posts pings a ton as well. I saw absolutely nothing in GF's posts to indicate a hint at that claim (including the one Yates quoted), and when called on it Yates claimed that GF was trying to claim Lover all over the place.

I don't see the hinting either, and am interested in hearing Yates on that one.

 

Where's the facepalm emoticon?

 

 

Ah, listening to this:

I can just say this now, as if I had the right

 

Maybe he was randomly hinting that he was eating Meatloaf? OR - maybe - since the song goes "I would do anything for LOVE" - he's hinting at being a Lover? *shrug* It's a mystery.

 

 

Gotcha!  I think that would be a weak breadcrumb tbh, but it could be possible.

[Yates]

@Yates:First things first. Do NOT misrepresent what I say in my cases, especially those against you. I NEVER said you knew Mish was a symp when I said you might have done that thing with her to derail DPR's lynch.

That wasn't a misrep. That was a response to you both.

 

My thesis was that you probably thought she was town when you faked the viewing. Mysh flipping symp instead of regular mafia means my point still stands: You could have been pushing a lynch of someone you didn't think was on your team to save another teammate's skin.

Your thesis needs a revision. I started the wagon on her because I thought she was scum when she claimed miller - as evidenced by the fact I stated my confirmation she was scum when she claimed miller.

 

A lot of your response to my case is taking stuff out of it's context to try and make it look weaker. For instance, you make it seem like my point about you pushing the "let's vet DPR instead" angle is disproven by DPR not flipping GF.

That's because it was.

 

Then in a separate point you address the Bus Driver supposition, and not very well I might add. How could a Bus Driver not make sense in the situation I'm describing? You get everyone to agree to try and vet DPR first. You Bus Drive him and another townie. Cop views DPR, gets a town reading. Simple. Furthermore, even if there wasn't any kind of redirect ability on the mafia team, you could have still been arguing to try and vet DPR just to stall his lynch. Another day alive means one less day a scummie could have been lynched. The more scum lynches the town misses on, the better for the scum team.

Ok. That's a fair point and one I didn't think of. I suppose that would be a plausable play and something I'd likely try. Though, and I think you and Darthe should both know this, that's a high risk low reward play. Frankly, after getting run up to L-1 and getting to no lynch, I *would* be surprised if DPR wasn't investigated N1 as confirmation of his alignment. So scum Yates pushing to verify an already verified scum doesn't make a whole lot of sense. And frankly, I pushed that angle [which you guys accused me of rolefishing for] knowing he was probably already vetted.

 

By the way - you didn't answer any of my questions.

 

Also by the way - when does a cop roleclaim? THIS needs to be answered.

 

I'd also like to point out a contradiction in your response. You say we made the wrong play on DPR period, that we were playing a gamble and got lucky. Yet when addressing my point about Mish potentially flipping town instead, you act like you did the right thing and there was no question.

What's the difference between a Miller claim and a Beloved Princess claim? Here's a hint...

Hey Tiink. You wanna claim?

 

Try for Lyncher, Miller, BP, VT, or the like. Those may help.

 

If you are a Miller, then the stunt you pulled with Mish WOULD have been a huge gamble, that could have blown up in your face. You had much less reason to suspect Mish as we had to suspect DPR, yet you act like you made the brilliant play while we were all lucky morons. Don't be so high and mighty man.

Ha! Funny joke. How would a miller flip "blow up in my face?" And how does that stack up versus two days of night?? At this point you are tunneling logic be damned.

 

Most of the rest of your response is pretty bad, for using silly stuff like smilies to try and support your defense.

Handwave. Example?

 

But I would also like to note that, like some of the other people have found scummy this game, your overblown responses clearly make you appear to be scrambling to me. The whyme fryme could easily apply to you too.

Oh you're right. Only scum defend themselves when they KNOW where the mob is headed. My bad.

 

And you're pushing dumb angles for who could be scum still. Hallia is derptown. Period. You're continuing to push that lynch just looks like you trying to find an easy target.

Prove it. She can't seem to. Though I'm sure her hammering Town will make me feel much warmer and fuzzier inside. Just because DPR was scum doesn't mean Hallia isn't. You and Darthe both need to let that sink in.

[Yates]

Gotcha!  I think that would be a weak breadcrumb tbh, but it could be possible.

If it's a breadcrumb, it's so totally obnoxiously in your face that I had to ask him about it the second time. The first time he posted it I just assumed he was rambling [like with all the movies he's going to watch]. The second time was a pattern. But he seemingly didn't post either of those in reference to an identifiable individual. Since he has been... confusing... I had to come straight out and ask. It didn't look like subtlety was going to work.

[bgrishinko]

So my phone won't let me scroll down on the last page for some reason. Did Nolder give us a flip yet?

[bgrishinko]

A cop claims when they have sufficient info to be helpful. That depends on the game and the person.

[bgrishinko]

Let me revise: When they have sufficient info to make a crippling blow. Obviously any info they can provide is useful. But as soon as they claim, roleblockers, bus drivers, and all kinds of bad things head their way crippling the effectiveness.

[Yates]

Agreed. Who are your top four?

Hallia - I'm not dropping this until/unless someone can give me an ACTUAL REASON to other than the fact she was the counterwagon to DPR [because *I* made her the counterwagon]

 

Verbal isn't a terrible vote. If I'm picking scum off the Tiinker wagon? I'd go there [even though I really want GF to be scum]. He's been doing a lot of buddying up to me recently and I feel like he's trying to tie his alignment to mine - which is no bueno. Kind of reminds me of this. He also jumped on the Hallia wagon pretty quick with a subpar excuse. At that point even *I* wasn't convinced I was going to stay there. I just wanted more information. Her stalling is 50% of the reason I stayed there.

 

I feel like one of Des/Tina is scum but not likely both. I'm currently leaning Des but that might be because I appreciated the backup from Tina re: GF being an enormous toolbag. Buddying doesn't work on me [usually the opposite - see above] but that seemed like a pro Town "stfu" post with a close deadline looming. The fact they were both on the Tiinker lynch makes it harder to parse. I just think Des is playing extremely opportunistic and Tina has been parroting a lot of his "thoughts" regardless of merit. Also, this whymefryme stuff is horse crap. I'm modding my first game ever and Town JUST went through that. This is the tail end of it where it is reduced to a sig bet, but I think you can see what I mean. I could probably point to 3 flailing Town for every flailing scum. Most often, the person pushing it is scum.

 

I don't really have a 4th. There has been a lot of sloppy/lazy/incoherent play and I'm not really digging it. Maybe 24 hour deadline? Maybe site meta? I don't know.

[Yates]

A cop claims when they have sufficient info to be helpful. That depends on the game and the person.

That was actually for Des - since I'm trying to make a point about his case.  But, uh, thanks?   

[dapianoplay3r]

God that was a messy day

Sorry I missed it, day broke just as I left for work and was over when I woke up today

 

Yates, something that stood out was I think in the middle of all that symp crap you mentioned an option that the mafia recruit mish. I thought that was weird. Strange that you think they could have a recruit

 

I approve of the despo and Darthe bromance

 

GF. Yea tomorrow you will regret a bunch methinks

 

Verb hasn't been that helpful and I think it was Darthe that referenced the RE game as an almost defence of him. Explain that please?

 

I think krak is ok

[bgrishinko]

 

A cop claims when they have sufficient info to be helpful. That depends on the game and the person.

That was actually for Des - since I'm trying to make a point about his case.  But, uh, thanks?   

 

 

 

Ah well. That makes sense. On the plus side, I can now see the last page. *reads result* Aw man.

[Verbal32]

Tbh once I saw Yates saying we should lynch Hallia or Tink I was starting to think Tink might be town. Didn't really have enough time for another lynch tho I don't think. Need more active voters.

Can you be more obvious on the backtracking? You sure all that emo with DPR wasn't forged?

 

I hope it was, because I've never seen a player whine as much as you. Talk about being unimpressed, lol.