Kingdom Hearts Mafia - Game 1 - Destiny Islands [Mafia Win!]

[Darthe]

Oh dear god :facepalm:

 

@DPR, why did you never respond to Yates questions?

[Darthe]

 

Because I'm a friggin Miller, that's why >.<

 

LOLTHIS AGAIN. Vote Mish

She's Dead Tiink, they're all dead.

[_CLOUD]

I'm also going to sleep now.

[Darthe]

^ **** you.

[peacesells]

Verbal also wasn't sure about Mish, but his explanations made more sense to me even though he was getting pretty defensive even after people unvoted from him. If he were mafia he could have just gone with the crowd and vote for Mish to gain town cred, but he stood around and waited for some better reactions from Mish who then got herself modkilled.

 

 

Actually, that's not true.  If Verbal is scum he wouldn't know that Mish was a symp.  He would gain town cred by "reasoning" out a miller claim. When she flipped town he would look all rosey.  Not by lynching the miller.

 

Verbal is scum.  He can die day 3 imo.

[Darthe]

^ you got the part about Mish right. I only semi-see the verb argument though.

[DPR]

Oh dear god :facepalm:

 

@DPR, why did you never respond to Yates questions?

 

I totally did. It's posted. 

 

Why do you lie?

[Darthe]

I have yet to lie this game Wes.

 

If you responded I didn't remember it when I asked. Ill go back and look.

[Krakalakachkn]

Vote Hallia

 

 

I'm not seeing a whole lot of effort from her at this point.  It looks like she's trying to stave off anything of merit in the hope that DPR is lynched quickly.  She posts a couple of "I think so and so is scummy" and then makes no case.

 

I've seen posts where players have attempted a lengthy defense in sight of a lynch, mostly in which they let their emotion run wild, and turned out scum.  I'm not sure why, but for the moment I'm reading DPR as exasperated and annoyed town.

 

Also, I'm not sure if/why Darthe is "Big Game Hunting," but I want to say that you seem to be blinding yourself to other possibilities and other players.  That's not exactly the most worthwhile activity.

 

 

 

So I'm only going to say this once because it's really stuck out to me the past few games I've played, and nobody probably cares too much about my opinion, but I'm tired of the childish back and forth "he said, she said" dynamic that seems to have come to the fore of play style. It reads like this bullshit democratic v republican dross that fills the US legislature these days. The point is to catch someone in a lie because it might lead to the lynching of mafia, not for the gleeful taunting or name-calling that seems to follow most of those situations.  Also not sure when defending oneself against accusations and questions was suddenly equated with being defensive.  It seems you can't defend without being scummy anymore.

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'll post more in a bit in response to what I see happening and players setting up meta, etc. But for now, I'm the Beloved Princess.

That's post 265 ^^

 

This is post 303 vv

 

 

My thoughts up to this point:

 

My role claim is what it is - you can like it, dislike it, do whatever you want with it. I'll admit to knowing zilch about Kingdom Hearts, which I'm sure will come to light sooner or later, so no use in pretending otherwise.

...

 

As for being accused of "fearmongering" ( I believe by Wombat) I pointed out the deadline because we need info. I'll tell you that from a Town perspective, it was a mistake to not lynch me - the Town needs info, and without it, we're going to lose. Missing any future lynches is a sure path to a Town loss.

 

I've tried to say all of this as flat as possible. It's just information. We need it to win.

This strikes me as a post about getting a lynch in IN GENERAL. Though I see what you are getting at...

 

@DPR - WTF are you talking about?

This is frustrating - nobody is even reading posts anymore.

 

My point above, again, is that the Town cannot afford to let a day pass without a lynch. The only 100% confirmed info we get is from the mod upon death. Everything else is speculatory to one degree or another.

 

I fight against my own lynch because I know that I'm Town and I know I'm a BP. Lynch me and the Town loses a member (meh at this point) and night lasts for two-cycles (not so great). It would be very un-Town of me to not fight against my lynch. And it would be weird...

 

Why is Yates the only one stating the obvious - I'm in the bag at this point and not going anywhere. You have my claim and it is such that I can't talk my way out of it. A cop can view me, likely already has, and to FEAR MONGER by implying that we don't have a cop, or that we have some ultra-convuluted situation is just scummy as hell.

 

There are others who have acted scummy. IMO, Despo has been the definition of scum. Darthe has played scummy, and Yates does make a logical case against Hallia.

 

Hopefully all of this makes sense.

Oh gosh, I did see this! Never mind.

[DPR]

I can understand fighting right now, there's still hours to go. I can understand fighting earlier yesterday, still many hours to go.

 

But explain to me why it was in town's best interest to not self vote 5-10 minutes before deadline yesterday? How in any way did that help town? Day 1 was a wash with no info and mafia gets a free kill. We are still down 1 day phase.

 

If you are telling the truth and you'd died at least WE'D KNOW THAT, the mafia gets a free kill and we are down 1 day phase. I'm not about to just let is slide and then let the cop come out and some point and tell me whether you were telling the truth or not. NA's are all anciliarry to the core game of hunting scum. They are tools, not crutches.

 

I've had a Makers Mark. Okay, I've had two - things are more calm now.

 

BG, I will try to explain this again:

 

By not self voting, I preserved a member of the Town (myself). I also prevented the mafia from making 2 kills instead of 1 (my death = free mafia kill).

 

You misrepresent the entire situation when you state above that the mafia got a free kill - they were going to get that anyway. So when you woke up this morning, there was only 1 dead Townie.

 

If I had voted myself, you would have woken up to 3 dead Townies (me by lynch, Wombat and 1 other through NK).

 

Do you see now? 

 

You, perhaps unwittingly, are playing against the Town - not me.

 

It's pretty common procedure (at least it used to be...) to run up a couple of trains, get a couple of reveals, have a PR test them to see who's telling the truth, and move on form there.

 

Yes, the Town should have made a lynch yesterday - but after I revealed, it definitely did not need to be me. You should have immediately moved on to get another player to reveal and then you'd have two players locked down and choices.

 

Instead, you and the rest of the sheep have let the mafia off the hook by indulging in complete tunnel vision towards me. I'm already trapped - I got nowhere to go. The smart Town move is to move on and keep hunting. I keep trying to tell you this and you keep not hearing me.

 

Meanwhile, Darthe has outright lied several times and I'm calling him on it. But you're not looking into that, are you? You don't even want to take just a moment to maybe see if something is up. Hell, you've probably already stopped reading before this point so that you can explain to me why Town should self-vote. The mafia is out there to kill the Town, genius. Town doesn't need to kill themselves.

[DPR]

I have yet to lie this game Wes.

 

If you responded I didn't remember it when I asked. Ill go back and look.

 

Mom? MOM!!! I freaking knew it...

[Darthe]

Leak, the problem is that DPR could individually be lynched for his play or his role claim and yet because he is DPR you newer people won't get on the fugging lynch. "Big Game Hunting" as you called it is an excuse to blow off my casework and pushes on the person who is, by far, the scummiest person in the game IMHO.

 

Who would waste time on someone they considered less worthwhile?

 

Attempting to lynch Hallia at this point is not only counter productive but useless.

 

Beyond which, the logic that we can wait on DPR's lynch in the hopes of a PR fixing it later is a stalling tactic. It's not even a very effective one. I've already pointed out that this could be circumvented and even if he does get viewed as mafia it then wastes two days (now) and an outted PR on someone whose play has frankly been subpar.

 

Thus, your thoughts, while genuine in appearance and appreciated, don't hold up.

 

@DPR, 5 hours left. Gonna let the day go no lynch to save your hide again? That's twice the damage your role would have caused.

[DPR]

Leak, the problem is that DPR could individually be lynched for his play or his role claim and yet because he is DPR you newer people won't get on the fugging lynch. "Big Game Hunting" as you called it is an excuse to blow off my casework and pushes on the person who is, by far, the scummiest person in the game IMHO.

 

Who would waste time on someone they considered less worthwhile?

 

Attempting to lynch Hallia at this point is not only counter productive but useless.

 

Beyond which, the logic that we can wait on DPR's lynch in the hopes of a PR fixing it later is a stalling tactic. It's not even a very effective one. I've already pointed out that this could be circumvented and even if he does get viewed as mafia it then wastes two days (now) and an outted PR on someone whose play has frankly been subpar.

 

Thus, your thoughts, while genuine in appearance and appreciated, don't hold up.

 

@DPR, 5 hours left. Gonna let the day go no lynch to save your hide again? That's twice the damage your role would have caused.

 

Well, I'm sure as that as the spokesperson for Ubertown, you'd like to offer yourself up and save the day, no?

 

I tell you what - you self vote. I'll vote for you next, and together we'll do some good for the Town!

 

How does that sound you scummymotherf*****? 

[Graendals favourite]

Personally I'm not very eager to leave a cop or a similar role such an "obvious" viewee for the the night. In my games as cop, I think I would never view him in such a situation, certain I would be roleblocked or something more nasty that way; this is an advanced game. And a cop outing oneself for one person, whom we can furthermore just as well lynch cause he's been suspicious enough? Madness, I say.

[Darthe]

^ Truth here.

 

Personally, as a cop I would only view those that I thought wouldn't get lynched, those who look most likely to slip by etc. options 1 and 2 on my list (cop viewing another person, DPR having an ability that messes with views or the like) were both valid IMO and more so than DPR getting viewed so the cop could out themselves.

[Tiinker]

Unvote, Vote Hallia

 

 

 

Ya know, just for the sake of ticking Darthe off.   

 

Bed time.

[Darthe]

 

@DPR, 5 hours left. Gonna let the day go no lynch to save your hide again? That's twice the damage your role would have caused.

Well, I'm sure as that as the spokesperson for Ubertown, you'd like to offer yourself up and save the day, no?

 

I tell you what - you self vote. I'll vote for you next, and together we'll do some good for the Town!

 

How does that sound you scummymotherf*****?

To translate DPRs answer for the rest of you, he said no.

[Darthe]

Unvote, Vote Hallia

 

 

 

Ya know, just for the sake of ticking Darthe off.

 

Bed time.

If I had two bullets I would shoot DRP and myself so that I didn't have to be In the same game with you.

 

Kidding, but plays like this are directly anti town. You've decided to go against the lynch and then leave with only hours til deadline for no purpose save to annoy another player?

 

DPR is totally getting his team to support him. We break him, we get info on everyone.

[Darthe]

I forgot how awesome The Walking Dead is until just now.

[Tiinker]

 

Unvote, Vote Hallia

 

 

 

Ya know, just for the sake of ticking Darthe off.

 

Bed time.

If I had two bullets I would shoot DRP and myself so that I didn't have to be In the same game with you.

 

Kidding, but plays like this are directly anti town. You've decided to go against the lynch and then leave with only hours til deadline for no purpose save to annoy another player?

 

DPR is totally getting his team to support him. We break him, we get info on everyone.

 

You seem to have missed the sarcasm. I obviously voted for what I think to be the better lynch candidate. I'm pretty sure Hallia is ahead of DPR in the lynch now. You tunnel brah. I'm out. <3

[Darthe]

Days not over yet. I think he is at L-2 And no clue about her because the mod is being slow

[Darthe]

DPR is L-3

Hally is L-2

 

Dammit you guys are ******* idiots.

[Verbal32]

 

 

 

Verbal also wasn't sure about Mish, but his explanations made more sense to me even though he was getting pretty defensive even after people unvoted from him. If he were mafia he could have just gone with the crowd and vote for Mish to gain town cred, but he stood around and waited for some better reactions from Mish who then got herself modkilled.

 

Actually, that's not true. If Verbal is scum he wouldn't know that Mish was a symp. He would gain town cred by "reasoning" out a miller claim. When she flipped town he would look all rosey. Not by lynching the miller.

 

Verbal is scum. He can die day 3 imo.

Damn dude. I love you too, but there are people watching!

 

Don't you get it? I LOSE town cred by not following the auto-lynch miller rule. I expressed hesitation, and was called down by people almost immediately. I'd want people dead any which way I can get them if scum - what easier and cleaner lynch than a freakin' miller?! I'm not sticking my neck out there like that....it's just too damn pretty to be in a noose.

[peacesells]

meh..usually 1/2 the team pile on and 1/2 look for ways for cred.  You were looking for cred.