Merlin Mafia [Advanced!]- Town Wins!!!

[Tigraine]

I'm old but rusty? Lol. Thanks for the ego boost :P

[Thorum]

"Zombie" is probably a better description for my ancientness, seeing I've been dead for a year.

 

 

And you're not that much less old than I am, aren't you?

[WWWwombat]

The difference between an experienced group of seasoned vets and a bunch of washed up has-beens is worth about .125 on a regular season winning percentage.

[Thorum]

I'm not old.  I'm well seasoned.

But you still haven't become bob :)

[peacesells]

lol..at "creaky bones get off his lawn."

[Tigraine]

So am I a washed up has been?

[Krakalakachkn]

I'll try to be as clear as I can.  I have no beef with you or any dealings, mentionings, or uses regarding the word vig specifically.  It was the overly helpful manner and overplay of "I'm town, let me show you" that made me suspect.

 

My vig conversation was solely with lolguy and Tiinker - it didn't reflect your conversation on the same topic.

 

 

So it's not scummy when you answer a question meant for someone else but it IS when I do it?

 

As far as the above quote, I did answer a question meant for someone else, unlike you who actually posed the question asking "why would they kill a vig/sk?"  You did not answer a question meant for someone else, at least, not as far as my statements were concerned.

 

 

My resulting statement was then, responding again to the quote above, that it very well can be scummy for one person to answer a question meant for someone else, but that it's not scummy for every person and every scenario.  If Wombat were acting very scummy and most thought so, Tiinker posed a direct question, and Basel came out of nowhere to answer it for Wombat....well, that might be more suspect than me answering a question for Tiinker on the topic of a vig.

 

 

 

No I know what you meant. It's just not true.

then why ?

 

Vig is more likely to hit town, at least at first.

 

 

Vig is more likely to hit town, at least at first.

My point exactly!! So why the vote on me if you agree with that point?

 

 

 

In fact, I never stated exactly why/how I found you scummy enough to vote for you (at that time).  It was you who linked my vote on you with your vig statements (as seen above).

[WWWwombat]

"Zombie" is probably a better description for my ancientness, seeing I've been dead for a year.

 

 

And you're not that much less old than I am, aren't you?

 

I'm new compared to you and Peace.  My first forum game was Talya's Christmas game in 2009:

 

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/42559-mafia-a-christmas-tale-mafia-won/

[WWWwombat]

So am I a washed up has been?

 

Only if you lose.  The Spurs give me hope.

[Tigraine]

Okay, so why the vote then? Because I'm trying to look pro town?

[Krakalakachkn]

You came across as trying too hard; I don't like how it read.  You were my first scum read of day two, so I voted for you.  

 

 

Just think of the pages of conversation that exist on us now.  We're practically dating.

[peacesells]

Krak..answering a question for someone else is not a scum tell...it's just a very poor play.  There are reasons people are asked questions specifically because and answer is wanted for them.  It's dumb for a town player to ruin that opportunity by inserting themselves into that.

[WWWwombat]

lol..at "creaky bones get off his lawn."

 

You are my favorite irascible old coot of DM mafia.

[Tiinker]

Krak..answering a question for someone else is not a scum tell...it's just a very poor play.  There are reasons people are asked questions specifically because and answer is wanted for them.  It's dumb for a town player to ruin that opportunity by inserting themselves into that.

He didn't say scum tell though.

[michellem]

Lol fairly new? I've been playing here for almost a year, and I think I'm closing in on 30 games.

[peacesells]

 

As far as the above quote, I did answer a question meant for someone else, unlike you who actually posed the question asking "why would they kill a vig/sk?"  You did not answer a question meant for someone else, at least, not as far as my statements were concerned.

 

 

My resulting statement was then, responding again to the quote above, that it very well can be scummy for one person to answer a question meant for someone else, but that it's not scummy for every person and every scenario.  If Wombat were acting very scummy and most thought so, Tiinker posed a direct question, and Basel came out of nowhere to answer it for Wombat....well, that might be more suspect than me answering a question for Tiinker on the topic of a vig.

 

[Tiinker]

Yeah? Saying something is a scum tell means that it's scummy in the vast vast majority of scenarios. That statement says it can and can't be, just depends on the context, hence the example. 

[Tiinker]

Krak..answering a question for someone else is not a scum tell...it's just a very poor play.  There are reasons people are asked questions specifically because and answer is wanted for them.  It's dumb for a town player to ruin that opportunity by inserting themselves into that.

 

If you attribute it to "dumb play", are you saying it doesn't affect your read on the player's alignment?

[Tigraine]

You said this in one of your posts...

 

 

 

"My vig conversation was solely with lolguy and Tiinker - it didn't reflect your conversation on the same topic."

 

I didnt want a WoT

 

Anyway, the WHOLE reason they were having this discussion was because of MY opinion that killing a vig/sk was a bad idea.

[Krakalakachkn]

A case of mistaken conversation, then.

[WWWwombat]

Lol fairly new? I've been playing here for almost a year, and I think I'm closing in on 30 games.

 

That's fairly new imo.  Nothing wrong with it though.

[Darthe]

Ironic.  I started playing here in February 2012.  But sure, Vet

[Tyler Glembo]

Just caught up. 

 

Let's see - I voted Wombat yesterday, brought up a moderately slim D1 case on him which can be added too.  Wombat never responded.  Today he votes me, says I'm scum because I disagreed with Basel's train yesterday and was hoping to jumpstart a different one with 10 hours left.  His case on me is bad for multiple reasons:  a) there was plenty of time left  b) I don't vote for people I don't think are scummy just because it is the largest train unless it is the only way to avoid a missed deadline and c) I came back and hammered Basel anyways when it was clear it was either Basel or a missed deadline. 

 

Anyways, now that I've caught up, Razen looks incredibly scummy, Wombat is looking slightly better today than yesterday though still a scum lean, Thorum looks town to me, especially with the push on Hally for a character claim, Despo looks to be scumhunting, Mish is pinging but I can't put my finger on why so I need to do an Iso on her, Alanna is still scummy, leaning town on Tiinker and peace and notbob, and chuckles looks scummy.

 

vote Razen

[Darthe]

Sweet salty Christ I am finally down to three games and one mod.  Needless to say, I am honored to be here and will be bringing the awesome.

 

 

/yourwelcome

[Darthe]

Just caught up. 

 

Let's see - I voted Wombat yesterday, brought up a moderately slim D1 case on him which can be added too.  Wombat never responded.  Today he votes me, says I'm scum because I disagreed with Basel's train yesterday and was hoping to jumpstart a different one with 10 hours left.  His case on me is bad for multiple reasons:  a) there was plenty of time left  b) I don't vote for people I don't think are scummy just because it is the largest train unless it is the only way to avoid a missed deadline and c) I came back and hammered Basel anyways when it was clear it was either Basel or a missed deadline. 

 

Anyways, now that I've caught up, Razen looks incredibly scummy, Wombat is looking slightly better today than yesterday though still a scum lean, Thorum looks town to me, especially with the push on Hally for a character claim, Despo looks to be scumhunting, Mish is pinging but I can't put my finger on why so I need to do an Iso on her, Alanna is still scummy, leaning town on Tiinker and peace and notbob, and chuckles looks scummy.

 

vote Razen

 

I would be interested in that Iso.  Wombat looks fine and who teh helz is Razen?