Ghost Mafia - 3 out of 33 survive - Town wins!

[hazelkrs1]

So I AM in this game after all lol. I still don't have my role/alignment pm, so for now I'll start catching up under the presumption that I am third party unlynchable unkillable Survivor. Should be a challenge.

[berf]

So I AM in this game after all lol. I still don't have my role/alignment pm, so for now I'll start catching up under the presumption that I am third party unlynchable unkillable Survivor. Should be a challenge.

 

[berf]

Anyway in the interest of a lynch this hour unvote vote Vambram

 

Missed the deadline last time, not going to let that happen twice.

[hazelkrs1]

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUu just read the rules. Sorry DPR :(

 

Although I feel like crap now, I wish you had made it clear to me in the pm I sent you. Damn.

[Ithillian Turambar]

@ Red. 12.17am 18/05/13

 

@ Despo. It was curious the first time, funny the second - third is pushing it. You might want to check out a Rule 3

 

@ Everyone. Tuesday is my RDO. Am heading out for adventure shortly. Looks like it might be a nice day.

[hazelkrs1]

 

So I AM in this game after all lol. I still don't have my role/alignment pm, so for now I'll start catching up under the presumption that I am third party unlynchable unkillable Survivor. Should be a challenge.

 

 

 

 

If I don't get modkilled or something, it is possible that he just hadn't sent the pm yet or something.... yeah I'm grasping at straws, but what do you expect? I prob just missed out on a chance to play in a most likely epic DPR mafia game.

 

*sob*

[Ithillian Turambar]

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUu just read the rules. Sorry DPR :(

 

Although I feel like crap now, I wish you had made it clear to me in the pm I sent you. Damn.

This is what happens when you are a lazybones.

[Ithillian Turambar]

 

 

 

 

So I AM in this game after all lol. I still don't have my role/alignment pm, so for now I'll start catching up under the presumption that I am third party unlynchable unkillable Survivor. Should be a challenge.

 

If I don't get modkilled or something, it is possible that he just hadn't sent the pm yet or something.... yeah I'm grasping at straws, but what do you expect? I prob just missed out on a chance to play in a most likely epic DPR mafia game.

 

*sob*

I'm supposed to be having a shower and getting ready but now I am curious about what you have done?

 

Have you sent him a snippy PM?

 

If it's just the no sassing rule I wouldn't worry. I sassed plenty and am still alive.

[berf]

 

 

So I AM in this game after all lol. I still don't have my role/alignment pm, so for now I'll start catching up under the presumption that I am third party unlynchable unkillable Survivor. Should be a challenge.

 

 

 

 

If I don't get modkilled or something, it is possible that he just hadn't sent the pm yet or something.... yeah I'm grasping at straws, but what do you expect? I prob just missed out on a chance to play in a most likely epic DPR mafia game.

 

*sob*

 

 

You won't get modkilled, but you have just bought the ire of twenty-odd players against you.

 

Swing in just before a lynch, claim the no-role-pm for a town wash (thinking, it couldn't possibly be a gambit on the third try, could it?), start clean for the third day... Hrmm. 

[hazelkrs1]

@ Red. 12.17am 18/05/13

 

@ Despo. It was curious the first time, funny the second - third is pushing it. You might want to check out a Rule 3

 

@ Everyone. Tuesday is my RDO. Am heading out for adventure shortly. Looks like it might be a nice day.

 

Others did the same thing? What happened in their respective cases (do I still have hope?!)

 

 

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUu just read the rules. Sorry DPR :(

 

Although I feel like crap now, I wish you had made it clear to me in the pm I sent you. Damn.

This is what happens when you are a lazybones.

 

 

Dunno if it would be kosher to fully explain the misunderstanding, but suffice it to say that this didn't happen on account of me being lazy.

[dapianoplay3r]

Oh for the love of god

 

Can't anyone read anymore?

[hazelkrs1]

@Ithi: You know what I did. Didn't realize others made the same mistake tho.

 

@Berfs: Sweeeeeeet so others have done it to. Well then it's just wifom, and mebbe I can play after all. Or like I said, it's possible that I'm not town and it just slipped DPR's mind to send me Ishy's PM or something. I remember a couple other things slipping DPR's mind in the Spider Country game

 

So erm... should I wait to see if there is mod punishment coming? What happened to the other 2? Should I try to catchup after all?

[Ithillian Turambar]

When DPR responded to whoever said he should MK Ishy and the inactives, he said he didn't think we would really want him to kill Townies.

 

Despo - I don't think anyone got a PM at the start of the Game. We were all Town and have the photo to prove it.

 

Some of us have been given items since though and there were a confirmed two possessed at the last hour change over.

 

 

EP and Nolder have had their photo's taken again since and are still human.

 

Turin and Lily got killed.

[Ithillian Turambar]

@Ithi: You know what I did. Didn't realize others made the same mistake tho.

 

@Berfs: Sweeeeeeet so others have done it to. Well then it's just wifom, and mebbe I can play after all. Or like I said, it's possible that I'm not town and it just slipped DPR's mind to send me Ishy's PM or something. I remember a couple other things slipping DPR's mind in the Spider Country game

 

So erm... should I wait to see if there is mod punishment coming? What happened to the other 2? Should I try to catchup after all?

Well I didn't think you were getting so melodramatic over just doing that lol - so I thought you must have done something else.

 

[peacesells]

Back from Cloudflare and caught up.

 

UNVOTE VOTE VAM.

 

 

 

Red likes the tunnel doesn't she.  Red, can you please present your case against me in full instead of making unbacked up insinuations/comments while presenting cases against others.  I mean...you keep saying I'm scum while pointing out everyone but my scummy actions.

 

 

[dapianoplay3r]

Talya case

 

Right so Talyas first post

Starts by saying happy birthday to lily

Then calls Leelou out for the following of wombat with an ithi vote. Talya calls it lazy.

She agree with Turin that EP (maybe Wombat?) is worth noting for role fishing. Pushes the idea of a team of mafia (so pre possession ideas of mafia)

Then turns her attention to peace for going of ape for the third vote rather than "starting a train with someone on iths Lynch" to get reactions.

Then she calls Mish out for her posting with a migraine and using it as a reason not to vote, but still posting. She ends with "I hope you aren't going to use this as an excuse for something you have said, later on!" (Her first ! Mark so far, weirdly silent on these this game I noticed on my read through. But I digress)

Moves on to Hally, and the role PM, doesn't seem pleased.

Follows up with Darthe, unsure if real or not.

Geodes cloud with a QT reference.

Then fluff.

Ends with TG, calls him out for defence of hally and fluff vote.

 

So she starts by actively looking for people and calling it where she sees it

 

Then mish got annoyed at the migraine thing, Talya retort. Slight back pedalling but I don't see anything in it TBH.

She quotes Darthe who was suggesting an Ishy Lynch and says "an Ishy lynch would be the same as a No Lynch"

I am getting town off her at this point. Given the currently knowledge available at this point in the game this seems an ok assumption for her to make as town.

She also pushes the idea that a QT is being used (but if there was 0 or one mafia at this point then there would be no QT. so I know it's oversimplification but I give her town points for now)

 

She still seems to be playing a town game here to me

 

Next she says go for an info lynch, not Ishy (restating). EP is an info lynch to her but neutral read. Ithi is a better lynch for info in Talyas opinion but only a slight scummy tell. Turin is scummy. Oddly she can't remember why but she thinks Verb is worth lynching.

She votes Turin

 

This looks to me like she is trying to scum hunt (guts says its genuine)

 

Talya comes back with a reason for Verb, (I like consistency) it's cos of his buddying to hally, safe vote on mish, and fluffing.

Talya defends her questioning of Mish.

Brings up Clouds past doc claim

 

Then Turin dies

 

She badgers Hally a bit

She calls no lynch a waste of time in this game (pre possession reveal)

 

Rands train picks up near the deadline.

 

Talya pushes hally some more but says she has a town read

Leads straight on with a go at peace who is defending hally too much (in her opinion)

She calls TG out on his theories of mafia voting habits

She ends with unsure on ithi, willing to vote TG or Peace, and looking back at Rand before she votes.

 

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Then DPR states there are 2 possessed.

At this point Talya is actively hunting and rarely confused. She changed her i game meta IMO from here (about the time of a recruit)

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So Talya appears after that reveal and her play changes a bit

 

This is Wombats post that got Nol making his mistake or slip

 

 

Vote: No Lynch

 

With only 2 mafia, I doubt that we will gain any significant info from a lynch. Given that the Possessed can add to their numbers at the expense of the town's numbers, I would rather not risk reducing the town's numbers until we have more info to work from or stand to gain more info from a lynch.

 

I can see how this makes sense, in that, if we don't lynch town we only lose one to the possession (if that is how it works), if we do lynch one then we lose on to lynch and one to mafia,..I think that is what he is trying to say

 

Ok I'll agree there are 2 possessed right now, DPR's language is clear on that count. That does not mean there are only 2 scum. There could easily be more than one scum team not to mention third parties.

 

What I don't understand Wombat is why you think we can't stop recruiting. How do you know there aren't a limited amount of recruitment opportunities? What if there is a cult leader and killing them stops the recruiting? Not sure if you're slipping or what but that doesn't add up at all.

 

This is Nol's response

So Talya seems ok with a No lynch, something I would of been a fan of during the day but we shall see how today goes before I make a judgement for tomorrow.

Also she slowly works to discredit a no lynch then suggest inactives from here

 

 

 

@ MOD, if there is no lynch achieved, are more people possessed? If there is a lynch does this effect the possession? What would happen in this respect if we all vote NO Lynch?

 

A No Lynch majority vote will only result in moving on to the next hour. There is no Mod penalty.

 

Your other questions are too vague to answer.

@ MOD - How many people are possessed (extra to those already possessed) at the end of an hour if no one is lynched?

 

How many people are possessed (extra to those already possessed) at the end of an hour if someone is lynched?

 

If a No lynch is achieved how many people are possessed (extra to those already possesed) at the end of an hour?

 

And can I have a shiney object too...I like shiney :-D

Then she starts with the questions that (I think it was) ape was so unfond of. Personally I don't mind that many questions but I do feel the difference of how she is playing. She is almost using the questions to avoid having it chase like she did before.

 

You talk too much...

 

Dap is slacking...he is usually a lot higher, maybe an ideal recruit? or maybe down the bottom, Kae or Kay, Vam or Tina?

 

Or you, same argument.

 

But yes my post count is rather abysmal thus far

 

In fact the last ones, I don't think have come up on anyone's mafia list. I could easily start there.

 

So she starts pushing for looking into people that haven't been FOSed yet. Back tracking a bit and not casing, just throwing out feelers

 

 

 

 

Current Vote Count:

 

TGlems (1) - Ape

Leelou (1) - Mish

No Lynch (1) - Wombat

Wombat (1) - Nolder

Nolder (4) - EP, Cloud, Peace, Hally

 

With 32 players, it takes 17 to lynch. The hour will turn on Tuesday, May 21, 9:00 am EST unless a lynch is reached first

So this is the vote count so far. We need to get a lynch by the end of today...

VOTE NOL

Deadline is Tuesday morning, do you think Nol is scum or are you rushing to vote?

I saw DPR write 9pm where he had written about how many had been possessed. I didn't check the count

So now she starts getting all confused

 

Everyone needs to visit the link Nol gave for DPR games and read the vampire hunter game. People die in this game so it is different but it will give you an idea.

I agree with this, and in that game quick voting was the key, but there were no deaths. That's why I think no lynch would of been a good option for the day potentially. It would mean we lose no one (bringing the mafia one step closer to winning [unless we get one of course]) but still get to use that camera or other roles to get info. Anyway

 

She keeps going with the confusion after this

 

At the moment we have two possessed. just two. As we all started out as town, it's going to be difficult to narrow that down, with the number of players we have at this stage. I would say there is a main recruiter, the chances of getting him are very slim indeed. But instead of picking bones about how someone said something. Look at a person who is most likely to have been recruited at the end of the last hour.

 

1. An inactive - someone here just enough to be seen so not totally out of it, but someone who hasn't been implicated.

2. Someone who claimed an item (yep Ithi). She claimed she had something before the end of the last hour. So another likely choice for a recruit.

 

I doubt it would be someone who was on the top end of the suspect list. The mafia want to get their numbers up and keep them up as soon as they can. If we go for the Goons, then it might lead back to the boss.

 

Rand was nearly lynched in the first hour, so the chances of him being recruited are slim (doesn't stop him being the recruiter I know).

 

So she continues to push the inactive thing (mafia in this game appear to recruit rather than NK so lynches are worth much more this game to them) she seems rather confident that the "boss" won't be lynched straight up.

She also says that the mafia need their numbers up, and unsaid, the towns down. At 3 mafia at most currently then no lynch is a good option (I know it's too late and I do like the Vam lynch, but it was a good choice). It keeps the town numbers up, the mafia at a lower percentage even after another recruit, and the roles for info

 

Tina - valid they could be juzt put a few ideas dowm and they were the first to come to mind

I however,do not class myself as big game

Has no one bothered to read tje vampire game

Ithi, as you revealed you had an object you would be prime candidate for recruiting.

Just puts down a few ideas. Different from yesterday when she was actively looking and casing. Also you are as big if not bigger game than I, with a similar post count. That's why you are as equally likely, following your own line of thinking, to be recruited as me.

Also she forgets that Ithi cannot me recruited (or is pretending she forgot) and is pushing the idea of lynching the one person that we know can help stop recruits (using narratives and ideas rather than cases like yesterday.

 

See what I mean about a change in style?

 

 

When did the first possessed come into being again?

 

We know it happened in the first hour. I'm guessing that they would have been possessed and they would have then been given the chance to recruit, once per hour. hence two at the end of hour 1.

 

As for Ithi, she mentioned she had an object in hour one. If someone was recruiting it would be a good person to recruit...the item could be useful to the possessed team. Ithi revealed the item and what it did in hour two. If she had been turned she could have added that bit, because it makes her look like she is town for a few days. I'm not saying that she has been recruited, because if she hasn't her object is very useful to town. But I don't blindly believe it all neither as some of you seem to be.

 

I thought I had Unvoted Nol ages ago...

 

Anyway I will now:

 

UNVOTE VOTE VAM

 

hasn't been on much then all of a sudden makes an appearance as though he is playing and then goes again.

 

@ Dap - I look forward to seeing your case on me.

She continues to push ithi

I wonder if that will change in the future

 

Also this case is a huge mess. But here it is lol. I've been writing it over 12 hours, between lectures and stuff. This is why I normally do it in one sitting

 

As for objects, I think Ithi is the first person that should be checked. If she is not possessed then we can trust her for a while. i also think that people should say what object they have had and what the result if any they had. Why - because we need as much information as possible. Then we can pick through and hopefully help us to Identify any possessed.

 

If she isn't possessed how can we trust her for awhile? Your whole current case on her is that she was confirmed so would be a perfect recruit. Now you say that if she was checked again she would be cleared for a while?

Looks to me like you want that check wasted on someone

 

@ EP, then how are we going to gather information, because we don't have much. Although I can see that they could claim objects and cause confusion, but it maybe a way of catching them out

 

Now it looks like Lily was killed by a ghost, I'm doubting Turin was.

 

Gather through roles till we have more info, or lynch you lol

But today was the no lynch day, time to move on from that I think

 

 

@ EP, then how are we going to gather information, because we don't have much. Although I can see that they could claim objects and cause confusion, but it maybe a way of catching them out

 

Now it looks like Lily was killed by a ghost, I'm doubting Turin was.

 

 

@ Nol. yes they would be possessed, but the head Ghostie I would expect.

 

Wow.... do you always muddle the shit out of the games? Seems to be an ongoing theme for you this one.

It seems to be a recent thing, since the day change...

Well more than before

Normally she just muddles sentences though

 

Actually this would be different if some are one shot, then yes they should tell us what they did. As the objects can move around then knowing what an object does is not so important than in a game where they have roles. It's the person who has it. And they should say anything until they have done what they have etc. Ithi's is different she claimed because she was on the lynch path.

 

Also we have now had two kills. If there is an object that has a killing power, is it a one off then moved on or does it stay with one play for a while like Ithi's. If it stays, it might suggest that whoever had the object yesterday may still have it today and got recruited over the hour...hence the difference in the scenes, one definitely killed by a ghost. It could be that the object moved this hour to someone else and they were a ghost.

 

I would of been happy for ithi not to claim, but she did have reason to being on the lynch path as you said

Then you start pushing a narrative (thank you for that ape, I like that phrase)

 

 

 

Actually this would be different if some are one shot, then yes they should tell us what they did. As the objects can move around then knowing what an object does is not so important than in a game where they have roles. It's the person who has it. And they should say anything until they have done what they have etc. Ithi's is different she claimed because she was on the lynch path.

 

Also we have now had two kills. If there is an object that has a killing power, is it a one off then moved on or does it stay with one play for a while like Ithi's. If it stays, it might suggest that whoever had the object yesterday may still have it today and got recruited over the hour...hence the difference in the scenes, one definitely killed by a ghost. It could be that the object moved this hour to someone else and they were a ghost.

 

What is the point of all the questions? All we need to know is that we've seen 1 death per "hour" in the game.

 

I don't understand the point of all this... feels like you are trying to deter from the goal of lynching.

What questions. We need to know more than there is 1 death an hour... That information could provide us clues to who the mafia. Lynching gives us the chance to prove that information. an Object was given out not long before Turin was killed. There is information in DPR's posts...so why don't we use it!

Lol !s are back

Also you are asking random questions, I'm not that against it but I'm not a fan, but you have stopped all that chasing and casing. That's a ping to me

 

 

I unvoted and voted for Vam.Vote Vam

Again.

Maybe Talya doesn't want to get viewed. EP was proven Human after Turin's death. Do you think EP used a Vig Kill on Turin @ Talya - is that what you are getting?

 

Not at all, I think the scene shows him investigating Turin's death.

 

@ Red, I'm not trying to discredit her at all, now you are twisting things, something you seem to be doing a lot of. She has a very powerful and helpful object, and so can be very helpful to town, if she is turn very unhelpful...so don't you think it would have been good to know for us that she is checked.

You are suggesting that she was recruited. I consider that a discredit....

Then you try to turn it to make red look scummy.

 

What will checking her prove? It lasts a phase and after that phase you will appear again with "she would be a perfect recruit, let's check her again!"

(Exclamation mark and everything)

Wasting checks IMO

 

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Ever read something you wrote and wonder what you were smoking. Yea I had that a bit from this mornings stuff lol

 

TL;DR : shame on you. But Talya changed her in game meta after the day changed and should be lynched

 

 

Also as a side, despo. I kinda stole your Wall of Text thing lol

[dapianoplay3r]

Dd it work?

 

It worked!

[John McClane]

First off, no idea the count but deadline looming... 

 

Unvote

Vote Vambram

[John McClane]

Okay, caught up again.  Interesting activity this game and a couple of important thoughts here:

 

First, to Ape.  This is how Red plays as town thus far, though she is a good strong candidate for recruitment.

 

Second, to all about Rand: based on recent events this very much appears to be a town Rand.

 

I am clueless about Vambram but his train is very contrived, especially how it built in the beginning.  With this said...

 

Our objective is ultimately to catch those who are anti-town, correct?  Yes, thus in this we must lynch.  Lynching is our main (perhaps only) method of removing those who we find most lacking from the game.  Thus we need kills regardless of alignment right now.  Why regardless of alignment?  Because the numbers are so far against us that our current goal is to weed out anyone and eliminate their confusion from the thread.  Thus killing obtuse players is advantageous.  The entire first half of this game is about gaining information.  Once the ghosts have sufficient numbers we will be able and effectively hunt them.  Until then we simply remove those of highest risk and if we happen to hit scum then that is an advantage to us.  Because if they recruit at the same pace we lynch we can't get ahead, ever.  Thus, their must be some limiting factor, recruiter, etc.  

 

This is the other point I want to mention.  Assuming that nobody who started was scum etc is only a disadvantage to us.  DPR has not stated otherwise, and without someone being scum to start 1) town would have immediately won, 2) I can't think of a way that recruiting would be limited save the mods discretion which can't happen in a non-bastard game, 3) assuming otherwise can screw us so badly at Lylo.

 

With this in mind I am clearly going to unvote vote vambram because we need death for now, but as of tomorrow we NEED to find the people who began to advocate and push the idea of no mafia from Day One and those should be our main targets.  

So, you get caught up, and the first thing you do is defend Red to me? How about you crawl back under your rock and let me play my game. 

 

 

So I AM in this game after all lol. I still don't have my role/alignment pm, so for now I'll start catching up under the presumption that I am third party unlynchable unkillable Survivor. Should be a challenge.

 

 

Relax. DPR already said we all started as town, which means NOBODY got a PM, no?

 

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUu just read the rules. Sorry DPR :(

 

Although I feel like crap now, I wish you had made it clear to me in the pm I sent you. Damn.

Don't sweat it, see above.

[The Crusher]

Ape pretty sure the people that supposedly started out with an item like supposedly ithilian did.  Nonetheless.   Pretty sure he's already hammered but I won;t be back on till later so...

 

unvote vote vam

[Leelou]

I'm pretty sure Vam is hammered, but in case he's not: 

 

unvote, vote Vam

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

LOA till tonight

[RandA lThor]

I think Vam is at L+4 right now...

[WWWwombat]

 

Okay, caught up again.  Interesting activity this game and a couple of important thoughts here:

 

First, to Ape.  This is how Red plays as town thus far, though she is a good strong candidate for recruitment.

 

Second, to all about Rand: based on recent events this very much appears to be a town Rand.

 

I am clueless about Vambram but his train is very contrived, especially how it built in the beginning.  With this said...

 

Our objective is ultimately to catch those who are anti-town, correct?  Yes, thus in this we must lynch.  Lynching is our main (perhaps only) method of removing those who we find most lacking from the game.  Thus we need kills regardless of alignment right now.  Why regardless of alignment?  Because the numbers are so far against us that our current goal is to weed out anyone and eliminate their confusion from the thread.  Thus killing obtuse players is advantageous.  The entire first half of this game is about gaining information.  Once the ghosts have sufficient numbers we will be able and effectively hunt them.  Until then we simply remove those of highest risk and if we happen to hit scum then that is an advantage to us.  Because if they recruit at the same pace we lynch we can't get ahead, ever.  Thus, their must be some limiting factor, recruiter, etc.  

 

This is the other point I want to mention.  Assuming that nobody who started was scum etc is only a disadvantage to us.  DPR has not stated otherwise, and without someone being scum to start 1) town would have immediately won, 2) I can't think of a way that recruiting would be limited save the mods discretion which can't happen in a non-bastard game, 3) assuming otherwise can screw us so badly at Lylo.

 

With this in mind I am clearly going to unvote vote vambram because we need death for now, but as of tomorrow we NEED to find the people who began to advocate and push the idea of no mafia from Day One and those should be our main targets.  

So, you get caught up, and the first thing you do is defend Red to me? How about you crawl back under your rock and let me play my game. 

 

 

Quit stealing my material.

 

/JiF'd

[DPR]

"He's a nice guy - he's just freaked out like the rest of us."

 

"I don't want to hear that! Did you read the newspaper articles about this place? have you seen the websites and heard the rumors?! We shouldn't have come here..."

 

"Now you're just being melodramatic. Look, no one knows exactly what happened to Turin, but let's give it the benefit of the doubt. Okay?"

 

"And Lily? What about her?"

 

There is no time to answer. Heated arguments arise from a large room off of the kitchen and by the time you arrive, a rope has been thrown over one the rafters.

 

"Hey! We need to calm down!"

 

You get pushed from behind and sneered at by several people around you.

 

"You need shut-up and help. Or else people might think you've gone and gotten possessed yourself."

 

In the end, there seemed to be little choice. Vambram tried to calmly explain himself, then he put on a stoic face. He wouldn't lower himself to appease the mob.

 

The rope is hoisted, the floorless tap-dance is performed and then there were only 30 players left.

 

VAMBRAM, TOWN, IS DEAD