Ghost Mafia - 3 out of 33 survive - Town wins!

[Hallia]

What I'm willing to bet is that the people voting Turin are town.  And Ithi's town; what would seem smart to me is for them to kill one train with a bunch of townies on it, thus nudging us townies to join them on a lynch on another townie.

[Nolder]

What I'm willing to bet is that the people voting Turin are town.  And Ithi's town; what would seem smart to me is for them to kill one train with a bunch of townies on it, thus nudging us townies to join them on a lynch on another townie.

Not sure I follow you. How did you reach that conclusion?

[Nolder]

Current Vote Count:

 

Mish (1) - Verb

Peace (1) - EP

Ape (1) - Rand

Ishy (2) - Tress, Darthe

EP (3) - Ithi, NB, TGlems

Ithi (5) - Crush, Ape, Leelou, Lily, Red

Hallia (1) - Kae

Kae (1) - Turin

Verbal (1) - Tina

 

With 33 players, it takes 17 to lynch. The hour turns May 19th,  9:00 am.

Is this accurate?

[peacesells]

 

What I'm willing to bet is that the people voting Turin are town.  And Ithi's town; what would seem smart to me is for them to kill one train with a bunch of townies on it, thus nudging us townies to join them on a lynch on another townie.

Not sure I follow you. How did you reach that conclusion?

 

Read the rest of her statement..looks pretty clear.

[peacesells]

VOTE WOMBAT

[Hallia]

It's just theory.  It sounds smart to me if I was mafia; two competing trains, both on town.  The town start piling on to one particular person(turin) and so the mafia get on another person (ithi's got the highest) and so they kill turin.  With him dead, and people still wanting to lynch one of the the two, Ithi's the next logical step (unless something is done to change that.)  So the town hop on that train and lynch Ithi.  When she flips town, everyone would look at the last few people to join the lynch (Which I see most commonly.)

[_CLOUD]

It's just theory.  It sounds smart to me if I was mafia; two competing trains, both on town.  The town start piling on to one particular person(turin) and so the mafia get on another person (ithi's got the highest) and so they kill turin.  With him dead, and people still wanting to lynch one of the the two, Ithi's the next logical step (unless something is done to change that.)  So the town hop on that train and lynch Ithi.  When she flips town, everyone would look at the last few people to join the lynch (Which I see most commonly.)

 

My only issue with your theory is that I doubt the mafia will pile on a person this early in the game, especially in a game this big.

[_CLOUD]

nvm

 

 

[RandA lThor]

 

@Mod, no PM

 

 

Awesome.  Darth is town.

 

I think I know Darthe fairly well, and he wouldn't even think of doing something like this as mafia.  Obviously there is a WIFOM aspect, but I am leaning town on Darthe right now.

 

Verbal is chatty like an over-eager nerd in line to meet George Takei. 99.98% scum read right now.

Yeah, I remember him in some of those JN games, didn't talk too much.  Maybe cuz its a DPR game?  No, he was quiet during the Jaws game as well.  Doesn't sit well with me.

 

 

 

@Mod, no PM

 

 

Awesome.  Darth is town.

 

 

Worst wifom of all time.

 

Eh, I've seen much worse here.  This isn't too bad.

 

Happy Birthday Lily, hope you are having a good one!

 

Gotta follow the Wombat <3 <3

 

unvote, vote Ithi

 

Don't like this vote, just following someone else is lazy

 

Leelou generally votes like this in the beginning of the game, then she gets into it later in the day or on day 2.

 

EP looking to use meta for defense. Nice.

 

 

Big reaction to Ithi voting EP.

 

Wombat, was that a role hint with all that tomfoolery about coils and such?

 

already noted, but this did look like he was role fishing, when we know there aren't any as town...as someone else said he could be mafia, he did go quieter after this, maybe someone mentioned it to him on the QT

 

 

 

It's about time, now we can have an epic peace vs ep arguement for old times sake

 

I'm ready.

 

Current Vote Count:

 

Mish (1) - Cloud

RTE (1) - Nolder

Peace (1) - NotBob

Ape (1) - Rand

NotBob (1) - EP

Ishy (1) - Tress

EP (2) - Ithi, Turin

Ithi (4) - Crush, Wombat, Ape, Leelou

Turin (1) - Kronos

 

With 33 players, it takes 17 to lynch. The hour turns May 19th,  9:00 am.

 

VOTE APE

 

For being the 3rd voter.  3rd voter is a great place for scum to hide.

 

 

Actually trying to start a train with someone on Ithi's lynch would have been a good idea, and see the reactions, not just pull out the old third vote thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Care to give any original thought on why instead of just quoting others?

To Leelou

 

Turin - for his role fishing

Ithi and EP to do with how they are reacting to each other and votes on them. 

Also could go for NotBob since he hasn't said I'm scummy yet. 

 

And how about you, any votes yet? You don't know the way I play. FYI - I'm quite spammy until I settle into the game.

Turin, I could agree, it feels like he forgot not everyone has role PMs (because he has one) and made a mistake there. EP and Ithi I feel like are jus doing their regular thing so far.

 

I know I don't know the way you play, it's why I'm asking.

 

I'm not even gonna think about voting right now, I'm half drunk and have a migraine

 

 

so you have a migraine and drunk and not going to think about voting and making Apple pie...I had someone mention to me about having a migraine in another game, because I couldn't do anything, and they complained about people always saying they have a headache, for someone with a migraine you are doing a pretty good job of posting a lot and defending yourself. Most people wouldn't be able to do much on here if they had a migraine. I hope you aren't going to use this as an excuse for something you have said, later on!

 

I normally do first; but I saw the game had started and panicked.  I've never seen not getting one be a rule before.  Consider me thoroughly chastened at move along.

 

If you didn't have a PM and didn't read the rules and see it, why didn't you PM the Mod, that is the first thing I would have done. Except you came on here saying you hadn't had one. 

 

@Mod, no PM

 

not sure if you are taking the mickey out of hally, if not, the same I said to her applies to you and you are trying to make yourself look town

 

I think Darthe is just claiming to be town.

 

Did he tell you that on the QT?

 

On all of the above, it is fairly common to see people post it on the game thread instead of send a role PM.  That way they won't have two PMs with the mod.  Not really a tell.

 

 

Quick question to any/all:

 

Why do so many of your signatures say "bonded to _____"?

 

How do you get bonded?

We generally use rope.

 

 

Handcuffs...

 

also, for voting Hallia, a newer player who likely made a legit mistake and outed herself as town, vote Kae

 

Hally, seems to have been new in quite a lot of games, I think the newbie stance is long past. This seems a nothing vote on something which we don't know about, unless you are defending Hally or know she is town and making yourself look town. 

Yeah, you're pretty much on spot on what you always do.  

 

I agree.

 

Vote Verbal

Oh god... get behind the Ape without doubt.

 

Dorks, you are doing it wrong.

 

Vote Verbal or Ithillian. Nobody else. 

Verbal kind of... really feeling the Ithi vote though.

 

This EP jester routine is really getting on my nerves.

This is how EP always plays... it gets on everyone's nerves.

 

You aren't stirring the pot

 

You are being like that yuppie kid in the kitchen who gets in everyone's way and begs for food

Yup, that's how I remember him playing.

 

 

 

 

This EP jester routine is really getting on my nerves.

good then I'm doing what I intended, I stir the pot, it's what I do. Do you have things to hide that you might slip and say if you're agitated?

The most likely result of this course of action is that I stop reading your posts.

 

 

Why not just lynch his ass?

 

You're joking right?  Please tell me you're joking.  Did you just say to lynch him because he's annoying?

[RandA lThor]

 

 

 

 

 

 

This EP jester routine is really getting on my nerves.

good then I'm doing what I intended, I stir the pot, it's what I do. Do you have things to hide that you might slip and say if you're agitated?

The most likely result of this course of action is that I stop reading your posts.

Why not just lynch his ass?

I'd prefer to make a more informative lynch first. If I'm ever stymied as to who to vote for though...

 

Yup, thank you.

 

 

lord have mercy, I have to switch to icky mobile version to post. well, so long as I can post.

 

Vote: Ithi

 

 

 

Ithi - is coming off as scum, she's encouraging EP and has her fingers in many pots. reeks of nudging an easy lynch imo

 

Turin - not sure if fishing or not, it was rather blatant

 

Halia & Darthe - worth looking into

 

Verb - <3

 

EP - is being his normalself; which means a distraction and giving the scum stuff to work with and on the fast track to lynchville

 

Mish - is another candidate for pressure. very defensive post and points Verb made were good

 

Wombat - I find myself agreeing with, which means he's scum

 

 

now, to my notes; in a new fashion. don't like it, refer to Apes rule. the # refers to the post number.

 

 

#19 - Ape: over explains his vote on Verb.

 

#25 - EP: attempting to look town. also, Verb and Bob had 1 vote a peice on them, as did 4 other people. why are you exaggerating the amount of votes on them, shifting focus onto them and singling them out?

 

#27 - Ithi - though i agree the post is ping worthy, this latching on and aggressive attachment to it pings even more.

 

#50 - Womby - Venkman is that you?? 

 

#52 & #54 - Post 1 & Post 2 - Ape: sets up that he can vote Ithi, but waits for WOmby to vote her to justif his vote and wagon. linkage much?

 

#57 - EP: quick vote changing noted. feels like another Failtastic EP plan on the way. actions still ping, but he’s becoming a distraction rather than pinging as scum.

 

#69 - Halia: this post pings greatly. either you’re a very bad skimmer of rules or you’re attempting to pull an obvious gambit. either way, huge ping.

 

#76 - Womby: funny and insightful post is funny and insightful.

 

#119 - EP: has an obvious hard on for the “town leader” role. dude, stop wasting your time campaigning for the position, theres players in this game who are better suited for the role and dont have a track record of leading the town off a cliff with some brilliant scheme.

 

#124 - Ithi: defensive Ithi is defensive. question is, you know what EP is doing, why are you encouraging him? trying to help push an easy lynch?

 

#126 - Peace: really, all thats gone on and thats the vote reason you give. pingtastic

 

#128 - Werb: 2 things. lmfao & <3 U

 

#133 - Nol: defensiveness about the “3rd spot” voting strategy. defending Ape or distancing from Peace .. jury is still out on that. EOY Nol.

 

#197 - Verb: not THATS a vote i could get behind. one of the best i’ve seen all game day!

 

#221 - Halia: if you panicked then why not PM Wes about it instead of posting it on thread thats guaranteed to be spewing activity where he might miss it. hence → baguette.

 

#226: Darthe: really. wagoning off Halia or just being a smartass. either way, you’re now on my short list.

 

#269 - TGI: defense of Halia is noted, and lack of note on Darthe doing the same is equally noted.

 

#283 - Crushlove: oh so you can’t throw a sandwhich either eh? 

 

#323 - EP: and now you're trying to start a cul witch hunt. the OP states the alignments are Mafia or Town, if the scum were cult in this game, it would say cult no Mafia there captain obvious.

 

#333 - Vam: most of it is spam? what game thread are you reading. trying to trivialize D1 already and the normal “hey i’m here no i go lurk mkay” post …

Dang, big post.  I don't know if I have selective memory, but Red is going after Ithi... again.  This time I think she may be onto something though, but I always get caught up in this and think one of them is mafia when they are both town, as do a lot of other people iirc

 

 

Nolder, on 17 May 2013 - 9:20 PM, said:

Ape is right in that we need deaths, and lots of them to start figuring this out.

Thirded

 

Get behind the ape... again

 

 

 

 

 

I see folks saying "xxx and yyy are just doing their thing".  Think that perhaps people would use this meta to hide?  That's the problem with scumhunting (or lack thereof) based on meta - you miss the people that are playing you as a result.  Hunt based on posts/reactions/evidence in this game - forget the rest, for the most part.

That's pretty good advice.   There's many people in this game I've never played with, or very much if I have before, so I don't know their metas.

 

 

Which makes you a dangerous scumhunter if you're town - you won't be fooled by the silly meta references.

 

 

I wonder if he/she will be fooled by the blatant buddying-up?

 

 

I learned my lesson about buddying from my first game with Nolder >.< And yes, I'm a she. 

 

That was hard to watch. It was a close game though at least.

 

Quick question to any/all:

 

Why do so many of your signatures say "bonded to _____"?

 

How do you get bonded?

It's like marriage but with magic

 

Verbal is chatty like an over-eager nerd in line to meet George Takei. 99.98% scum read right now.

I thought the same thing

 

This EP jester routine is really getting on my nerves.

You should know by now that it's not a routine, it really is how he plays for better or worse.

 

My first hour after I wake up every day is devoted to mafia and Pepsi. I feel your pain, boys. 

Ha! I've got a diet coke right now as I'm catching up

 

 

 

Honestly, I wonder if there are no scum yet.  After all, in the scene everybody checked out as normal human.  If there is scum though, EP outed himself.

 

vote EP

 

 

 

who and what are you agreeing with? As you are the only one voting Verbal currently don't you think you should possibly state why that is the case? whether Verbal flips mafia or town you look bad the way this sits, if he flips mafia you burried you vote early so you get the "I can't be scum" defense, however if he flips town you look really bad due to having no reasoning for your vote.

 

 

 Asking someone a "question", then saying ahead of time that nomatter what they answer you will consider it scummy is bad play.  Either ask them a legit question or just tell them they are scummy.  Don't try to pretend like you're scum hunting by doing this.

 

This is how EP plays, he annoys everyone, tries some crazy gambit, works about 1/4 of the time, majorly screws up town, gets lynched, reveals something with his lynch, and then we're back to square one.

 

 

Honestly, I wonder if there are no scum yet.  After all, in the scene everybody checked out as normal human.  If there is scum though, EP outed himself.

 

vote EP

 

 

 

who and what are you agreeing with? As you are the only one voting Verbal currently don't you think you should possibly state why that is the case? whether Verbal flips mafia or town you look bad the way this sits, if he flips mafia you burried you vote early so you get the "I can't be scum" defense, however if he flips town you look really bad due to having no reasoning for your vote.

 

 

 Asking someone a "question", then saying ahead of time that nomatter what they answer you will consider it scummy is bad play.  Either ask them a legit question or just tell them they are scummy.  Don't try to pretend like you're scum hunting by doing this.

 

 

If EP survives til day 2 then he is scum. 

 

Again, please tell me you're joking

[RandA lThor]

Crap, hate the new quote system.

[Nolder]

 

 

What I'm willing to bet is that the people voting Turin are town.  And Ithi's town; what would seem smart to me is for them to kill one train with a bunch of townies on it, thus nudging us townies to join them on a lynch on another townie.

Not sure I follow you. How did you reach that conclusion?

 

Read the rest of her statement..looks pretty clear.

 

Why don't you let people answer for themselves from now on ok?

[Hallia]

I responded to ya right at the same time

[Nolder]

It's just theory.  It sounds smart to me if I was mafia; two competing trains, both on town.  The town start piling on to one particular person(turin) and so the mafia get on another person (ithi's got the highest) and so they kill turin.  With him dead, and people still wanting to lynch one of the the two, Ithi's the next logical step (unless something is done to change that.)  So the town hop on that train and lynch Ithi.  When she flips town, everyone would look at the last few people to join the lynch (Which I see most commonly.)

That doesn't make much sense. Most of the time when someone who was suspicious is lynched or killed the town moves on to the next most suspicious person.

In the case of Ithi and Turin, if both are town, mafia would prefer to kill someone who is not suspicious and is not getting a lot of votes because the townies under suspicion are still most likely to be lynched.

[Hallia]

Only time will tell. ^^

[peacesells]

 

 

 

What I'm willing to bet is that the people voting Turin are town.  And Ithi's town; what would seem smart to me is for them to kill one train with a bunch of townies on it, thus nudging us townies to join them on a lynch on another townie.

Not sure I follow you. How did you reach that conclusion?

 

Read the rest of her statement..looks pretty clear.

 

Why don't you let people answer for themselves from now on ok?

 

I didn't answer for her.   Pointed out your lack of reading skills.  Which should be pointed out once again.

[Talya]

 

 

 

Honestly, I wonder if there are no scum yet.  After all, in the scene everybody checked out as normal human.  If there is scum though, EP outed himself.

 

vote EP

 

 

 

who and what are you agreeing with? As you are the only one voting Verbal currently don't you think you should possibly state why that is the case? whether Verbal flips mafia or town you look bad the way this sits, if he flips mafia you burried you vote early so you get the "I can't be scum" defense, however if he flips town you look really bad due to having no reasoning for your vote.

 

 

 Asking someone a "question", then saying ahead of time that nomatter what they answer you will consider it scummy is bad play.  Either ask them a legit question or just tell them they are scummy.  Don't try to pretend like you're scum hunting by doing this.

 

 

If EP survives til day 2 then he is scum. 

 

 

Of course he will now and you will and mafia (if not you) will have a good reason.

 

 

 

Just read everyones summaries and to be perfectly honest... In a game this big we have to just kill someone.  Chances of hitting scum is whatever the math is after it comes out of the calculator.  The toughest part is Im not even sure everyone has posted yet.  So kinda changes the math.  Makes the chances of hitting scum smaller considering half the scum team may not have posted at all.  So only alternative is stop jabbering and start killing.  We might get lucky but with every death are chances of hitting scum becomes greater.  

 

So we either lynch the person with the most votes know or we can go back and lynch someone who acts like they actually have a real case on someone.  My case on Ithy is crap.  I didnt even read the post I voted her from completely.  LOL   So... let's  just kill her anyway...  see her alignment then pick off someone on her train.  If not kill the person that actually tried to make voting for her based on something other than layers.  

 

that last paragraphs sounds like it should be on a Mafia QT...

 

 

 

Feel free to cut and paste it to yours then.  Your welcome.

 

 

Is this a "I'll show you mine if you show me yours"

 

 

Mine sticks out from under my shirt so it;s tuff to hide.  Your next?

 

 

I don't have one that sticks out from under my shirt...but then I'm not wearing a shirt...

 

What I'm willing to bet is that the people voting Turin are town.  And Ithi's town; what would seem smart to me is for them to kill one train with a bunch of townies on it, thus nudging us townies to join them on a lynch on another townie.

 

I don't get this. This kill came in mid way through the hour (or day), how do we know this is even a mafia kill. Weren't you given an object earlier. It could well be that someone thought he was mafia and off'd him early, or it could be mafia, we don't know. Are you trying to make yourself look town by saying the you are willing to bet everyone on Turin's lynch is town? This would look good later if they all turned out to be. We don't know who did the kill yet so blaming mafia and make them seem they are trying to push an Ithi lynch is a little far fetched at this stage. There is still a few people on EP.

 

So now Peace and verb are defending Hally and coming to her aid. 

[Hallia]

As I said, it's just my thoughts on it, I could totally be off base.  

[Basel Gill]

 

Leelou; exactly how would an Ithi lynch give us more information than a Turin lynch? It's a very easy sentence to throw out, that basically says nothing. I'd like to hear your exact thought process on Ithi vs Turin.

 

Because the way she flips you can go back and look at the way people reacted with her or just about her lynch train in general. Why does that really need to be explained? I would like to hear your thoughts on the game.

 

This answers nothing, really. The bit in blue would also have applied to a Turin lynch, or a lynch on anyone else. So why does an Ithi lynch become more informative than a different lynch?

[Talya]

As I said, it's just my thoughts on it, I could totally be off base.  

 

it was the way you said you would bet on it made it sound you were really sure. 

[Darthe]

Looks like we will be missing deadline, arbitrary though it is.

[Hallia]

And I would. But I'm not perfect. Though I wish I was

[Hallia]

Deadline's now May 19th.

[Talya]

I thought it was before anyway.

[DPR]

As stated in the rules, each "hour" will last 48 hours in real-time. Each hour will last the full 48 hours unless there is a lynch, in which case the results will be announced and the next 48 hour "hour" will begin.

 

The game started at 9:00 am Friday (Eastern, or New York time) and the 48 hours will go to Sunday at 9:00 am, unless there is a lynch.