[Advanced] The Dresden Files Mafia - Game Over - Ed loses, Verbal wins

BooBoo · April 1, 2013

I've noticed I'm the most dangerous when I play these games with my pants off.

///zzzzzip!

John McClane · April 1, 2013

Well you see my problem so far has been easter weekend and the fact that ya'll posted 24 pages of crap over easter weekend that seems to be confusing spam and bashing each other.... well mostly bashing that csdude who if he wanted people to spell his name correctly should have chosen an easier name like chuck or tim... anyway... I agree with ya'll getting rid of him, if for no other reason than his bickering about his name was distracting from actually trying to find out who in the heck the mafia is in this group.

Saying this I'm still trying to actually make myself read through what ya'll posted.

I don't trust verb. Of course a lot of that is just because.. well.. i don't trust Verb. He's an ewok...

On other notes........

Tell me John, what made you want to play mafia? Do you have anything disturbing in your past? How much wood WOULD a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

I like trying to be a hero.

I enjoy the logic puzzle.

I like doing what people say can't be done... most notably finding scum on D1, I LOVE D1 and I successfully have nailed scum on a LOT of D1s. So much so that on JN before I started figuring out how to scum hunt a D1 scum lynch was considered impossible, and in the past months it has become an expectation in some ways.

I pretty much suck after D1 though, I get too spun around and whatnot. LOL

Katiora · April 1, 2013

lol! You after day 1 is like me ALL THE TIME! Yay from now on we can be lost together! I'll even give you permission to blame leelou.. everything is always her fault anyway :wink: Honestly I never play mafia any more for a reason. I find it annoying and I generally suck at it.. Usually i get drawn into saying something incriminating or get accused of saying something incriminating, or not saying anything which is incriminating or I don't say anything incriminating which is incriminating... And I get lynched. And i somehow always end up in boring roles.. I'm like the extra guy on star trek that's you know is just there to die... *sighs*

Leelou · April 1, 2013

I am not a scapegoat. Especially not for Ape.

I'd really like to hear from Song. She checked in, went out drinking Friday night and hasn't come back to the game once.

Katiora · April 1, 2013

maybe she's still out drinking???

Maybe the REAL mafia got her O.O

John McClane · April 1, 2013

lol! You after day 1 is like me ALL THE TIME! Yay from now on we can be lost together! I'll even give you permission to blame leelou.. everything is always her fault anyway Honestly I never play mafia any more for a reason. I find it annoying and I generally suck at it.. Usually i get drawn into saying something incriminating or get accused of saying something incriminating, or not saying anything which is incriminating or I don't say anything incriminating which is incriminating... And I get lynched. And i somehow always end up in boring roles.. I'm like the extra guy on star trek that's you know is just there to die... *sighs*

LOL

Would you consider giving up your spot in this game for Crusher? Or our friend Gustavo Paco Pendejo from JN?

BooBoo · April 1, 2013

Well you see my problem so far has been easter weekend and the fact that ya'll posted 24 pages of crap over easter weekend that seems to be confusing spam and bashing each other.... well mostly bashing that csdude who if he wanted people to spell his name correctly should have chosen an easier name like chuck or tim... anyway... I agree with ya'll getting rid of him, if for no other reason than his bickering about his name was distracting from actually trying to find out who in the heck the mafia is in this group.

Saying this I'm still trying to actually make myself read through what ya'll posted.

I don't trust verb. Of course a lot of that is just because.. well.. i don't trust Verb. He's an ewok...

On other notes........

Tell me John, what made you want to play mafia? Do you have anything disturbing in your past? How much wood WOULD a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

I like trying to be a hero.

I enjoy the logic puzzle.

I like doing what people say can't be done... most notably finding scum on D1, I LOVE D1 and I successfully have nailed scum on a LOT of D1s. So much so that on JN before I started figuring out how to scum hunt a D1 scum lynch was considered impossible, and in the past months it has become an expectation in some ways.

I pretty much suck after D1 though, I get too spun around and whatnot. LOL

You're a disgusting pig.

I am not a scapegoat. Especially not for Ape.

I'd really like to hear from Song. She checked in, went out drinking Friday night and hasn't come back to the game once.

Song is playing? Like my sweet sweet Song?

Miss her!!!

Katiora · April 1, 2013

*sighs* I don't wanna quit... I've never been a quiter and I started this planning on playing out until the end or i die... the later will probably come sooner.. lol And anyway... he'd have an unfair advantage coming back in because he would know his former role which would be unfair to the person who took his place.

And booboo is disturbing....

Leelou · April 1, 2013

I am not a scapegoat. Especially not for Ape.

I'd really like to hear from Song. She checked in, went out drinking Friday night and hasn't come back to the game once.

Song is playing? Like my sweet sweet Song?

Miss her!!!

Yes, your Song is playing.

John McClane · April 1, 2013

Hope everyone had a nice Easter and enjoyed watching the Gators get their asses handed to them. I know I did. Will be posting some thoughts straight away, but before I do, I just wanted to make a comment.

Ape makes a great point, and him making it is one of the reasons I was so psyched to see the JN players involved this time. Many of us here on DM are much too interested in surviving till the end instead of winning. I never noticed the distinction until I played there. As Town, our job is to find scum. not to keep living. If our deaths smoke out scum, then we've succeeded. When Csarmi says that his coroner report won't be useful, that's a load of crap. The intel that can be gathered from ANY coroner report is useful. With what we've seen so far, there is a lot that can be deduced, and Csarmi's desire to survive as opposed to actually helping is noteworthy, as are those those that have been quick to leap onto an, as of yet, easy case. Putting it all together is the endgame we should be striving for.

Reading up on particulars now.

Lastly, great finale to WD and great premiere to GoT. Pumped for the new season.

The bold, blue, italic statement is a major scum tell. Universal, not just exclusive to Ishy.

Scum likes to feign how they are going to go back and read, and then don't, or how they are going to drop some knowledge and then they don't. The following are the statements that Ishy adds to the thread after saying he's going to post some thoughts. By "some thoughts" he implies game-related, because he first squeezes in his point of view on Crusher which was obviously excluded from his "some thoughts".

John, I don't recommend lynching me.

Why not? If you are a vanilla townie, you should understand the value in dying now. Knowing your alignment gives us great context for all the reactions we've gotten.

On a related note, Dapiano just added himself to the list of respondents, and I like a lot of what he's got to say.

This is the point I was referencing. Learn it, live it.

Why do you think Crusher left? As far as I would guess, he's just out somewhere getting drunk again.

He left because of you. Straight-up, you whiny (Edit: baby, requested by Mod). You call me disgusting while you sit here and insinuate he's a drunk?

Crusher is the most stand-up guy I've ever encountered in a forum, and lives his life for his family. When he gets online after drinking a little Maker's it's usually gold, comedy gold. Him voting in the wrong thread is classic. You ruined it.

^^This. Crusher feeling like he needed to leave pisses me the f*** off. You all missed out on the chance to play with a great player and an even greater guy. This makes me sick.

Why do you think Crusher left? As far as I would guess, he's just out somewhere getting drunk again.

He left because of you. Straight-up, you whiny (Edit: baby, requested by Mod). You call me disgusting while you sit here and insinuate he's a drunk?

Crusher is the most stand-up guy I've ever encountered in a forum, and lives his life for his family. When he gets online after drinking a little Maker's it's usually gold, comedy gold. Him voting in the wrong thread is classic. You ruined it.

^^This. Crusher feeling like he needed to leave pisses me the f*** off. You all missed out on the chance to play with a great player and an even greater guy. This makes me sick.

Crusher > Czech Republic.

In awesomeness, size, and 'Murica-ness.

Crush is just a good dude and has always made me feel welcome. I feel like we didn't extend him the same courtesy.

But yeah, Crush > the whole effin EU.

short thoughts of the players so far:

2. Darthe - playing to his recent meta - town lean

5. Ed - adding his own thoughts, not sheeping, town lean

6. Vam - couple of very diplomatic posts and that was it, scum lean

7. Peace - I should have more thoughts about peace but his posts strike me as reasonable so they don't stick out in my mind, town lean

8. Leelou - fence sitting and taking a backseat position that she won't easily be called out on, scum lean

9. Dap - late to the party, scum lean

10. John - not just brushing the grass, full on setting off a grassfire. more abrasive than i'd be, but town lean

12. Hybrid - not much except for a pretty unfounded (IMO) vote on cs, scum lean

13. Tina - trying to look innocent by not using google-fu, scum lean

14. Nolder - makes me laugh by calling himself town MVP, did call someone's RVS vote scummy and wasn't called out on it, null

16. AVM - his phrasing makes it seem like he is trying to keep himself unaccountable, don't see real scumhunting, scum lean

17. CS - hasn't done any scum hunting, just got into it with John, would like to see some more offense from him, town lean

18. BB - random votes, no explanation, just skating on D1, scum lean

I'm not even on the list. Scummy skimmer.

I'm not even on the list. Scummy skimmer.

Do something other than make a post about a gambit then pretend it was a joke.

How about make more than three total posts the whole game? Then you can talk smack. Till then, stfu.

He says nothing really game-related. Then...

Well, a smi-bluff.

Anyway, I'm Demonreach, Roleblocker. I win if I'm alive at the end of the game :)

So you don't win with Town, you're a third party then?

He sniffs out the 3rd party lynch opportunity, and pours the fuel on the fire with a nudge... but...

Roleblocker with a solo victory condition? I don't buy it. He's gotta be scum.

UNVOTE

VOTE CHARMIE

You're awfully quick to leap on an easy lynch.

...after making the nudge, casts some FOS at pea smells for voting for a "solo win" person, right after Ishy points out cspackle was "3rd party".

Unless someone gives us a better case tomorrow, I thinking we lynch Ishy. Note, Ishy never even voted cspooge. To scum, cspooge looked like town, scum often nudges a lynch on town without voting them.

BooBoo · April 1, 2013

*sighs* I don't wanna quit... I've never been a quiter and I started this planning on playing out until the end or i die... the later will probably come sooner.. lol And anyway... he'd have an unfair advantage coming back in because he would know his former role which would be unfair to the person who took his place.

And booboo is disturbing....

That because you havent seen me with my shirt off.

I am not a scapegoat. Especially not for Ape.

I'd really like to hear from Song. She checked in, went out drinking Friday night and hasn't come back to the game once.

Song is playing? Like my sweet sweet Song?

Miss her!!!

Yes, your Song is playing.

full bone dog

Nolder · April 1, 2013

I'm down for an Ishy lynch tomorrow

John McClane · April 1, 2013

I'm down for an Ishy lynch tomorrow

I'm sure you are.

Darthe · April 1, 2013

Wednesday's comin up.

Nolder · April 1, 2013

That's the day after tomorrow ;)

Lenlo · April 1, 2013

Alright. Well I was wrong about Csarmi being town from back when I last posted.

I think we should go back and look at who was eager to lynch him before he revealed though as the scum wouldn't know he was anything other than town.

I also want to put some pressure on Darthe come day because I don't like how he's been playing so far. TGs def of and town read on him is BS and based on incredibly new meta that I don't trust and have never seen. Because of this I also want to look at him abit.

I have no idea what this means - can you clarify?

Alright Verb. So TG says that Darthe has been playing to his meta recently, as shown in this quote here.

short thoughts of the players so far:

2. Darthe - playing to his recent meta - town lean

5. Ed - adding his own thoughts, not sheeping, town lean

6. Vam - couple of very diplomatic posts and that was it, scum lean

7. Peace - I should have more thoughts about peace but his posts strike me as reasonable so they don't stick out in my mind, town lean

8. Leelou - fence sitting and taking a backseat position that she won't easily be called out on, scum lean

9. Dap - late to the party, scum lean

10. John - not just brushing the grass, full on setting off a grassfire. more abrasive than i'd be, but town lean

12. Hybrid - not much except for a pretty unfounded (IMO) vote on cs, scum lean

13. Tina - trying to look innocent by not using google-fu, scum lean

14. Nolder - makes me laugh by calling himself town MVP, did call someone's RVS vote scummy and wasn't called out on it, null

16. AVM - his phrasing makes it seem like he is trying to keep himself unaccountable, don't see real scumhunting, scum lean

17. CS - hasn't done any scum hunting, just got into it with John, would like to see some more offense from him, town lean

18. BB - random votes, no explanation, just skating on D1, scum lean

I took this as him defending Darthes recent actions in this game. I personally have not seen Darthe ever play like this and I also do not trust using meta to gauge whether or not someone is town. Because of this, along with other things in TGs list, I think TG should be pressured and looked at.

I think Darthe should also be looked at because I dont like how he has been playing. He hasnt provided us with much of anything and has just been staying out of the convos for the most part throwing in some BS now and then from what I remember.

Hoped that cleared it up.

ed2funy · April 1, 2013

No, just wanted to join in on the misspelling.

Sheep.

baaaaaaaaa

Watch out for Player.

Alright. Well I was wrong about Csarmi being town from back when I last posted.

I think we should go back and look at who was eager to lynch him before he revealed though as the scum wouldn't know he was anything other than town.

I also want to put some pressure on Darthe come day because I don't like how he's been playing so far. TGs def of and town read on him is BS and based on incredibly new meta that I don't trust and have never seen. Because of this I also want to look at him abit.

Uhhhh, no like.

If you were mafia, aligning yourself to someone you know is not on the mafia is too easy. You didn't know he was a survivor, so you come in and apologize for thinking he was Town.

Verbal32 · April 1, 2013

Alright. Well I was wrong about Csarmi being town from back when I last posted.

I think we should go back and look at who was eager to lynch him before he revealed though as the scum wouldn't know he was anything other than town.

I also want to put some pressure on Darthe come day because I don't like how he's been playing so far. TGs def of and town read on him is BS and based on incredibly new meta that I don't trust and have never seen. Because of this I also want to look at him abit.

I have no idea what this means - can you clarify?

Alright Verb. So TG says that Darthe has been playing to his meta recently, as shown in this quote here.

>short thoughts of the players so far:

2. Darthe - playing to his recent meta - town lean

5. Ed - adding his own thoughts, not sheeping, town lean

6. Vam - couple of very diplomatic posts and that was it, scum lean

7. Peace - I should have more thoughts about peace but his posts strike me as reasonable so they don't stick out in my mind, town lean

8. Leelou - fence sitting and taking a backseat position that she won't easily be called out on, scum lean

9. Dap - late to the party, scum lean

10. John - not just brushing the grass, full on setting off a grassfire. more abrasive than i'd be, but town lean

12. Hybrid - not much except for a pretty unfounded (IMO) vote on cs, scum lean

13. Tina - trying to look innocent by not using google-fu, scum lean

14. Nolder - makes me laugh by calling himself town MVP, did call someone's RVS vote scummy and wasn't called out on it, null

16. AVM - his phrasing makes it seem like he is trying to keep himself unaccountable, don't see real scumhunting, scum lean

17. CS - hasn't done any scum hunting, just got into it with John, would like to see some more offense from him, town lean

18. BB - random votes, no explanation, just skating on D1, scum lean

I took this as him defending Darthes recent actions in this game. I personally have not seen Darthe ever play like this and I also do not trust using meta to gauge whether or not someone is town. Because of this, along with other things in TGs list, I think TG should be pressured and looked at.

I think Darthe should also be looked at because I dont like how he has been playing. He hasnt provided us with much of anything and has just been staying out of the convos for the most part throwing in some BS now and then from what I remember.

Hoped that cleared it up.

Yes it did, thanks.

John Snow · April 1, 2013

Wait a sec, is my quick reply working?

John Snow · April 1, 2013

:biggrin:

Nolder · April 1, 2013

Oh mine works too now!

Nice!

Tyler Glembo · April 1, 2013

Alright. Well I was wrong about Csarmi being town from back when I last posted.

I think we should go back and look at who was eager to lynch him before he revealed though as the scum wouldn't know he was anything other than town.

I also want to put some pressure on Darthe come day because I don't like how he's been playing so far. TGs def of and town read on him is BS and based on incredibly new meta that I don't trust and have never seen. Because of this I also want to look at him abit.

Hey Tglems...Darthe is a top 4 poster in the Girls gone wild game. What does that say about your meta on him?

I won't comment on the GGW game because I believe it is ongoing. However, check the VeggieTales game. Darthe posted nothing reasonable or helpful the first couple days then busted in later with great analysis (he pegged our entire scum team, thankfully noone believed him). Dunno if he is scum, but I don't think him playing like this is an indication because he played the exact same way in the game I was just in with him.

Lenlo · April 1, 2013

Alright. Well I was wrong about Csarmi being town from back when I last posted.

I think we should go back and look at who was eager to lynch him before he revealed though as the scum wouldn't know he was anything other than town.

I also want to put some pressure on Darthe come day because I don't like how he's been playing so far. TGs def of and town read on him is BS and based on incredibly new meta that I don't trust and have never seen. Because of this I also want to look at him abit.

>Hey Tglems...Darthe is a top 4 poster in the Girls gone wild game. What does that say about your meta on him?

I won't comment on the GGW game because I believe it is ongoing. However, check the VeggieTales game. Darthe posted nothing reasonable or helpful the first couple days then busted in later with great analysis (he pegged our entire scum team, thankfully noone believed him). Dunno if he is scum, but I don't think him playing like this is an indication because he played the exact same way in the game I was just in with him.

And this changes nothing. I still dont think you should base reads on meta. It doesnt help. People will exploit their meta to pass as town. Its better to case based on the current game, not how they act in others.

Tyler Glembo · April 2, 2013

And this changes nothing. I still dont think you should base reads on meta. It doesnt help. People will exploit their meta to pass as town. Its better to case based on the current game, not how they act in others.

Exactly, which is why I don't have the same scum read on him that some do.

ed2funy · April 2, 2013

During the whole cstarmie thing, this was pretty much my reaction.

[Advanced] The Dresden Files Mafia - Game Over - Ed loses, Verbal wins

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