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@Ishy-What about the nudging/casing without voting?

 

@Darthe-You said you would address why I was "definitely scummmates with Ishy" and you never did. Instead you unvoted him. Any reason you are voting me this time or will you not give anything valid as in D1?

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@Ishy-What about the nudging/casing without voting?

 

@Darthe-You said you would address why I was "definitely scummmates with Ishy" and you never did. Instead you unvoted him. Any reason you are voting me this time or will you not give anything valid as in D1?

 

Not answering for you but here it is so that all can see it.  Also, the term bolded above is once again a lie, not in context but in representation.

 

 

 

Also, with 2 votes on ishy, if he isn't speed lynched soon then we can at least confirm that either he is scum or there is scum between Darthe and peace. Narrows things down.

 

I'll state an intent to vote ishy, but I won't vote yet to make sure that scum don't have a chance to speed lynch if I'm wrong.

 

Also, true.  The only issue is that your last statement means that if Ishy is scum you're scum with him.  I can't imagine why you would make this forward a play this late.

 

See?  If Ishy is scum TG is scum with him here because he states that he has waited on voting to assure that "Scum don't have a chance to speed lynch him if wrong"  However, with a 12 person game 3 should definitely be scum and Ishy was at L-3, so the statement wasn't valid as scum could do this with or without his help.  Additionally it gave TG a reason to not vote for a bit and when the illogical aspects of this were pointed out the scum team had time to create an effective response.

 

 

@Darthe- what? Care to explain that? I'm not voting for obvious reasons that you should understand. If you and/or peace are scum then the more townies who vote with you the easier it is to get your lynch on ishy. If ishy is scum it doesn't make a difference that I'm waiting to cast my vote.

The fact that your purposely pretending to not understand that makes you seem like your trying to get as many votes onto Ishy's train as quickly as possible so your scum buddies can jump on and finish the game. You're not going to coerce me into a vote with such an obvious ploy. I still state my intent to vote ishy based on the doc thing but you making such statements makes it extra hard to ignore you.

 

 

@mish - lol, after last game I'll always be a bit nervous about you :tongue:

 

Ironic that he makes the bolded statement in light of the fact that Ishy could have been hammered by a scum team anyhow if he wasn't mafia but doubly so because TG then proceeds to vote him!

 

 

Whatever, screw it. If this game ends it can at least be on my terms before there is anymore WIFOM spread. Based in my casing of ishy and the fact that he hasn't responded to my question yet

vote ishy

 

What?  You intended to throw away a game for everyone so that you could flaunt that you were right?  This entire post has absolutely no town motivations and you haven't actually cased for crap.  At all in the game.  You gave the man very limited time to respond to any of your illogical and nonsensical casing and then you used it as a stigma to protect yourself as you laid a quick vote.

 

 

Vote Ishy

 

If he isn't scum then it's Darthe or Peace. We will find out soon anyhow.

 

And then here is the other.  This is what tipped me off to one of my wilder theories but it fits well with Ishy if true.  Before I get to that though notice that Cloud doesn't give a damn about the game either.  You either kill mafia or lose, so why would he toss out this vote?  Easy, cloud is mafia.  

 

Thus there are two potential outcomes:  Either the scum team is Ishy, TG, and Cloud or it is Peace, TG and Cloud. 

 

Allow me to explain: When you only have three members and it is lylo your efforts are to scare the town into working with you.  If it looks like mafia are piling on someone then you have to protect that person at all costs so the town reaction is to get off the lynch.  Thus, Cloud and TG just saved ishy's ass and with enough effort they could probably get someone to sheep onto Peace or I.  Then mafia takes the gold.

 

The other option with Peace and the other two is less likely.  Mafia played their hand early (notably, in this case I could be mafia with either of them just as easily) and they screwed themselves.

 

Either way here the problem is that the mafia didn't attempt a speed lynch.  They either wanted to sheep another player onto Ishy and just had it blow up in their face or they wanted to protect ishy.  This is proven by the time signatures.  If a third person was going to appear and hammer they could have before Peace unvoted.

 

So, why am I voting TG?  Because the Ishy angle is likely to me but I can't be certain of it.  

 

Yes, I could just as easily vote Cloud.  But I want the personal satisfaction of watching TG die.  In the end, outed scum is outed scum.

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Great Darthe, you missed the point. If ishy is scum my vote waiting doesn't matter. If ishy wasn't scum then I also wanted to wait because at l-3 scum could hammer but only if fully coordinated (assuming you and peace aren't scum). At l-2 it is even easier for scum to coordinate. However, ishy had time to respond and didn't do so adequately. If you had been paying attention this game you would have noticed that ishy was on my scum list previously. So, given that I decided to make the decision and vote for who I thought was scum.

 

Now, I'm even more certain. Either scum team is you, peace, and ishy or scum team is ishy, maybe cloud, and someone else. Either way I think ishy is scum.

In the first case you and peace voted ishy knowing full well he wouldn't get lynched. You then waited for a townie to vote, unvoted for no apprent reason, played the bogus "it's a trap!" card and thre ploy was to go after whichever townie voted. It is a nice distancing and fake trap gambit but outs you all as scum.

In the second case you are just misguided townies and trying to play a town gambit, maybe cloud is bussing ishy and the third mafia member is staying away.

Either way, my vote stays because I think ishy is scum and id rather see scum lynched than go with your random theories. Don't worry, after ishy flips scum I'll come after you next for your gambit and pretend trap.

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Let's do it then. I should've hammered Ishy when I had the opportunity, but you are correct that the quick running up to L-1 made me wary.

 

Mafia is mafia, and one down will buy the town more time.

 

vote TG

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Great Darthe, you missed the point. If ishy is scum my vote waiting doesn't matter. If ishy wasn't scum then I also wanted to wait because at l-3 scum could hammer but only if fully coordinated (assuming you and peace aren't scum). At l-2 it is even easier for scum to coordinate. However, ishy had time to respond and didn't do so adequately. If you had been paying attention this game you would have noticed that ishy was on my scum list previously. So, given that I decided to make the decision and vote for who I thought was scum.

 

Now, I'm even more certain. Either scum team is you, peace, and ishy or scum team is ishy, maybe cloud, and someone else. Either way I think ishy is scum.

In the first case you and peace voted ishy knowing full well he wouldn't get lynched. You then waited for a townie to vote, unvoted for no apprent reason, played the bogus "it's a trap!" card and thre ploy was to go after whichever townie voted. It is a nice distancing and fake trap gambit but outs you all as scum.

In the second case you are just misguided townies and trying to play a town gambit, maybe cloud is bussing ishy and the third mafia member is staying away.

Either way, my vote stays because I think ishy is scum and id rather see scum lynched than go with your random theories. Don't worry, after ishy flips scum I'll come after you next for your gambit and pretend trap.

 

Funny, I only knew you were on me because you've done practically nothing else.  

 

Of course you can't back off ishy!  God that would screw all three of you instantly.  Now quick, scramble for the most legitimate BS you can!

 

I only have one question left.  Is English your native language?

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Acerbic Darthe is scum Darthe. Keep coming after me with your terrible casing though.

 

Seriously, after OMGUS voting me all game you are now claiming...what exactly? That I'm scum because I am ready to actually lynch someone I think is scum? Your casing has been inconsistent, with you making up new reasons in each post.

 

Anyways, keep trying to distract the rest of town from getting a lunch on either yourself or ishy with your ridiculous comments.

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So I take it we're reverting back to general silence from everyone else?

 

We've all posted today, and still no one has made a claim for Doc although most have agreed that they should come out and reveal.

 

Both of these scenarios could be plausible in the sense that TG and Cloud tried to bus Ishy and hoped a townie would hammer or that Darthe and Peace were bussing Ishy and waiting for some townies to jump onboard so they could unvote and cast them in a bad light.

 

Either way... the central theme of these revolve around one player. I have a feeling I should've done this earlier when I had the opportunity, but I failed.

 

unvote, vote Ish

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So I take it we're reverting back to general silence from everyone else?

 

We've all posted today, and still no one has made a claim for Doc although most have agreed that they should come out and reveal.

 

Both of these scenarios could be plausible in the sense that TG and Cloud tried to bus Ishy and hoped a townie would hammer or that Darthe and Peace were bussing Ishy and waiting for some townies to jump onboard so they could unvote and cast them in a bad light.

 

Either way... the central theme of these revolve around one player. I have a feeling I should've done this earlier when I had the opportunity, but I failed.

 

unvote, vote Ish

 

No?  Ishy could be scum.  TG and cloud must be with the logic in place.

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This has been a very interesting day, with a bucketload of useful interactions to be analyzed when this day is over. I am torn on Ishy. I always have an extremely hard time reading my closest friends in this game; I'm doubly suspicious of them, and at the same time I think they're innocent too at all times. But my gut says mafia.

 

Let's see if I remember how this code-thingie works...

 

Vote Ishy

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Ishy is at L-1 on lylo.    Scum can speed hammer.  Thus, since Tina did not tina isn't scum or if she is she is buddies with Ishy.

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Wait. I know that Im not mafia. I feel 100% sure that peace isn't. Tina is confirmed now.. This means that all mafia are on Ishys lynch.

 

Do not freaking hammer. For the love of god unvote

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So.. At least two mafia are on the lynch, three possible as a total (assuming ishy isn't scum). We need to lynch TG. Cloud or Mish get off that frigging lynch now if you're town. We are lynching TG you sheep.

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I still think Ishy is scum and now you are trying to safe him. Your case on me doesn't make any sense and I think that you are looking way too much into things. You are trying to manipulate town in voting for TG, while Ishy would be the safest bet.

 

My vote stays where it is. 

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