[BASIC] Pick your Poison Mafia MAFIA WINS

[Starrik]

I would like to point something out to you.

 

What kind of scum would be dumb enough to stick their neck out like this?

 

Anti town ( your words, not mine) does not equate to scum.

 

My actions appear very pro town to me. I can smoke out goonz on my lynch. Seems town to me.

 

And dont give me that line that dying on purpose has no purpose peace. Because it has its uses

Anti town equates to a liability. If you play to the extreme detriment of the town, you are helping mafia more than town. A scum that is crazy enough to stick their neck out like that might be a scum who's having crazy fun, and trying to pull off a huge play against the newbies. Not that you're necessarily doing that, but I can see the entertainment in it.

 

Your basing that off of the game where i nk'd myself for the win. That was a no coroner game. This is. Im not stupid or egotistical enough to try and pull a gambit like this on a coroner game

Right, ok. I've played mostly no-coroner games, that might explain the clash there. I agree that Testy is playing very scummy, I'll have a go at casing him later on.

[michellem]

One other option no-one's thought about; The mafia might choose to not NK LZM (that is, if we stop trying to lynch him, goddamnit), just to create WIFOM and make us do it for them tomorrow.

 

It would be a completly idiotic move what LZM has done, if he was mafia. Yes, of course there is a chance that he is. You can never know for sure someone's allegiance until their dead. But right now, we have no evidence that says LZM is not town. In a game this small, mafia is 2-3 people, the only game I've played in this small it was only 2 mafia. So we can afford to let LZM live a day or two more while we keep an eye on him.

 

That being said, Cyan, I think you're coming on VERY hard on a first time player. In a game where 1/3 of the players are first time players, it's hard to maintain a first day pass, but still. Most of the things you post as reasons to find Testy scummy, is newbie mistakes. I find your post very aggresive and a bit iffy to be honest. FoS.

[beanie]

Yaaah I just realized that sounded pretty harsh >.< Oh well, I stand by my reasons and my vote, though I forgot this was his first time. But Testy, please don't take anything I say personally. I'm not trying to be mean and this is just a game after all

[zanibar]

Hi there. I'm glad the game is on its way. I'm wondering if the mafia picked the 3 roles would the town know what they are or is in the dark until later on? Thanks.

[michellem]

The only townies who know what roles is in the game, and who has them, are the ones who are roled. That's how it is in any normal mafia game too. The mafias only know wich roles is here; not wich person who has them.

[zanibar]

Okay thanks Misheru Sedai.

[michellem]

Call me Mish :)

[zanibar]

Mish it is!

[michellem]

What do you think about the situation with LZM and Testy, Zanibar?

[zanibar]

I thought LZM made a very bold move by claiming he is a jailkeeper. Since he is one of the experienced players in the game there must be some reasons for it such as to help generate discussion and to help glean some light on who the mafia could be. On the other hand, Testy also made some valid points and it could be a mafia trying to confuse the town. I'm confuse about the game anyways so whats a little more confusion.

[Lenlo]

Guys, we really shouldnt be lynching LMZ. If he is the Jailor then he is a very powerful person on our side. If he isnt, I have no doubt in my mind that the cop will be checking LMZ tonight to make sure he is town. Lets not jump the gun on lynching one of our most powerful roles.

 

And you forgot number c. Which is where i create so much gd wifom on day one that nobody knows which way is up.

 

 

Did you know that this is going to be w super ibteresting day 1?

 

So thats why my milk went towards the ceiling and not to my bowl... Dang it.

 

Why are you defending an obvious anti-town player?

 

Why are you blinding yourself?

 

If i die you can glean info from my death. Anybody who tells you a town death is useless is a moron. EVERY lynch has meaning. If im lynched or nk'd you will be able to track voting patterns.

 

Just because my play does not fit into your "box" of logic does not make it illogical.

 

You need to take a step back and look from another angle.

 

Weak. Your claim is that if you really are a jailor you are sacrificing a powerful town role right at the beginning so a group of new players can try to analyze voting patterns.

 

Guys, we really shouldnt be lynching LMZ. If he is the Jailor then he is a very powerful person on our side. If he isnt, I have no doubt in my mind that the cop will be checking LMZ tonight to make sure he is town. Lets not jump the gun on lynching one of our most powerful roles.

 

And you forgot number c. Which is where i create so much gd wifom on day one that nobody knows which way is up.

 

 

Did you know that this is going to be w super ibteresting day 1?

 

So thats why my milk went towards the ceiling and not to my bowl... Dang it.

 

Why are you defending an obvious anti-town player?

Because hes not obviously anti-town. He may have made a bad move in your opinion, but it still to early for us to know what effects it will have. Would you call a cop out came outright and said "Im the cop" an obviously anti-town player even though hes the cop? Cause thats the equivalent of what your doing right now. Jailer is a very powerful role and I dont want to risk losing it if we dont have to.

 

Can you explain the scenario that we don't lose him? Are you claiming that mafia would choose not to NK a known powerful town role? I know you are a more experienced player so there might be some reason I don't know why mafia would choose not to kill a known powerful town role, but if so I would very much like to hear it. As far as I can tell the only reason he survives the night is because he is mafia and fake-claimed.

 

As for the cop scenario, if a cop purposely got him/herself killed at the very beginning of the game I would call that anti-town. A cop's role is to provide the town info, by getting purposely insta-killed before ever being able to tell town any information it defeats the purpose of ever being able to fulfill that role.

 

Quite afew scenarios we dont lose him. And even if there was no chance he would survive the night, why should we do their work for them? We should be looking for scum and let them waste their NK on LZM and then we can try and find another scum come morning.

 

Alright I'm home. Firstly Unvote. LZM I was pretty sure you weren't joking, I just wanted reactions and explanations, which I got. For now I'm willing to believe that you are the town jailkeeper.

 

Moving on. Testy. You seem to be one of the most scummy people to me right now. You haven't been contributing to the game very much. In fact your earlier unrelated questions seemed like an attempt to prolong the joke vote phase and distract from scum hunting. Most of your game related posts have been made up of statements that if something happens, you might do this. In this situation you'd probably do that. It's not helpful at all. Also, in one of your posts it sounds like your trying to get the cop to come out and claim by suggesting that he view LZM and tell us the result. Then you say that if LZM is still alive tomorrow we should lynch him. And then you even go so far as to say that an un-cc'd jailkeeper should kill himself? How exactly is that helpful to town?

 

In conclusion, Vote Testy.

 

Also Len and TG are pinging.

 

Len, why are you so sure there is a cop in this game? Do you have access to information that the rest of us don't?

 

Also, TG, how did you go from changing your opinion on LZM from 'oh he's confirmed town to me' to 'he's definately scum, vote LZM' so quickly?

 

I have yet to be in a basic game where there wasnt a cop thats why. Its a basic game, why wouldnt there be a cop? This is speaking from experience not game information.

[Davrick]

I'll unvote LZM I think him being drunk last night added to the confusion. I honestly have no idea who to vote for, though I do think testy should spam less.

[michellem]

Len, considering this is a "pick your poison"-game, I actually doubt that mafia would have picked cop for town, as cop is usually one of the most hurtful roles for mafia.

[Lenlo]

...

 

*facepalm*

 

I completely missed that link to the gametype... Wow im stupid. I thought ti was some story I didnt know.

[michellem]

How can you miss it, after I pointed it out quite thoroughly to Testy a couple pages back? Skimming much?

 

Well, at least that more or less proves that you are not mafia, since they would have had to discuss wich roles to choose in the QT.

[kght22]

the joke is that it is just a game , :) so i am having fun with it.

[kght22]

vote

Misheru

[kght22]

i called it last night and had it in my clipboard before i woke up.

[michellem]

Eh, what? Care to give a reason to that?

[Starrik]

Yeah Testy, voting without giving explicit reasons is generally considered to be either super-scummy, or it just peeves people off.

[LedZepMan]

Duh.....

[Darthe]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

 

LZM (1/7): TG

 

Davrick (1/7): LZM

 

Cyan (2/7): Starrik, Lenlo

 

Testy (1/7): Cyan

 

 

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

 

Not Voting (8) :

 

Panchi, Misheru Sedai, Zanibar, Testy al'Carr, Loading..., SirTownsend, Falcon, Davrick

 

Countdown til Night: http://www.timeandda...412&msg=Night 1

 

 

 

THIS IS AN OFFICIAL POKE AT TOWNSEND, FALCON, AND PANCHI. POST OR BE REPLACED.

[Davrick]

I think some might be traveling for thanksgiving.

[Tyler Glembo]

If I don't get much of a chance to login, Happy Thanksgiving ya'll!

 

As for gameplay, I'm comfortable with my vote where it is at the moment, though I do find Testy's gameplay a little...odd. Hopefully we hear from the remaining players soon.

[beanie]

TG, lynching LZM right now is a bad idea. There's a decent chance he actually is our jailkeeper, and if we accidentally lynch a power role this early on it will really hurt the town.

 

And I would actually like an answer to my question btw....