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Hey Nightstrike, I can see your kinda bummed out by all this. Your reactions aren't helping your case. The emo nuttiness thing isn't what gets to me. Or even Red's casing, which I kinda agreed with you seemed trumped up. The fact you aren't going out on a limb and voting someone or casing someone to help town or something other than sulk about how everyone is voting for you convinces me that you don't really have any good reasons to accuse anyone of being scummy cause you don't want to incriminate anyone. If you are town like you proclaim to be, do something to help town. Actually, you haven't really proclaimed to be town, but you have sarcastically joked about being mafia a few times now.

 

Did you miss the post where he said he was town like 6 times? He over-proclaimed

 

*Do'h*

 

You're right. He's just been so glummy since Day 2 started I forgot all about that from earlier.

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Sorry I haven't been as active, I just got off work for my 5 nights. Prob won't be quite as active for a bit.

 

NS still seems to be going off the deep end. Had a townie vibe from him before, but that turned into more of a jesterish vibe. If he is a Jester I don't want him to get a win the way he's acted, even if it doesn't prevent town from getting a win as well.

 

For now I'm gonna Vote Razen.

 

Pretty sure he's scum.

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Official Vote Count:

 

Nightstrike (9) Ishy, BG, Misheru, JLM, John Snow, peace, Eds, Basel, Dice

Rand (3) Red, Razen, Songs

BG (2) Darthe, Nolder

Verbal (1) EP

Razen (1) Desp

 

Not voting (6) Kaylee, Verbal, Rand, Nightstrike, WoT, Cyan

 

 

With 22 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

 

 

Still need a replacement for WoT.

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:rolleyes: Any thoughts on anything else going on in the game?

 

Have you not paid attention at all? I have already stated my thoughts on Night, you, and Verb.

 

Wait, those were actual thoughts you had on me? Case me.

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:rolleyes: Any thoughts on anything else going on in the game?

 

Have you not paid attention at all? I have already stated my thoughts on Night, you, and Verb.

 

Wait, those were actual thoughts you had on me? Case me.

 

I did, considering how few posts you have there won't be many quotes.

 

Did you not see the vote I placed on you?

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Basically, I had a gut feeling on you day 1, half the reason for that is now invalid due to Red flipping town, but even before you went away you didn't really contribute much. Not to mention, the way you basically shrugged of my statement against you day 1.

 

After you came back, you hammered with absolutely no additional thoughts contributed, granted Basil was a SK, but the way you trumped up your hammer and basically ingratiated the rest of us to your quick hammer is not something a townie would do. Red also commented on how you were acting weird and asked you if you would share thoughts and you blatently said no.

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Nice way of twisting things.

I only cast doubt on his verifying you.

 

Because let's face it, if he knew from the Mods you and John were Town, he would have said so off the bat. And he only said that after constant badgering.

 

FoS @ Ed now.

 

dude, i agree EP's play is scummy, but townies can act scummy as well. Nol said its Mod Confirmed, before D2 started no less. i have no reason to doubt it and you continueing to do so seems like your trying to cast doubt on Nol more than going after EP.

 

 

Honestly, I am getting a town read on Ed right now. No mafia would be so belligerent, accuse a mod-confirmed townie, and do this. Its one of those things where he is so scummy that he has to be town.

 

really Rand. cheerleading and fence sitting isn't enough for you, now you WIFOM on Ed and attach yourself to him. i dislike this buddying up and defenese of Ed.

 

 

I never have understood how fence sitting can be considered a legit accusation. At best its a little wifom. If you are town, you have no direct knowledge of alignments. Therefore fence sitting is natural.

 

The wifom part I get cause scum can use fence sitting as a way to hedge.

 

But fence sitting on it's own is not an indication of guilt. I've felt that way many times as town.

 

It's coming across to me as playing a little too careful - trying to play both sides of the fence, so to speak, not being willing to be pinned down to a position.

 

^ this. theres plenty of times when as town you see a perosn and are undecided about their alignment, but townies should never be afriad to declare for one side.

 

 

"I don't normally fnece sit but when I do I make sure I show everyone my splinters."

 

I think that was the line you were looking for in response to Rand.

 

ha!! WIN.

 

 

I didn't know he was 3:rd party, and there's no way the resoning was because I was town and therefore didn't know. Therefore it must be because I was scum. Good reasoning there.

 

its the cautiouness that pings Strike. i'm not the only one that has pointed this out so its obviously not fabricated as you like to claim. you left yourself an out if he flipped town, hence - scummy vote.

 

 

 

-"maybe not always good for town either" for scum and town alike. Therefore I'm scum.

 

since when is a mod confirmed townie not good for the town? explain that one to me. you were trying to cast doubt and suspicion on Nol, hence - scummy. and yeah, tryign to get peopel not to trust a mod confrimed town is scummy dude.

 

-I'm not a newbie, and therefore I'm scum.

 

if youre not a newb, then why so many referances to "but i dunno, i'm new" in response to Nol being confirmed town. even others pointed out you riding that Newbie card hard dude.

 

-I'm the worst spammer in the thread, and noone accused me for faulty reasons, so I had no reason to point out what's real or not. Therefore I'm scum.

 

over defensive reaction and twisting what i say into something its not, and playacting the victim. nice try. i said majority of your posts up until 1/2 way through Day 1 were in response to spam, they were.

 

-I initially didn't want to vote Basel, and the post I voted him in didn't explain my reasoning in any way that could mean I'm town (see quote above). Therefore I'm scum.

 

no you fence sat on you vote, allowing you to hopefully vindicate yourself if he flipped town. classic scum move dude.

 

-Although I didn't fence sit on bg's alignment (I said I thought he was town - and obviously I don't know for sure that he is). Me not wanting to vote him from the start (I wanted to lynch songstress), and there's no way that me

saying what I said in the first quote could be anything other than scummish.

 

this, i've already explained. you were wishy washy on BG, "willing to vote him, but meh i dont think he's scum."

 

-Yeah, sure, I totally did that. I don't feel like digging up those but sure I must be guilty. Hence scum.

 

dude, you stated voting incatives wasn't a good thing, but then turned around and asked for reasons to vote them. that is a contradiction in agenda. either you dont want to vote inactives, or you do. pick a side and get of the fence for once.

 

 

responses in blue

 

 

Despo and Red seemed to disagree who to go after a couple of pages back. Maybe indicative of that they're not on the same team, at least if one of them isn't town. If both are town, then I suppose it means absolutely nothing. Nolder has argued for not pursuing the issues with EP that has taken so much time and effort, so I think I should consider him a likely townie. Those that have spent a lot of space on those issues could be on the scum team, as someone else pointed out. Nolder, perhaps?

Him=Kublai Khan. Townie=scum. EP=Nolder. Nolder=EP. I therefore linked EP and Nolder, so that I pointed out that both must be scum, and therefore only 3 of those 2 could be scum. Therefore I'm scum. I confess.

 

:huh: wtf is Kublai Khan and wtf does it have to do with the price of tea in china..

 

dude, Nolder does not = EP. they're two seperate players, with two seperate roles. and its rather obvious that their not on a Mason team via Nol and Eps own words. so there you go, once again linking the two and proving my point for me.

 

to the underlined. i'm sorry, is this sarcasim or did you relaly just say that you were tryign to point out that a mod confirmed Townie is scum o.0

 

 

 

 

@Darthe: I have this thing called a job. Perhaps you have heard of them. I am away from home for several hours at a time while others have time to sit around on their duff and present their cases. As such, it is not unexpected that people will notice things before I even have a chance to read them. I saw things about NS that people had already commented on while I was away, and I found them scummy. Would you rather I explain why I am voting someone or just post a vote with no reasoning attached? If you are going to attack me for not being the first one to point out something because I was busy earning money in order to keep myself in good financial standing, then I consider that awfully close to getting personal.

 

Furthermore, if you are going to make a case on me or anyone else, obscure allusions are not a good idea. I don't understand why you are accusing me of impressionism, because in a GoT themed game I don't see what is so scummy about being part of a 19th century French style of painting.

 

nice over reaction there Basel.

 

 

Sorry I haven't been as active, I just got off work for my 5 nights. Prob won't be quite as active for a bit.

 

NS still seems to be going off the deep end. Had a townie vibe from him before, but that turned into more of a jesterish vibe. If he is a Jester I don't want him to get a win the way he's acted, even if it doesn't prevent town from getting a win as well.

 

For now I'm gonna Vote Razen.

 

Pretty sure he's scum.

 

dude, can you pull a case on him for us?

 

 

also, you have yet to explain why you jumped off Basel 1.0's train.

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At the time, I figured there wasn't a third party in the game because I was reminded of the win conditions listed at the beginning of the game. I wanted more pressure on BG, and felt we might be able to get a lynch on him if activity picked up a bit at the last second. BG is still high on my list, and seems to ping on others too, but atm Razen looks scummiest to me.

 

The shorthand on my case it that he started the game saying he really wanted to hear my thoughts on things, which came off as an uberping to me, and then after being fos'd lurked for a long time, before finally coming back and basically omgus fos'ing me. Finally he posted that uberscummy post that was trying to cast more doubt on Nol and EP.

 

He's playing pretty obviously scummish to me so far this game

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Rand, i never said i think Ed is scum, i've FoSd him over a few things yes but never called him scum.

 

you OTOH, i'm gettign a scum vibe from. as to why you'd attach yourself to him, WIFOM dude. if Eds scum with you, you're distancing. if Ed's town, then your tryign to capitalize and draw suspicion to him even more.

 

 

either way, the defense from you to Ed pinged hard core.

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Despo, i'd prefer a case on him. tbh Razen hasn't been on muy list of those i'm focusing on, so my remembering of him is fuzzy for the most part.

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Ok copy/pasting the same message into all my games right now

This will be the last day I'm active until Tuesday the 16th

There is a chance I might be around early tomorrow (Friday 12th) and late Monday the 15th but don't count on it

 

If there's any kind of opinion or claim or whatever you want to know from me ask me now because I probably wont be around to tell you when it matters latter

Also that's no guarantee I'm going to answer at all either

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Basically, I had a gut feeling on you day 1, half the reason for that is now invalid due to Red flipping town, but even before you went away you didn't really contribute much. Not to mention, the way you basically shrugged of my statement against you day 1.

 

After you came back, you hammered with absolutely no additional thoughts contributed, granted Basil was a SK, but the way you trumped up your hammer and basically ingratiated the rest of us to your quick hammer is not something a townie would do. Red also commented on how you were acting weird and asked you if you would share thoughts and you blatently said no.

That is the most game-related post EP has made since. I'll be damned.

 

True, even though the case sucks. EP, you're casing me on a gut feel. I haven't actually contradicted myself, WIFOMed myself or anybody else, nor have I distanced or done anything you might label as "scummy". Instead, I was slightly inactive to start the game, went away for a long weekend, and came back to hammer the SK.

 

I shrugged off your "statement" against me on D1 for a simple reason: if you were scum, I wouldn't let you get a handhold on me to attempt a train.

 

As for the "trumping up my hammer", that is called joking. I'm pretty sure you don't think I'm bad enough to just randomly use something like that to make myself appear townie.....look at it through the lense of me joking around and you might see it differently.

 

Red commented on me acting weird because I don't normally play a "jokey" game in mafia. Not my style. She knows this, and is questioning me on it. I still haven't decided on whether I'm answering her, and in which way I'm leaning regarding her alignment.

 

 

Any other questions? Your "case" isn't really a case - it is a jumble of gut feels that you're cropping together to see what momentum you can get with me. I assure you, the momentum will be little to none. ;-)

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no Verb, you dont generlaly play like this and i'm unsure.

 

i agree with BG's statement that the scum were likely lurking yestruday, hence my questioning you about your play style this go around. i was waiting to see if you changed it on D2, giving you the benefit of the doubt on maybe you being under a PR or something, thats not the case and i do have to say your play style this go around is pinging on a gut level. not enough to start casing you on, but enough to be more than a little more wary of you than normal.

 

 

as for my scumtastic list, right now the top six are

 

 

- Rand

- Darthe

- Ishy

- JLM

- Ed

- Strike

 

 

 

those i consider town are

 

- Nol

- John

- Ep

 

 

everyone else i'm wary on and want more pressure on. especially

 

- BG

- Verb

- Tress

- Peace

 

 

 

 

with Strike, i'm less sure about than i was over the night, mainly because of the NK on Red 1.0 i'm still good with his lynch, but the NK coupled with how JLM and Ishy pounced on him come Day break just screams set up. his lynch is great info as far as i'm concerned, and that alone is enough to lynch him over. the NK is major WIFOM, it gives me pause, but not enough to back off wanting to lynch him. hence my continued push for duel trains and dislike of his fast track lynch.

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Hmm. You know Red, you have been calling me scum for a long time now and I haven't seen my name or a reason in any WoT in a long while. Even when you tried to bait me with the "lurking" thing because I was busy for a day that was at least some reason.

Posted

I think I'd like to lynch Ed

It's been eating at me how much doubt he's tried to cast on EP and John

There's a line between caution and fear mongering and I think he passed it

 

Unvote

Vote Ed

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not distancing, pointing out the obvious BG. are you saying that you dont see the two WIFOM scenarios for the NK on Red 1.o?

 

 

you know, speaking of which, i'd like you BG to start being more active. you've not said much on the Strike lynch, other than repeating that i'm distancing to try and implicate me (whcih is a scummy move)

 

 

please, lets here your thoughts on everything and join in on the convo. the waters warm, and we all know you don't need your floaties

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Ishy, your not pinging me cause of activity levle. your pinging me for reasons already stated and for the most recent stuff on Strike and for your reaction to Red 1.0's flip.

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