[BASIC] Repo! The Genetic Opera Mafia - GAME OVER - MAFIA WINS

RandA lThor · October 20, 2012

OK, two things.

First of all, I was unaware of the SK win condition, I thought it would be similar to survivor.

Second of all, you are right, I have never been SK before, at least I don't think so, so yes I am unexperienced at it. However, these are my thoughts on it. Before we keep debating on about this, lets get John Snow's input on this.

John Snow · October 20, 2012

I have full intent of killing mafia if I can tonight, since I will die.

It appears flavor is working against my favor and makes me look bad, I stand by my claim.

Assuming I can take down a maf tonight and they take me down, Rand you can use your ability to try to find the last scum by RB'ing each person in turn. (Hopefully there's another doc that can cover you)

I am all but guaranteed to die tonight. If I was a SK or the like, it would've been in my interest to claim something like vanilla to avoid maf kill.

So don't waste a lynch on me; who knows, maybe we'll lynch one scum today and I'll get the last one tonight.

RandA lThor · October 20, 2012

You still stand by the fact that you only targeted one person?

John Snow · October 20, 2012

I do.

RandA lThor · October 20, 2012

Then you're pretty much admitting to lying? Because of flavor, we know that there were two kills submitted.

Nolder · October 20, 2012

First of all, I was unaware of the SK win condition, I thought it would be similar to survivor.

Really?

Yeah no

A Survivor wins if he's alive when the game ends (so in a way they start out town sided but as the game progresses they turn less reliable)

A SK wins when they are the last one standing

Second of all, you are right, I have never been SK before, at least I don't think so, so yes I am unexperienced at it. However, these are my thoughts on it. Before we keep debating on about this, lets get John Snow's input on this.

Well fair enough

I'm not going to say I'm an expert SK or anything and you can try your method if you want but in my own experience what your proposing is a bad SK strategy

Nolder · October 20, 2012

Can you quote this flavor Rand?

Songstress · October 20, 2012

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

Basel (1) - Nolder

John Snow (2) - Rand, Dice

Not voting: John Snow, Mish, Starrik, WolfbrotherKronos, Basel

=====

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

DAY 4 DEADLINE: Monday October 22, 8:00 PM Pacific Time

http://www.timeandda...Y FOUR DEADLINE

dicetosser1 · October 20, 2012

john did you just admit to knowing how many mafia are left?

i am now feeling better about my vote

RandA lThor · October 20, 2012

Blind Mag stepped onto the stage at the GeneCo Opera House as she had hundreds of times over her years as "the Voice of GeneCo"... but this time she knew would be different. This time would be her last.

She had announced her retirement as GeneCo's soprano, and they hype that had gone along with her decision mostly masked the terror that was to come. GeneCo had granted her sight many years ago with their technologically advanced implants, and with her contract broken, it was only a matter of time before their repo man came to reclaim her eyes.

She had her plans to rob them of their victory. Her swan song at the opera would be most... memorable. She glanced into the wings and saw that the Largo family was there, all but Amber, who had been eagerly awaiting her chance to seize Mag's spotlight. That would come soon enough. Stoically, she connected herself to the rigging that would fly her above the stage so that none would miss her boldest performance to date.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hJUGjt0qQo

Blinded, Mag was unable to see which of the Largo family slashed the rope that suspended her above the spiked wrought iron fence. It mattered not. Her final performance had been most final indeed.

Peace, Blind Mag - Town Cop, has been killed.

Meanwhile, in a less savory part of town, Amber Sweet was rushing to meet her Zydrate connection: me. Graverobber, at your service.

She hurried down a dark alley, as she had dozens upon dozens of times. Miss Sweet, you see, was addicted to plastic surgery, and as a result, addicted to Zydrate. She was nearly to her destination when she was grabbed by the arm and roughly spun against a wall. A man stood before her in a black rubber suit, goggles glowing an eerie blue shade in the shadows.

"You have something that belongs to us. Several somethings, in fact."

Amber Sweet clutched at her surgically enhanced breasts and began to protest loudly that she could not be slated for repossession. She was Rotti Largo's daughter, and more likely than any of his other children to inherit GeneCo. He would never... but the knife stopped that argument quite nicely.

Ishy, Amber Sweet - Mafia Roleblocker, has had her organs repossessed.

Sherie had been hooked on Zydrate since she had get first surgery at 13. She had been planning on seeing her buyer, me, to get some today. "Graverobber I need my fix" see said plainly. I gave it to her. Her timing couldn't have been worse. As she was sitting enjoying her high, she heard a nice noise from behind her. Before she could turn or even call out her throat had been slashed. As she laid there bleeding to death her still beating heart from her chest.

Kae, Sherie Alviso, Vanilla Town, has had her organs repossessed.

It is now Day 3, a countdown will be posted on the vote count for Friday night.

I've probably been ninjad a bunch, but basically, both of them have organ repossession, but only one has killing.

Nolder · October 20, 2012

Ok I see that

Now can you explain how that proves John is lying again?

Sorry for making you repeat yourself but I'm not understanding but I'm trying to

Starrik · October 20, 2012

He's trying to say that the SK/vig/whatever John Snow is claiming to be shows up on the flavour as repossessing, the mafia kill.

Nolder · October 20, 2012

Wait who was it that he claimed to have killed again?

michellem · October 20, 2012

He hasn't claimed who he killed Nol.

John, if you think you are going to die anyway, I want as much info as possible from you. Who did you target when, what is your character. Because your story doesn't add up.

Nolder · October 20, 2012

If we don't even know who he killed how can you guys say he's lying or that his story doesn't add up?

michellem · October 20, 2012

Ok, I'll put it simply.

We have 3 night-deadplayers. Two are town, one is mafia.

Town 1: got killed.

Mafia 1: Had organs repossessed

Town 2: Had organs repossessed

Night 2 we know that Rand blocked Random.

Since both mafia1 and town2 had their organs repossessed instead of simply being killed, this implies strongly that the kills were made by the same person (or group). But why would mafia kill one of their own on N1? That does not add up. So logically, mafia1 was killed by someone else than the mafia. So when mafia kills someone, they get killed, when who-ever-not-mafia kills someone, they get their organs repossessed. John says he has only killed 1. Then who is responsible for the other organ repossesion? Do we have two vigs? Unlikely. One vig, one SK? This also feels unlikely to me.

Wich is why I want John to actually give us all the info he can. Because if there is more than one vig/SK out there, we need to know, and if he's lying, then we need to know too. He says he thinks he'll be killed next night, so he's got nothing to loose by telling us everything he knows. If he's town, that helps town even if he dies, if he's lying scum, well then we lynch him.

Got it?

Nolder · October 20, 2012

@Mod: Is there any difference between being killed and having your organs "repossessed"?

michellem · October 20, 2012

Considering we have seen both, I would say yes. Rand posted the death scenes further up, look at them yourself. It's not just wording at the end; Peace is shown being killed by the Largos. Ishy and Kae is shown being killed by an unknown, and their organs taken.

WolfbrotherKronos · October 20, 2012

It is still true that in order for snows story to work, he would have had to have killed peace. But I think I understand where you are coming from now because it says largos killed peace...and they are the bad guys right...is that where all of this is coming from?

RandA lThor · October 20, 2012

Actually John claimed to have killed mafia and no one else.

michellem · October 20, 2012

That, and the fact that mafia would not have killed one of their own N1.

michellem · October 20, 2012

^- That was reply to Kronos, didn't see your post there Rand.

In that case, who killed Kae?

WolfbrotherKronos · October 20, 2012

So you were the killer night 1? Who got town?

The mafia, I would assume. *rolls eyes*

Read through all day 3 and snow never explicitly states he killed mafia night one, if I missed that rand I apologize. But here is does say that he thinks mafia killed town in night 1. I'm assuming this is where his story doesn't line up. I can see your point now.

vote John snow

WolfbrotherKronos · October 20, 2012

Edit was to fix color- I forgot the / on the last color

Songstress · October 20, 2012

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

Basel (1) - Nolder

John Snow (3) - Rand, Dice, WolfbrotherKronos

Not voting: John Snow, Mish, Starrik, Basel

=====

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

DAY 4 DEADLINE: Monday October 22, 8:00 PM Pacific Time

http://www.timeandda...Y FOUR DEADLINE

@Mod: Is there any difference between being killed and having your organs "repossessed"?

The difference in flavor in the death scenes is intentional.

[BASIC] Repo! The Genetic Opera Mafia - GAME OVER - MAFIA WINS

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