SPIDER COUNTRY - GAME THREAD 1 *GAME ON*

[Darthe]

I know it is a bit late to be asking but why Turin? I mean yeah, I can see how EP is probably town from what you all are saying but why does that mean he isn't? The reasoning here bugs me. unvote vote cosmicpanda for that weak bandwagon above.

[cosmicpanda]

I'm assuming that by 'he' you mean Turin, since the alternative is nonsensical. I explained why. Sure, it's weak, but so far the game has been only spam. I disagree that it's bandwagoning. Bandwagoning is when people jump on somebody, copying somebody else's reasons. I'm not doing that - I have info about EP that Tiinker doesn't.

 

You're going on the record as defending Turin, unless you care to correct my interpretation of your pronoun.

[Tiinker]

  On 9/4/2012 at 8:33 AM, cosmicpanda said:

If EP is town (and I am completely sure he is).

 

 

How are you blatantly ignoring something like that?

 

Unvote, Vote Darthe

[Darthe]

I am not completely ignoring that. I am defending Turin. I have seen his game as mafia, I was the mod last time he was I believe. He seriously plays differently and saying "these two are arguing so if this one is town then this one must not be" is total weaksauce. If you don't like it then make a logical vote or provide reasoning as to otherwise and give something substantial to work with.

[alannalynn]

My brain refused to shut down despite me being completely tired. I guess I'll just sleep during class. FML.

 

Okay, anyways, I'm going to go with Tink on Darthe, but maybe not enough to place a vote atm. He's been pinging me a little bit, and that's besides his normal snarkiness.

 

  On 9/3/2012 at 3:44 AM, Darthe said:

Thank you for your wonderful contribution.

This was in response to someone checking in and before this all you posted was spam.

 

  On 9/4/2012 at 2:33 AM, Darthe said:

I have had one, trying to get my head around the concept of the game. We want to hurt this mafia and help the other right? So in that regard we need to keep to ourselves if we have thoughts of who the other mafia is. But when the merger happens it is going to change that entirely as we know that unless our team does well in the other thread the merger is going to switch how we play with this new group. In essence, I think we have to play that other team to really help ourselves later, but that if someone isn't dedicated to doing so that it is a good sign of their alignment. I don't know. DPR, y u no simple?!

Next "real" post after your more-spam. This just feels like a lot of filler, and it seems like you're just barely trying to stay active with longer posts so it looks like you're doing some work. Your post here really pinged me when I first read it and it still does. At this point (and now) I believe the general set up was pretty well established that you don't need to be all confused and such. You're a smart guy, stop rehashing stuff and add something new.

 

  On 9/3/2012 at 7:13 PM, Darthe said:

I don't like how this isn't moving. I wonder how the ratios are here. I have never played a game like this one. Also John, after all that talk about Turin, why Christine? And did you say you were in... Manhatten?

Another floater post from you. If you don't like that it's not moving, then jump in and play the game already. This is probably the first post all game that you've actually asked for information from other players, but that you're complaining besides is just stupid. Activity is determined by us, not by everyone else.

 

Also, I think this is probably the first time there is any general notion that EP MAY be town. ha.

[alannalynn]

Also Darthey, your new avi is confusing me because the angle is similar to Christine's and that just makes it awkward.

[alannalynn]

Also, I'd like to hear from Andrew, Wombat, Lenlo, and maybe more from Alanna. 2 or 3 posts a piece? And some of you are normally loud and annoying...

[Tiinker]

  On 9/4/2012 at 12:31 PM, Darthe said:

I am not completely ignoring that. I am defending Turin. I have seen his game as mafia, I was the mod last time he was I believe. He seriously plays differently and saying "these two are arguing so if this one is town then this one must not be" is total weaksauce. If you don't like it then make a logical vote or provide reasoning as to otherwise and give something substantial to work with.

 

So you noticed someone willingly put themselves out to save a team mate from 2 votes? That's either the saddest mafia move or a town play. And then disregard the logic and vote him to defend Turin based on meta?

[Darthe]

I simply disagree with the reasoning. I have grown extremely tired of days dragging in mafia and then people pile on in the last day or so to someone for less than what I would consider substantial reasoning and that person has no option but to die regardless of their role at that point. It happens far too much and when the person flips town everybody basically shugs and mumbles dimly that they thought the person was town etc. I have used that in mafia and can list many other times that people have as well. It doesn't have to be a WoT but someone needs to say something more than: well I think they were arguing with someone who was town so... ..-->??? Profit?

[Tiinker]

The distinct difference here is that Turin is hard pressing someone who CP "knows" is town. It's not like "damn, that's aggressive. vote.". There's more to it than that which you seem to have dismissed which doesn't classify it as a bandwagon. If he had crap reasoning I wouldn't have called you out on it.

[Ithillian Turambar]

CURRENT VOTE COUNT:

 

Turin ( 3 ) - Tina, Alanna, Panda

EP ( 1 ) - Turin

Tina ( 1 ) - John Snow

Wombat ( 1 ) - Christine

AJ ( 1 ) - EP

Darthe ( 1 ) - Tinker

Panda ( 1 ) - Darthe

 

 

 

With 17 Players, It Takes 9 To Lynch

 

The Deadline is 3pm on Tuesday, EST, which includes much of the Caribbean Timish.

[Tiinker]

That's like 5 hours? Move move move.

[Darthe]

  On 9/4/2012 at 1:09 PM, Tiinker said:

The distinct difference here is that Turin is hard pressing someone who CP "knows" is town. It's not like "damn, that's aggressive. vote.". There's more to it than that which you seem to have dismissed which doesn't classify it as a bandwagon. If he had crap reasoning I wouldn't have called you out on it.

 

Okay, I suppose I can accept that. I would have considered it moderate pressing and didn't place so much emphasis on "Know" but if that is how it is being read I can at least understand your viewpoint.

[John McClane]

  On 9/3/2012 at 7:13 PM, Darthe said:

I don't like how this isn't moving. I wonder how the ratios are here. I have never played a game like this one. Also John, after all that talk about Turin, why Christine? And did you say you were in... Manhatten?

I unvoted her. Yes, I was in Manhatten, also known as Manhattan.

 

  On 9/3/2012 at 8:48 PM, John Snow said:

I sense a problem here....I keep seeing John and thinking people mean me.

You should change your name.

 

  On 9/4/2012 at 11:35 AM, Darthe said:

I know it is a bit late to be asking but why Turin? I mean yeah, I can see how EP is probably town from what you all are saying but why does that mean he isn't? The reasoning here bugs me. unvote vote cosmicpanda for that weak bandwagon above.

Don't like this post at all. You seem to be trying way to hard to stifle things, and we are staring at a deadline. Could be you trying to stall a train on fellow-scum, could be you trying to grandstand by objecting to a train on a townie so you'll look more town when they flip. Neither scenario resonates as town-like behavior to me. Not sure why any townie stands in front of a train 5-6 hours before a deadline.

 

This game this big, we want deaths so we can start figuring things out. Darthe is either protecting Turin OR trying to look town by objecting to Turin's train. Darthe seems like the right lynch to me.

 

Vote Darthe

[John McClane]

  On 9/4/2012 at 1:07 PM, Darthe said:

I simply disagree with the reasoning. I have grown extremely tired of days dragging in mafia and then people pile on in the last day or so to someone for less than what I would consider substantial reasoning and that person has no option but to die regardless of their role at that point. It happens far too much and when the person flips town everybody basically shugs and mumbles dimly that they thought the person was town etc. I have used that in mafia and can list many other times that people have as well. It doesn't have to be a WoT but someone needs to say something more than: well I think they were arguing with someone who was town so... ..-->??? Profit?

 

Mock outrage.

[Darthe]

No outrage at all, just simple common sense. Oh, and I will be on since I am in class.

[John Snow]

For now, I'm going to Unvote Vote Darthe

 

I'm going to do a full re-read shortly and post my thoughts.

[Ithillian Turambar]

CURRENT VOTE COUNT:

 

Turin ( 3 ) - Tina, Alanna, Panda

EP ( 1 ) - Turin

Wombat ( 1 ) - Christine

AJ ( 1 ) - EP

Darthe ( 3 ) - Tinker, Ape, JohnSnow

Panda ( 1 ) - Darthe

 

 

 

With 17 Players, It Takes 9 To Lynch

 

The Deadline is 3pm on Tuesday, EST, which includes much of the Caribbean Timish.

[Turin Turambar]

Hi all.

 

So I appear to be the towns D1 sacrifice. I must say I would rather not be lynched but the two people that seem to be the most likely mafia candidates are not as viable for today. I will not role claim as I think in this game most roles should try to stay hidden. With the mafia having ability to steal in various ways the information gathered it seems they would gain much advantage by using the town roles against us..

 

I am thinking about cosmic stating that he is cert that EP isn't mafia. How does he know? He has "information" we don't. Tiink said it would be s really bad move to expose himself for a teammate with only two votes. I agree. But the possibility of a buddy up is here. EP really is town. Cosmic knows cause he is mafia. He defends EP. They kill EP tonight as it seems by his defenders that he is playing scummy in order to not draw attention and the kill that goes with it. Guess that failed too. Cause now he has attention and has been vouched for as town. Off track a bit there. So EP flips town. Cosmic crows "I told you" for townie cred.

 

Or. EP and cosmic are a mason team. This is what I would hope for. This helps town the most if true saving us from what I would hope didn't happen.

 

EP plays scummy to hide from night kill. Why? Mafia know what you are. Only town can be hurt by leading false trails. Then cosmic gains information on night ZERO that indicates EP is town. This would be bad in so many levels. That cosmic is outing himself so early to save a townie that has only two votes.

 

unvote.

Vote Christine

 

I think nearly everything she has posted has been spam. More spam = mind numbed to scumhunting.

 

Lynch if you must. I am town. That is all I have to say about that.

[John Snow]

  On 8/30/2012 at 4:21 PM, WWWwombat said:

Btw. If we see any power role tells in the other thread, we should point them out so that the other mafia team can kill off the other town's power roles ^^

  On 8/30/2012 at 4:42 PM, Darthe said:

Wut?

 

Really? Nothing confusing about that....we need to help out the other thread's mafia...

 

  On 8/30/2012 at 6:01 PM, 鲍勃不是我的名字 said:

  On 8/30/2012 at 4:21 PM, WWWwombat said:

Btw. If we see any power role tells in the other thread, we should point them out so that the other mafia team can kill off the other town's power roles ^^

 

Very scummy post right there.

 

How's that? Very townie post, I'd say.

 

  On 8/31/2012 at 3:49 PM, Christine said:

  On 8/31/2012 at 3:23 PM, TinaHel said:

Let me ask Christine, who is good at figuring out DPR´s mafia games, why do you vote Wombat?

 

 

I am not "good" at figuring them out, but when the Mod hands you a lemon, I expect you to at least recognize it is a fruit.

 

 

Why vote Wombat? Because NotBob told me to do it.

  On 8/31/2012 at 4:23 PM, TinaHel said:

Christine - if you are town and NotBob is town in the other thread you should definitely not listen to him.

+1

  On 8/31/2012 at 4:44 PM, Christine said:

And if he is scum?

 

I plan on NOT letting scum overrun this Game and I want to make it to the joint game.

 

Do you have proof or reason to believe he's scum? And, if you do, you really shouldn't make a point of it unless you are also scum, as it would only help the enemy town.

 

  On 9/4/2012 at 11:35 AM, Darthe said:

I know it is a bit late to be asking but why Turin? I mean yeah, I can see how EP is probably town from what you all are saying but why does that mean he isn't? The reasoning here bugs me. unvote vote cosmicpanda for that weak bandwagon above.

 

He obviously is softclaiming, I find it hard to believe that you missed that. Trying to get a lynch on a town PR?

 

  On 9/4/2012 at 1:09 PM, Tiinker said:

The distinct difference here is that Turin is hard pressing someone who CP "knows" is town. It's not like "damn, that's aggressive. vote.". There's more to it than that which you seem to have dismissed which doesn't classify it as a bandwagon. If he had crap reasoning I wouldn't have called you out on it.

 

Eh, if CP hadn't said anything, I'd be voting EP based on my re-read. I wouldn't say Turin push of the lynch to be scummy.

 

  On 9/4/2012 at 2:33 PM, John McClane said:

  On 9/3/2012 at 8:48 PM, John Snow said:

I sense a problem here....I keep seeing John and thinking people mean me.

You should change your name.

 

Jon Snow is already taken....alas.

 

 

I am confident in my vote on Darthe. Also, FoS on NotBob and Christine

[John Snow]

*sigh* NotBob is on the other thread, isn't he.

[Ithillian Turambar]

I have a spreadsheet. I still get confused. I blame the Pirate.

[John Snow]

Turin, very interesting point about CP.

[Tiinker]

What's interesting?

[Ithillian Turambar]

No more vote counts before the Deadline is up from me, sorry. Family Time. The Pirate might turn up ...