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Darkfriends you wish weren't *spoilers if you havent finished the books*


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* First of all if you haven't finished the books there are probably going to be spoilers

 

 

 

So I am curious, If you had to pick a character that you were disapointed to find out was a dark friend. Mine was probably Sheriam, I really liked her in the beginning.

 

Verin would also be one but I dont think she really counted. She was more like a good guy pretending to be a bad guy pretending to be a good guy.

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I thought about both comments.. very clever....but I think we have yet to find out, wich darkfriend will be the one we regret most..

Besides Rand ID's DF's ina instant.!.

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I think Sheriam as well. Her being a DF just made absolutely no sense in light of her statements and actions earlier in the books. I get the whole thing about it being those whom you least expect and her faking those personality traits to hide who she really was and all that, but it just didn't work for me.

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Lord Ingtar, Delana Sedai, Sheriam Sedai, that Aiel woman who approached Mat in the Waste and later tried to kill him (after the attack of the hellhounds), Verin Sedai at first, but after her explanation I find her really awesome.

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Ingtar was a shocker to me, at the beginning. I think it'd be an insult to Verin's character to NOT have that scene in TOM. Sheriam, I was always suspicious of, but... meh. :x

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No major choices for me, I just hope there isn't a forced darkfriend in the last book to fulfill that expectation from the fans. Good stories can't have everything.

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If Ingtar had redemption that wasn't through death, it would be very cool, but I like his character. Sheriam and Weiramon were the least exciting. I'm of two minds about Rand's apparent power.

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I was also surprised by Mat's Aiel girlfriend turning out to be a Darkfriend, and on my current re-read it's hard to reconcile Sheriam's character with what I know she is. Sort of off-topic, but re-reading the chapters in TGH where that expedition of Aes Sedai comes to Sheinar, I was surprised by how many of those sisters turned out to be Black Ajah later. Ingtar and Verin I think were made better, more interesting characters by the revelation that they were Dakfriends (not that I didn't like them before I knew that).

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I totally forgot about Ingtar and mats aiel girlfriend. I also think that with ingtar and verin being dark friends it adds to the human factor. Not every darkfriend is pure evil and there is no pure good people also.

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many of the darkfriends truely didn't believe the dark one would be freed and that what theyw ere doing caused any harm, many just lived a completely normal life. Then they get caught by the forsaken and forced to do stuff.

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We could also have a topic about those we wish would've turned out to be DFs... Asunawa is on the top of my list,

 

I think Asunawa was crazed by power and his beliefs just like Masema was. They were no real DF's but some kind of "fanatics of light" which is almost the same as being a DF. You torture and kill people in the name of the Light - in my opinion you're a friend of the Dark.

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We could also have a topic about those we wish would've turned out to be DFs... Asunawa is on the top of my list,

 

I think Asunawa was crazed by power and his beliefs just like Masema was. They were no real DF's but some kind of "fanatics of light" which is almost the same as being a DF. You torture and kill people in the name of the Light - in my opinion you're a friend of the Dark.

Agreed, its something that transfers over the real world.

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We could also have a topic about those we wish would've turned out to be DFs... Asunawa is on the top of my list,

 

I think Asunawa was crazed by power and his beliefs just like Masema was. They were no real DF's but some kind of "fanatics of light" which is almost the same as being a DF. You torture and kill people in the name of the Light - in my opinion you're a friend of the Dark.

Agreed, its something that transfers over the real world.

 

Sad but true. A good writer knows how to create good characters with implemented characteristics from "real life." :aessedai: there are no totally good and totally bad persons. Good and evil are inside all of us, and it just depends on ones personality which one will dominate.

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We could also have a topic about those we wish would've turned out to be DFs... Asunawa is on the top of my list,

 

I think Asunawa was crazed by power and his beliefs just like Masema was. They were no real DF's but some kind of "fanatics of light" which is almost the same as being a DF. You torture and kill people in the name of the Light - in my opinion you're a friend of the Dark.

Agreed, its something that transfers over the real world.

 

Sad but true. A good writer knows how to create good characters with implemented characteristics from "real life." :aessedai: there are no totally good and totally bad persons. Good and evil are inside all of us, and it just depends on ones personality which one will dominate.

Yah, also ones' social mores and rules make a dramatic difference (Seanchan)in what we would call evil or good. And no this isnt the old there is no good or evil speech either. :rolleyes: Also I was trying to sneak in a little snarky bash on those who do something in the name of "good" behind their belief systems. :biggrin:

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Mazrim Taim. Started as a perfect opportunity to do something not so "Black and white" (or off-black for Fain?), supposedly ruined. I still have my fingers crossed for something more interesting than, "Ta-da! Another dark minion! Who saw that coming?!" but I wouldn't bet on it.

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Mazrim Taim. Started as a perfect opportunity to do something not so "Black and white" (or off-black for Fain?), supposedly ruined. I still have my fingers crossed for something more interesting than, "Ta-da! Another dark minion! Who saw that coming?!" but I wouldn't bet on it.

 

I still cling feebly to the hope that Taim was 13x13'd and somehow Super Rand can Dragon it away. Taim in books 6,7, and 8. Is one of my favorite characters.

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