[ADVANCED/KITCHEN SINK] The Axe or the Hammer - GAME OVER

[Red2111]

actually Boyo, it's been two posts now that you've tried to link, me and Kae with BG. and i must not be twisting too hard since half the players agreed that the first link read as you attempting to link us together and suggesting that we're pulling some sort of gambit.

 

 

and honestly, the amount of times you mention something doesnt really matter in this games, it's the fact your the first one to mention it. it's called planting a seed, something scum do to sow misdirection and confusion. somethign that generally only takes 1 post to take root in peoples minds so drop the "1 post" defense dude, cause its a very flimsy shield.

 

 

 

another little hole in BG's "Kae and Red are cultists." i gaurentee we would have left off recruit on the 2nd list of actions Kae posted and i sure as hell wouldn't have pointed out Boyo trying to plant the seed of a cult in this game to call attention to it.

[Red2111]

Also Kae, your list is fairly obvious since Cuathon is dead, therefore the names come from N2 and the actions are either a repeat of N1 or N3. Stop trying to act like it is some big mystery.

 

 

Fine, I screwed up. Whatever. The lists are still accurate tho. The actions are N3.

 

 

BG you need to read more carefully.

 

besides, if we had gotten the action list N2 instead we still woudln't have directly backed you up on thread as the scum would have known then who was getting which list.

[bgrishinko]

Wifom on the cult issue. Also, you being cult makes sense. You probably really do think I'm scum and cult doesn't like scum around any more than town does. You think lynching me will save your hides, but it will seal your fate as far as I'm concerened.

 

And who says you didn't leave recruit off. Also, I've seen no other evidence to back up your list yet besides info that is in the open.

[WWWwombat]

Vote: Red

 

Uncountered finder has a guilty on her.

[SBoydW]

actually Boyo, it's been two posts now that you've tried to link, me and Kae with BG. and i must not be twisting too hard since half the players agreed that the first link read as you attempting to link us together and suggesting that we're pulling some sort of gambit.

 

 

and honestly, the amount of times you mention something doesnt really matter in this games, it's the fact your the first one to mention it. it's called planting a seed, something scum do to sow misdirection and confusion. somethign that generally only takes 1 post to take root in peoples minds so drop the "1 post" defense dude, cause its a very flimsy shield.

 

 

 

another little hole in BG's "Kae and Red are cultists." i gaurentee we would have left off recruit on the 2nd list of actions Kae posted and i sure as hell wouldn't have pointed out Boyo trying to plant the seed of a cult in this game to call attention to it.

 

I don't remember a second post... I remember the the one where I said I had a sickening or terrible feeling about you three scamming us... or something like that... what was the second?

 

italicized - Says you. *shrug* sounds more like you don't have anything real against me, and your actions are plenty scum and you're getting frustrated.

 

AS to the seed planting thing. If I "planted" it you've watered, fertalized and tended it. I only remember Meesh being the other person to comment about it.. since then it's been all you Red.

[Sakaea]

Is it just me, or has Wombat been very quiet this game? Just pops in to vote, sometimes with a reason, sometimes not.

 

BG, I think you're full of crap, and a LLL.

[bgrishinko]

I'd expect you to think that.

[bgrishinko]

1. Red.

2. Kae

3. Ishy (dont think I forgot about you)

[Nynaeve]

Vote: Red

 

Uncountered finder has a guilty on her.

 

Is that really all your vote is based on? There's been plenty that has been said regarding BG's behavior and inconsistency. And quite a bit said regarding Kae and Red's credibility. I find it rather odd that instead of giving your own take on it (which I'm assuming is pro-BG by your vote), you'll simply cast your vote using the 'because BG says so' reason. Might want to put a little more meat on that bone before you throw it at us.

 

 

 

 

Nyn

[dapianoplay3r]

I have been thinking on it and I can't seem to justify voting Red or Kae even with BG's scum result. Normally with a finder claim my view is innocent till proven guilty or CC. But with BG it was very grudgingly I accepted his claim at first and It's just been harder and harder of late. If it wasn't for Maw I would have done this a long time ago.

Vote BG

 

the only thing is I can't fully figure where you were going this whole time. I understand mafia trying to lynch or silence Red and Kae but the way you went around it just confused me tbh. It makes me very worried. Like there is something big happening elsewhere that I have been too blind to see.

hopefully this will clear that all up though and we will be able to move forwards

[Sakaea]

ok guys, this 180 is gonna give you all whiplash. i was almost asleep, and i figured it out. last night was the first night we saw (i saw) a recruit action. well i was trying to figure out why red was posting here and not on our QT. well guess who got recruited? Red, devious as you are, i finally figured it out.

BG is indeed our finder, and i bet Red will flip cult. otherwise she'd be on our QT still. so, unvote vote Red

i realize this means i'm going to be either killed recruited or lynched shortly after this. i blame the cult. i hate cult games, lol.

 

town, you better not let the cult win.

[Sakaea]

oh, and i retract all the stuff i said to BG and Soy about being liars. this time you were right. you weren't yesterday, but i see no way of convincing you of that, so that's not an issue any longer.

[Nynaeve]

O_o

 

 

 

Nyn

[Red2111]

Kae i'm not cult. i haven't checked in to our QT board because i can't access it right now. i'm at work so that might have somethign to do with it i dunno and i'm not gonna ask the boss lol and i don't have interwebs at home right now so i can't even prove it that way. though my home browser doesn't like the QT website for some reason and wont let me manitpulate it properly.

 

 

if we're gonna 180 it, then the only explination i can think of is the re-director targetted BG with a scum mate to mess up his viewings, especially since he said on thread that he was going to view me. that or he's not a normal finder (ie: insane, ect). but i still don't buy the whole thing from his last night veiwings with getting Meesh's name directly back from the Mod.

 

 

[dapianoplay3r]

WFT just happened?

 

Not a defense but wouldn't she be able to talk on both QTs?

 

 

Unvote

 

I have to go to the dentist now so ill be back this evening

[Nynaeve]

p.s: I'm going to bed now. This game is giving me a headache :P Long day tomorrow so I'll only be able to check the thread in the evening (hopefully).

 

 

 

 

Nyn

[Sakaea]

Weak sauce Red. When he was redirected he got a name with his result. Him getting Dragonsworn and then not Lightsworn pretty much sums it up for me.

 

Player, usually when someone switches teams they are not allowed to post on their previous team's QT.

 

Red, if you can, post on our QT. My vote stands until you do.

[mmeeshal]

Not a defense but wouldn't she be able to talk on both QTs?

Not necessarily. In a game I'm in elsewhere than DM, I'm playing with people from a variety of mafia backgrounds. We all had a nice discussion on cults when the topic came up, and it is AMAZING the huge range of possibilities for cult. Cult is one of those things where you have to say "It depends on the mod."

 

I've seen and heard of cult recruits losing their prior roles upon recruitment, which could explain why Red's claiming she was roleblocked, and would explain her lack of QT posting. They become vanilla, essentially.

 

Just for interest's sake, I've also heard of the entire Cult committing suicide when the Cult Leader is taken down, so yeah. Lots of interesting possibilities, so it's not a stretch to think Red was recruited.

 

I could go with a Red vote, I think. Although I'd REALLY REALLY REALLY like to take out BG...he's driving this whole game crazy. XD I'm not gonna change my vote at the moment.

[mmeeshal]

Player, usually when someone switches teams they are not allowed to post on their previous team's QT.

This isn't always the case, either. Again, I've seen it a bunch of ways myself. I was scum once and got recruited by cult, and I was still allowed to talk on both QTs. I've heard of scum dying when recruited by cult, too, so again, it depends on the mod.

[dapianoplay3r]

I've played a game where I was recruiting and the person who came over kept their posting rights and role so I wasn't sure

 

Kae we wait on your verification of Red's posting

[Sakaea]

Every cult game I've played in here on DM, if you get recruited, you lose whatever previous role/QT you had.

 

One game I was the cultmaster, and I recruited Verb first, and due to what his role had been, we figured out who the doc and the cop were. Cult ended up winning the game. That was fun.

 

I kinda expected this to be a cult game, due to how the story goes at this time; in a way, it's nice to see I was (most likely) right.

[Sakaea]

Oh, and I'll let you all know ASAP if she posts on our QT. I'm not holding my breath, tho:-/

[bgrishinko]

Well. Okay then.

[bgrishinko]

If you aren't cult Red I dare you to produce your list of names.

[Nolder]

Vote Red

Vote: BG

your continued belligerence is not going to continue

you're scum else you would have revealed your "results"