[ADVANCED/KITCHEN SINK] The Axe or the Hammer - GAME OVER

[SBoydW]

right.... that would make it nine... which is what D2 was... so the targets increased but roles didn't...

[SBoydW]

ninja'ed.. response was to kae...

[mmeeshal]

Ugh, this is tough. On the one hand, I can see how both BG and Red/Kae might be telling the truth now...on the other...I still don't trust BG.

 

Vote: BG

[Sakaea]

there's really no way for anyone to know 100% which list came from which night. you can make a good guess, but that's about it. if you think you know ( (this goes for everyone) keep it to yourself please.

[mmeeshal]

On the one hand, Kae, this might seem very anti-town to contradict you, but on the other, I doubt scum are going to miss what I've seen. I doubt anyone but skimmers will. Unless we have death-millers or a survivor role similar to Nol's in the Jurassic Park game, where they have to collect items to win.

[Nynaeve]

Vote BG I think I've given more than enough reasons already for why I think BG is scum lol And since this will also tell us quite a bit about Maw... two birds with one stone.

 

 

And I have to comment about something said earlier. All night kills seem to be on players that have been posting little to nothing so we can't possibly derive anything by it. So it's obvious what tactic they're taking here. So why is it so hard to believe that scum is avoiding night killing Red or Kae on purpose? Night killing one of them, while a loss to us, would give us quite a bit of information. And would take away from confusion and doubts. They don't want us to have a strong confirmed role... they want us to be paranoid and keep running around like headless chickens.

 

 

 

 

Nyn

[Red2111]

UNVOTE

 

VOTE: BG

 

 

pretty much seals it for me to. Boyo is next on my list, see how hard he keeps pushing for the lists, plus he's made a point of trying to link us and BG together, so to create distance between themselves imo.

 

 

at this point, those two lynches look best to me.

[Red2111]

UNVOTE

 

 

VOTE: BG

[bgrishinko]

Red is not lightsworn, I believe he is a dragonsworn cultist with Kae. Also Kae, your list is fairly obvious since Cuathon is dead, therefore the names come from N2 and the actions are either a repeat of N1 or N3. Stop trying to act like it is some big mystery.

[Verbal32]

as for the cult thing, all it needs is one post to take root, especially if your trying to plant the seed of their being a cult to help sow more confusion than there already is

 

Red, the man has a point here. Your words were "all that talk". He defended that point pretty well, and now this post looks like you backtracking.

 

On the BG or Red decision that looks like to be the current battle, I'm leaning towards believing Red/Kae, but the above post is putting me on the fence. Meh.

[bgrishinko]

I don't mind dying now. I'm convinced Red is anti town. Lynch me, I'll flip finder, then promise me you take out Red and Kae.

[Red2111]

i said all that talk because i thought i recalled there being a side discussion between Boyo and Nyn while we were lynching Spirit. i thought it was odd at the time, but was too buisy defending Kae and myself to comment on it.

 

BG - my PM says lightsworn. i'm not a cultist, and if your not careful you will the falcon's talon's. besides, if Kae and I were cultist, how do you explain the lists then, unless you want to suggest that the mod would give the cult that much of an upper hand by making them a Neighborhood watch as well. not a good role to make up either, becuase the first coroner report we get of a NA thats not on the list would seal our fates.

 

also, me sticking my neck out for Kae, and her revealing with so few votes doesn't make since unless we're anything but town; with Cult, well you start out with at most two people and the recruit generally transfers if the cult starts off with two. as scum, i was flying very well under the radar, so i woudln't be painting a target on my own back by defending a team mate like this on thread.

 

 

 

 

[Red2111]

that should read "if yoru not careful you'll get the falcon's talon's."

[bgrishinko]

Blah blah Red. All I hear from you and Kae now is blah blah.

 

Also if that list of actions was N3 then it validated my claim of a second redirector.

[Nynaeve]

I don't mind dying now. I'm convinced Red is anti town. Lynch me, I'll flip finder, then promise me you take out Red and Kae.

 

lol BG, you were missing a dramatic sigh at the end :P

 

Don't worry. If by some miraculous chance you flip as a townie... I'm sure we're capable of drawing our own conclusions.

 

 

 

Nyn

[Sakaea]

There's no way in hell you'll flip finder. We are lightsworn. Not dragonsworn, not cult. And you saying you believe Red to be dragonsworn pings, because if you had gotten a result of dragonsworn, you would say so. But you didn't, because she's not, and you're not our finder.

[bgrishinko]

Ugh, this is tough. On the one hand, I can see how both BG and Red/Kae might be telling the truth now...on the other...I still don't trust BG.

 

Vote: BG

 

Y tu, Meesh?

[Nynaeve]

Blah blah Red. All I hear from you and Kae now is blah blah.

 

Also if that list of actions was N3 then it validated my claim of a second redirector.

 

lol Seriously? You either stick with Red and Kae being scum and making up their list or stick with them being genuine. You can't say you viewed Red as scum and then a second later say 'Oh, see, their list validated my claim.'

 

*shakes head*

 

 

 

 

Nyn

[Sakaea]

Also Kae, your list is fairly obvious since Cuathon is dead, therefore the names come from N2 and the actions are either a repeat of N1 or N3. Stop trying to act like it is some big mystery.

 

 

Fine, I screwed up. Whatever. The lists are still accurate tho. The actions are N3.

[Sakaea]

Blah blah Red. All I hear from you and Kae now is blah blah.

 

Also if that list of actions was N3 then it validated my claim of a second redirector.

 

lol Seriously? You either stick with Red and Kae being scum and making up their list or stick with them being genuine. You can't say you viewed Red as scum and then a second later say 'Oh, see, their list validated my claim.'

 

*shakes head*

 

 

 

 

Nyn

 

*applauds* Precisely.

[Red2111]

wow BG, talk about trying to have your cake and eat it too. so your using a list posted by my team mate to help validate yourself, but then go right ahead and say that Kae and i are scum.

 

 

props to our finder for keeping quiet and not falling for the CC.

 

 

[dapianoplay3r]

Red is not lightsworn, I believe he is a dragonsworn cultist with Kae. Also Kae, your list is fairly obvious since Cuathon is dead, therefore the names come from N2 and the actions are either a repeat of N1 or N3. Stop trying to act like it is some big mystery.

 

What did you get back exactly sir?

Normally it would come back saying lightsworn, dragonsworn, mafia, mason etc. I don't really believe that you got back "not lightsworn" and therefore had to guess her alignment. So what, pray tell, did you get?

 

 

and Red is a her.

 

EDIT

I cant keep up with this.

lol to being validated by "scum" as you see them

[Turin Turambar]

VOTE BG

 

That is what I was thinking too Player. When I asked earlier I was hoping to get the actual wording used as it would be helpful to know what name was given to the mafia team. The more I see BG talk the less I believe him.

[SBoydW]

UNVOTE

 

VOTE: BG

 

 

pretty much seals it for me to. Boyo is next on my list, see how hard he keeps pushing for the lists, plus he's made a point of trying to link us and BG together, so to create distance between themselves imo.

 

 

at this point, those two lynches look best to me.

 

Bold - Oooo yeah, evil me, I just wanted you supposed pro-town people to actually be pro-town.

 

Italics - yet again with the twisted half truths. Again, I made one post that happened to have your's, kae's, and BG's sentence and you pounced on it (maybe it was kae...) and called it linking. Even after I clarified that that is not what I was doing. If any one is pushing anything it's you, and that thing is crap. This is the third time in two pages you've twisted the facts. I call twisting twister who twists.

[bgrishinko]

I was given a result of Dragonsworn. Then Ama apologized, deleted it and gave me Not Lightsworn. Probably because my initial role said I'd only get Lightsworn or Not Lightsworn as results.

 

If you had this "evidence" that backed up what I was saying, why not tell anybody? Why wait till after I said it. Even after I said it, why not simply say that you could verify what I was saying. Verify me saying there was another redirector.