[Advanced] Malazan Mafia - Game On

[John E. Kelley]

Wait, wha? Huh? See, what had happened was.....

 

I come home from work and I'm already lynched, there's a hurricane in my front yard, I have no power, my cat died....just great. Well blah. There. My blah post. Go town.

[Ithillian Turambar]

If there are only two Mafia members left. I think the other one is Krak.

[bhskeeper11]

I haven't really seen anything scummy in Krak. Even when he said something against you, I didn't think it was that suspicious (of course, I also have the feeling that you are mafia, so there is that...)

 

If there is one doubt in my mind about you, it comes from the fact that Krak, Tina, Ed, and Ama have been fairly quiet while we duke it out. That seems like something mafia would do if two townies were going at each other because, in that case, the Town is simply doing their job for them. They throw something in every now and again, but not anything really substantial. (I do understand that they all have posted and I don't mean to imply inactivity, but that it seems for every five posts Ithi or I do, there is one post from each of the rest.)

[Ithillian Turambar]

So - I will go back to my original vote before I sleep and Vote Krak. He made a poor twisty word argument against me. And he didn't vote for Lily, almost like he knew she would turn up Town and screw everything up for anyone who had voted for her. Only the Mafia knows who Town are, and me and Kill also know each other for definite. Ed seems to have a reasonably plausible Townie facade. Kate still feels wrong, but maybe that's just because she isn't instantly going along with me, despite my swearing on things that are really important to me. I dunno.

 

If it turns out to be Ama and Tina all along I'm going to be Kicking Myself. Tina did make those overtly not too Town posts at the start of the game, and Ama has been lovely and reasonable throughout.

 

I really don't know anymore.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Ok - you're a. Much better player than I am and have been playing this game for longer. If you really think Krak is not Mafia I will consider changing my vote - if you are willing to give voice to the possibility that it could be. Two or three out of Ed, Ama and Tina that are Mafia. What do you think about them exactly. And why not Krak. Even you eventually agreed that he had misrepresented my thoughts on Ed, and I clearly said two or three Mafia. That is pretty twisty IMO.

[Ithillian Turambar]

I guess what it comes down to is - do you think I could tell you a complete and utter lie, baring in mind everything you all know of me and what I have sworn upon.

 

Tina has been on a Cult team with me before and knows how awful I was at it. Luckily I was cult and not Mafia and so could legitimately say that I was NOT mafia, because I just don't lie well at all. Wombat sussed me out in about twenty seconds lol because I simply did not know what to say when pressed.

 

This time I am Town and can be totally honest. Its quite liberating to be able to say whatever I like because its the truth. And if I do get lynched then its not really my fault. All I can do is tell the truth. I can't make any of you believe me, you will all have to decide for yourselves.

 

I am telling the Truth and that also means that Kill is, although I don't know him really well and you might not either. We are BOTH TOWN. And now I'm repeating myself. I think I will leave it at that unless anyone has something specific they want to query.

[bhskeeper11]

I suggest to everyone to go back and reread the last 6 or 8 pages or so. I just did and tried to put half-blinders up to the stuff going on between Ithi and myself (mostly because I paid a TON of attention to it at the time and I think we are hopelessly deadlocked at the time, which is really bad if she is Town, too.) I noticed some interesting things...

 

For one, when Ithi and I (and halfway Kill) were duking it out, you all pretty much kept quiet. Ama through out some "I think so-and-so is scum" posts without any real backing and Tina gave reasons why we both pinged on the radar. Ed was Ed and didn't really contribute anything useful and I think Krak only redirected heat back at the Ithi/Kate discussion. Everyone was mostly quiet about their personal opinions throughout that whole thing.

 

And, when we took the break and lynched Christine, everyone was all active and happy again. That ends, Ithi and I go back for Round 2, and it gets quiet again with the only input being that we are both looking scummy or woe-is-me if we lose a Townie and lose the game.

 

I still think Ithi and Kill could very likely be mafia, but the fact that we three duked it out and were basically allowed to without interruption gives credit to the idea that we are Townies fighting Townies.

 

Unvote.

 

What have you say, everyone that is not Ithi or Kill?

[ed2funy]

I have reread. First, I was mistaken. Jack said in his last post that there is 6 left and it takes 4 to lynch. But I count 7 players: Tina, Ithi, Kill, Ama, Kate, Krak and Ed. So if we happen to lynch the wrong player it won´t be over. That is if there is two mafia left. If there is three left then we are in big trouble, but I don´t think so.

 

For me it kind of comes down to Ithi or Kate. I can´t see that both of them is town. But who is lying?

 

Ithi: She KNEW Lily was lying but Lily was lynched and turned out town. She claimed mason and Kill backed her up. I can´t make up my mind about the mason team. Ithi and Kill seam trustworthy to me. It would be so stupid to out themselves at that point of the game. But then I know Ithi are good at this game, and so is Kill, and they could have given it a shot and go for a huge WIFOM.

 

Kate: Has been pinging my radar since day one with her vanilla reveal. She is trying really hard to get Ithi or Kill lynched. Then there were her possible slip in #767. (I forgot to quote it so I will do it in next post.) She wonders why Christine didn´t kill anyone. But how could she know that Christine hadn´t killed Wombat? Was it because she did it herself?

 

Quote and summary coming up soon:

 

uhhhh, can't believe I forgot about that. o_O

 

 

I haven't really seen anything scummy in Krak. Even when he said something against you, I didn't think it was that suspicious (of course, I also have the feeling that you are mafia, so there is that...)

 

If there is one doubt in my mind about you, it comes from the fact that Krak, Tina, Ed, and Ama have been fairly quiet while we duke it out. That seems like something mafia would do if two townies were going at each other because, in that case, the Town is simply doing their job for them. They throw something in every now and again, but not anything really substantial. (I do understand that they all have posted and I don't mean to imply inactivity, but that it seems for every five posts Ithi or I do, there is one post from each of the rest.)

 

I was about to say everyone else was quiet. >.>

 

 

I suggest to everyone to go back and reread the last 6 or 8 pages or so. I just did and tried to put half-blinders up to the stuff going on between Ithi and myself (mostly because I paid a TON of attention to it at the time and I think we are hopelessly deadlocked at the time, which is really bad if she is Town, too.) I noticed some interesting things...

 

For one, when Ithi and I (and halfway Kill) were duking it out, you all pretty much kept quiet. Ama through out some "I think so-and-so is scum" posts without any real backing and Tina gave reasons why we both pinged on the radar. Ed was Ed and didn't really contribute anything useful and I think Krak only redirected heat back at the Ithi/Kate discussion. Everyone was mostly quiet about their personal opinions throughout that whole thing.

 

And, when we took the break and lynched Christine, everyone was all active and happy again. That ends, Ithi and I go back for Round 2, and it gets quiet again with the only input being that we are both looking scummy or woe-is-me if we lose a Townie and lose the game.

 

I still think Ithi and Kill could very likely be mafia, but the fact that we three duked it out and were basically allowed to without interruption gives credit to the idea that we are Townies fighting Townies.

 

Unvote.

 

What have you say, everyone that is not Ithi or Kill?

 

Because honestly, you 3 have me flip flopping back and forth with every single damn post on who is mafia.

 

I have thought of the same...but I don't know. I thought Krak might have been mafia for being silent and then coming in to make posts that steer us.

 

Ama has been quiet...not much of a read. *grumbles*

[Krakalakachkn]

I haven't had a chance to get on all day, so be back in a sec.

[Krakalakachkn]

Oooh Twisty Krak

 

lol twisty.

 

 

You grouped Ed together with you and Kill, meaning that you are sure that you three are innocent...unless you want to tell us that you aren't sure that you and Kill are innocent and just randomly decided to put him in your "town" group? Yes you said you weren't sure, but your actions showed otherwise...a convenience for you if anyone challenged you on Ed (like me).

 

 

Nice try turning Lily against me, as if that wasn't obvious enough. So now what you want to do is make the argument that anytime a person doesn't agree with the group, they should be punished for it? Yeah I didn't vote for Lily, because I didn't think she was scummy. Turned out I was right. So what?

 

 

 

I am quite interested to hear Ama's thoughts on an issue. Any issue.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Fair enough. Unvote

 

Maybe this will draw her out ...

 

Vote Ama

[Niniel]

Kate - I have tried to be active in this game. You and Ithi have been even more active, yes, but it´s not like I´m lurking around. I go to sleep much earlier than you do because my timezone is ahead of yours and I´m not like Ithi, who doesn´t need to sleep at all.

 

As I have said, for me it´s either Ithi or Kate at this moment. If Ithi flips scum then we lynch Kill tomorrow. If Kate is mafia then I´m not sure. I think Ed is town (think, I´m not sure) so it´s either Ama or Krak. Both have been fairly quiet this game. In my last game they were much like this and both were mafia.

 

I don´t like Kate´s slip so I will vote Kate. If all of you agree to vote Ithi then I will change my vote but I think it´s more likely that Kate is mafia.

[Amadine]

You mafia, sis?

 

Nope... are you? *raises eyebrow*

[Amadine]

Fair enough. Unvote

 

Maybe this will draw her out ...

 

Vote Ama

 

 

Sorry guys - big day at work yesterday, then a big night at the pub..... seemed like a better offer than a night at home on DM

 

I actually think that it's entirely possible that Ithi and Kate are both town, i'm going back to read some more, but i'll be back.....

 

 

[Ithillian Turambar]

If all of you agree to vote Ithi then I will change my vote but I think it´s more likely that Kate is mafia.

 

Yeah, that's not gonna happen cos me and Kill won't vote for me lol.

 

:saywhatyouactuallymean:

 

Also - Hello Ama, nice to see you shortly after I voted for you

 

Unvote - Vote Ed

 

:justbecauseican:

[Amadine]

If all of you agree to vote Ithi then I will change my vote but I think it´s more likely that Kate is mafia.

 

Yeah, that's not gonna happen cos me and Kill won't vote for me lol.

 

:saywhatyouactuallymean:

 

Also - Hello Ama, nice to see you shortly after I voted for you

 

Unvote - Vote Ed

 

:justbecauseican:

 

Co-incidence, i assure you.

 

I'm actually learning towards Ithi and Kill being mafia, as the game as gone on Ithi has got more and more bold with her moves in this game. It feels like over-confidence to me.

[Niniel]

Ithi - I understand that you and Kill won´t vote yourselves. I was talking about the other players.

 

I´m in a hurry so I can´t write more now. I will not be home more today. I hope I will be able to write more this evening but if I can´t I will be back tomorrow evening.

[ed2funy]

Nope.

 

 

Also, if we are at 2 scum left and it's 7 of us...we've got tmr.

If there are 3, is no bueno.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Just following Jack's Tactics no. 11. If you are not sure who is who, vote for people and see what happens.

 

Am certainly not over confident. I just know who I am and I'm quite relaxed about that. I'm not worried because I'm not lying. As for the vote flipping, I'm more just testing the water, although it is interesting that after I vote for Ama she appears, and now, after previously saying that both me and kate are probably Town, I am now probably Mafia.

 

:makeyourmindup:

 

Hmmmm

 

Unvote - Vote Ama again - cos she doesn't seem to like it and she is FOS ing me without actually voting for me

 

Jack's Probable Tells no. 37

 

So am at the Safari Park now - don't expect much else from me for a few hours.

[Amadine]

Meh, vote me if you like Ithi - makes no difference to me.

 

You on the other hand have gone on the defensive again.

 

VOTE ITHI

 

Go on, call it OMGUS voting.

[Ithillian Turambar]

 

You on the other hand have gone on the defensive again.

 

Go on, call it OMGUS voting.

 

Hello Pot, my name's Kettle. :waves:

 

You REALLY didn't like that did you? I think this is the most active you've been all game.

 

 

Jack's Trap Technique no. 4

[Amadine]

I always get more active towards the end of a game *shrugs* it's my usual playstyle.

[Sedai]

Ithi (1) - AMA

AMA (1) - ithi

Tina (1) - Kate

Krak (1) - Kill

[killuliu]

Meh, vote me if you like Ithi - makes no difference to me.

 

You on the other hand have gone on the defensive again.

 

VOTE ITHI

 

Go on, call it OMGUS voting.

 

Are you really going to make it this easy this late in the game? Your usual playstyle just happens to be more active after you have been tossed with a vote this late in the game (yeah, coincidence, could be)? But anyways, your responses seem so funny that I actually laughed, till I realized you were serious. For that..

 

I think I already unvoted Krak, but to be sure,

unvote, vote Amadine

[Ithillian Turambar]

If she WAS Town, surely the Mafia would have joined in by now and voted for her as well. I'm pretty happy with my vote on her now.