[Standard] Wombat's Hamlet Mafia (GAME OVER - mafia wins)

[Amadine]

Aemon lives! Excellent!

[aemonkristen]

That is a pleasant surprise. My first time as a healer and I thought I had manage to get myself lynched day 1. Very frustrating.

[Liathiana]

Good to hear!

 

And YAY for the forums back! >.<

[Talya]

I had a quick reread of the last few pages to see if I could gain some idea of what I was thinking before DM went down.

 

I think that when I first mentioned about being a little suspicious of Aemon and because he wouldn't vote for Lav. the fact that both Aust and Lav took what I said as a good reason and jumped on his lynch, raises suspicions in my eyes. i know sometimes people say things that spring also to peoples mind, but it is also a great way for a mafia to hide behind someone elses idea for a vote.

 

I'm also suspicious of Lily, because of the way she so easily voted a no lynch on the say so of Lav, who, IMHO gave poor reasons for a no lynch and I know Lily has been in games where no lynches have been discussed before, it looks like she is trying to look a little too lost sheep for my liking. ;)

 

Ama, i can understand what you are saying about noobs not wanting to say anything because they may get jumped on. It goes with the game. You really have to get thoughts out there, because if not, you could be nk and your insight would be lost, plus you may actually give something to the game, which gives the last piece in a puzzle to someone and lastly, it really does help the town (if you are town) to be active and saying things. We need you support in every game. Sometimes it can be this lack of willingness to get stuck in that loses the game for townies. The thing I would say is don't be scared of making mistakes, we all make them, I have made some great blunders (big time ones) in my time and I'm sure I will make a fair few more. I just learn to go and cry on my own in a corner for 5 mins then come bouncing back (okay that was a little exaggeration...but you know what I mean ;) )

[alannalynn]

I'm not really talking much because I've been busy(Robin Hood marathon yesterday, FTW) and I'm still learning by watching. It's really interesting to watch some of you more skilled/experienced players come to the conclusions you do, but I'm still trying to understand them in the first place. lol. I'm just taking my time around here and watching, hopefully I'll begin to understand a little better eventually. ;D

[Talya]

I think sometimes it's easy to read a game that has finished, so that you can follow things through, lol.

[alannalynn]

Already did that. :) I (mostly) kept up with the Legend one in the Ogier SG, but I'm still learning. Hopefully actually participating will help me out a bit.

[Verbal32]

Ugh.  I saw the time stamps and noted that Aemon was hammered after the deadline, but he still revealed.  My problem is:  did Aemon know that?  If mafia, he knew the deadline had passed and was able to false claim Healer.  Or perhaps he's the actual Healer.

 

Food for thought...

[Talya]

Nothing like getting your hands stuck in ;)

 

Plus I actually think it's the best way to learn at the end of the day...

 

I will try to be nice...honest ;)

 

Well if he isn't the real healer thaen hopefully he will get his comupence at some point and the really healer will drift safely on unmasked :)

[Verbal32]

Only problem with that is we'd never risk lynching a Healer, so he's safe from the town.  And if mafia, then he's safe from them as well.

[Tigraine]

Well, that was a pleasant turn of events. 

 

I think it's great the Wombat didn't "let it slide" Rules are Rules!  ;)

 

If Aemon is not the real healer, then whoever is PLEASE DON'T REVEAL it might let us lynch scum but it will neutralize you and you will be useless. 

 

Later on in the game, if Aemon is lying then it will be caught.  There will be something that will tip us off.

[LilyElizabeth]

Tal, you're right, of course, but I find myself in a weird postion. When I share too many of my thoughts people think I'm scum. I think it's because my bipolar mind approaches things differently. So I catch heat for not sharing or for sharing. Both.

 

I'm taking a mafia break after the games I'm in wrap up, and just modding until the mood swings slow down or I just plain get used to being two people in one body - feels like that some days. If I can't stand it, I'll jump in some more Standard games, where it's simple. I'm actually quite sick of the mega-power games.

 

Sorry, babbling..... night phase and all.

[Talya]

I wasn't advocating to lynch a proclaimed healer Verb, that wouldn't do! :D

 

There are more than one way to skin a cat, as the saying goes!

 

I know what you are saying Lily, but with me i won't just assume you are Mafia, i like to see things that to me don't make sense, and this seems one of them ;)

[LilyElizabeth]

Tal, sweetie, I don't even think I was addressing what you said about me at all. Just what you said to the newbs.

[Verbal32]

I'll jump in some more Standard games, where it's simple.

 

I find it to be the opposite, actually.  With standard games, it is more strategic.  Easier to hide, and therefore harder to ferret out scum.  But in powered games, there are so many roles flying around that it's a lot of luck to just stay alive.  Less strategy, more "spray and pray", lol.

 

But I hope you keep signing up - you're a solid player, and we need more of that.  ;)

 

 

I wasn't advocating to lynch a proclaimed healer Verb, that wouldn't do! :D

 

There are more than one way to skin a cat, as the saying goes!

 

Oh, I wasn't suggesting that you were!!!  Sorry!  I was just stating that he'd be totally safe from the town as this game won't have other roles to out him.

 

This might all be for naught, as he might just be the real healer and this conversation would be moot.  Dunno.

[aemonkristen]

I didn't even know when the deadline was. I had to go back and check when Wombat said it had passed. I had just assumed that there would be another day or 2 before the deadline because of DM being down. Anyway, I know that there is nothing short of a coroners report that is going to convince anyone, so I'm just gonna stop now.

 

I'm going to do a reread before trying to come to any conclusions.

[Lavinya]

I have my suspicions about Aemon's reveal also. If he knew he was safe, it was a potentially clever move to instantly make himself bulletproof. I don't know if I trust it.

[LilyElizabeth]

I'll jump in some more Standard games, where it's simple.

 

I find it to be the opposite, actually.  With standard games, it is more strategic.  Easier to hide, and therefore harder to ferret out scum.  But in powered games, there are so many roles flying around that it's a lot of luck to just stay alive.  Less strategy, more "spray and pray", lol.

 

But I hope you keep signing up - you're a solid player, and we need more of that.  ;)

 

 

Thanks. Just a break. I meant simpler setups. More fun for the players. In recent games I have found that the mod set things up to where I felt like a fool for trying what I was trying. Standard is simple. Straightforward is a better word.

 

Interesting night convo, huh? lol

 

 

[WWWwombat]

Get your night actions in.  You have just under 12 hours.

[Talya]

There have been some more 'complicated' setups that have been fun, but I agree sometimes the more straightforward a game is the more fun it is to play! Sometimes things get so complicated that it is now turning me off. :(

 

Okay Lily, I thought you meant about what I had said about you :D

 

You are more than probably right, Aemon is healer and this convo is mute, but it will be tucked away incase. But for the moment now I believe him. I didn't know when reading that the last vote was out of time, so he too could have made the mistake.

 

If he was Mafia Lav, he wouldn't need to be bullet proof anyway! (unless there is a vig out there and I wouldn't suggest offing him, that wouldn't help the town as he is more than likely telling the truth)

 

It's defiantely an interesting night convo Lily, beats falling asleep and having poison poured in your ear, lol.

[Lavinya]

Heh I should have said lynchproof - we won't want to lynch our healer!

[WWWwombat]

[Enter Ghost and Hamlet.]

 

Ham.

Whither wilt thou lead me? speak! I'll go no further.

 

Ghost.

Mark me.

 

Ham.

I will.

 

Ghost.

My hour is almost come,

When I to sulph'uous and tormenting flames

Must render up myself.

 

Ham.

Alas, poor ghost!

 

Ghost.

Pity me not, but lend thy serious hearing

To what I shall unfold.

 

Ham.

Speak; I am bound to hear.

 

Ghost.

So art thou to revenge, when thou shalt hear.

 

Ham.

What?

 

Ghost.

I am thy father's spirit;

Doom'd for a certain term to walk the night,

And for the day confin'd to wastein fires,

Till the foul crimes done in my days of nature

Are burnt and purg'd away. But that I am forbid

To tell the secrets of my prison-house,

I could a tale unfold whose lightest word

Would harrow up thy soul; freeze thy young blood;

Make thy two eyes, like stars, start from their spheres;

Thy knotted and combined locks to part,

And each particular hair to stand on end

Like quills upon the fretful porcupine:

But this eternal blazon must not be

To ears of flesh and blood.—List, list, O, list!—

If thou didst ever thy dear father love—

 

Ham.

O God!

 

Ghost.

Revenge his foul and most unnatural murder.

 

Ham.

Murder!

 

Ghost.

Murder most foul, as in the best it is;

But this most foul, strange, and unnatural.

 

Ham.

Haste me to know't, that I, with wings as swift

As meditation or the thoughts of love,

May sweep to my revenge.

 

Ghost.

I find thee apt;

And duller shouldst thou be than the fat weed

That rots itself in ease on Lethe wharf,

Wouldst thou not stir in this. Now, Hamlet, hear.

'Tis given out that, sleeping in my orchard,

A serpent stung me; so the whole ear of Denmark

Is by a forged process of my death

Rankly abus'd; but know, thou noble youth,

The serpent that did sting thy father's life

Now wears his crown.

 

Ham.

O my prophetic soul!

Mine uncle!

 

Ghost.

Ay, that incestuous, that adulterate beast,

With witchcraft of his wit, with traitorous gifts,—

O wicked wit and gifts, that have the power

So to seduce!—won to his shameful lust

The will of my most seeming-virtuous queen:

O Hamlet, what a falling-off was there!

From me, whose love was of that dignity

That it went hand in hand even with the vow

I made to her in marriage; and to decline

Upon a wretch whose natural gifts were poor

To those of mine!

But virtue, as it never will be mov'd,

Though lewdness court it in a shape of heaven;

So lust, though to a radiant angel link'd,

Will sate itself in a celestial bed

And prey on garbage.

But soft! methinks I scent the morning air;

Brief let me be.—Sleeping within my orchard,

My custom always of the afternoon,

Upon my secure hour thy uncle stole,

With juice of cursed hebenon in a vial,

And in the porches of my ears did pour

The leperous distilment; whose effect

Holds such an enmity with blood of man

That, swift as quicksilver, it courses through

The natural gates and alleys of the body;

And with a sudden vigour it doth posset

And curd, like eager droppings into milk,

The thin and wholesome blood; so did it mine;

And a most instant tetter bark'd about,

Most lazar-like, with vile and loathsome crust

All my smooth body.

Thus was I, sleeping, by a brother's hand,

Of life, of crown, of queen, at once dispatch'd:

Cut off even in the blossoms of my sin,

Unhous'led, disappointed, unanel'd;

No reckoning made, but sent to my account

With all my imperfections on my head:

O, horrible! O, horrible! most horrible!

If thou hast nature in thee, bear it not;

Let not the royal bed of Denmark be

A couch for luxury and damned incest.

But, howsoever thou pursu'st this act,

Taint not thy mind, nor let thy soul contrive

Against thy mother aught: leave her to heaven,

And to those thorns that in her bosom lodge,

To prick and sting her. Fare thee well at once!

The glowworm shows the matin to be near,

And 'gins to pale his uneffectual fire:

Adieu, adieu! Hamlet, remember me.

 

[Exit.]

 

Ham.

O all you host of heaven! O earth! what else?

And shall I couple hell? O, fie!—Hold, my heart;

And you, my sinews, grow not instant old,

But bear me stiffly up.—Remember thee!

Ay, thou poor ghost, while memory holds a seat

In this distracted globe. Remember thee!

Yea, from the table of my memory

I'll wipe away all trivial fond records,

All saws of books, all forms, all pressures past,

That youth and observation copied there;

And thy commandment all alone shall live

Within the book and volume of my brain,

Unmix'd with baser matter: yes, by heaven!—

O most pernicious woman!

O villain, villain, smiling, damned villain!

My tables,—meet it is I set it down,

That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain;

At least, I am sure, it may be so in Denmark:

 

[Writing.]

 

So, uncle, there you are. Now to my word;

It is 'Adieu, adieu! remember me:'

I have sworn't.

[LilyElizabeth]

Oh, did I mention that's just a break from playing? Modding, I'll still do.

[Verbal32]

I didn't even know when the deadline was. I had to go back and check when Wombat said it had passed. I had just assumed that there would be another day or 2 before the deadline because of DM being down. Anyway, I know that there is nothing short of a coroners report that is going to convince anyone, so I'm just gonna stop now.

 

I'm going to do a reread before trying to come to any conclusions.

 

I'm more inclined to believe Aemon after this post.  A scummy Aemon more likely attacks me for even suggesting he was false claiming.  A townie Aemon just dismisses my thoughts as there is nothing he can do about them....which is exactly what he did.

 

I'm cool for now.

[LilyElizabeth]

Verb, I like that thinking. Of course, you have been known to lead me down the wrong path with your thinking. (I'm thinking Aemon's game, and I see that grin!) But still, Aemon does seem different. I didn't doubt his claim when he said it. I have no reason to doubt it now, unless you two are working together, in which case, we're all in trouble.  ;)